NationStates Jolt Archive


National Novel Writing Month

Smunkeeville
20-10-2008, 18:36
Who is doing it?

If you aren't.....why are you so lazy?
:p

I started a forum for Nationstates Wrimos last year, but it's dead now, I can re-start it if we think we will use it (to keep us from spamming up NSG).
I also started a check-in thread on the NaNo boards....in case you want to do that.

http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/node/3037809

Also, in the social groups of this very forum I've created a NaNoWriMo group.

I have found that the more people you know or have contact with doing NaNo the more success you have.
JuNii
20-10-2008, 18:37
in the User CP, go to social groups. you can create a NaNoWriMo there.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
20-10-2008, 18:38
Who is doing it?

If you aren't.....why are you so lazy?
:p

I started a forum for Nationstates Wrimos last year, but it's dead now, I can re-start it if we think we will use it (to keep us from spamming up NSG).
I also started a check-in thread on the NaNo boards....in case you want to do that.

http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/node/3037809

I've been hearing about the NaNoWriMo on LiveJournal for a year now. I checked it, I thought it was interesting. But I have too much work with my job and my MA combined to even think about writing for my own pleasure. Being a responsible adult sucks balls.:(
Vampire Knight Zero
20-10-2008, 18:38
I've written some fiction... but I lost it all when I got a new PC - forgot to copy it. :(
Iansisle
20-10-2008, 18:39
Hey hey.

I'm going to give it another shot this year. Didn't quite make it halfway last time -- work got in the way. Here's hoping for a less hectic November this time around!
Smunkeeville
20-10-2008, 18:42
in the User CP, go to social groups. you can create a NaNoWriMo there.

:eek: I forgot about that.

*creates Nano group*
JuNii
20-10-2008, 18:42
maybe I can finally finish that fanfic series I've put on hold years ago... :(
Free United States
20-10-2008, 18:43
I actually have two I'm very proud of...I'm thinking of pitching them to Viz (they're more like mangas).

http://www.fictionpress.com/s/2442301/1/Knights_for_Hire

http://www.fictionpress.com/s/2421171/1/Young_Blood
Hobabwe
20-10-2008, 18:44
I'm writing a novel, but my inspiration comes and goes, some days i write 2-3 chapters, then nothing for months at a time.
Besides, i'm dutch :)
Nanatsu no Tsuki
20-10-2008, 18:45
maybe I can finally finish that fanfic series I've put on hold years ago... :(

Speaking of that, I started writing some fanfic about Kouga Yun's Loveless. I thought I was doing fine, then I hit the wall. I don't know how to proceed. :(
Pirated Corsairs
20-10-2008, 18:47
I'm Debeo Scribere on NaNoWriMo... this'll be my first one. I met with other local participants for a meet and greet yesterday, and we're planning on doing a weekly write-in, plus the occasional other event. Hopefully the frequent write-ins will keep me on track!:)
Thede
20-10-2008, 18:48
I tried it last year, but was unable to finish it due to November being a very transitional period for me. I'd love to do it this year, but frankly, I think my time is better spent finishing my screenplays in progress than switching mediums at this point. But I fully support NaNoWriMo, and I highly recommend Chris Baty's very entertaining, helpful book, "No Plot? No Problem!" If you haven't already, pick up a copy; it's pretty cheap.
JuNii
20-10-2008, 18:49
Speaking of that, I started writing some fanfic about Kouga Yun's Loveless. I thought I was doing fine, then I hit the wall. I don't know how to proceed. :(

maybe we can help. what's the wall? TG us if you don't want to post here.

I just got mired down with my Charmed/Catseye crossover series...
Nanatsu no Tsuki
20-10-2008, 18:52
maybe we can help. what's the wall? TG us if you don't want to post here.

I just got mired down with my Charmed/Catseye crossover series...

Mainly Loveless is an ongoing series. There hasn't been a conclusion so, even if I incorporate my own take on the ongoing action, with original characters and all, I don't know to which direction I must take my fic. The author also stopped writing for a few months. She makes me angry!:mad:
Saige Dragon
20-10-2008, 18:57
I'm terrible at writing fiction. <- See writers block there, right there. I don't know how to continue with that. Just leave it? It's just a couple of words, and Hell, they don't even contribute to the topic at hand. How does that justify a reply to this thread?
Call to power
20-10-2008, 19:03
I would but my English is terrible :)
The Romulan Republic
20-10-2008, 19:13
I write stuff all the time, but I rarely finish anything.

Right now I'm thinking of writing a science fiction/war novel about a three way world war between genetically modified humans, "normal" humans, and AIs.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
20-10-2008, 19:18
I would but my English is terrible :)

But, but, but... isn't English your first language?:confused:
Kamsaki-Myu
20-10-2008, 19:21
Speaking of that, I started writing some fanfic about Kouga Yun's Loveless. I thought I was doing fine, then I hit the wall. I don't know how to proceed. :(
Hate it when that happens. Planning things out well in advance can help with that, but then you have the problem of getting half-way through and realising you didn't like your initial plan, but that changing it means screwing with the earlier foreshadowing and imagery that you've already spent hours writing... :rolleyes:

Oh, and I'm on. First NNWM I've attempted. Got a plan, got the drive and got the time, so good to go!
Nanatsu no Tsuki
20-10-2008, 19:24
Hate it when that happens. Planning things out well in advance can help with that, but then you have the problem of getting half-way through and realising you didn't like your initial plan, but that changing it means screwing with the earlier foreshadowing and imagery that you've already spent hours writing... :rolleyes:

Yes, that usually sucks. I think that's the main reason why I stick with just writing poetry and short stories (when the inspiration for those hit). Trying to write a novel takes too much time and I don't think I have what it takes to pull it through. At least not at this moment in my life. :p

Oh, and I'm on. First NNWM I've attempted. Got a plan, got the drive and got the time, so good to go!

I som wanted to give it a go this year.:( Next year, I guess.:D
South Lorenya
20-10-2008, 19:25
The average novel is something like 10% plot and 90% filler* (the filler being descriptions and such). Atma is very bad at filler.

So instead of 30 pages of plot and 270 pages of filler I'd be able to get 60 pages of plot but only 30 pages of filler, and nobody wants a book that's only 90 pages!


*This is an Atma-made estimate. Please don't accept it as verified fact, email it out as a chain letter, get it tattooed onto your forehead, or sneak into Egypt and carve it onto each stone of the great pyramids.
Smunkeeville
20-10-2008, 19:36
Yes, that usually sucks. I think that's the main reason why I stick with just writing poetry and short stories (when the inspiration for those hit). Trying to write a novel takes too much time and I don't think I have what it takes to pull it through. At least not at this moment in my life. :p
NaNo isn't about writing a great book.......it's about writing 50K words in 30 days. It all might be useless.......but maybe, just maybe, some of it will be awesome.....or not.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
20-10-2008, 19:38
NaNo isn't about writing a great book.......it's about writing 50K words in 30 days. It all might be useless.......but maybe, just maybe, some of it will be awesome.....or not.

Oh, I know that. The problem is I just don't have the time to even do that right now.
JuNii
20-10-2008, 19:42
Mainly Loveless is an ongoing series. There hasn't been a conclusion so, even if I incorporate my own take on the ongoing action, with original characters and all, I don't know to which direction I must take my fic. The author also stopped writing for a few months. She makes me angry!:mad:

my suggestion? if you know the characters and their personality. just write. let the character's lead you. you might find yourself writing a different plotline than what you originally planned. ;)
Call to power
20-10-2008, 20:04
But, but, but... isn't English your first language?:confused:

I will have you know that my first language is working class :tongue:

NaNo isn't about writing a great book.......it's about writing 50K words in 30 days. It all might be useless.......but maybe, just maybe, some of it will be awesome.....or not.

dammit I can't even write trash that quickly!
Farflorin
20-10-2008, 20:35
I did it last year and I finished it as well, but this year I can't due to school. Sure it's slacker week but I've got to go to court. Three days. Blah.
Sdaeriji
20-10-2008, 20:37
I've had my arm twisted into doing it.
Muravyets
20-10-2008, 21:08
50K words in 30 days? Sounds like a great challenge. Wish I had 30 days to spare. It's fall/winter art show season... I'm too busy even to make money.

But I just started a new novel project. I'm using the snowflake method (among other tricks) that I learned from you, Smunkee -- and which I love, btw.

I hope to actually finish this one, thanks to you.
Sarzonia
20-10-2008, 21:19
I'm insanely busy. Otherwise, I might sit down and write a novel.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
20-10-2008, 23:58
I will have you know that my first language is working class :tongue:

O rly? You must write me a little story using Working Class then. I like new languages!!:tongue:
Call to power
21-10-2008, 00:19
O rly? You must write me a little story using Working Class then. I like new languages!!:tongue:

oooh lets hope the grammar police don't find me with such seditious material :$
Dumb Ideologies
21-10-2008, 00:30
The only stuff I've ever written is shockingly poor fan fiction. If I wrote something that long, I'd probably re-read and then have to remove myself from the genepool to conform with the laws of natural selection :p
Zainzibar Land
21-10-2008, 00:32
I'm a poet, working on a collection of poems.
Would that count asa novel?
I'll post some of my poems if you want
JuNii
21-10-2008, 00:34
The only stuff I've ever written is shockingly poor fan fiction. If I wrote something that long, I'd probably re-read and then have to remove myself from the genepool to conform with the laws of natural selection :p

it can't be that bad. I read some really, REALLY bad fan fic.
New Genoa
21-10-2008, 04:12
it can't be that bad. I read some really, REALLY bad fan fic.

DOOM: Repercussions of Evil

John Stalvern waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were demons in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Cernel Joson were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
John was a space marine for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the spaceships and he said to dad "I want to be on the ships daddy."
Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS"
There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the space station base of the UAC he knew there were demons.
"This is Joson" the radio crackered. "You must fight the demons!"
So John gotted his palsma rifle and blew up the wall.
"HE GOING TO KILL US" said the demons
"I will shoot at him" said the cyberdemon and he fired the rocket missiles. John plasmaed at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.
"No! I must kill the demons" he shouted
The radio said "No, John. You are the demons"
And then John was a zombie.

.....
Soheran
21-10-2008, 04:13
it can't be that bad. I read some really, REALLY bad fan fic.

But there is also some incredibly good fan fiction. It's amazing how good free writing can be.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
21-10-2008, 04:32
.....
All books should end with, "And then <protagonist name> was a zombie."
For example, here is Northanger Abbey with the original last line replaced:

"On the strength of this, the General, soon after Eleanor's marriage, permitted his son to return to Northanger, and thence made him the bearer of his consent, very courteously worded in a page full of empty professions to Mr. Morland. The event in which it authorized soon followed: Henry and Catherine were married, the bells rang, and every body smiled; and, as this took place within a twelvemonth from the first day of their meeting, it will not appear, after all the dreadful delays occasioned by the General's cruelty, that they were essentially hurt by it.
And then Catherine Morland was a zombie."

Or what about Aharon Appelfeld's classic For Every Sin:

"Theo gulped down mug after mug. The hot liquid seeped into him and filled with warmth. Fatigue and helplessness assailed him. He placed his head on a bundle, curled up as if after a big quarrel, a desperate quarrel, closed his eyes, and collapsed.
And then Theo was a zombie."
Smunkeeville
21-10-2008, 04:48
it can't be that bad. I read some really, REALLY bad fan fic.

You said you liked it. *runs away sobbing*
Dakini
21-10-2008, 05:11
If "national" = US then I clearly shouldn't feel obliged to do this...


...but if I didn't have a thesis to write then I would give it a shot. Start a new thread next year when it happens again, please. :)

Although I suck at "novels" short stories I can do... even if they end up being porn.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
21-10-2008, 14:00
oooh lets hope the grammar police don't find me with such seditious material :$

Em... news flash! Show me Working Class... or else.:eek2:
Luna Amore
21-10-2008, 14:18
Absolutely! For once I have free time in November.
Ashmoria
21-10-2008, 14:41
50K words in 30 days? Sounds like a great challenge. Wish I had 30 days to spare. It's fall/winter art show season... I'm too busy even to make money.

But I just started a new novel project. I'm using the snowflake method (among other tricks) that I learned from you, Smunkee -- and which I love, btw.

I hope to actually finish this one, thanks to you.
wait a minute...

what is the snowflake method?
Muravyets
21-10-2008, 15:53
wait a minute...

what is the snowflake method?
http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/art/snowflake.php

It's pretty amazingly helpful for organizing one's thoughts and work.
Smunkeeville
21-10-2008, 16:31
http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/art/snowflake.php

It's pretty amazingly helpful for organizing one's thoughts and work.

I teach it in all my creative writing classes, the kids are like "wow, this is kinda neat" and the adult classes are like "whoa! why didn't anyone teach me this while I was in school?!"

haha.
Ashmoria
21-10-2008, 16:32
thanks!

and thanks to smunkee for telling you about it.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
21-10-2008, 16:59
http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/art/snowflake.php

It's pretty amazingly helpful for organizing one's thoughts and work.

That is actually neat! Thanks to both Smunkee and Muravyets for linking to the method.:)
The Brevious
22-10-2008, 06:08
All books should end with, "And then <protagonist name> was a zombie."
For example, here is Northanger Abbey with the original last line replaced:

"On the strength of this, the General, soon after Eleanor's marriage, permitted his son to return to Northanger, and thence made him the bearer of his consent, very courteously worded in a page full of empty professions to Mr. Morland. The event in which it authorized soon followed: Henry and Catherine were married, the bells rang, and every body smiled; and, as this took place within a twelvemonth from the first day of their meeting, it will not appear, after all the dreadful delays occasioned by the General's cruelty, that they were essentially hurt by it.
And then Catherine Morland was a zombie."

Or what about Aharon Appelfeld's classic For Every Sin:

"Theo gulped down mug after mug. The hot liquid seeped into him and filled with warmth. Fatigue and helplessness assailed him. He placed his head on a bundle, curled up as if after a big quarrel, a desperate quarrel, closed his eyes, and collapsed.
And then Theo was a zombie."
:hail:
:fluffle:

I knew there was still some classic Fiddleysticks in there someawheres.
Tygereyes
22-10-2008, 07:15
Haven't really joined up in doing it, been too busy in school.

Plus ironically, I am trying to polish up a story for my creative writing class.
Cannot think of a name
22-10-2008, 07:20
Here's how I feel about NaNoRimo or however that's spelled. And this has probably already been said-

It's just like every other month where I don't write a book, except now I get to feel bad about it.
SoWiBi
22-10-2008, 15:30
Thanks for reminding me I still had a bunch of posters to hang up in the uni corridors.
JuNii
23-10-2008, 07:06
You said you liked it. *runs away sobbing*
Smunkee... some of the ones I've read make mine (the one I sent you a long time ago) look like the Great American Novel! :tongue:
SoWiBi
01-11-2008, 19:00
Well.. it's November 1st, at least around here it is. I'm at 1.311 words so far and not done writing for today yet. How are you all starting off?
JuNii
02-11-2008, 19:41
Well.. it's November 1st, at least around here it is. I'm at 1.311 words so far and not done writing for today yet. How are you all starting off?

What?!?!

it's November already?!?! :eek:
Soheran
02-11-2008, 19:49
Well.. it's November 1st, at least around here it is. I'm at 1.311 words so far and not done writing for today yet. How are you all starting off?

Managed 2683 yesterday. Haven't done anything today yet.
Dyakovo
02-11-2008, 19:50
Who is doing it?
Not me
If you aren't.....why are you so lazy?
Laziness has nothing to do with it
Pirated Corsairs
02-11-2008, 20:00
So far, I'm at 2,460. I have an essay to write for a class, but I should be able to get another hour or two in today and hopefully hit 4,000 or so.
SoWiBi
02-11-2008, 20:02
What?!?!

it's November already?!?! :eek:

It sure is, and today's the second day, 8 p.m. local time for me, and I have yet to write a single word. Will change that in a bit, hopefully.
Jaynova
02-11-2008, 20:11
Yesterday, I worte 2480 or so words. nothing today, yet.

on the NaNoWriMo page, I'm also jaynova, if anyone wants to be my "buddy".
Muravyets
02-11-2008, 22:59
I'm not doing it because I'm busy prepping for an art event -- and also too busy working on a novel already in progress. :D

But I think I might give myself the 50k words in 30 days challenge in January or February. Maybe I'll take the Special K lose 6 pounds challenge and the Cheerios lower your cholesterol challenge at the same time.
Ssek
03-11-2008, 02:52
So I decided to finally do this for real. Didn't start writing til just now though.

Now I actually have 1,411 words and it's quite exhilerating to keep slamming down my tendency to self-edit as, or even before, I go and just pound out the text.

But I'm finding the website very slow and unreliable. What's up with that?
Soheran
03-11-2008, 02:55
But I'm finding the website very slow and unreliable. What's up with that?

High traffic, I think. It was fine up until Nov. 1.
Pirated Corsairs
03-11-2008, 03:13
High traffic, I think. It was fine up until Nov. 1.

Yeah, that's what I assumed. A bit annoying, as I've been trying to update my word count.

(4173! That's 839 ahead of being "on track" to make 50,000 by the end. And I might write more still later on tonight! :D)
Soheran
03-11-2008, 03:15
(4173! That's 839 ahead of being "on track" to make 50,000 by the end. And I might write more still later on tonight! :D)

Good for you. I was aiming for 6,000 this weekend; it looks like I'll be more than 2,000 short.

I still have a few hours, I guess....
Sirmomo1
03-11-2008, 03:17
Here's how I feel about NaNoRimo or however that's spelled. And this has probably already been said-

It's just like every other month where I don't write a book, except now I get to feel bad about it.

Think of all the useless people that have books. Paris Hilton, Gene Simmons and his history of prostitution, Kerry Katona, Katie Price, Goldberg. They all have books. We don't have books. I can't believe Gene Simmons is outclassing me in terms of literary output.
Nixxelvania
03-11-2008, 03:23
I was thinking of writing a novel about life in college and high school; and all the problems you face going through. ie. drugs, bullying, procrastination, rules, purpose, etc.
I would be basing it on my own life, as I dont really have anything else to write about...
would anyone here read a novel like this?
Sirmomo1
03-11-2008, 03:25
I was thinking of writing a novel about life in college and high school; and all the problems you face going through. ie. drugs, bullying, procrastination, rules, purpose, etc.
I would be basing it on my own life, as I dont really have anything else to write about...
would anyone here read a novel like this?

It depends. Were you procrastinating because you were struggling to motivate yourself to obey the rules that compelled you to bully drug takers who abused substances because they couldn't cope with how purposeful their lives were?
Nixxelvania
03-11-2008, 03:27
no, more like memoir, but fictional
Nixxelvania
03-11-2008, 03:29
I hated high school, and i'm having problems (self-imposed) in college as well. I just figured other people would want to read about someone that's experiencing the same (or some of the same) things
Sirmomo1
03-11-2008, 03:36
I hated high school, and i'm having problems (self-imposed) in college as well. I just figured other people would want to read about someone that's experiencing the same (or some of the same) things

I think you should spice it up a little. Let's say the star of your novel is a kid who hates high school but instead of his or her issues just being the usual stuff about being ugly and unpopular and lacking confidence he or she also has to contend with the problems that come with turning from high school student by day to the Iberian Peninsula by night. AND NO ONE MUST EVER FIND OUT!
Soheran
03-11-2008, 03:38
he or she also has to contend with the problems that come with turning from high school student by day to the Iberian Peninsula by night.

Turning into the Iberian Peninsula?
Sirmomo1
03-11-2008, 03:43
Turning into the Iberian Peninsula?

Absolutely. Which is tough enough on its own. But contending with your right foot now being Lisbon at the same time as trying to fit in at school? That's the kind of situation that makes great literature.
Babelistan
03-11-2008, 03:46
I'm doing it for the first time.
Rejistania
03-11-2008, 14:31
I am currently at 8440 words of my Sci-Fi. I used the name Anfaenger as username on NaNo. You can friend my via: http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/user/413239 If you just want to read what I have so far, TG me. But be aware that I am writing in German.
Tsrill
03-11-2008, 14:39
Who is doing it?

If you aren't.....why are you so lazy?

No time. But I already participated 5 times, and won 4 of them, so I think I have an excuse...
Conserative Morality
03-11-2008, 14:41
I'm more suited to short stories. If I work on anything for more then a few days, I get bored with it.
Rejistania
03-11-2008, 15:22
I think you should spice it up a little. Let's say the star of your novel is a kid who hates high school but instead of his or her issues just being the usual stuff about being ugly and unpopular and lacking confidence he or she also has to contend with the problems that come with turning from high school student by day to the Iberian Peninsula by night. AND NO ONE MUST EVER FIND OUT!
*roflmao* *roflpimp* I'd so read that!
SoWiBi
05-11-2008, 20:17
Folks, let's not let this thread die. I just hopped over to the NaNo thread, the one linked to in the OP, and was glad to see mine was not the last post anymore.

Keep on writing! (Here, and with our NaNos)
TJHairball
05-11-2008, 21:09
Oh, ffs...

... November is such a terrible month for me.
Ssek
05-11-2008, 21:30
I'm more suited to short stories. If I work on anything for more then a few days, I get bored with it.

You could write a series of short stories and give them chapter names instead of individual titles.
Smunkeeville
05-11-2008, 22:23
I threw out novel one, began novel two with no plot........so far my MC is very annoying and she has lost her notebook and is very worried about someone finding it......

I wonder what's in it?

Anyone know?
Sirmomo1
05-11-2008, 22:25
The IBERIAN PENINSULA
Ssek
05-11-2008, 22:25
I threw out novel one, began novel two with no plot........so far my MC is very annoying and she has lost her notebook and is very worried about someone finding it......

I wonder what's in it?

Anyone know?

a treasure map?

a sex diary?

a sex treasure map?
JuNii
05-11-2008, 23:11
I threw out novel one, began novel two with no plot........so far my MC is very annoying and she has lost her notebook and is very worried about someone finding it......

I wonder what's in it?

Anyone know?

Hmmm...

a split personality perhaps? and the notebook contains writings from her other self that could destroy her life as she knows it?

She uncovered a conspiracy and it's contained in her notebook?

Details of a crime that would put her in the focus/spotlight if it came out?


btw I'm at 9000 words!
Redwulf
05-11-2008, 23:41
http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/art/snowflake.php

It's pretty amazingly helpful for organizing one's thoughts and work.

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Anyone got info on this that I can access?
Redwulf
05-11-2008, 23:43
As to why I'm not participating in Nanowritmo, I'm already too lazy to update the serialized novel in my sig. Adding more writing I won't finish isn't going to help.
Pirated Corsairs
06-11-2008, 00:29
7809 words so far, and I plan on having a decent writing session before going to bed. I might end up slightly behind schedule tonight, but I'll be able to write a lot on the weekend, so I can easily make it up then.
Luna Amore
06-11-2008, 01:31
Is anyone else starting their Nano late because of this damn election?
Smunkeeville
06-11-2008, 05:39
Anyone got info on this that I can access?

The site is down, basically you begin by describing your novel in about 20 words.

"An anxious girl loses her notebook at a train station, what happens next changes her life forever"

Then a slightly longer description.....and blah blah blah, until you (don't remember if this is the method or just what I do now) do each chapter/event this way.

Chapter 1
"An anxious girl wakes up on a train she doesn't remember boarding"
Redwulf
06-11-2008, 06:16
The site is down, basically you begin by describing your novel in about 20 words.

"An anxious girl loses her notebook at a train station, what happens next changes her life forever"

Then a slightly longer description.....and blah blah blah, until you (don't remember if this is the method or just what I do now) do each chapter/event this way.

Chapter 1
"An anxious girl wakes up on a train she doesn't remember boarding"

Sounds close to what I already do, I just lack good follow through. On my current project I got a little stuck because I'm trying to convert it from a graphic novel that I couldn't find an artist for to a novel of the non-graphic sort and I'm having trouble describing some of the Sci-fi tech in words the characters would use. Specifically a car that I described in the scrips as looking "like something a futuristic Tony Soprano might drive".
Ssek
06-11-2008, 06:21
The site is down,

Bah, no static site like that is ever really down, thanks to the magic of the intarweb archive! (http://web.archive.org/web/20071023172408/http://www.advancedfictionwriting.com/art/snowflake.php)

Great little article, by the way. Thanks for sharing.
Rejistania
06-11-2008, 09:40
Anyone adding a NaNoWriMo reference into their novel? I just did: One of the protagonists found a thread like this one. ;)
SoWiBi
06-11-2008, 10:44
Anyone adding a NaNoWriMo reference into their novel? I just did: One of the protagonists found a thread like this one. ;)

Absolutely. I'm a fan of all things "meta". I'm currently tossing around the idea of introducing a thought about whether or not to talk about NaNo in a NaNo in my NaNo soon - the more "meta", the better :)
Smunkeeville
06-11-2008, 15:18
Sounds close to what I already do, I just lack good follow through. On my current project I got a little stuck because I'm trying to convert it from a graphic novel that I couldn't find an artist for to a novel of the non-graphic sort and I'm having trouble describing some of the Sci-fi tech in words the characters would use. Specifically a car that I described in the scrips as looking "like something a futuristic Tony Soprano might drive".

*cringe* you gotta remedy that. I don't even know what Tony Soprano might drive now, much less in the future. What does it look like?

You might try reading the book "How NOT to write a novel" it could be helpful. It's really helped me a lot when I was stuck on a project or worse when editing something that I wrote in NaNo and went back to read and was like "holy hell this is horrible!"

November is just for words though, no editing. Although if you are participating, I would go back and fix something like that, it could up your word count and help your novel along.
Redwulf
06-11-2008, 18:42
*cringe* you gotta remedy that. I don't even know what Tony Soprano might drive now, much less in the future. What does it look like?

Yeah, that was never intended for anyone but the artist drawing the car to see. I figured that even if they didn't watch the Sopranos they'd be familiar with the character concept. It doesn't help that the character who will have to describe it (and never would have had to when the car was supposed to be drawn) is a real car guy, someone who can build a car from the ground up, which I'm not.

November is just for words though, no editing. Although if you are participating, I would go back and fix something like that, it could up your word count and help your novel along.

The problem is it's going directly up onto the blog I linked to in my sig. It doesn't have to be perfect but it has to be better than THAT before I put it up.
Pirated Corsairs
06-11-2008, 19:28
Is anyone else starting their Nano late because of this damn election?
No, but on election day I only got about two or three hundred words in, which is why I have to catch up now.


Yeah, that was never intended for anyone but the artist drawing the car to see. I figured that even if they didn't watch the Sopranos they'd be familiar with the character concept. It doesn't help that the character who will have to describe it (and never would have had to when the car was supposed to be drawn) is a real car guy, someone who can build a car from the ground up, which I'm not.


I don't know the context he'll need to be describing it in, but perhaps you could have him explain it to somebody more or less like you, so, whatever description you eventually settle with, it can still be "dumbed down" for their benefit?
JuNii
06-11-2008, 19:34
Sounds close to what I already do, I just lack good follow through. On my current project I got a little stuck because I'm trying to convert it from a graphic novel that I couldn't find an artist for to a novel of the non-graphic sort and I'm having trouble describing some of the Sci-fi tech in words the characters would use. Specifically a car that I described in the scrips as looking "like something a futuristic Tony Soprano might drive".

Screw the tech words. make em up if you wish.

hmm... still describe it. say...
"a Sedan with execllent shocks (or anit-grave units) engine power and a nice little plasma emitter hidden behind the headlights. tho he didn't quite like the extra armor plating since it affected the handling..."
TJHairball
06-11-2008, 20:39
OK, so it's official:

I am re-hashing Romeo and Juliet. Starting with an introduction that is perfectly irrelevant except to say that I'm re-hashing Romeo and Juliet and to go all avant-garde-theatery on your tuckuses.
Ascelonia
06-11-2008, 21:30
Can someone help me with the idea of a Vampire and a Vampire Hunter falling in love?

Oh yeah... I added in a huge vampire versus human war to complicate things further.
Pirated Corsairs
06-11-2008, 21:45
Can someone help me with the idea of a Vampire and a Vampire Hunter falling in love?

Oh yeah... I added in a huge vampire versus human war to complicate things further.

http://www.philjohn.com/img/shows/buffy_angel1.jpg

or

http://www.riutort.se/bilder/buffyspik.jpg

?

:D
Ascelonia
06-11-2008, 21:54
Shit... I forgot about Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I hated the show... lol
JuNii
06-11-2008, 22:15
Can someone help me with the idea of a Vampire and a Vampire Hunter falling in love?

Oh yeah... I added in a huge vampire versus human war to complicate things further.

ok...
Time period:
is this modern day, Futuristic, historical

World:
is this Earth, Fantasy or out in deep space?
Ascelonia
06-11-2008, 22:17
modern day.

Earth.

Their supposed to go on an adventure around the world... kinda and get to see the events of the war unfold.
JuNii
06-11-2008, 23:13
you can do the "four factions" kinda thing.

1) Vampires who want to use humans as cattle
2) Vampires who want to live with humans as friends
3) Humans who want to exterminate all vampires
4) Humans who want to perpetuate the war to gain political/financial/technolgical/religous power.

and work from there.
Smunkeeville
06-11-2008, 23:20
Apparently my MC is a sociopath and is manipulating people and blackmailing them and killed a few people and some kind of evidence is in her notebook.
JuNii
06-11-2008, 23:23
Apparently my MC is a sociopath and is manipulating people and blackmailing them and killed a few people and some kind of evidence is in her notebook.

... and they start hunting her down? blackmailing her?
Smunkeeville
06-11-2008, 23:30
... and they start hunting her down? blackmailing her?

don't know yet. :p:p
SoWiBi
07-11-2008, 20:14
"Current word count: 11879 (23.76 %) with 24 days left, with current pace, expected to finish in 24 days"

Now that' nice to hear.

Though I'm heartbroken to see my total wordcount in red, even though I've been above the [number of days times 1,667] wordcount for two consecutive days. What's u with that?
Ascelonia
07-11-2008, 22:26
you can do the "four factions" kinda thing.

1) Vampires who want to use humans as cattle
2) Vampires who want to live with humans as friends
3) Humans who want to exterminate all vampires
4) Humans who want to perpetuate the war to gain political/financial/technolgical/religous power.

and work from there.

Yeah... I kind of figured that. The government is very divided, but there's a secret World Government representing humans and there's also a secret world government representing zombies. The human world government is supposed to surpress evidence of the existence of vampires.

I'm trying to work out more kinks in the plot.
JuNii
07-11-2008, 22:37
Yeah... I kind of figured that. The government is very divided, but there's a secret World Government representing humans and there's also a secret world government representing zombies. The human world government is supposed to surpress evidence of the existence of vampires.

I'm trying to work out more kinks in the plot.

ah...

well, we could probably come up with suggestions if we knew where and what the kinks are.
SoWiBi
08-11-2008, 11:51
I'm trying to work out more kinks in the plot.

Will you have a closeted vampire in the ultra-right anti-vampire party of the Human Government?
Ascelonia
08-11-2008, 22:01
Will you have a closeted vampire in the ultra-right anti-vampire party of the Human Government?

It's kinda complicated to tell who's who, because most humans can't tell the difference between vampires and humans. Vampires are very charming, intelligent, and beautiful because they have evolved into more cunning predators over time. They have adapted toward luring humans into traps and stuff. Vampires intermingle with humans at their leisure. They are born with empathetic abilities that come extremely close to mind-reading. So vampires often have fun messing with the minds of humans. There are human ultra-right, anti-vampire groups, but vampires can easily manipulate or dismantle them.

Vampires are often at odds with the environmentalist and animal rights' movement because there are lots of vampires who drink animal blood. Vampires have infiltrated every level of human governments.

Werewolves are less numerous and form the marginalized part of society.
JuNii
08-11-2008, 22:19
It's kinda complicated to tell who's who, because most humans can't tell the difference between vampires and humans. Vampires are very charming, intelligent, and beautiful because they have evolved into more cunning predators over time. They have adapted toward luring humans into traps and stuff.

Vampires are often at odds with the environmentalist and animal rights' movement because there are lots of vampires who drink animal blood. Vampires have infiltrated every level of human governments.

Werewolves are less numerous and form the marginalized part of society.
but Vamps still go 'Poof' in sunlight right?

Interesting that Environmentalists and Animal rights people would be against a Vampire's feeding off of animals... I mean Slaughter houses would love those vamps to get rid of that aspect of animal leftovers... Animal Shelters could also donate to those vampires the animals they would normally euthanise..

Now I'm kinda interested in your story... any chance to send it to me when you're done?
Ascelonia
08-11-2008, 22:35
but Vamps still go 'Poof' in sunlight right?

Interesting that Environmentalists and Animal rights people would be against a Vampire's feeding off of animals... I mean Slaughter houses would love those vamps to get rid of that aspect of animal leftovers... Animal Shelters could also donate to those vampires the animals they would normally euthanise..

Now I'm kinda interested in your story... any chance to send it to me when you're done?

Not even close at the moment. It's poorly written, on my part, and from the perspective a male teenager.

I haven't gotten to adding a lot of the plot elements into the story. I'm kind of skipping around and writing different parts at different times.

Well, vampires in the story are extra sensitive to ultraviolet light. Most vampires would get sunburns or spontaneously combust in the sunlight due to the nature of the chemical composition of their skin, but there are lots of ancient remedies, modern lotions, and medicines to fix this.
Pirated Corsairs
09-11-2008, 23:54
Just to keep this thread alive:

I went to a write in today, wrote a good 3500 words, and now I'm up to 17097! :)

EDIT:
I'm still there, but I don't think I'll be doing too much more here.
Ascelonia
10-11-2008, 01:30
dang it... I'm stuck at 3080 words. lol
Ascelonia
10-11-2008, 04:01
5100 words! OMG! I never knew I was a writer!
Ssek
10-11-2008, 05:06
Yeah, I'm gonna start over. These first 1000 words limit the entire rest of everything and I don't like even the genre choice. Luckily I'm not far behind, because of my superhuman last-minute stamina.
Rejistania
10-11-2008, 14:07
Yay! 27k words in total! I rock! (Well, my characters do :) )
Pirated Corsairs
10-11-2008, 14:22
Yay! 27k words in total! I rock! (Well, my characters do :) )

Impressive! Don't try to pass all the credit to your characters, 27k by now is really good. :)
Rejistania
10-11-2008, 16:16
Impressive! Don't try to pass all the credit to your characters, 27k by now is really good. :)

Compared to the people, I saw on the NaNoWriMo forums (where I procrastinate too much), I felt that it was low...
JuNii
10-11-2008, 18:55
just broke the 10K mark. but expect to finish when I go on Vacation and can really write.
Ssek
11-11-2008, 21:03
OK, I'm about to break the positive integers mark!

After deciding to restart (not exactly losing much there) I have now just 19 days to write it. But I think Write Or Die (http://lab.drwicked.com/writeordie.html) will help me a great deal. I'm writing (will be writing!) fantasy in which there is brutal and strict enforcement of laws and a general pervading sense of evil and oppression. So anything like Write Or Die that actually helps instill this sense in me while I'm writing will help. Kind of like method acting.
Rejistania
12-11-2008, 09:04
OK, I'm about to break the positive integers mark!


16 bit signed? 16 bit unsigned? 32 bit signed? Or 32 bit unsigned? ;)
SoWiBi
12-11-2008, 16:34
But I think Write Or Die (http://lab.drwicked.com/writeordie.html) will help me a great deal.

This is absolutely awesome. Thanks for linking!
Ascelonia
12-11-2008, 23:10
I'm scrapping my original story, bringing me back to the drawing board. I thought the vampire thing is a dead end.
Rejistania
22-11-2008, 15:12
Sorry for gravedigging, but I HAVE WON! Atm, I have 50376 words! :)
SoWiBi
22-11-2008, 16:34
Sorry for gravedigging, but I HAVE WON! Atm, I have 50376 words! :)

Don't apologize; it's awesome you brought the thread back!

Oh, and CONGRATS for winning! You're our hero :]
Smunkeeville
22-11-2008, 18:51
I'm at 56K and the story is not done.........stoopid story.

I finished it on like the 17th, writing on the plane on the 16th really helped and then I finished it sitting in a Starbucks. (finished, meaning the 50K, the story may never end.)
Rejistania
22-11-2008, 20:06
Smunkee, tell me about your story, you keep making me interested and have nothing in your profile. :(

(I am also not finished with the story yet)
Muravyets
23-11-2008, 16:40
I've decided to give myself the challenge in December. I have a story I want to write -- swashbuckling fantasy adventure. My creative calendar will be empty after this weekend -- no other deadlines looming. I'll get all the mental prep done this week, and be ready to start typing on Dec 1. With luck, draft 1 by the new year. Oh, and that Write or Die thing looks great. Thanks for posting that. :D

EDIT: Random advice question that isn't really vital, but it's the one thing that's bugging me: Should this December project be the novelette that I promised to some people who run an MMORPG I used to play, for which there is no deadline but they've been waiting a long time, or should I make it be draft 1 of the full novel I really want to write, which has been distracting me from the story I promised those other people?

I'm leaning towards banging out draft 1 of the full novel in December, getting it out of my system, and then finishing the MMO story in January, but my inner guilt-monger is yelling at me for putting my self-interest ahead of my promises to others. Of course, that guilt-monger has proven itself just an enabler for my procrastination demon...

Anyone want to encourage my self-interest inner angel in the interest of actually finishing something?
Valentasia
23-11-2008, 16:47
I quit my job last week to free up more time to finish my novel. It's shaping up to be a literary masterpiece.
Ashmoria
23-11-2008, 16:50
I've decided to give myself the challenge in December. I have a story I want to write -- swashbuckling fantasy adventure. My creative calendar will be empty after this weekend -- no other deadlines looming. I'll get all the mental prep done this week, and be ready to start typing on Dec 1. With luck, draft 1 by the new year. Oh, and that Write or Die thing looks great. Thanks for posting that. :D

EDIT: Random advice question that isn't really vital, but it's the one thing that's bugging me: Should this December project be the novelette that I promised to some people who run an MMORPG I used to play, for which there is no deadline but they've been waiting a long time, or should I make it be draft 1 of the full novel I really want to write, which has been distracting me from the story I promised those other people?

I'm leaning towards banging out draft 1 of the full novel in December, getting it out of my system, and then finishing the MMO story in January, but my inner guilt-monger is yelling at me for putting my self-interest ahead of my promises to others. Of course, that guilt-monger has proven itself just an enabler for my procrastination demon...

Anyone want to encourage my self-interest inner angel in the interest of actually finishing something?
unless you write all the time i would go with the story that nags at you from within. these moods dont come all that often so you should do the one that has the best chance of being completed.

and....i think i would enjoy a muravyets swashbuckling story. i very intrigued as to how you would approach the genre.
Muravyets
23-11-2008, 16:50
I quit my job last week to free up more time to finish my novel. It's shaping up to be a literary masterpiece.
Wow! You're brave and dedicated. I admire that. :D

I quit working two years ago to concentrate on art, which is something I do periodically, but I've been worrying about it, what with the economy and all. Of course, where I live, the job market is so bad that my mom mentioned just yesterday that it pretty much lets me off the hook of even trying to look for another job at the moment, so I may as well write a book.
Ashmoria
23-11-2008, 16:52
I quit my job last week to free up more time to finish my novel. It's shaping up to be a literary masterpiece.
good luck with it.

what kind of story is it?
No Names Left Damn It
23-11-2008, 16:52
I quit my job last week to free up more time to finish my novel. It's shaping up to be a literary masterpiece.

I hope for your sake it succeeds.
Valentasia
23-11-2008, 16:53
Wow! You're brave and dedicated. I admire that. :D

I quit working two years ago to concentrate on art, which is something I do periodically, but I've been worrying about it, what with the economy and all. Of course, where I live, the job market is so bad that my mom mentioned just yesterday that it pretty much lets me off the hook of even trying to look for another job at the moment, so I may as well write a book.

Haha, exactly. I'm not so sure that i'd say that i'm brave. I was an estate agent, so it was probably just a matter of time until i got released anyway.
Muravyets
23-11-2008, 16:56
unless you write all the time i would go with the story that nags at you from within. these moods dont come all that often so you should do the one that has the best chance of being completed.

and....i think i would enjoy a muravyets swashbuckling story. i very intrigued as to how you would approach the genre.
Thanks. That's just the kind of reinforcement I need against that pesky guilt-mongering little puritan (complete with funny hat and buckle shoes) who somehow got inside the back of my brain.

I'm so in love with this fantasy story idea. If it works at all, it will be a party on paper. I've got the whole thing outlined and summarized in pretty good detail already, and it's just madness. I'm going to try it, or else it will just keep haunting me.
Pirated Corsairs
23-11-2008, 16:57
I got above 36.6k yesterday. Yeah. I'm just barely keeping up right now. Hopefully work will be slow tomorrow and Tuesday-- I've got nice 5 hour shifts that I would like to use to write.

Either way, though, I just caught a brief respite that should allow me to write a lot more than I have been able to of late. No more 12-page Epic Poetry papers or Latin Exams or Philosophy presentations or other work for any of my classes until December. :D
Muravyets
23-11-2008, 16:59
I got above 36.6k yesterday. Yeah. I'm just barely keeping up right now. Hopefully work will be slow tomorrow and Tuesday-- I've got nice 5 hour shifts that I would like to use to write.

Either way, though, I just caught a brief respite that should allow me to write a lot more than I have been able to of late. No more 12-page Epic Poetry papers or Latin Exams or Philosophy presentations or other work for any of my classes until December. :D
That gives you just the week. Some respite. No rest for the wicked, eh? Good luck.
Smunkeeville
25-11-2008, 20:30
I'm an official winner! How is everyone else doing?
Pirated Corsairs
29-11-2008, 22:02
I'm an official winner! How is everyone else doing?

Congrats! I just won myself. :D
Muravyets
29-11-2008, 22:07
I'm doing detailed outlines of all the major scenes right now, planning to start my own version of the challenge on Monday and run through Dec. 30. 50K words probably won't finish the story, but if I can hit that mark, it could be something of a breakthrough for me. Wish me luck, please. :D
Dyakovo
29-11-2008, 22:08
I'm doing detailed outlines of all the major scenes right now, planning to start my own version of the challenge on Monday and run through Dec. 30. 50K words probably won't finish the story, but if I can hit that mark, it could be something of a breakthrough for me. Wish me luck, please. :D

*wishes Murav luck*
Muravyets
29-11-2008, 22:10
*wishes Murav luck*
Thanks! :D
Pirated Corsairs
29-11-2008, 22:17
I'm doing detailed outlines of all the major scenes right now, planning to start my own version of the challenge on Monday and run through Dec. 30. 50K words probably won't finish the story, but if I can hit that mark, it could be something of a breakthrough for me. Wish me luck, please. :D

*wishes Murav luck*

*Wishes luck as well*
Muravyets
29-11-2008, 22:30
*Wishes luck as well*
I appreciate it very much. I'm kind of a little daunted at the prospect, but what the hell. It's really about conquering Mount Procrastination, and that's the scariest part of the whole idea, which is what attracted me to it. If not for a prior event, I would have done it with everyone else in November. Now for a cup of coffee and back to work, as I know from bitter experience those scenes won't outline themselves.
Chandelier
29-11-2008, 22:31
I'm at 46,684 words now. Should be able to hit 50,000 in time to win.