NationStates Jolt Archive


Zombie Terrorists?

Slythros
20-10-2008, 04:32
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614

A George Rogers Clark High School junior arrested Tuesday for making terrorist threats told LEX 18 News Thursday that the "writings" that got him arrested are being taken out of context.

Winchester police say William Poole, 18, was taken into custody Tuesday morning. Investigators say they discovered materials at Poole's home that outline possible acts of violence aimed at students, teachers, and police.

Poole told LEX 18 that the whole incident is a big misunderstanding. He claims that what his grandparents found in his journal and turned into police was a short story he wrote for English class.

"My story is based on fiction," said Poole, who faces a second-degree felony terrorist threatening charge. "It's a fake story. I made it up. I've been working on one of my short stories, (and) the short story they found was about zombies. Yes, it did say a high school. It was about a high school over ran by zombies."

Even so, police say the nature of the story makes it a felony. "Anytime you make any threat or possess matter involving a school or function it's a felony in the state of Kentucky," said Winchester Police detective Steven Caudill.

Poole disputes that he was threatening anyone.

"It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention (George Rogers Clark High School), didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing,"
said Poole. "Half the people at high school know me. They know I'm not that stupid, that crazy."

On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five thousand dollars after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of the charge.

Poole is being held at the Clark County Detention Center.

I'm afraid I don't understand the logic here at all. Are they afraid that he will raise an army of zombie terrorists to overrun the school? I don't see why a story about zombies in a generic high school is in any way a threat to anything. This appears to be another incident of Americas crazy fears about terrorism gone out of control. Or maybe Kentucky is just kind of crazy. Either way, this is ridiculous.
Mirkana
20-10-2008, 04:35
Um, WTF?

The kid wrote a story about the school being overrun by zombies. Exactly how is that terroristic... or even illegal in any way?
SaintB
20-10-2008, 04:37
Oh my god... you know this is the first time I actually agree with the whole "Quickly becomign a fascist state stuff." What the fuck is this? I'm going to write myself a letter to the Kentucky Courts...
I cant select a name
20-10-2008, 04:46
Yes, when People are unable to speak against the government, and gives it control, they begin to lose freedom, and this is the result. Even perceived threats are immediately controlled. If free thought had a gravestone, it would be "This was for your own good"
ascarybear
20-10-2008, 04:54
On Thursday, a judge raised Poole's bond from one to five thousand dollars after prosecutors requested it, citing the seriousness of the charge.
Hahahahaha, I wrote a story where the whole COUNTRY gets overrun by zombies. I wonder if thats a capital crime in kentucky?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
20-10-2008, 05:01
There were a lot of zombies in my High School. If I'd been caught planning to destroy them, I'd probably have got into a fair bit of trouble.
Terratha
20-10-2008, 05:05
Yeah. I'm going to write a story where every school in Kentucky is overrun by demons and someone decides to play a real-life game of Doom.
Redwulf
20-10-2008, 05:07
Even so, police say the nature of the story makes it a felony. "Anytime you make any threat or possess matter involving a school or function it's a felony in the state of Kentucky," said Winchester Police detective Steven Caudill.

So, owning Rage by Richard Bachman is a felony in Kentucky? :eek:

Edit: And as Kbrook pointed out Carrie by Bachmans other personality, Stephen King.
Redwulf
20-10-2008, 05:11
Anyone else predicting an ACLU enema for the state of Kentucky? They'll need prospecting gear to pull out the lawyers who climb up the prosecutions ass.
The Cat-Tribe
20-10-2008, 05:13
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614

I'm afraid I don't understand the logic here at all. Are they afraid that he will raise an army of zombie terrorists to overrun the school? I don't see why a story about zombies in a generic high school is in any way a threat to anything. This appears to be another incident of Americas crazy fears about terrorism gone out of control. Or maybe Kentucky is just kind of crazy. Either way, this is ridiculous.

Just checking, but is there any data other than the kid's own word that this about nothing more than a zombie story?

Defendants rarely make public statements about how guilty they are.
Mirkana
20-10-2008, 05:19
Anyone else predicting an ACLU enema for the state of Kentucky? They'll need prospecting gear to pull out the lawyers who climb up the prosecutions ass.

The ACLU often go overboard, but this is one case where I'd love to see them kick legal ass.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
20-10-2008, 05:19
Defendants rarely make public statements about how guilty they are.
So that's what I've been doing wrong!
The next time someone asks me about my case, I'll have to think of something better to say than: "I did it. I enjoyed doing it. I'm proud I did it, and I'll probably do it again next week, if I'm not in prison."
Saige Dragon
20-10-2008, 05:27
I saw a short film not to long ago about zombies in a high school. Well it was a whole town, but it started out in a school. I don't think it was filmed in Kentucky, but it appears if one were to watch it in Kentucky they would be doing so from a prison cell.

Here we go, Children of the Plague* (http://www.freemoviescinema.com/content/view/1832/).

*Don't click the link if you live in Kentucky.
Gauthier
20-10-2008, 05:32
Kansas celebrates no longer being the most backwards state in the Union.
New Manvir
20-10-2008, 05:40
By this logic George A. Romero should be in Gitmo right now.
Redwulf
20-10-2008, 05:45
The ACLU often go overboard, but this is one case where I'd love to see them kick legal ass.

Such as when?
Redwulf
20-10-2008, 05:48
Just checking, but is there any data other than the kid's own word that this about nothing more than a zombie story?

Defendants rarely make public statements about how guilty they are.

Too lazy to look them up right now but I recall many other cases where a high school student got into legal trouble over fictional stories. I even think one involved a zombie story . . .

Just saying that if he's telling the truth this case isn't exactly unique.
Terratha
20-10-2008, 05:52
Too lazy to look them up right now but I recall many other cases where a high school student got into legal trouble over fictional stories. I even think one involved a zombie story . . .

Just saying that if he's telling the truth this case isn't exactly unique.

Here's one that's not fictitious: I nearly got expelled over a story where aliens invaded the high school I was attending. Interestingly, the story involved none of the students getting killed or even harmed. They couldn't point to a single instance of anyone even remotely human dying in the story, so I got off with a warning.
Kyronea
20-10-2008, 06:04
The ACLU doesn't go overboard. Idiot parents and teachers overreacting go overboard.

This is ridiculous. I compliment people on their vigilance in trying to stop school crime--we all know there's too much of it yet--but come on, you can't possibly say this is actually something criminal!
The Cat-Tribe
20-10-2008, 06:11
If this story is true, then I fully agree it is outrageous.

But I must remind people that the source for the article is the accused teen.
Kyronea
20-10-2008, 06:32
If this story is true, then I fully agree it is outrageous.

But I must remind people that the source for the article is the accused teen.

Oooh, good point.

Research! We need researchers!
DaWoad
20-10-2008, 06:38
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614



I'm afraid I don't understand the logic here at all. Are they afraid that he will raise an army of zombie terrorists to overrun the school? I don't see why a story about zombies in a generic high school is in any way a threat to anything. This appears to be another incident of Americas crazy fears about terrorism gone out of control. Or maybe Kentucky is just kind of crazy. Either way, this is ridiculous.

Emergency Warning to all NS members involved in II
In light of the above evidence all those involved in Zombie threads, real or imagined, and living in america may be receiving a call from the feds. I suggest moving to canada immediatly
Terratha
20-10-2008, 06:44
Emergency Warning to all NS members involved in II
In light of the above evidence all those involved in Zombie threads, real or imagined, and living in america may be receiving a call from the feds. I suggest moving to canada immediatly

Homeland Security has my home number, my cell number, and any work numbers on speed dial. They even have an agent who usually deals with me. Ted and I go way back ^^
Aerou
20-10-2008, 07:13
The devouring of young minds is a very serious matter. Law enforcement must always be on their toes when it comes to the next type of bioterrorism. *nods*
Hurdegaryp
20-10-2008, 07:34
Another glorious victory for Homeland Security. Something tells me that kid isn't going to like his grandparents anymore.
Lord Tothe
20-10-2008, 07:50
If this story is true, then I fully agree it is outrageous.

But I must remind people that the source for the article is the accused teen.

Damn straight! Guilty until proven innocent, that's the new freedom! [/sarcasm]
Laerod
20-10-2008, 08:24
Damn straight! Guilty until proven innocent, that's the new freedom! [/sarcasm]He's pointing out that the evidence may be there, just that the news source may not be the most reliable or thorough and therefore didn't manage to carry it. People are outraged because of the whole "People can't be that stupid," cropping up, and TCT is pointing out that all we have to prove they are that stupid is the statements by the person responsible.
Redwulf
20-10-2008, 08:32
He's pointing out that the evidence may be there, just that the news source may not be the most reliable or thorough and therefore didn't manage to carry it. People are outraged because of the whole "People can't be that stupid," cropping up, and TCT is pointing out that all we have to prove they are that stupid is the statements by the person responsible.

That and precedent. It's not like it hasn't happened before.
SaintB
20-10-2008, 08:40
Now that I am no working and have time to post more...

Even Kim Jong Il would be outraged by this
Laerod
20-10-2008, 09:10
That and precedent. It's not like it hasn't happened before.People having been that stupid, however, is not proof that these are as well.
Geniasis
20-10-2008, 09:10
Zombies are nothing to laugh about and I for one, am glad to see that he'll learn to think first and write later.
Pyrelos
20-10-2008, 10:04
I got a small giggle out of this article.

Most parents don't understand anything about students, this is no different than a fan writing a fiction of Harry Potter.
The Shin Ra Corp
20-10-2008, 10:18
OMG! The police would have to take on every single movie producer, actor, whatever who ever participated in some teenie splatter movie!
Ferrous Oxide
20-10-2008, 10:23
Where the fuck were all of you free speech thumpers, when I started the thread about Australian Internet censorship?
Terratha
20-10-2008, 10:24
Where the fuck were all of you free speech thumpers, when I started the thread about Australian Internet censorship?

Not giving a shit. It's Australia. Half of us honestly believe the government only controls about a quarter of the nation anyway.
Rathanan
20-10-2008, 14:18
Ever since Columbine and Virginia Tech, schools have become increasingly paranoid... All it takes is one crisis for Americans to think it's going to happen everywhere.
Farflorin
20-10-2008, 14:27
Emergency Warning to all NS members involved in II
In light of the above evidence all those involved in Zombie threads, real or imagined, and living in america may be receiving a call from the feds. I suggest moving to canada immediatly

Wow, I could be implicated as the mastermind since I did cause one of such thread with a biochemical missile of mine...

But in all seriousness... this is the most fucked up shit I've ever read. I got away with writing worse in my grade 12 and OAC (now non-existent grade 13) Writer's Craft class. I wrote horror stories for those classes and I never had problems... what the hell is wrong with people when they target kids for creative writing? I mean, it's just zombies in some generic high school... how it is a threat? Zombies don't exist.
Fonzica
20-10-2008, 14:46
Where the fuck were all of you free speech thumpers, when I started the thread about Australian Internet censorship?

It's not censorship, it's blocking off access to already illegal stuff. What's happening here is pure, complete censorship and grave infringement on freedom of speech. The US is much more of a facist state than Australia, and this just proves it.
The Lone Alliance
20-10-2008, 16:43
So if someone wrote the plot for something like "The Faculty" in Kentucky they would be arrested...


Of all the stupid, damn Soccer (or Hockey) moms and their love of fear.
Zainzibar Land
21-10-2008, 00:45
Once again the first ammendment is raped by retards trying to surpress anything they think is dangerous
Nice job Kentucky
The Cat-Tribe
21-10-2008, 01:21
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614



I'm afraid I don't understand the logic here at all. Are they afraid that he will raise an army of zombie terrorists to overrun the school? I don't see why a story about zombies in a generic high school is in any way a threat to anything. This appears to be another incident of Americas crazy fears about terrorism gone out of control. Or maybe Kentucky is just kind of crazy. Either way, this is ridiculous.

Having done some more research, I have found that the original story here is undated and that the events described occurred in 2005.

Here (http://www.zerointelligence.net/archives/000604.php) are what appear to me to be full details of the case (although with a definite spin in favor of the defendant), which resulted in the charges being dismissed. However, the young man violated the terms of his parole while the charges were pending and received two years probation for that offense.

So can all stop worrying about the First Amendment. It is fine.
Slythros
21-10-2008, 02:01
Having done some more research, I have found that the original story here is undated and that the events described occurred in 2005.

Here (http://www.zerointelligence.net/archives/000604.php) are what appear to me to be full details of the case (although with a definite spin in favor of the defendant), which resulted in the charges being dismissed. However, the young man violated the terms of his parole while the charges were pending and received two years probation for that offense.

So can all stop worrying about the First Amendment. It is fine.

Oh whoops. Thanks for the clarification.
Blouman Empire
21-10-2008, 02:08
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Sorry I just thought this was one of the funniest things i have read for a long time.

I wonder if such shows like Buffy were banned in Kentucky?
South Lizasauria
22-10-2008, 01:29
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S=2989614



I'm afraid I don't understand the logic here at all. Are they afraid that he will raise an army of zombie terrorists to overrun the school? I don't see why a story about zombies in a generic high school is in any way a threat to anything. This appears to be another incident of Americas crazy fears about terrorism gone out of control. Or maybe Kentucky is just kind of crazy. Either way, this is ridiculous.

Maye the police who saw the story was an English wiz and saw some political symbolism in it. :p