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Happy Samhain/Hallowen

Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 03:00
Well, I'll be busy on Friday (The date Samhain is), so I won't be able to post on NSG, so I'd thought I wish everyone a Happy Samhain/Halloween. :)

This is my altar space.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/PAY5353/1029082037.jpg

Information on Samhain. (http://www.wicca.com/celtic/akasha/samhainlore.htm)
Callisdrun
30-10-2008, 03:02
Happy Samhain. When did you adopt paganism?

I actually have a gig playing bass with my friends at somebody's house party on Samhain/Halloween. Should be fun.
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 03:06
Happy Samhain. When did you adopt paganism?

I actually have a gig playing bass with my friends at somebody's house party on Samhain/Halloween. Should be fun.

I left the Church after Easter '07, and I adopted Paganism about halfway between then and now.
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 03:07
What's the knife for Wilgrove?

I meant to go to a party tomorrow for All Hollows Eve/Halloween/Samhain but I don't have anything to dress up in maybe I will just spend the night at home watching some movies or playing FIFA09.
New Limacon
30-10-2008, 03:10
Happy Samhain! Don't forget, it's the reason for the season (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/in_the_know_has_halloween_become).
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 03:22
What's the knife for Wilgrove?

That is a Seax or Athame. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athame)
Dumb Ideologies
30-10-2008, 03:24
I'm not going to be doing anything. I think its a silly festival designed for nothing more than to make money, aside from the tiny minority for whom it has religious meaning. If anyone dares utter the words "trick or treat" at my door (less likely than previous years, since I live inside a block in uni accommodation, and so they'd have to get through the first set of locked doors to get to the corridor) I will declare my preference for "trick" before spraying them with a fire extinguisher, stripping naked, playing Rick Astley at full volume through my mobile phone and treating them to an interpretative dance performance to "Never Gonna Give You Up", while carrying an apparently bloodstained knife from a prop shop. Yeh, you little brats, you've got your costumes, but which of us is scared shitless right now?
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 03:27
That is a Seax or Athame. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athame)

k, cheers.

Now the link you posted in your OP says end of summer, but October isn't the end of summer, summer ends when the Autum equinox occurs which is 21st of September.

Also what would you do if you lived in the Southern Hemisphere? Would you perfom the Samhain at the end of April? (April being the corresponding month to October), as the seasons are different and Summer is one the way for those people.
Callisdrun
30-10-2008, 03:30
k, cheers.

Now the link you posted in your OP says end of summer, but October isn't the end of summer, summer ends when the Autum equinox occurs which is 21st of September.

Also what would you do if you lived in the Southern Hemisphere? Would you perfom the Samhain at the end of April? (April being the corresponding month to October), as the seasons are different and Summer is one the way for those people.

The beginnings and ends of seasons have not always been set. Different peoples have defined different borders for the seasons, and the end of October is no more silly for the end of summer than the 21st of December is for the end of fall.
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 03:31
I'm not going to be doing anything. I think its a silly festival designed for nothing more than to make money, aside from the tiny minority for whom it has religious meaning. If anyone dares utter the words "trick or treat" at my door (less likely than previous years, since I live inside a block in uni accommodation, and so they'd have to get through the first set of locked doors to get to the corridor) I will declare my preference for "trick" before spraying them with a fire extinguisher, stripping naked, playing Rick Astley at full volume through my mobile phone and treating them to an interpretative dance performance to "Never Gonna Give You Up", while carrying an apparently bloodstained knife from a prop shop. Yeh, you little brats, you've got your costumes, but which of us is scared shitless right now?

lol, I would send someone up there just to see that.

I remember a couple of years ago some kid I think he was about 14-15 going around saying trick-or-treat he knocked on my door and said trick-or-treat. I told him to bugger off and continued to tell him that he was in Australia and not America and we don't do that over here, and had a little rant about how American TV is wrecking our culture, just like when you see kids calling the footpath a sidewalk and rubbish as trash no it isn't a sidewalk I'm stopping before I go on.
New Manvir
30-10-2008, 03:31
WITCHCRAFT!!!! BURN HIM!!!

*Sends out signal for Nanatsu and her Inquisition*

I'll get the pyre ready.
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 03:33
The beginnings and ends of seasons have not always been set. Different peoples have defined different borders for the seasons, and the end of October is no more silly for the end of summer than the 21st of December is for the end of fall.

Well I would say the changing season is a good way of describing it, but that is just me better than saying that the end of summer is 28th of Feb when the next two weeeks are boiling hot but that is just me. But I suppose that answers the first question though.
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 03:33
WITCHCRAFT!!!! BURN HIM!!!

*Sends out signal for Nanatsu and her Inquisition*

I'll get the pyre ready.

I call upon Spirit of Wind to blow out your fire!
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 03:34
I call upon Spirit of Wind to blow out your fire!

Yeah but what are you going to do about the whips?
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 03:35
Well I would say the changing season is a good way of describing it, but that is just me better than saying that the end of summer is 28th of Feb when the next two weeeks are boiling hot but that is just me. But I suppose that answers the first question though.

In Wicca at least, there are eight sabbats, even though many different sect of Wicca call them by different name, they all pretty much have the same meaning.

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1614/Celtwicc/Wicca/Wicca04.htm
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 03:35
Yeah but what are you going to do about the whips?

I shall use my psychic shield to protect thyself!
New Manvir
30-10-2008, 03:41
Yeah but what are you going to do about the whips?

Careful...he has powers...
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 03:42
In Wicca at least, there are eight sabbats, even though many different sect of Wicca call them by different name, they all pretty much have the same meaning.

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1614/Celtwicc/Wicca/Wicca04.htm

Mate I don't want to sound like I'm attacking it or anything I'm asking these questions because I want to know more.

Now the link is the post I quited shows that fall or autum falls between Lammas and Samhaine and fall ends with Samhain, yet the llink in the OP says summer, now does that mean that the link in the OP maybe saying summer goes from Beltane to Samhain? And may only have two season?

But this is like New Years Eve for you?
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 03:44
I shall use my psychic shield to protect thyself!

What you don't like whips?

Or the more for me, where is Nanatsu?

Careful...he has powers...

I know that is why I tread carefully.
Callisdrun
30-10-2008, 03:46
What you don't like whips?

Or the more for me, where is Nanatsu?
Oh my, Nanatsu with whips....
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 03:48
Oh my, Nanatsu with whips....

You don't know the half of it.
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 04:05
Mate I don't want to sound like I'm attacking it or anything I'm asking these questions because I want to know more.

Now the link is the post I quited shows that fall or autum falls between Lammas and Samhaine

Lammas or Lughnasadh is when the God start to enter into old age, it is the first of the three harvest festival, samhaine or Samhain being the last. Lughnasadh is when the God starts to get old. Samhain is the last of the harvest festival and it is the New year for Pagans. It's when the veil between the living world and the afterlife is at it's thinnest and spirits from the afterlife can cross over and be with the living. That's why you see some Pagan put offering on grave sites. Samhain is also when the God dies.

and fall ends with Samhain, yet the llink in the OP says summer, now does that mean that the link in the OP maybe saying summer goes from Beltane to Samhain? And may only have two season?

From what I have learned, Summer is marked by Beltane and Lughnasadh. Fall is marked by Lughnasadh and Samhain.

One thing to keep in mind about the Sabbat is that we have major sabbats and minor sabbats.

Major
Samhain
Imbolc
Beltane
Lughnasadh

Minor
Yule
Spring/Eostara
Midsummer/Litha
Autum/Mabon

The Major ones celebrate the change of the season and the minor one celebrates the mid-point of the season.

Sabbats are all about seasons.
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 04:17
Ah I see, k thanks Wilgrove.
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 04:19
Ah I see, k thanks Wilgrove.

No prob, happy to help. :)
Redwulf
30-10-2008, 04:25
Yeah but what are you going to do about the whips?

Enjoy them?
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 04:30
Enjoy them?

Well if your into that sort of thing. :wink:
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 04:33
Why do all of my threads turn into discussion about BDSM? :p
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 04:35
Why do all of my threads turn into discussion about BDSM? :p

You just have that affect on people. :p
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 04:43
You just have that affect on people. :p

Too bad it's mostly on men. :(
Katganistan
30-10-2008, 04:48
I'm not going to be doing anything. I think its a silly festival designed for nothing more than to make money, aside from the tiny minority for whom it has religious meaning. If anyone dares utter the words "trick or treat" at my door (less likely than previous years, since I live inside a block in uni accommodation, and so they'd have to get through the first set of locked doors to get to the corridor) I will declare my preference for "trick" before spraying them with a fire extinguisher, stripping naked, playing Rick Astley at full volume through my mobile phone and treating them to an interpretative dance performance to "Never Gonna Give You Up", while carrying an apparently bloodstained knife from a prop shop. Yeh, you little brats, you've got your costumes, but which of us is scared shitless right now?
Handing them a microscopic Snicker bar is ever so much less work. And you get to eat Snicker bars while you wait for 'em.
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 04:58
Too bad it's mostly on men. :(

What you don't swing that way either? Oh well not to worry Wilgrove you should use the "I fly airplanes" line more often.
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 04:58
Handing them a microscopic Snicker bar is ever so much less work. And you get to eat Snicker bars while you wait for 'em.

My parent's house is in the woods, and they have a long driveway. You cannot see their house from the woods. For as long as I can remember, my mom always brought candy for trick-or-theaters, and every year, without fail, no one shows up. It's funny and sad at the same time.
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 05:00
What you don't swing that way either? Oh well not to worry Wilgrove you should use the "I fly airplanes" line more often.

It's not as impressive as you might think it would be. Most of the women I meet are scared of the little airplanes.

Now if I tell them I pilot an F-14.... hehehehehe
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 05:05
Yeah well that's exactly what you have got to do they will be all over you. I have a friend that when in high school no girl would give him the time of day, now he is in the RAN flying helicopters when oout at bars he tells them that he is a pilot and the girls are all over him.

Tell them you do fly the big planes a little white lie isn't going to hurt themor you.
Katganistan
30-10-2008, 05:06
My parent's house is in the woods, and they have a long driveway. You cannot see their house from the woods. For as long as I can remember, my mom always brought candy for trick-or-theaters, and every year, without fail, no one shows up. It's funny and sad at the same time.
The one year she doesn't, someone will find their way to the house, you know.
Besides -- leftovers never go to waste.
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 05:08
The one year she doesn't, someone will find their way to the house, you know.
Besides -- leftovers never go to waste.

After Halloween we have another tradition at my Parent's house. My mom going on a crash diet that doesn't last because Thanksgiving and Christmas is around the corner.
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 05:14
After Halloween we have another tradition at my Parent's house. My mom going on a crash diet that doesn't last because Thanksgiving and Christmas is around the corner.

Damn holidays, and the problem with being in Australia is that it is summer so you can't hide the weight you have put on as you're down at the beach, if you want to keep up to shape and pleasing to the eye you have to increase the amount of exercise you do which is hard to do when the temps are topping 40.
Callisdrun
30-10-2008, 05:26
Handing them a microscopic Snicker bar is ever so much less work. And you get to eat Snicker bars while you wait for 'em.

While I still lived at home, we'd buy two kinds of candy: Tootsie rolls and Reese's Cups. We always gave out the Tootsie rolls first, in the hope that when the night ended, we'd still have the Reese's cups.
Katganistan
30-10-2008, 05:27
For us in Yankland, 40 is brisk and cold. ;)
Callisdrun
30-10-2008, 05:29
My parent's house is in the woods, and they have a long driveway. You cannot see their house from the woods. For as long as I can remember, my mom always brought candy for trick-or-theaters, and every year, without fail, no one shows up. It's funny and sad at the same time.

Mention this fact to some child and she'll always get trick or treaters. There's always a bit of rudimentary strategy to finding the places that "nobody else knows about" for kids, because they tend to give out the most candy. Ah, I remember being a kid... good times
Andaluciae
30-10-2008, 05:37
If I worship anything on Friday night, it'll be the porcelain god.
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 05:40
For us in Yankland, 40 is brisk and cold. ;)

Oh yes I should say 40 degrees celsius.

Which for you yanks is 104
Ryadn
30-10-2008, 05:57
Merry Samhain. I planned to hit the Castro with friends this year, but if it rains I may cancel and stay in to do a private ritual instead.
Errinundera
30-10-2008, 06:44
I fear I'm going to sound like a Jonah but I really don't approve of the growing amount of activity on Halloween here in Autralia.

- Basically, it's blackmail. Some kid comes to your door and threatens to vandalise your home if you don't give them something.

- It commemmorates bigotry, hatred and the unjust slaugther of innocent people.

- It has no cultural relevance in Australia.

<Sorry about the whinge>
Blouman Empire
30-10-2008, 06:46
I fear I'm going to sound like a Jonah but I really don't approve of the growing amount of activity on Halloween here in Autralia.

- Basically, it's blackmail. Some kid comes to your door and threatens to vandalise your home if you don't give them something.

- It has no cultural relevance in Australia.

<Sorry about the whinge>

Ditto, and I could go on about this but I won't.
Delator
30-10-2008, 06:49
If I worship anything on Friday night, it'll be the porcelain god.

Indeed...while wearing a costume!!! How often does one get such a glorious opportunity?? :tongue:
Delator
30-10-2008, 06:53
It commemmorates bigotry, hatred and the unjust slaugther of innocent people.

Huh? What?

It's a holiday for kids....WHY SO SERIOUS?
Errinundera
30-10-2008, 07:09
Huh? What?

It's a holiday for kids....WHY SO SERIOUS?

For sure you are right but killing "witches" should be celebrated?
Callisdrun
30-10-2008, 07:42
For sure you are right but killing "witches" should be celebrated?

Um... Halloween has its origins in the pagan festival known as Samhain...
Redwulf
30-10-2008, 09:06
I fear I'm going to sound like a Jonah but I really don't approve of the growing amount of activity on Halloween here in Autralia.

<SNIP>

- It commemmorates bigotry, hatred and the unjust slaugther of innocent people.

<SNIP>

For sure you are right but killing "witches" should be celebrated?

http://fc70.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/196/3/5/LOL_WHUT_by_snookie_pudge.jpg
Wilgrove
30-10-2008, 11:42
Um... Halloween has its origins in the pagan festival known as Samhain...

Wasn't that mentioned in the OP?
Callisdrun
30-10-2008, 12:51
Wasn't that mentioned in the OP?

It was. I'm startled to see such a misconception.
Western Mercenary Unio
30-10-2008, 13:00
I've only heard of Samlein from an X-files episode. As for halloween, I'm not really into It. I'd rather stay at home playing GTA IV or Forza Motorsport 2.
New Wallonochia
30-10-2008, 13:03
Unfortunately I'll be on the road to Iraq on Halloween. If I were going to be home my buddy and I planned on switching uniform tops (which have our names, ranks and certain identifying patches) and go trick or treating at the other tents dressed as each other. Our first planned stop was to be the Colonel's tent.
Ifreann
30-10-2008, 14:07
Oiche Samhain maith duit :)
Nanatsu no Tsuki
30-10-2008, 14:09
Happy Samhain, Wil! :)
Vampire Knight Zero
30-10-2008, 14:15
Erm yes, enjoy yourself. :)
Andaluciae
30-10-2008, 15:04
Indeed...while wearing a costume!!! How often does one get such a glorious opportunity?? :tongue:

Exceptionally rarely! I think I'll probably be dressing up as...well...I have no idea...I'll figure it out!