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So, I shouldn't work with people *laughs*

Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 05:40
Ok, so for those of you who remember, I am currently in the Occupational Therapy program at my school. Now the good news is, I'm in my first semester of actually studying OT (the year before was just prerequisites before the program), and surprise surprise, this isn't the career for me. Mainly because it requires me to interact with people, and I am not a people person by any stretch of the imagination.

So I talked to my advisor, and I talked to my College appointed therapist (you'd be suprised what an emotional outburst will do), and some other people recommend Academic research.

Which is a great idea, and according to Salary.com I'd be making close to $3,000 a month. However, there's a downside to this. I only have a Bachelor of Arts (my major was History) and so far, I don't see anyone hiring. I am seeking help from different sources, and NSG is one of my source.

So far, I've thought about Historical, Political or Paranormal research. I'm sure there are Universities who are looking for people who'd take an academic perspective to the Paranormal. I mean they do pay Tornado Chasers....

Ideas anyone?
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 05:41
Go to business school ;)
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 05:43
Actually you know Wilgrove being an OT you might come into contact with people who are similar to yourself that would help them greatly being able to relate to you and would help you being able to relate to them. You never know a few years as an OT they see you doing a great job the paitents like you you get promoted up away from the people.
Smunkeeville
30-10-2008, 05:54
Have you actually tried OT'ing yet? I thought for YEARS that I hated kids, then I found out I actually hate adults......kids are great, kids are awesome, adults are assholes.

Maybe you don't like the people you are around but you would like your clients. Blouman Empire is right, you might be able to really really help some people that nobody else could.
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 06:08
Actually you know Wilgrove being an OT you might come into contact with people who are similar to yourself that would help them greatly being able to relate to you and would help you being able to relate to them. You never know a few years as an OT they see you doing a great job the paitents like you you get promoted up away from the people.

Have you actually tried OT'ing yet? I thought for YEARS that I hated kids, then I found out I actually hate adults......kids are great, kids are awesome, adults are assholes.

Maybe you don't like the people you are around but you would like your clients. Blouman Empire is right, you might be able to really really help some people that nobody else could.

Eh, it's not just the fact that I'm not a people person. It's also because well...it doesn't interest me that much. It's not something I'm passionate about, and the fact that I'm overstressed and overworked, which is affecting my physical, emotional and mental health isn't helping either. I mean have you wondered why I took isolation time recently? It's because for the two weeks leading up to my isolation time, I had a bunch of crap piled on me, and OT was one of the bigger turds.

Plus, I know, I just know that my speech impediment will cause problems for me. It already got me in trouble when I tried to become a teacher, and I had a part time job where I took phone calls from students signing up for their classes, got fired from that job. So, past performance tends to indicate that it'll be a problem again. I already went through speech theraphy. It's just a bad combination of hemi-facial-paralysis and the fact I'm still re-learning how to talk.
Knights of Liberty
30-10-2008, 06:24
Dont you have a blog?
Zombie PotatoHeads
30-10-2008, 06:30
Dont you have a blog?
yeah. this site.
*sigh*

I suggest getting a job as the guy who mucks out the peep-show booths.
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 06:44
Eh, it's not just the fact that I'm not a people person. It's also because well...it doesn't interest me that much. It's not something I'm passionate about, and the fact that I'm overstressed and overworked, which is affecting my physical, emotional and mental health isn't helping either. I mean have you wondered why I took isolation time recently? It's because for the two weeks leading up to my isolation time, I had a bunch of crap piled on me, and OT was one of the bigger turds.

Plus, I know, I just know that my speech impediment will cause problems for me. It already got me in trouble when I tried to become a teacher, and I had a part time job where I took phone calls from students signing up for their classes, got fired from that job. So, past performance tends to indicate that it'll be a problem again. I already went through speech theraphy. It's just a bad combination of hemi-facial-paralysis and the fact I'm still re-learning how to talk.

Yeah fair enough, but have you considered maybe switching degrees? Going off and doing something else? Or even dropping down and doing this program part time, if you can. That might take off some of the stress you are feeling but yes going in to academia might be a good option for you. Just do me a favour Wilgrove, when you do don't become an old man who gets stuck in some time warp because you work in the same office for 30 years keep getting out there.
The Cat-Tribe
30-10-2008, 06:51
I feel like an enabler even posting in this thread, but what do you ENJOY doing? Find a way to get paid doing something you enjoy.

Don't go at it the wrong way by trying to figure out what pays that you can possibly do.
Barringtonia
30-10-2008, 06:53
I feel like an enabler even posting in this thread, but what do you ENJOY doing? Find a way to get paid doing something you enjoy.

Don't go at it the wrong way by trying to figure out what pays that you can possibly do.

His condition precludes being a pilot if I recall correctly.
The Cat-Tribe
30-10-2008, 06:56
His condition precludes being a pilot if I recall correctly.

That is unfortunate. But is that the ONLY thing he would enjoy doing?
Sparkelle
30-10-2008, 07:01
I have a suggestion:http://www.livejournal.com/
Redwulf
30-10-2008, 08:44
I have a suggestion:http://www.livejournal.com/

Or maybe everyone who bitches about Wilgroves threads could, I don't know, NOT READ THEM.
Yootopia
30-10-2008, 09:40
Ideas anyone?
End your pitiful life off a bridge / be realistic and just get a managerial job.
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 09:42
Or maybe everyone who bitches about Wilgroves threads could, I don't know, NOT READ THEM.

But where else would they get that feeling of self satisfaction?

I have a suggestion:http://www.livejournal.com/

Didn't you read his sig?
Nodinia
30-10-2008, 10:25
End your pitiful life off a bridge / be realistic and just get a managerial job.

Certainly I've noticed that people with no interest others (save themselves) do gravitate towards that. Depending where you are it may require some serious brown nosing however. Upwards of course.
Lapse
30-10-2008, 10:33
So far, I've thought about Historical, Political or Paranormal research. I'm sure there are Universities who are looking for people who'd take an academic perspective to the Paranormal. I mean they do pay Tornado Chasers....

Ideas anyone?

GO FOR IT!

you may need to go and do another few years of uni before hand, get some networking going, but if you have the motivation to succeed, I am sure you could get someone to pay you to do anything. Look before hand, as I can't see there being hundreds of jobs as paranormal investigator, but you might be pleasantly surprised. Perhaps have a look at philosophy?

Perhaps even consider completing OT, but then going into the research side - any scientific degree needs people researching!
G3N13
30-10-2008, 10:42
Didn't you read his sig?
Sorry for OT:
By default people don't see signatures or avatars. At least I don't, unless I've logged out.

It's actually refreshing to see a forum without flashy animations, turd images or oh-so-funny quotes, so I haven't turned 'em on.
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 12:27
I feel like an enabler even posting in this thread, but what do you ENJOY doing? Find a way to get paid doing something you enjoy.

I enjoy talking about politics, history, aviation, writing, and the Paranormal. I also like to work alone or with one or two people, and I prefer nights.
Dinaverg
30-10-2008, 12:41
End your pitiful life off a bridge / be realistic and just get a managerial job.

Can't tell which is more suicidal.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
30-10-2008, 14:53
I'm sure there are Universities who are looking for people who'd take an academic perspective to the Paranormal. I mean they do pay Tornado Chasers....
But tornadoes actually, y'know, exist. I mean, you can see them, and they do stuff that is demonstrable. Maybe they'd hire you on at Liberty University. Lynchburg is a pretty nice place, and the campus can be very pretty.
Kamsaki-Myu
30-10-2008, 15:18
I feel like an enabler even posting in this thread, but what do you ENJOY doing? Find a way to get paid doing something you enjoy.
I second this, and it's very much possible. You can get academic funding for pretty much anything if you can demonstrate the right credentials (and the right credentials can be gained with a little bit of study and part-time work on the side). Heck, if you talk to the right people, you can even get funding for research into undermining the foundations of civilization if you have the right background in political philosophy.
SoWiBi
30-10-2008, 16:24
I find it somewhat ironic that someone who apparently fails at basic research when his own life planning is concerned (Oh, teachers need to be able to talk loudly and clearly? What, OT need to deal constructively with lots of people? Who knew!) now thinks he wants to go into research professionally.


Cynicism aside, I think it is high time you spent some time with a professional career counselor and honestly discussed your needs and preferences with them and take it from there. Not only may talking about it that way help clarify things for yourself, they are also in a position to give you good feedback on your ideas, and will be bound to know many more occupations and possibilities than you can even imagine, therefore maybe they are able to suggest something you'd never have found on your own, and that'll be great for you.


Try not to waste any more time on "OMG what do I want to do" wrong turns just because you've not taken the time and effort to research that properly. For most people, the illusion that the perfect occupation for them will just magically appear to them in their sleep is just that. The rest of us mortals need to give it some serious thinking, researching, and watching, and more often than not may want to seek professional help on that.
Knights of Liberty
30-10-2008, 19:13
Dude, become a journalists who writes editorials.


Then you can write bloggy stuff in nationally sindicated newspapers.
Grave_n_idle
30-10-2008, 19:24
I find it somewhat ironic that someone who apparently fails at basic research when his own life planning is concerned (Oh, teachers need to be able to talk loudly and clearly? What, OT need to deal constructively with lots of people? Who knew!) now thinks he wants to go into research professionally.


Cynicism aside, I think it is high time you spent some time with a professional career counselor and honestly discussed your needs and preferences with them and take it from there. Not only may talking about it that way help clarify things for yourself, they are also in a position to give you good feedback on your ideas, and will be bound to know many more occupations and possibilities than you can even imagine, therefore maybe they are able to suggest something you'd never have found on your own, and that'll be great for you.


Try not to waste any more time on "OMG what do I want to do" wrong turns just because you've not taken the time and effort to research that properly. For most people, the illusion that the perfect occupation for them will just magically appear to them in their sleep is just that. The rest of us mortals need to give it some serious thinking, researching, and watching, and more often than not may want to seek professional help on that.

There's another aspect to the dreamyness, too - it turns out one of my dream jobs is running a video store. I love talking about movies, getting people interested in new stuff, all the trivia that goes along with it...

...but I've tried it, and it's just not realistic for a guy with a family to support.

Sometimes you have to just do whatever is avilable. Sometimes you just have to go where the money goes. Sometimes, dream jobs are for dreams.
Fassitude
30-10-2008, 19:31
I find it somewhat ironic that someone who apparently fails at basic research when his own life planning is concerned (Oh, teachers need to be able to talk loudly and clearly? What, OT need to deal constructively with lots of people? Who knew!) now thinks he wants to go into research professionally.

Not so much ironic (although it is), as it's demonstrative of an inherent deficiency in the ability to learn from past mistakes... but, you pretty much said what I was going to say. Kudos, hun. *dreams of Jaffa Cakes*
JuNii
30-10-2008, 19:34
I thought I wanted to go into programming, but that wasn't for me.

I tried being a Mainframe Admin. but that was boring.

I hated the thought of being in Tech Support because I didn't want to interact with users. but when I transferred to the job, I found I liked it.

I hated printer repair jobs, but now... :wink:

you never really can know what job is right for you untill you try it.
JuNii
30-10-2008, 19:35
There's another aspect to the dreamyness, too - it turns out one of my dream jobs is running a video store. I love talking about movies, getting people interested in new stuff, all the trivia that goes along with it...

...but I've tried it, and it's just not realistic for a guy with a family to support.

Sometimes you have to just do whatever is avilable. Sometimes you just have to go where the money goes. Sometimes, dream jobs are for dreams.

or it can be a dream hobby.

say... making a web site for your Movie reviews? ;)
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 21:03
Well I did some research, and apparently Penn State University does have a Paranormal Research Department. Which is good news for me, because now I can cite precedent when I submit the idea to a research campus here, and Universities in the area.
Call to power
30-10-2008, 21:25
be realistic and just get a managerial job.

good god! *imagines having wilgrove as a boss*

I enjoy talking about politics, history, aviation, writing, and the Paranormal. I also like to work alone or with one or two people, and I prefer nights.

being a security guard isn't too bad and at the end of the day you will be paid to watch porn (try to go for hospital security which is indoors and easy)

plus sounds like you will fit in :wink:

Well I did some research, and apparently Penn State University does have a Paranormal Research Department. Which is good news for me, because now I can cite precedent when I submit the idea to a research campus here, and Universities in the area.

:eek2: maybe you could become a gypsy and run a haunted house
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 21:31
good god! *imagines having wilgrove as a boss*

Hey, at least I'd be one of those hands off bosses.

being a security guard isn't too bad and at the end of the day you will be paid to watch porn (try to go for hospital security which is indoors and easy)

plus sounds like you will fit in :wink:

lol, yea. :p

:eek2: maybe you could become a gypsy and run a haunted house

Or we can simply acknowledge that Paranormal Research may have some academic value.
Shilah
30-10-2008, 21:33
Well I did some research, and apparently Penn State University does have a Paranormal Research Department. Which is good news for me, because now I can cite precedent when I submit the idea to a research campus here, and Universities in the area.

Funny, I would have just cited Ghostbusters (1984). Would anyone question the legitimacy of Dr. Venkman's work?
Call to power
30-10-2008, 21:42
Hey, at least I'd be one of those hands off bosses.

I was thinking more of weekly report files being big enough to kill me :p

lol, yea. :p

well if you don't like that you could always try a career in bank robbery or henchman

Or we can simply acknowledge that Paranormal Research may have some academic value.

nah, being a gypsy leaves you with a pension
Grave_n_idle
30-10-2008, 21:45
or it can be a dream hobby.

say... making a web site for your Movie reviews? ;)

I blogged movie reviews for a while, a few years back - but being po' folk interferes quite a lot with getting a good proportion of movies reviewed. :)

I actually wouldn't mind doing that as a second job if I could find someone even to just cover the cost of rental/screenings.
JuNii
30-10-2008, 21:54
I blogged movie reviews for a while, a few years back - but being po' folk interferes quite a lot with getting a good proportion of movies reviewed. :)

I actually wouldn't mind doing that as a second job if I could find someone even to just cover the cost of rental/screenings.

hmm... freelance for your local paper? do it enough and they might hire you as a part-timer?
Grave_n_idle
30-10-2008, 21:57
hmm... freelance for your local paper? do it enough and they might hire you as a part-timer?

Yeah... no. That wouldn't fly where I live. Maybe something in Atlanta.
Smunkeeville
30-10-2008, 22:14
being a security guard isn't too bad and at the end of the day you will be paid to watch porn (try to go for hospital security which is indoors and easy)

plus sounds like you will fit in :wink:
Being dispatch for hospital security was pretty sweet. I got like $12/hr (which was a lot in 1998) and all I had to do was sit in a room and watch T.V. and occasionally pick up the phone.

"someone is dying in the parking lot"
"call 911"
"oh, yeah, thanks"


"there's a fire in my trash can"
"where?"
"third floor"
"k"

and make phone calls

"yeah, the third floor is on fire"
"where?"
"hmm.....nurses station I'd guess"
"did you call 911"
"yep"
"good"
SoWiBi
31-10-2008, 12:38
Not so much ironic (although it is), as it's demonstrative of an inherent deficiency in the ability to learn from past mistakes... but, you pretty much said what I was going to say. Kudos, hun. *dreams of Jaffa Cakes*

Well, isn't that a badge of honor.

I found you orange and raspberry ones; I'll shop around a bit to see whether I can get my hands on more flavors, but they should be on their way soon :]

There's another aspect to the dreamyness, too[...]
Sometimes you have to just do whatever is avilable. Sometimes you just have to go where the money goes. Sometimes, dream jobs are for dreams.

Certainly, you cannot always do your 'dream job' - but I don't think that should mean you have to settle for 'wherever the (most) money comes from', either. There's lots of middle ground, and it is my personal opinion that you should aim for the upper part of that middle ground where you have enough money to support whatever life you think you need, but can still find enjoyment in your work that does not purely stem from the fact that you get money for it.
Myrmidonisia
31-10-2008, 12:57
If you don't like people, why did you ever start in OT?

And $30K per year is not that special... We just hired a new grad engineer with a BS only for $65K + a 3K bonus and 1000 shares of stock. A little work in college pays off.
Chumblywumbly
31-10-2008, 14:23
Well I did some research, and apparently Penn State University does have a Paranormal Research Department. Which is good news for me, because now I can cite precedent when I submit the idea to a research campus here, and Universities in the area.
That would be this (http://www.paranormalresearchsociety.org/about.php).

And it's a student organisation, not officially affiliated with Penn State, and certainly not a department of the university.
SoWiBi
31-10-2008, 15:04
That would be this (http://www.paranormalresearchsociety.org/about.php).

And it's a student organisation, not officially affiliated with Penn State, and certainly not a department of the university.

Good on you for having looked into this.

Which, of course, adds another chuckle about Wilgrove's research aptitude to those I've already voiced in my first post in this thread.
Dumb Ideologies
31-10-2008, 15:42
I have a similar problem with not being a people-person.

I think I'd only be comfortable working with people if I could somehow get into the "vicious murderings" sector.
Wilgrove
31-10-2008, 16:43
That would be this (http://www.paranormalresearchsociety.org/about.php).

And it's a student organisation, not officially affiliated with Penn State, and certainly not a department of the university.

Good on you for having looked into this.

Which, of course, adds another chuckle about Wilgrove's research aptitude to those I've already voiced in my first post in this thread.

Actually....

The Paranormal Research Society (more commonly known as PRS) is a professional organization dedicated to exploring the unknown. The organization was originally founded as a student club at Penn State on September 16th, 2001 by Ryan Buell. Buell, only 19-years-old at the time, wanted to create a professional paranormal society that was different from any other.

At first, the society's makeup comprised of undergraduate students. Six years later, however, members come from undergraduate and graduate programs. Penn State faculty and staff have also joined PRS.

In 2008, PRS transformed itself as a professional organization. Now no longer a student club, PRS continues to expand its boundaries with its research lab, a library and a growing staff.

http://www.paranormalresearchsociety.org/about.php

So there is Precedent for a Professional Paranormal Research Department.

So...what were y'all saying again?
Neo Art
31-10-2008, 17:16
Actually....



http://www.paranormalresearchsociety.org/about.php

So there is Precedent for a Professional Paranormal Research Department.

So...what were y'all saying again?

That at no point in what you quoted does the word "department" appear? Your article said it was once a student organization, now a "professional organization", which draws its membership, largely, from Penn.

That in no way means that it's a department at the university.
Knights of Liberty
31-10-2008, 17:18
That at no point in what you quoted does the word "department" appear? Your article said it was once a student organization, now a "professional organization", which draws its membership, largely, from Penn.

That in no way means that it's a department at the university.

Right, it just means they get paid now.
Wilgrove
31-10-2008, 17:19
That at no point in what you quoted does the word "department" appear? Your article said it was once a student organization, now a "professional organization", which draws its membership, largely, from Penn.

That in no way means that it's a department at the university.

Penn State does support it, it may not be an official department, per se.

I think if I can write a good proposal for the Research Campus in my neck of the woods, I can get somewhere. I mean Hell, there's been frivolous research done in the past that's been supported by Research institution and Universities.

I'll have someone look over my proposal before I submit it though, want to make sure it's up to snuff and looks professional.
Chumblywumbly
31-10-2008, 17:24
http://www.paranormalresearchsociety.org/about.php

So there is Precedent for a Professional Paranormal Research Department.

So...what were y'all saying again?
That if you want to "cite precedent when [you] submit the idea to a research campus here, and Universities in the area", you won't be able to cite this as anything more than a private organisation grown out of a student club. (And how 'professional' is the PRS? Are any of the four staff holding this down as a regular job? I would have doubts.)

Unless I'm mistaken, you're wanting to go into academic research. This Derek Acorah-style stuff won't be acceptable to creditable academic institutions. What would be much more suitable would be research into the historical/current belief of the supernatural, the psychology of the supernatural, a subject covered in some philosophy of religion courses.

By all means look into it, but I think you're kidding yourself if you believe any major university would put you on their pay-roll to 'investigate' hauntings.
Neo Art
31-10-2008, 17:24
Penn State does support it.

By what evidence? I haven't seen anything that says they get support from the university.

Individual members of the university, sure, but that's something different.
Neo Art
31-10-2008, 17:28
That if you want to "cite precedent when [you] submit the idea to a research campus here, and Universities in the area", you won't be able to cite this as anything more than a private organisation grown out of a student club. (And how 'professional' is the PRS? Are any of the four staff holding this down as a regular job? I would have doubts.)

Unless I'm mistaken, you're wanting to go into academic research. This Derek Acorah-style stuff won't be acceptable to creditable academic institutions. What would be much more suitable would be research into the historical/current belief of the supernatural, the psychology of the supernatural, a subject covered in some philosophy of religion courses.

By all means look into it, but I think you're kidding yourself if you believe any major university would put you on their pay-roll to 'investigate' hauntings.

Now, see, a cross disciplin study of the supernatural, approached from historical, psychological, sociological and religious standpoints, exploring the roots of supernatural beliefs, from those perspectives, might actually make for an interesting thesis.

But to have a university sponsor Wilgrove to wander old houses with "EMP detectors" and other sundry parphenalia a la Dean and Sam Winchester?

No, not a chance.
Wilgrove
31-10-2008, 17:35
That if you want to "cite precedent when [you] submit the idea to a research campus here, and Universities in the area", you won't be able to cite this as anything more than a private organisation grown out of a student club. (And how 'professional' is the PRS? Are any of the four staff holding this down as a regular job? I would have doubts.)

I'm sure some people are holding it down as a real job, I plan to get in contact with the PRS soon, as well as TAPS, and several other Paranormal Research Organization.

Unless I'm mistaken, you're wanting to go into academic research. This Derek Acorah-style stuff won't be acceptable to creditable academic institutions. What would be much more suitable would be research into the historical/current belief of the supernatural, the psychology of the supernatural, a subject covered in some philosophy of religion courses.

Well first I had to google Derek Acorah to find out who the Hell he is. Once I found that out, I laughed. Please, I put as much stock in Psychics and Mediums as I do as Santa Claus or The Tooth Fairy. I'll cite you a part of my proposal to show how I plan to carry out the research.

However, the P.R.D. will establish guidelines in its research methodology.

1. No Psychics or Medium. Their ability cannot be recorded or measured, so their service will have no appreciable value.

2. No Ouija Board or Séances, once again, Ouija Boards and Séances have no appreciable research value.

3. Only use equipment that can collect data that can be analyzed and verified.

4. We will approach every case in an un-biased manner. If one member of the team has biases, then he will not be an efficient researcher.

5. Everything will be handled in an ethical fashion and everyone involved, the P.R.D. team and its client will be treated with respect and common courtesy.

Of course, this is a rough draft of the proposal.

By all means look into it, but I think you're kidding yourself if you believe any major university would put you on their pay-roll to 'investigate' hauntings.

Actually investigate the Paranormal, but whatever. Colleges do this all the time. Hell Duke University has a Parapsychology Research department.

Hey, if University spend money to find out why we like sex, then I don't see any reason why they wouldn't spend money on this, given the fact that the majority of human society do believe in one form of the Paranormal to another, so it's relevant to our society.
Wilgrove
31-10-2008, 17:39
Now, see, a cross disciplin study of the supernatural, approached from historical, psychological, sociological and religious standpoints, exploring the roots of supernatural beliefs, from those perspectives, might actually make for an interesting thesis.

It is a good idea, I will admit this. However, the problem is I only specialize in the Historical aspect, I will still need a team to do the Psychological, Sociological and religious standpoint.
Quintessence of Dust
31-10-2008, 17:42
I think your whole attitude is abominably silly. Nonetheless, my proverbial tuppence:

Tactically, you might be better off taking the following route:

- Choose a more conventional intellectual framework. Many HPS, history, anthropology, folklore studies, and other departments would consider candidates investigating the history of the paranormal. The history of early American (pre-revolutionary) attitudes to magic is an especially rich area of research, partly because it is tied closely to major historiographical issues on the role of religion in American society, and of the role of puritanism (James Morone's Hellfire Nation is still a recent publication). While I know nothing of your academic background and credentials, it's certainly conceivable that you could get into a program to study some aspect relating to the history or sociology of the paranormal.

- Once you're in, many more doors will open up to you. At conferences, in conversation with other students and academics, you'll be able to find out how many share your interests. Whether or not you actually change the track of your PhD, you'll be in a stronger position to pursue a new research angle once you've actually gained academic experience.

- There'll be an additional advantage: in a few years' time, you may have grown out of this infantilism.
Chumblywumbly
31-10-2008, 17:53
Actually investigate the Paranormal, but whatever. Colleges do this all the time. Hell Duke University has a Parapsychology Research department.
Which I'm positive doesn't investigate it the way the PRS do.

Check out this (http://www.hollowhill.com/ghost-hunting/parapsychologydegree.htm) page:

In most cases, universities offer parapsychology courses, but edge away from controversy by labeling them something else. Catch phrases include "consciousness" and "alternative psychology."

Some colleges study the beliefs, causes, and attitudes towards psychic phenomena--including ghosts, "luck," remote viewing, etc.--but usually in their departments of psychology, biology, or social sciences...

And, the fact is: Even with a parapsychology degree from a respected academic institution, you're unlikely to find full-time research work in this field. Most full-time ghost hunters are self-employed, and have spent considerable time marketing themselves. That's very different from the luxury of doing serious, full-time research in a respected scientific setting...

Frankly, you can learn as much or more by reading books by ghost hunters, studying regional folklore, and going on as many ghost hunts as possible. And, all that takes is a library card and time spent in the field.
For your own sake, it'd be best to step back and examine your position. Do some genuine research into whether this is a viable career (which I doubt), or merely a hobby. Use yer heid, kiddo.
Wilgrove
31-10-2008, 17:59
For your own sake, it'd be best to step back and examine your position. Do some genuine research into whether this is a viable career (which I doubt), or merely a hobby. Use yer heid, kiddo.

Fair enough, I should contact some of these professional Paranormal Research teams anyways, to see what makes them professional and see if it's viable for me.
Quintessence of Dust
31-10-2008, 18:01
Also, from the Rhine Center's wobsite:
here are many people who would like to do work in the field of Parapsychology. However, there are relatively few accredited institutions in which a person can pursue a doctorate in this field. You should realize that most parapsychological work is done part-time by dedicated people who support themselves with other employment. There are probably no more than 30 or 40 full-time parapsychologists in the world, and most of these are badly underpaid in terms of their academic credentials. This is a popular field in terms of popular interests, but perhaps paradoxically, it is a very unpopular field in terms of the academic mainstream.
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The best way to prepare yourself for scientific work in this field is by pursuing a doctorate (or equivalent terminal degree) in some related mainstream field, and then look for opportunities to carry out research after your studies are finished and your employment is secure. You can then join the Parapsychological Association and make yourself current on the research literature. Present-day parapsychologists have advanced degrees in many disciplines: psychology, biology, medicine, physics, engineering, sociology, and philosophy, are probably the most common.
http://www.rhine.org/education.shtml
JuNii
31-10-2008, 18:49
*Wonders when we'll see Wilgrove on Ghost Hunters*
Wilgrove
31-10-2008, 18:58
*Wonders when we'll see Wilgrove on Ghost Hunters*

*laughs*, you won't, because the last thing I need is for half of the damn country to know about my speech impediment.
Pompous world
31-10-2008, 19:00
Hmmm, psychology would be cool, then you could study people who claim to have been visited by ghosts, you could call yourself a parapsychologist and set up your own ghost busting business with other academics from the physics department.
Zombie PotatoHeads
02-11-2008, 07:18
*Wonders when we'll see Wilgrove on Ghost Hunters*
we won't, because the time it'd take him to get to the level of being interesting enough to put on TV he'd have grown bored of this like everything else he's done and found something wrong with it; gone onto NS (again) and complained to us about how "it's not what he expected" and ask us "what do we think he should do next?"
He appears to be under the delusion that all he needs to do is write up a proposal and the University will accept it, stick on payroll, give him his own office and department and find him a suitable collection of odd-ball but talented researchers to wander deserted run-down houses searching for ghosties.
If I didn't know any better I'd swear he's been watching too many old Scooby Doo cartoons.