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DISCLAIMER: I am not a sexist, and I know women are not bad drivers.

Just some vent time, I honestly think that stupid suburban housewife talking on mobile phones should be banned from driving SUVs, and heres why.

( Warning, If your a women and drive a SUV, this is going to piss you off ).

So, my 1st day of college, went great. Like all the class mates and teachers. GF seems happy with my hours, just got a new place and all that. So traffic was backed up pretty bad out of Robinson. So I decide to pull into Micky Ds for some Sweet Tea and a Burger.

Now, I do tend to speed, but I'm also a pretty safe driver and ALWAYS yeild to whoever has the right of way. So I'm waiting to pull out of the Parking lot onto 60, and this suburbanite blonde botaxed up housewife just flys right ahead of me and cuts me off as I'm pulling out ( AHEM, I'm pulling out, and she flys AROUND me on a BUSY ROAD. ). She came about a inch from fucking hitting my car.

So I merge onto 79 and start heading home, I'm doing about 70. Have my cruise control set and I'm paying attention very closely because traffic is pretty heavy. And as you all know, when your on the highway, YOU have the right of way. Not people merging onto the highway. So I noticed that yet ANOTHER suburbanite housewise in a massive SUV not paying attention is merging on, RIGHT NEXT TO ME WHILE THERE IS ANOTHER CAR IN THE LANE NEXT TO ME. So I shoved it into 3rd and floored it. I held down my horn and flipped her off. So of course she starts riding my bumper.

At this point I noticed that I needed gas, fast. ( I don't pay attention to my gas gauge unless it starts beeping ). So I go off the next exit. And she FOLLOWS me to the gas station. I get out of my car and start filling up. She then pulls up next to me and rolls down her window and starts yelling " WHY ARE YOU GIVING ME THE FINGER AND CUTTING ME OFF!? I HAVE KIDS IN HERE! ". I simply respond in the most mature way possible, well mature if you consider she almost killed me. " Well, maybe if your fake boobs werent sucking all the blood out of your brain you would realize that I have the right of way not you. So why dont you stop being a fucking ****, and start paying attention to basic traffic laws before you fucking kill someone. ".

At that point, she sped off and I merge back onto 79. And I shit you not. 5 Minutes later. Another suburbanite housewife talking on a cell phone going about 80 in the fast lane, switches over to the right lane, about 2 feet in front of me with no blinker, I slam on my brakes to avoid an accident.

So thats 3 times in one day I'm almost killed by a rich over botoxed pile of shit suburbanite housewife who cannot drive.

Just needed some vent time.

Has anyone else noticed this kinda trend with idiots driving SUVs ( NOT JUST WOMEN EITHER )

People who drive SUVs around town getting food and picking up kids are morons, anti social, aggressive, selfish piles of useless shit who don't give a damn if another driver is killed because of how fucking stupid they are.

And sure, my family has a bigass F350. But theres ALWAYS a trailer behind it. It is NEVER driven for daily use.


I'm tempted to carry a fucking brick in my glovebox.

Yes, usually young people texting wildly while trying to drive a vehicle that's way too much for them.

Can't stand them! Also they mostly (bleached) Blonde. Annoying as hell just to see them.. BUT!! I've been driving for many years, and the most reckless and inconsiderate drivers I've seen in my time.. MEN. White men. In fucking trucks.

One backed in to me when I was parked pumping gas.. he got out (whyd he do that?) and started talking shit to me! I've had men basically run right out the fuck in front of me from side roads. The only other races/sexes I've noticed that cant drive worth a shit are some black women, 1 asian (we dont have many round here) and mexican chics (again not many). Most close encounters, White Men. Most annoying tho.. cause they are always there ... SUV driving white women. But at least they don't run the fuck out on front of ya. They just pull up real far, block your view of getting out, cruise in the left lane on the interstate.

I have to agree with the OP, as much as I hate to. I've seen it too many times in my neighborhood.

And not just suburbanites, but city dwellers as well. They usually all have three things in common: Female, cell phone, SUV or similar vehicle.

I still say my favorite one is a cop pulling one over. He reached in, grabbed her phone, tossed it behind him, and wrote her up. The look on her face as I crushed her phone under my tires while flipping her off was priceless.

Can't stand them! Also the mostly Blonde (bleached). annoying as hell just to see them.. BUT!! I've been driving for many years, and the most reckless and inconsiderate drivers I've seen in my time.. MEN. White men. In fucking trucks.

Tied for worst with women from the Middle East. They dither, they can't make a decision, the waver between timid and aggressive - it's aggravating.

I've noticed the following:

Minivan drivers are generally incompetent. Vehicles with those little Jesus fish are generally driven by morons (this is not a swipe at the religious). Bumper stickers tend to correlate with aggressiveness. So, then, what do you get when you combine all three?

A goddamn rolling deathtrap, that's what. I actually enjoy driving, but these slackjawed idiots ruin it for everyone.

I find when driving that there is a positive correlation between assholes and SUV's and also bad driving and cell phones.

This falls under the general category of "Using cell phones while driving is bad, mmkay?"

Can't stand them! Also they mostly (bleached) Blonde. Annoying as hell just to see them.. BUT!! I've been driving for many years, and the most reckless and inconsiderate drivers I've seen in my time.. MEN. White men. In fucking trucks.

One backed in to me when I was parked pumping gas.. he got out (whyd he do that?) and started talking shit to me! I've had men basically run right out the fuck in front of me from side roads. The only other races/sexes I've noticed that cant drive worth a shit are some black women, 1 asian (we dont have many round here) and mexican chics (again not many). Most close encounters, White Men. Most annoying tho.. cause they are always there ... SUV driving white women. But at least they don't run the fuck out on front of ya. They just pull up real far, block your view of getting out, cruise in the left lane on the interstate.

If it's a dude driving a jacked up SUV or pickup truck, they're almost guaranteed to be a total douchebag. Pretty much every time I've been on the highway and I've seen one of those, he's doing some dickish thing. Tailgating most often. Also cutting people off, crossing all the lanes at once without signaling at all, etc.

Not many dots around here. But I believe it. That asian chic I mentioned, we were at a massive intersection... She went out and I almost rammed her ass. She was Vietnamese. Call me racist or what have you, but I knew.

If it's a dude driving a jacked up SUV or pickup truck, they're almost guaranteed to be a total douchebag. Pretty much every time I've been on the highway and I've seen one of those, he's doing some dickish thing. Tailgating most often. Also cutting people off, crossing all the lanes at once without signaling at all, etc.


Yeah , so far they are the worst. Not 'Mack' truck (truckers) , but the other hogs. Assholes lol.

Doesn't require a jacked up tho. Those butts so far have been driving high powered reg/diesal regular working trucks. Just been my majority of close calls from assholes. Oh yeah, they hate turn signals!

Ironic, cause it's a known a sterotype of women to not use turn signals. Which is bull shit, I rarely see a woman who doesn't.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a sexist, and I know women are not bad drivers.

You do realize that you're sunk right here, don't you? "I'm not sexist, but..." is never a good way to show you're not sexist.

Just some vent time, I honestly think that stupid suburban housewife talking on mobile phones should be banned from driving SUVs, and heres why.

So it's only suburban housewives, is it? I've been nearly sideswiped by young and middle-aged men on cell phones. I don't think gender is the issue.

( Warning, If your a women and drive a SUV, this is going to piss you off ).

Not nearly as much as your grammar, but go on (it's "you're a woman", for future reference).

So, my 1st day of college, went great. Like all the class mates and teachers. GF seems happy with my hours, just got a new place and all that. So traffic was backed up pretty bad out of Robinson. So I decide to pull into Micky Ds for some Sweet Tea and a Burger.

Wow, college starts late where you are. Sensible move to wait out part of rush hour with food.

Now, I do tend to speed, but I'm also a pretty safe driver and ALWAYS yeild to whoever has the right of way.

So you thinking that you're a "pretty safe driver" allows you to speed with impunity? This is driver arrogance. Also, I before E.

So I'm waiting to pull out of the Parking lot onto 60, and this suburbanite blonde botaxed up housewife just flys right ahead of me and cuts me off as I'm pulling out ( AHEM, I'm pulling out, and she flys AROUND me on a BUSY ROAD. ). She came about a inch from fucking hitting my car.

I realize you're angry here, but we weren't there to witness this. What does it matter if the driver was a user of botox, blonde, or from the 'burbs? She should have stopped for you had you been in the act of pulling out long before she was close to you, but, having not been there, I can't judge. Is it possible that you pulled out with not enough space to allow her to stop, or is it your contention that you had enough room but she didn't notice you, or just chose to blow by you?

So I merge onto 79 and start heading home, I'm doing about 70. Have my cruise control set and I'm paying attention very closely because traffic is pretty heavy. And as you all know, when your on the highway, YOU have the right of way. Not people merging onto the highway.

That depends on which lane you're driving in. If you're in the lane which on-ramps connect to (far right or far left if you're in the UK/Oz/left-drive nations), you're responsible for the smooth integration of merging traffic as much as the merging traffic is. In short, you MAY have to yield if the situation demands you do so in order to keep things flowing well.

So I noticed that yet ANOTHER suburbanite housewise in a massive SUV not paying attention is merging on, RIGHT NEXT TO ME WHILE THERE IS ANOTHER CAR IN THE LANE NEXT TO ME. So I shoved it into 3rd and floored it.

Again, it matters where someone lives and what someone does during the day? Never mind. Looks like she didn't look for an open spot and adjust her speed accordingly. Fail on her part, to be sure. Your choices were to use the brake or the accelerator, and you chose the latter. Well done. Collision avoided, traffic flows on smoothly.

I held down my horn and flipped her off.

And right there you lost my sympathy. You're judging the state of mind of someone you don't know and assuming that she chose not to see you and that it was somehow personal. I'm not saying your reaction was unusual, just uncalled for. Shit happens on the freeway, but unless you have some kind of proof that whatever happened was in fact a direct affront to you personally, you've no cause to react as if it were. What you did was provoke a situation into being a confrontation instead of just letting it go and writing it off to part of driving in a societal system. This is not surprising, given your previous posts have given me the impression that you believe that the roads belong to you.

So of course she starts riding my bumper.

You say that as if you knew that was going to be the reaction to your unjustified and childish response to a fairly common freeway incident. It's almost like you were counting on that reaction.

At this point I noticed that I needed gas, fast. ( I don't pay attention to my gas gauge unless it starts beeping ).

Good thing you weren't out in the boonies. So you are to be understood for not paying attention to one aspect of driving (two, if you count your admitted speeding from earlier), yet one merging driver doesn't pay attention, and suddenly that's a heinous crime?

I'm not saying there aren't idiots out there, ECF, but taking such incidents so personally is what causes road rage incidents. What if it hadn't been a "suburbanite housewife" with kids in the car, but a quartet of thugs with more of a problem with taking things personally than you've got? You could have been assaulted or worse. Just a thought.

So I go off the next exit. And she FOLLOWS me to the gas station. I get out of my car and start filling up. She then pulls up next to me and rolls down her window and starts yelling " WHY ARE YOU GIVING ME THE FINGER AND CUTTING ME OFF!? I HAVE KIDS IN HERE! ".

So she is guilty of the same childish thoughtlessness that you are. Neat.

I simply respond in the most mature way possible, well mature if you consider she almost killed me.

Thou sayest.

"Well, maybe if your fake boobs werent sucking all the blood out of your brain you would realize that I have the right of way not you. So why dont you stop being a fucking ****, and start paying attention to basic traffic laws before you fucking kill someone. "

You mean like speed limits and your fuel gauge? Okay, seriously, nice rebuttal there to someone who should have shrugged you off as an asshole when you reacted badly instead of shrugging HER off as a garden-variety inattentive driver (regardless of gender, hair color or address). I rarely have such wit at my command when the adrenaline is flowing. Kudos.

At that point, she sped off and I merge back onto 79. And I shit you not. 5 Minutes later. Another suburbanite housewife talking on a cell phone going about 80 in the fast lane, switches over to the right lane, about 2 feet in front of me with no blinker, I slam on my brakes to avoid an accident.

Not your day, was it?

So thats 3 times in one day I'm almost killed by a rich over botoxed pile of shit suburbanite housewife who cannot drive.

Again, part and parcel of being on the freeway. Even the most alert can have an idiot jump up and bite them in the ass. It doesn't mean there's a suburbanite vendetta against you.

Just needed some vent time.

That, I understand completely.

Has anyone else noticed this kinda trend with idiots driving SUVs (NOT JUST WOMEN EITHER)

Not just SUVs, either, for that matter.

There are idiots in society, therefore there are idiots on the freeway. You can choose to deal with that fact by getting angry and taking it personally, or by understanding that shit like this happens and you're smart enough to avoid being a victim of it -- and letting it go.

I understand that part of you're letting it go is here, venting, but it's far more important to let it go while you're out there. You will never know when the person you've flipped off has had a worse day that you've EVER had and is also armed, or pushed to the point where that person's going to test the limits of his insurance policy on your car, or your ass.

I'm not telling you how to live your life, brother, but with all the stress caused by things we can't control, why add more from things we can?

The industry marketing stuff for SUVs is a fascinating read. SUVs actually appeal to people who perceive themselves as poor drivers and generally lack faith in their own abilities.

Generally they are a prop for the insecure. No doubt this explains all the aggressive driving.

I keep promising myself that one day I am going to go out and buy 98 Brougham or someshit and just get revenge on somebody in a brand new Tahoe. It's be worth it to see their face. (Most SUV drivers also can't really afford their car either).

The issue is SUVs (think of the Earth guys - talk about ugly American syndrome!) and mobile phones (illegal to use them while driving in Australia.)
Bad for the environment
Bad taste
Bad manners

and of course, bad driving.

Yeah , so far they are the worst. Not 'Mack' truck (truckers) , but the other hogs. Assholes lol.

Doesn't require a jacked up tho. Those butts so far have been driving high powered reg/diesal regular working trucks. Just been my majority of close calls from assholes. Oh yeah, they hate turn signals!

Ironic, cause it's a known a sterotype of women to not use turn signals. Which is bull shit, I rarely see a woman who doesn't.

Out here we don't refer to semi-trucks as "Mack Trucks" generally because Mack isn't that widely used a brand here, Peterbilt largely occupying its space. But no, truckers are generally good drivers, I find.

It's the dudes with the enormous pickups and SUV's that seem to be the assholes. Especially if it's jacked up. There's like no way that the dude's not an asshole if he's driving one of those.

It's a stereotype for women not to use turn signals? Really? In my experience, it's more the opposite.

Out here we don't refer to semi-trucks as "Mack Trucks" generally because Mack isn't that widely used a brand here, Peterbilt largely occupying its space. But no, truckers are generally good drivers, I find.

It's the dudes with the enormous pickups and SUV's that seem to be the assholes. Especially if it's jacked up. There's like no way that the dude's not an asshole if he's driving one of those.

It's a stereotype for women not to use turn signals? Really? In my experience, it's more the opposite.


I agree with the Peterbilt (Reminds me of an old song.. but yeah Peter ... Mack etc all rigs)! That's a truck! .. but anyway

Yeah I've heard men speak of women not using turn signals. It's bullshit.

The issue is SUVs (think of the Earth guys - talk about ugly American syndrome!) and mobile phones (illegal to use them while driving in Australia.)
Bad for the environment
Bad taste
Bad manners

and of course, bad driving.

The issue is not the SUV; it's the driver. Note that I am not attempting to defend SUVs; I'm not really a big fan of them. Blaming a machine for the actions of its operator avoids the real issue; people are careless, and they divide their attention among several activities when they should be paying attention to the road.

My car has exactly zero cupholders, for that, I am thankful.

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My car has exactly zero cupholders, for that, I am thankful.


Is it true that European autos don't naturally come with cup holders etc.?

The industry marketing stuff for SUVs is a fascinating read. SUVs actually appeal to people who perceive themselves as poor drivers and generally lack faith in their own abilities.

Generally they are a prop for the insecure. No doubt this explains all the aggressive driving.

I keep promising myself that one day I am going to go out and buy 98 Brougham or someshit and just get revenge on somebody in a brand new Tahoe. It's be worth it to see their face. (Most SUV drivers also can't really afford their car either).

That's certainly interesting, that they appeal, and are meant to do so, to people who think themselves bad drivers.

Of course, that only adds to how dangerous the roads are for the rest of us.

i've noticed the following:

Minivan drivers are generally incompetent.

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Is it true that European autos don't naturally come with cup holders etc.?

It used to be like that, at least for most German cars. Sadly, pretty much everything has cupholders in it now.

As for people who switch lanes without using their blinkers: Fuck. You. That is the one thing you can do that will completely and totally piss me off. I don't know how many times I have had to swerve and brake to avoid hitting people because they did that, and it's not so easy to avoid accidents when you're in a minivan!

The issue is not the SUV; it's the driver. Note that I am not attempting to defend SUVs; I'm not really a big fan of them. Blaming a machine for the actions of its operator avoids the real issue; people are careless, and they divide their attention among several activities when they should be paying attention to the road.

My car has exactly zero cupholders, for that, I am thankful.

I like having a cupholder for a water bottle on long drives.

Now you can carry your scalding Mc D's coffee =) It is decent coffee. Screw Starbucks. But I'd still get it from 'ma and pa' if possible.

As for people who switch lanes without using their blinkers: Fuck. You. That is the one thing you can do that will completely and totally piss me off. I don't know how many times I have had to swerve and brake to avoid hitting people because they did that, and it's not so easy to avoid accidents when you're in a minivan!

O.M.G. Smurf! <3 "Brainy" lol

and yeah I agree

cept the minivan part

It used to be like that, at least for most German cars. Sadly, pretty much everything has cupholders in it now.

Why is this sad?

I like having a cupholder for a water bottle on long drives.

Yeah, sometimes it's a little incovenient for those few times when I got some fast food and decided to grab a cup of water to take home. It's a little embarrassing to ask for a drink holder for a free cup of water.

I don't do this anymore, since it's more of a nuisance than you might think.

Why is this sad?

Just another potential distraction, in my opinion. Something like a travel mug of coffee isn't a big deal, but some people just go overboard with their gaint sodas and fast food; I've seen all kinds of stupid crap.

Yeah, sometimes it's a little incovenient for those few times when I got some fast food and decided to grab a cup of water to take home. It's a little embarrassing to ask for a drink holder for a free cup of water.

I don't do this anymore, since it's more of a nuisance than you might think.
I see. I don't use the cup holders the vast majority of the time. But for a trip down to so-cal (6-8 hours of driving), a water bottle or a can of soda or something is really really nice to have.



Just another potential distraction, in my opinion. Something like a travel mug of coffee isn't a big deal, but some people just go overboard with their gaint sodas and fast food; I've seen all kinds of stupid crap.

People eating whole meals in their cars is just weird to me. Seems like inviting mess and spills. The most I'll have is a soda and a granola bar/candy bar on a longer trip.

There's all sorts of pricks on the road, no need to pick on one group. Anywhere from stupid ladies who will never learn the basics of driving, to asshats who think they're racers in their riced out civics, to retards in boom cars, to clowns on motorcycles with amplified pipes. In a perfect world, they'd be permanently taken off the road.

There's all sorts of pricks on the road, no need to pick on one group. Anywhere from stupid ladies who will never learn the basics of driving, to asshats who think they're racers in their riced out civics, to retards in boom cars, to clowns on motorcycles with amplified pipes. In a perfect world, they'd be permanently taken off the road.


There'd be nobody driving then.

There's all sorts of pricks on the road, no need to pick on one group. Anywhere from stupid ladies who will never learn the basics of driving, to asshats who think they're racers in their riced out civics, to retards in boom cars, to clowns on motorcycles with amplified pipes. In a perfect world, they'd be permanently taken off the road.


notice you didn't mention men in their trucks.

I'm female I grew up on wheels. My Big Wheel to My Trike, to my Bike, to my Go-Kart, to my Quads, to my 4 Wheeler to my .. well 2 Stroke 4 Wheeler. Was driving a car at 14. Knock on wood.. I've never been in a wreck, and never close on my part.

I have noticed that the very vast majority of people are bad drivers. They develop bad habits over time and then even more people talk or text on their cellular phones while driving. Police around here have started pulling people over for it and giving them warnings... sadly they can't ticket them here.

Maybe people should have to take a standardized driving test every so many years to keep things like this from happening?

Maybe people should have to take a standardized driving test every so many years to keep things like this from happening?

Maybe, but it might not actually work.

Maybe, but it might not actually work.

It will most assuredly keep bad drivers off the road if they fail.

Only if they fail, though. It doesn't exactly take much to pass one of those.

Only if they fail, though. It doesn't exactly take much to pass one of those.

Yeah well.. when you demonstrate your ability to parallel park while going the speed limit in one deft move....

She then pulls up next to me and rolls down her window and starts yelling " WHY ARE YOU GIVING ME THE FINGER AND CUTTING ME OFF!? I HAVE KIDS IN HERE! ".
SUV Soccer Mom syndrome. People who don't like to drive, don't drive well, but are doing it a lot.
It's a very common subconscious belief among them that the right of way always belongs to the bigger vehicle, that having kids means everyone is further obliged to give them right of way, and finally the belief that SUVs are safer for their kids.
Of course, actually they aren't - a SUV suffers less in a crash due to lack of crumple zones, but the occupants suffer more for the same reasons; a great way to kill your kids, since crappy brakes and terrible handling also increase the accident risk, but go explain it to a soccer mom.

This isn't just women, though, another horrible thing is (very) old men in SUVs. While they're less likely to be talking on a cell phone or doing makeup, they also are slower to react per se.



Has anyone else noticed this kinda trend with idiots driving SUVs Well, SUVs are just very appealing to idiots of both sexes. "Moar of a car!", choosing based on looks.


I've always believed we should partially solve the issue by requiring a much more difficult to obtain license for body-on-frame vehicles weighing over 2 tons, or, better, for cars with poor safety ratings for the colliding vehicles and pedestrians. Just something a bit below a CDL, with most of the same requirements - minimum age, mandatory special driving school, renewal tests each 5 years.

Yeah well.. when you demonstrate your ability to parallel park while going the speed limit in one deft move....

I've heard it can be done. Only problem is, you may have to buy new brake pads after.

I've heard it can be done. Only problem is, you may have to buy new brake pads after.

I did it... it was a great way to autofail my driving test :(... it was really funny to see a scared state trooper though.

Perhaps Americans don't have the concept of the 'White Van Man', but .... *shudders*

SUVs have only become a problem in recent years really, especially around schools where parents will be dropping children off and then causing havoc because they can't handle the vehicle properly. Not that I have any sympathy for anyone driving such a ridiculously large vehicle.

notice you didn't mention men in their trucks.


It wasn't an all-inclusive list. I have no problem with trucks, what's wrong with trucks? If it was something like "idiots in big, propped up bozomobiles that drive like raging a-holes", yeah, that was definitely implied.

There'd be nobody driving then.

If everybody or even most people were that bad the roads would be unusable. It's not true.

Perhaps Americans don't have the concept of the 'White Van Man', but .... *shudders*

SUVs have only become a problem in recent years really, especially around schools where parents will be dropping children off and then causing havoc because they can't handle the vehicle properly. Not that I have any sympathy for anyone driving such a ridiculously large vehicle.

That's one thing I could rant about for ages... moms dropping kids off to school in fecking big SUVs.
I take the bus to work every morning. And every morning, the bus has to snake dow a very narrow road trough town, past 2 elementary schools. Now, the road is difficult for the bus anyway, it's two-way but really just about wide enough for 1 lane. Yet every morning the bus gets stuck for up to 15 minutes at a time, because moms dropping the kids off to school park their SUVs on either side of the road, making it completely impassible for anything larger than a bike.
They fecking DRIVE their kids to school. It's an elementary school, and it's in the middle of town. None of those kids come from more than a few streets away. Yet mummy feels the need to inconvenience anybody else having to go through that road, because she's to fucking lazy to walk her brats the 5 meters!!! And when she gets there, she doesn't have to go look for a parking space... oh no. She's a mom, she enriched the world by giving it her spoiled ugly sprogs, she can park in the middle of the road. She has earned that privilege.

:mad::mad::mad:

Tied for worst with women from the Middle East. They dither, they can't make a decision, the waver between timid and aggressive - it's aggravating.

Try women IN the Middle East, at least in Kuwait. As they're not allowed to make eye contact with men, even inadvertently, they don't check their mirrors or blind spots when they change lanes, so when you're driving on the freeway you always give the female drivers a bit of a buffer zone for crazy maneuvering.

I simply respond in the most mature way possible, well mature if you consider she almost killed me. No you didn't. I've been bumped by a car while cycling, and I'll wager that was quite a bit more dangerous than what you just went through, and yet I would not have resorted to the kind of immature namecalling you did had the person driving had the decency to stop and see whether I was ok. She was certainly wrong for having bitched about you honking when she violated traffic rules, but don't for a second believe you were justified in saying the things you did the way you did or that it was in any way mature.

No you didn't. I've been bumped by a car while cycling, and I'll wager that was quite a bit more dangerous than what you just went through, and yet I would not have resorted to the kind of immature namecalling you did had the person driving had the decency to stop and see whether I was ok. She was certainly wrong for having bitched about you honking when she violated traffic rules, but don't for a second believe you were justified in saying the things you did the way you did or that it was in any way mature.

I live in a city, and the more dangerous parts tend to have the most polite drivers. Mainly because it's considered "polite" by those people to put only three bullets through your window in response to you doing something like what that woman did. And this is a concealed carry state, too.

Honestly? I would say he's in the right for responding as he did to her actions.

worst drivers round here tend to be either chav pricks in tiny underpowered cars, with hugely loud exhausts, for some reason, behaving very aggressively, displaying the full range of bad behaviour: tailgating, chopping & changing lanes, racing, cutting you up, wrong lane at roundabout, pulling out in front of you, not letting you merge, etc, etc...

that, or big BMW or Audi drivers who don't give a shit about anyone else. but there seem to be less bad eggs amongst that group.

oh and, yes, using a mobile while driving is illegal over here... and we don't get many SUV's, we have 4x4s instead. they're usually ok, but they are unnecessarily monstrous cars imho

I honestly think that stupid suburban housewife talking on mobile phones should be banned from driving SUVs, and heres why.

Maybe I'm just an ignorant foreigner, but isn't EVERYONE banned from driving ANYTHING when they're using a mobile phone?

Talking on a cell phone while driving is illegal in Connecticut without a hands-free system.

As for people who switch lanes without using their blinkers: Fuck. You. That is the one thing you can do that will completely and totally piss me off. I don't know how many times I have had to swerve and brake to avoid hitting people because they did that, and it's not so easy to avoid accidents when you're in a minivan!

gotta agree with this. the number of times i've seen a very-near accident with two cars, neither of them indicating, move into the middle lane at the same time... :-S

The issue is not the SUV; it's the driver. Note that I am not attempting to defend SUVs; I'm not really a big fan of them. Blaming a machine for the actions of its operator avoids the real issue; people are careless, and they divide their attention among several activities when they should be paying attention to the road.

My car has exactly zero cupholders, for that, I am thankful.

the assumption/implication here is that certain types of people are drawn to certain types of car, and that, by extension, there are often behavioural traits shared between drivers of particular types or makes of car.

of course this can also be total bollocks. i like to stick with my little schema, if only just for fun ;)

worst drivers round here tend to be either chav pricks in tiny underpowered cars, with hugely loud exhausts, for some reason, behaving very aggressively, displaying the full range of bad behaviour: tailgating, chopping & changing lanes, racing, cutting you up, wrong lane at roundabout, pulling out in front of you, not letting you merge, etc, etc...

Normally in a blue Subaru for some reason....

worst drivers round here tend to be either chav pricks in tiny underpowered cars, with hugely loud exhausts, for some reason, behaving very aggressively, displaying the full range of bad behaviour: tailgating, chopping & changing lanes, racing, cutting you up, wrong lane at roundabout, pulling out in front of you, not letting you merge, etc, etc...

that, or big BMW or Audi drivers who don't give a shit about anyone else. but there seem to be less bad eggs amongst that group.

oh and, yes, using a mobile while driving is illegal over here... and we don't get many SUV's, we have 4x4s instead. they're usually ok, but they are unnecessarily monstrous cars imho

QFT...all the above rile me up. The one group who seem to be causing mayhem on the British roads lately are foreign lorry drivers (one killed 6 people in Cumbria last night). It seems we can't check if any foreign driver has the skills needed to drive a 38 tonner road our crappy little roads (and the influx on 'new EEC' countries has not helped)

I have lost count of the times I've seen Polish trucks swerving across the motorways

Maybe I'm just an ignorant foreigner, but isn't EVERYONE banned from driving ANYTHING when they're using a mobile phone?

No, it's only illegal in some states. It's not illegal around here, which I admit that I appreciate and make use of - but only on long, fairly empty stretches of familiar road, and only with people who are well aware that I'll drop the phone without warning if I need to.

I have people of every race, creed, religion, and car type cut me off and worse daily. It's a problem because people are inconsiderate and in a hurry and just don't know how to drive.

Nobody knows how to merge save for freight truck drivers.

Basically we need tighter regulations for getting your driving permit and driver's license. Something along the lines of Germany's system.

Think about it, it would severely cut down the number of idiots on the road, and be good for the environment as well!

Basically we need tighter regulations for getting your driving permit and driver's license. Something along the lines of Germany's system.

Think about it, it would severely cut down the number of idiots on the road, and be good for the environment as well!

The last 4 times I've been in an auto accident I've been hit by someone without insurance and without a driver's license, in fact 3 of those times the people weren't even in my country legally.

The last 4 times I've been in an auto accident I've been hit by someone without insurance and without a driver's license, in fact 3 of those times the people weren't even in my country legally.

Wow, now that is just plain shitty. The only answer I can come up with... "Build a fence!!!"

Wow, now that is just plain shitty. The only answer I can come up with... "Build a fence!!!"

Or just avoid them.

One of these is easier.

worst drivers round here tend to be either chav pricks in tiny underpowered cars, with hugely loud exhausts, for some reason, behaving very aggressively, displaying the full range of bad behaviour: tailgating, chopping & changing lanes, racing, cutting you up, wrong lane at roundabout, pulling out in front of you, not letting you merge, etc, etc...

that, or big BMW or Audi drivers who don't give a shit about anyone else. but there seem to be less bad eggs amongst that group.

oh and, yes, using a mobile while driving is illegal over here... and we don't get many SUV's, we have 4x4s instead. they're usually ok, but they are unnecessarily monstrous cars imho

Heh, Well I drive an 07 SI Civic as a Daily driver, and I once enoucted a dumbass who put all the wheels and body kid and spoiler and all the air dams and fake exahust from an SI on his DX 06. So I'm like " wait....so its not real like mine? "

Byt yeah an SUV is normally a 4x4.

And here in PA theres no law saying you have to use hands free. Though I beleive they are working on getting a law passed. BUt I dont even use hands free, I just turn my phone off.

Not texting back for 30 minutes vs wrecking the 24,000 dollar car? Hmmm.

i'd say the use of combustion to generate energy and propell transportation (whether in the form of suv's, or any other form of rubber tyre on pavement, more massive then a riding electric lawn mower or electric, battery powered bycycle) + today's excessive human population, already = the disaster, (the disaster of a future of starvation and disease) reguardless of what gender, or anything else of humans, drives what.

i'd say the use of combustion to generate energy and propell transportation (whether in the form of suv's, or any other form of rubber tyre on pavement, more massive then a riding electric lawn mower or electric, battery powered bycycle) + today's excessive human population, already = the disaster, (the disaster of a future of starvation and disease) reguardless of what gender, or anything else of humans, drives what.

1) This has what to do with the topic?

2) Got any better solutions than that method?

I'd have to agree with most the posters here, SUV and truck (like an F-150 etc) drivers suck, maybe they're capable of driving, but they can't seem to be assed to try at it (things like signaling, not cutting people off).

Of course I've fucked up my fair share of times, but that was when I was just starting to drive on my own, and I haven't had a close call in quite awhile, as I do pretty well at avoiding the idiots out there. In NY its illegal to use your phone while driving unless you have a hands free system (of course a lot of people still do it). Unfortunately, studies seem to indicate that its being distracted by the call, not the hand being occupied that causes the most trouble.

This is why I got one of these instead of a real car.

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I tell you, I have reached the point at which I will insist that the next car I drive will have the complete James Bond package including missile launchers, flame throwers, machine guns, and mine layers...


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the assumption/implication here is that certain types of people are drawn to certain types of car, and that, by extension, there are often behavioural traits shared between drivers of particular types or makes of car.

of course this can also be total bollocks. i like to stick with my little schema, if only just for fun ;)

But it isn't total bollocks. Car companies spend billions based upon that fact.

There are always exceptions, but in general, certain types of vehicles attract certain types of people. They are designed and marketed that way.

How do you divide an SUV by a Mobile Phone?

Also, how do you add a surbanite woman to the quotient of an SUV divided by a mobile phone?

How do you divide an SUV by a Mobile Phone?

Also, how do you add a surbanite woman to the quotient of an SUV divided by a mobile phone?

Very carefully. If you add them in perfect proportion, you get a fucking disaster.

Men can suck at driving too - i'm living proof. :D

I think that all people should have to graduate from a driving course, judged by professionals, before they can drive on the road. I was in a wreck with a female driver in an SUV, once. She was going down a one way street, the wrong way. She even lived in the town, I didn't, and I knew the road better than she did.
Then she tried to blame it one me. :mad:
It infuriates me that people can be so horribly bad at something so easy.

worst drivers round here tend to be either chav pricks in tiny underpowered cars, with hugely loud exhausts, for some reason, behaving very aggressively, displaying the full range of bad behaviour: tailgating, chopping & changing lanes, racing, cutting you up, wrong lane at roundabout, pulling out in front of you, not letting you merge, etc, etc...

that, or big BMW or Audi drivers who don't give a shit about anyone else. but there seem to be less bad eggs amongst that group.

oh and, yes, using a mobile while driving is illegal over here... and we don't get many SUV's, we have 4x4s instead. they're usually ok, but they are unnecessarily monstrous cars imho
The biggest danger still is that you're all driving on the wrong side. The wrong side, I say! :tongue:

I tell you, I have reached the point at which I will insist that the next car I drive will have the complete James Bond package including missile launchers, flame throwers, machine guns, and mine layers...


I keep looking through the laws when I'm bored, but I've mapped out and partially fabricated a pair of rotating mini-guns to pop out of the hood. Completely fake, of course. I can't find anything against it, and I think it'd solve several problems.

Oh, and working in Malibu, I know the only thing worse than people driving SUVs. People in cars that cost more than $100.000.

There is a correlation between the actual utility of the sport ulility vehicle and the driver's ability.

RWD, bling, tinted windows, subwoofer, rubber band tires, late model: high probability of a Jackass driver

4WD, lifted 8"+, subwoofer, off-road lights, bling: high probability of jackass driver

old, 4WD, lifted, no bling: 50-50 chance of a jackass driver

old 4WD POS beater: low probability of a jackass driver. In fact, this is the guy whois most likely to help you change a flat or jumpstart your car.

at least that's how it is here where I live.

I have to agree with the OP, as much as I hate to. I've seen it too many times in my neighborhood.

And not just suburbanites, but city dwellers as well. They usually all have three things in common: Female, cell phone, SUV or similar vehicle.

I still say my favorite one is a cop pulling one over. He reached in, grabbed her phone, tossed it behind him, and wrote her up. The look on her face as I crushed her phone under my tires while flipping her off was priceless.
Men do it too. I've nearly been run over (as a pedestrian) by men who are either in enormous cars chatting on cellphones or men in sports cars who are driving too fast on small streets revving their engines or yelling at whoever is in a skirt (sometimes it's me and they almost run someone else over) to make up for their tiny penises.

Oh yes, but talking on a cellphone while driving is now illegal here I think... unless that's a bylaw where my parents live.

Out here we don't refer to semi-trucks as "Mack Trucks" generally because Mack isn't that widely used a brand here, Peterbilt largely occupying its space. But no, truckers are generally good drivers, I find.

It's the dudes with the enormous pickups and SUV's that seem to be the assholes. Especially if it's jacked up. There's like no way that the dude's not an asshole if he's driving one of those.

It's a stereotype for women not to use turn signals? Really? In my experience, it's more the opposite.

Hey I have a lifted 2500HD and I drive a nice medium not too aggressive not too passive.

Great control of the vehicle, no accidents in 10 years of driving and no close calls that I could have made better by changing any of my driving habits

Maybe I'm just an ignorant foreigner, but isn't EVERYONE banned from driving ANYTHING when they're using a mobile phone?

Depends on location

I simply refuse to do it regardless of legality, a call can wait till my next scheduled stop

Once you've driven in the Philippines, everything else is a pleasant daydream.

But yes, I've seen the stereotypical woman (OP, notice that "woman" is the singular of "women.") in the giant SUV with the coffee and the phone encroaching on others' space. I've also narrowly survived a ridiculous crash caused by a pudding-headed middle-aged man, so go figure.

Once you've driven in the Philippines, everything else is a pleasant daydream.

Because nothing says "a pleasant drive" like heading up to Baguio in bad weather.