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So, the Chaffey Community Republican women, Federated decided to send out an anti-Obama newsletter containing this

http://www.ktla.com/common/medialib/image/42890.jpg

As for what they have to say about it (taken from this article (http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Newsletter-of-Obama-with-Watermelon-Spar=1&blockID=81317&feedID=171)) . . .

"Diane Fedele, president of the group, said the move had no racist intent.

"I never connected," she said. "It was just food to me. It didn't mean anything else."

Fedele said she had received the illustration in e-mails and decided to reprint it to poke fun at a previous remark by Obama that he doesn't look like other presidents.

"It was strictly an attempt to point out the outrageousness of his statement. I really don't want to go into it any further,""

So what do you think? More deplorable racism from this campaign or an "innocent" "mistake"?

No racist intent, eh?

She must be blissfully ignorant. I wish I could be full of bliss like that.

It *is* funny though

Oh my..

she must have been unconsciously channelling her inner racist. there is no way that you put THAT on an image without knowing exactly what you are doing.

There's racism involved alright. Chicken, Kool-aid, ribs, watermelon?... come on. According to sterotypes, this is the food African-Americans eat. The intent is pretty obvious considering the fact that Barrack Obama belongs to the African-American community. Fidele is full of shit. :rolleyes:

she must have been unconsciously channelling her inner racist. there is no way that you put THAT on an image without knowing exactly what you are doing.

I'm trying to think of a racist stereotype they missed, but I'm coming up blank.

she must have been unconsciously channelling her inner racist. there is no way that you put THAT on an image without knowing exactly what you are doing.

Then again there was the school I worked at in Denver that, on Martin luther King day, served what my wife described after I told her the menu as "Everything but the watermelon" for there hot lunch.

I'm trying to think of a racist stereotype they missed, but I'm coming up blank.

He's not raping a white woman, wearing bling, or stealing a TV . . .

There's racism involved alright. Chicken, Kool-aid, ribs, watermelon?... come on. According to sterotypes, this is the food African-Americans eat. The intent is pretty obvious considering the fact that Barrack Obama belongs to the African-American community. Fidele is full of shit. :rolleyes:

Also note that it's supposed to be a food stamp.

... Hahahahaha. That's just hilarious.

Well... that just set america back 500 years. :p

You Americans are too hung up on race. Here in Australia, we're racist, but in a funny way. :D

I'm trying to think of a racist stereotype they missed, but I'm coming up blank.
he could have been wearing hiphop clothing i suppose.

Well... that just set america back 500 years. :p

America's being the same since the 1600s. Not much has changed there, no matter what some people say. Unfortunately the country's as racist as always. And for that matter, neither has Europe. Racism is as rampant here as it is in the US.

America's being the same since the 1600s. Not much has changed there, no matter what some people say. Unfortunately the country's as racist as always. And for that matter, neither has Europe. Racism is as rampant here as it is in the US.

It always will be. People always fear and despise what they don't understand. :(

Then again there was the school I worked at in Denver that, on Martin luther King day, served what my wife described after I told her the menu as "Everything but the watermelon" for there hot lunch.
mighta had the same inner racist thing going on?

unless the school lunch administrator is black and was going with a southern theme because dr king was a southerner?

mighta had the same inner racist thing going on?

unless the school lunch administrator is black and was going with a southern theme because dr king was a southerner?

To this day I'm not sure which they were going for.

I'm trying to think of a racist stereotype they missed, but I'm coming up blank.

He's not raping a white woman, wearing bling, or stealing a TV . . .

No crack vials, no hog and hominy, no back seat, no separate facilities, no tree with a noose.

You Americans are too hung up on race. Here in Australia, we're racist, but in a funny way. :D
yeah im sure the aborigines are very amused by it.

Also note that it's supposed to be a food stamp.

Yeah, I saw that. I guess Republicans forget that there's a certain element of American society called White Trash.:D

No crack vials, no hog and hominy, no back seat, no separate facilities, no tree with a noose.

It also lacks a '64 Impala.

yeah im sure the aborigines are very amused by it.

They're just a complete basketcase, though. The other "races", like skips, wogs and Asians get along quite well. And tell me, could you make a TV show like Fat Pizza in the US?

Yeah, I saw that. I guess Republicans forget that there's a certain element of American society called White Trash.:D

Actually thats MOST of American society. :D

(Joking, don't take offense. :p)

Here's a link to a CNN video (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/17/racist.obama.newsletter.kcal) on the subject my computer won't let me watch.

They're just a complete basketcase, though. The other "races", like skips, wogs and Asians get along quite well. And tell me, could you make a TV show like Fat Pizza in the US?
only if it were in spanish.

(we dont get australian tv here so i have no idea what that show is like but the spanish language channels put on some pretty sketchy stuff from time to time)

Here's a link to a CNN video (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/17/racist.obama.newsletter.kcal) on the subject my computer won't let me watch.

It is funny. But it is also a grave insult to African Americans.

Hahahahaha! What an idiot.

only if it were in spanish.

(we dont get australian tv here so i have no idea what that show is like but the spanish language channels put on some pretty sketchy stuff from time to time)

It's basically about a pizza shop run by stereotypical wogs (European-Australians) with lots of other stereotypes peppered throughout. It's quite funny, but can you imagine a US show with stereotypical African-Americans? There'd be a goddamn race riot.

Here's a link to a CNN video (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/17/racist.obama.newsletter.kcal) on the subject my computer won't let me watch.

"She's not racist, she's a Mexican!"

:D :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHT5Ro5jd0k

It's basically about a pizza shop run by stereotypical wogs (European-Australians) with lots of other stereotypes peppered throughout. It's quite funny, but can you imagine a US show with stereotypical African-Americans? There'd be a goddamn race riot.
or it would run on comedy central with a black host...

This would have been a non-story but for Diane Fedele's attempt to spin it as innocent. Of course it was racist and stupid. Innocent mistake my ass.

We've all seen equally racist stuff here and elsewhere, and mostly we snicker at the lulz value then move on. Had she said "Of course it was racist and stupid, and we never should have released it. I apologize on behalf of my group. It won't happen again," that would have ended it. Compounding her idiocy with that lame 'apology' was her real mistake.

People don't recoil from idiocy. People recoil from idiots defending that idiocy beyond the point that it's defensible.

This would have been a non-story but for Diane Fedele's attempt to spin it as innocent. Of course it was racist and stupid. Innocent mistake my ass.

We've all seen equally racist stuff here and elsewhere, and mostly we snicker at the lulz value then move on. Had she said "Of course it was racist and stupid, and we never should have released it. I apologize on behalf of my group. It won't happen again," that would have ended it. Compounding her idiocy with that lame 'apology' was her real mistake.

People don't recoil from idiocy. People recoil from idiots defending that idiocy beyond the point that it's defensible.

Which means that groups like MoveOn will now try to somehow link Fedele to the main McCain/Palin campaign to "expose" the whole Republican Party as trying to derail the Obama campaign purely out of racial hatred.

Which means that groups like MoveOn will now try to somehow link Fedele to the main McCain/Palin campaign to "expose" the whole Republican Party as trying to derail the Obama campaign purely out of racial hatred.
Psychic powers? Why don't we let that happen before we start crowing about it, eh?

We don't have to be yelling "rightwing conspiracy" to criticize this Fidele idiot for her group's racist "joke."

So, the Chaffey Community Republican women, Federated decided to send out an anti-Obama newsletter containing this

http://www.ktla.com/common/medialib/image/42890.jpg

As for what they have to say about it (taken from this article (http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Newsletter-of-Obama-with-Watermelon-Spar=1&blockID=81317&feedID=171)) . . .

"Diane Fedele, president of the group, said the move had no racist intent.

"I never connected," she said. "It was just food to me. It didn't mean anything else."

Fedele said she had received the illustration in e-mails and decided to reprint it to poke fun at a previous remark by Obama that he doesn't look like other presidents.

"It was strictly an attempt to point out the outrageousness of his statement. I really don't want to go into it any further,""

So what do you think? More deplorable racism from this campaign or an "innocent" "mistake"?

This is straight bigot here folks. No way to spin it. Just food my ass lady.

There's racism involved alright. Chicken, Kool-aid, ribs, watermelon?... come on. According to sterotypes, this is the food African-Americans eat. The intent is pretty obvious considering the fact that Barrack Obama belongs to the African-American community. Fidele is full of shit. :rolleyes:

qft. and have I told you lately that I love you? :eek:

It's even funnier that some of the Republicans who got the image were black.

Talk about shooting your own feet eh?

qft. and have I told you lately that I love you? :eek:

No Liuzzo, you have not told me real lately that you love me. That was making me sad. But you rectified. Now I won't have to spank you.:wink:

This is straight bigot here folks. No way to spin it. Just food my ass lady.

Seriously. By copping that "What? I had no idea!" act about it, she just compounds it. Does she think all the whiteys are just going to wink back at her and snigger behind our hands?

Also, I wonder what the legal departments at KFC and KoolAid think about having their corporate IDs attached to this.

Seriously. By copping that "What? I had no idea!" act about it, she just compounds it. Does she think all the whiteys are just going to wink back at her and snigger behind our hands?

Also, I wonder what the legal departments at KFC and KoolAid think about having their corporate IDs attached to this.

I smell a sue!!:D

I smell a sue!!:D

At the very least a cease and desist order and a public condemnation.

Seriously. By copping that "What? I had no idea!" act about it, she just compounds it. Does she think all the whiteys are just going to wink back at her and snigger behind our hands?

Also, I wonder what the legal departments at KFC and KoolAid think about having their corporate IDs attached to this.
she probably should have said that she thought it was CANADIAN or something.

Here's a link to a CNN video (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/17/racist.obama.newsletter.kcal) on the subject my computer won't let me watch.
This is just ridiculous. First of all, the people who are bitching about it should grow thicker skin. Second of all the people who are defending it and saying it's not racist are either outright lying or some of the dumbest people I've ever seen.

It's obviously racist because it's making fun of stereotypical black foods. To be honest, the people who made it HAD to know that (so they're not dumb, they're just lying) because, well, statistically what are the chances that someone just HAPPEND to use an image that just HAPPEND to have a watermelon, bucket o' extra crispy and ribs on it....

It's just ridiculous. :rolleyes: Makes me want to slap these people who are denying it...."it's not racist because my Dad is Mexican!"...as if that has anything to do with it!:p

Having said that, I do find it funny and I was giggling throughout that CNN video-report. :D

I mean, no matter if you are the Grand Wizard of the Klan...or teach Political Correctness 101 at Berkely, how do you not atleast giggle at this:

http://www.ktla.com/common/medialib/image/42890.jpg

No Liuzzo, you have not told me real lately that you love me. That was making me sad. But you rectified. Now I won't have to spank you.:wink:

Oh please don't withhold that from me. I don't need to be punished by taking away my favorite things. Seriously, the "my dad is Mexican" thing as an excuse is just BS.

At the very least a cease and desist order and a public condemnation.

Summon Al Sharpton!:eek2:

It's just more evidence of the vastly sinister and malevolent anti-Obama conspiracy that's infected this country. Don't worry though, once he gets elected, he'll fix everything that could possibly be wrong and lead us into a land flowing with milk and honey. And then, on his second day in office...

Psychic powers? Why don't we let that happen before we start crowing about it, eh?

We don't have to be yelling "rightwing conspiracy" to criticize this Fidele idiot for her group's racist "joke."

And where did I say you could only criticize Fidele when it was in conjunction with conspiracy talk? I stated that groups like MoveOn.Org will probably try to link her to the main Republican campaign.

This seems like an angrier Friday than usual. :fluffle:

Asides from a brownie being on the front, how is that racist? It's nasty, but not blatantly racist.

Although this isn't the most bigoted thing to happen at Chaffey (which is where I go to college) it is one that bothers me. After all, they should know that these are racial stereotypes, though apparently they didn't, or pretended not to, even though there are black members of the group.

Interesting tidbit: On the local news a reporter asked a member about it, and pointed out that the food was a racial stereotype, and the member responded, and I'm not kidding, "Says who? You?" then they talked to a black member who said it was racist and the first woman should talk to her.

Oh, and as for the most bigoted moment at Chaffey, that dubious honor goes to an antiabortionist who set up pictures of aborted babies in teh middle of campus, and used a megaphone to rant on and on and on for two hours, saying things like baby-killer, you're going to hell, etc. It's now legendary here.

Oh, and as for the most bigoted moment at Chaffey, that dubious honor goes to an antiabortionist who set up pictures of aborted babies in teh middle of campus, and used a megaphone to rant on and on and on for two hours, saying things like baby-killer, you're going to hell, etc. It's now legendary here.
So? That's legit, I guess, if one is anti-abortion. I don't think that's that ridiculous...not like this watermelon, koolaid, chicken thing......

Asides from a brownie being on the front, how is that racist? It's nasty, but not blatantly racist.

This is just ridiculous. First of all, the people who are bitching about it should grow thicker skin. Second of all the people who are defending it and saying it's not racist are either outright lying or some of the dumbest people I've ever seen.

It's obviously racist because it's making fun of stereotypical black foods. To be honest, the people who made it HAD to know that (so they're not dumb, they're just lying) because, well, statistically what are the chances that someone just HAPPEND to use an image that just HAPPEND to have a watermelon, bucket o' extra crispy and ribs on it....

It's just ridiculous. :rolleyes: Makes me want to slap these people who are denying it...."it's not racist because my Dad is Mexican!"...as if that has anything to do with it!:p

Having said that, I do find it funny and I was giggling throughout that CNN video-report. :D

I mean, no matter if you are the Grand Wizard of the Klan...or teach Political Correctness 101 at Berkely, how do you not atleast giggle at this:

http://www.ktla.com/common/medialib/image/42890.jpg

It's just more evidence of the vastly sinister and malevolent anti-Obama conspiracy that's infected this country. Don't worry though, once he gets elected, he'll fix everything that could possibly be wrong and lead us into a land flowing with milk and honey. And then, on his second day in office...

Well ? ....

Tell us, whats Barack Allmighty going to do on the second day ? ...

<bites nails in anticipation>

:p

If TAI thinks it's racist, that's the end of the argument.

And no, that isn't meant to infer he's a racist. But he's certainly one of the most difficult people to convince that something is racist.

...when the fuck did I start qualifying my humor? See what racism does to people? :(

If TAI thinks it's racist, that's the end of the argument.

And no, that isn't meant to infer he's a racist. But he's certainly one of the most difficult people to convince that something is racist.

...when the fuck did I start qualifying my humor? See what racism does to people? :(

I say dipping your head in is equivalent to blackface. No more mud for you.

This is just ridiculous. First of all, the people who are bitching about it should grow thicker skin. Second of all the people who are defending it and saying it's not racist are either outright lying or some of the dumbest people I've ever seen.

It's obviously racist because it's making fun of stereotypical black foods. To be honest, the people who made it HAD to know that (so they're not dumb, they're just lying) because, well, statistically what are the chances that someone just HAPPEND to use an image that just HAPPEND to have a watermelon, bucket o' extra crispy and ribs on it....

It's just ridiculous. :rolleyes: Makes me want to slap these people who are denying it...."it's not racist because my Dad is Mexican!"...as if that has anything to do with it!:p

Having said that, I do find it funny and I was giggling throughout that CNN video-report. :D

I mean, no matter if you are the Grand Wizard of the Klan...or teach Political Correctness 101 at Berkely, how do you not atleast giggle at this:

*snip*

Um. You came so close, and yet missed the mark.

Yes, it is blatantly racist and denying it is racist is stupid.

No, it isn't particularly funny. It is a sad comment on how screwed up our country is on the subject of race.

As for "thicker skin," say that to the black Republicans that received this in the mail. Their own group resorting to such horrible stereotypes.

I say dipping your head in is equivalent to blackface. No more mud for you.

:eek:

:(

There's racism involved alright. Chicken, Kool-aid, ribs, watermelon?... come on. According to sterotypes, this is the food African-Americans eat. The intent is pretty obvious considering the fact that Barrack Obama belongs to the African-American community. Fidele is full of shit. :rolleyes:

No, really. She just happened to pick those 4 foods.

Really!

Oh come on, grow some thick skin, Americans. If a wog ran for PM of Australia, I'm sure they'd have shit like this with hommas, kebabs, cevaps and holubtsi, and it would be goddamn HILARIOUS.

Oh come on, grow some thick skin, Americans. If a wog ran for PM of Australia, I'm sure they'd have shit like this with hommas, kebabs, cevaps and holubtsi, and it would be goddamn HILARIOUS.

It's not about growing thick skin, mate. It's about what applies to the political and social realities of a certain country. In Australia what happened with the Obama bill may be hilarious, in the US it's offensive.

It's not about growing thick skin, mate. It's about what applies to the political and social realities of a certain country. In Australia what happened with the Obama bill may be hilarious, in the US it's offensive.

If you pulled that with any Australia minority, it would be hilarious. And they'd win, too.

Thank you for demonstrating that Australians are scum.

Oh come on, grow some thick skin, Americans. If a wog ran for PM of Australia, I'm sure they'd have shit like this with hommas, kebabs, cevaps and holubtsi, and it would be goddamn HILARIOUS.

Well, I disagree both with your sense of humor and your predictive skills.

Regardless, does Australia have a long, continuing history of slavery, segregation, and discrimination against "wogs"? If not, your example is inapposite.

Well, I disagree both with your sense of humor and your predictive skills.

Regardless, does Australia have a long, continuing history of slavery, segregation, and discrimination against "wogs"? If not, your example is inapposite.

White Australians spent the better part of fifty years being incredibly racist to "wogs". It's not slavery, but it's still pretty bad. I think that we've managed to go past that as society, and that says a lot about us. I have skip friends; fifty years about, skips were taunting my father about being a wog.

If you pulled that with any Australia minority, it would be hilarious. And they'd win, too.

Once again mate, you need to apply it to the country in question. In Australia, it may be funny. In the US it's a serious offense to a large part of the American population.

Um. You came so close, and yet missed the mark.

Yes, it is blatantly racist and denying it is racist is stupid.

No, it isn't particularly funny. It is a sad comment on how screwed up our country is on the subject of race.

As for "thicker skin," say that to the black Republicans that received this in the mail. Their own group resorting to such horrible stereotypes.

To be absolutely fair "they just want to rape our good white women and steal our TVs" is a horrible stereotype, this is just a garden variety stereotype.

Thank you for demonstrating that Australians are scum.

Dude, I am an Australia minority. I expect that crap. And I've got material to counter it. We've reached a point where when can enjoy the cultural differences between us.

White Australians spent the better part of fifty years being incredibly racist to "wogs". It's not slavery, but it's still pretty bad.
How often were murders involved?

Dude, I am an Australia minority. I expect that crap. And I've got material to counter it. We've reached a point where when can enjoy the cultural differences between us.

We haven't. But then, we're weird about making light of one of the worst periods in our history. A time when we owned people and had the "right" to do with them as we pleased, including rape and kill them.

Funny stuff, really.

How often were murders involved?

Pfhhh, I dunno, I wasn't there.

Regardless, does Australia have a long, continuing history of slavery, segregation, and discrimination against "wogs"?

Yes, yes it does.

Lol, Adunabar, it doesn't, but the Aussies did spend most of the 20th Century being incredible racist to us.

Lol, Adunabar, it doesn't, but the Aussies did spend most of the 20th Century being incredible racist to us.

But you're Ukrainian-German, not Aborigine. Wog is a derogatory term, in England at least, for blacks, and aborigines are black, therefore wogs=Aborigines.

But you're Ukrainian-German, not Aborigine. Wog is a derogatory term, in England at least, for blacks, and aborigines are black, therefore wogs=Aborigines.

Not in Australia. Wog in Australian references several groups of southern Europeans, Eastern Europeans and the like. Mostly anyone bordering on the Med.

Not in Australia. Wog in Australian references several groups of southern Europeans, Eastern Europeans and the like. Mostly anyone bordering on the Med.

Ah. In that case completely ignore me. I assumed the meaning'd be the same as in England, mainly because of the amount of racism towards aborigines in Australia but also due to the fact a lot of Australians are of English decent.

What Jocabia said. It's the first thing I've actually agreed with him on, actually. Wog was used to insult new European immigrants in general.

What Jocabia said. It's the first thing I've actually agreed with him on, actually. Wog was used to insult new European immigrants in general.

It's broader than that, however recent that is. It now sometimes refers to North Africans and people from the western Arabian peninsula.

I'm trying to think of a racist stereotype they missed, but I'm coming up blank.

He's not molesting a white woman. Mind you, we can't see the back....

This isn't too pretty either - from the good folk in the Virginian Republican party

The last image, of a brown-skinned man who looks very much like Barack Obama, with the words "America must look evil in the eye and never flinch" superimposed over his face, is vile. Whether or not it IS Barack Obama - and it's close enough that a lot of people could reasonably conclude that it is - this is basically arguing that anyone with skin darker than baby powder is a potential threat.
http://raisingkaine.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=1E55D115E3595A37B81D03D9A05755D2?diaryId=16675

I mean, no matter if you are the Grand Wizard of the Klan...or teach Political Correctness 101 at Berkely, how do you not atleast giggle at this:


Because the only connection between the articulate US politician shown thereon and food stamps, watermelon and fried chicken is a racial stereotype.

Pfhhh, I dunno, I wasn't there.
Neither was I, but the long period when racial intimidation was routinely enforced by murders is too notorious for me not to have heard of it. I take it you are conceding that the situation in Australia was really nothing like this?

Oh come on, grow some thick skin, Americans. If a wog ran for PM of Australia, I'm sure they'd have shit like this with hommas, kebabs, cevaps and holubtsi, and it would be goddamn HILARIOUS.

This coming from The Artist Formerly Known as The Potato Factory. Surprahs, surprahs, surprahs.

Because the only connection between the articulate US politician shown thereon and food stamps, watermelon and fried chicken is a racial stereotype.
Which is funny. You're gonna have a hard time proving that racial humor isn't funny to most Americans. Indeed, it's not coincidence that things/people like (off the top of my head) South Park, Chris Rock, Family Guy, Dave Chappelle, Mind of Mencia ect ect ect are so ridiculously popular amongst Americans yet controversial for their racial humor (and not just that, obviously).
If TAI thinks it's racist, that's the end of the argument.

And no, that isn't meant to infer he's a racist. But he's certainly one of the most difficult people to convince that something is racist.

...when the fuck did I start qualifying my humor? See what racism does to people? :(
Indeed, and I understood what you meant without clarifying. :wink:
Um. You came so close, and yet missed the mark.

Yes, it is blatantly racist and denying it is racist is stupid.

No, it isn't particularly funny. It is a sad comment on how screwed up our country is on the subject of race.

As for "thicker skin," say that to the black Republicans that received this in the mail. Their own group resorting to such horrible stereotypes.
It is funny. See, we can go on all day because these are personal opinions on what is funny or not..and, like I've shown above to Nodinia, racial humor is funny to many, many Americans.

However, it is unintelligent of the woman to send this out, obviously because she may lose Black Republican voters as a result of it. That doesn't make it 'horrible', it just makes it funny but unintelligent as political motivation.

There is a large gap between being simply funny racism that is not politically intelligent and 'horrible racial stereotypes'.....

These aren't horrible. They're just stupid and funny.....

Making fun of what black people eat and drink is not horrible....

Which is funny. You're gonna have a hard time proving that racial humor isn't funny to most Americans. Indeed, it's not coincidence that things/people like (off the top of my head) South Park, Chris Rock, Family Guy, Dave Chappelle, Mind of Mencia ect ect ect are so ridiculously popular amongst Americans yet controversial for their racial humor (and not just that, obviously).

Indeed, and I understood what you meant without clarifying. :wink:

It is funny. See, we can go on all day because these are personal opinions on what is funny or not..and, like I've shown above to Nodinia, racial humor is funny to many, many Americans.

However, it is unintelligent of the woman to send this out, obviously because she may lose Black Republican voters as a result of it. That doesn't make it 'horrible', it just makes it funny but unintelligent as political motivation.

There is a large gap between being simply funny racism that is not politically intelligent and 'horrible racial stereotypes'.....

These aren't horrible. They're just stupid and funny.....

Making fun of what black people eat and drink is not horrible....

At the risk of losing my Anti-TAI Club Card, I think you make some good points.

I was thinking "horrible" from the point of view of someone who is black, particularly a black Republican. Obviously, it could have been worse, but that doesn't mean it isn't pretty offensive.

like I've shown above to Nodinia, racial humor is funny to many, many Americans.

Yes, its amazing in my 39 years I've never seen or heard of anyone called Richard Pryor or Chris Rock, Sarah Silverman, Joan Rivers, Mel Brooks....No, but I'm suddenly bathed in fucking illuminating light now.

Which is funny. You're gonna have a hard time proving that racial humor isn't funny to most Americans.

I've no doubt that it is. This isn't an example of it however.

This is just ridiculous. First of all, the people who are bitching about it should grow thicker skin. Second of all the people who are defending it and saying it's not racist are either outright lying or some of the dumbest people I've ever seen.

It's obviously racist because it's making fun of stereotypical black foods. To be honest, the people who made it HAD to know that (so they're not dumb, they're just lying) because, well, statistically what are the chances that someone just HAPPEND to use an image that just HAPPEND to have a watermelon, bucket o' extra crispy and ribs on it....

It's just ridiculous. :rolleyes: Makes me want to slap these people who are denying it...."it's not racist because my Dad is Mexican!"...as if that has anything to do with it!:p

Having said that, I do find it funny and I was giggling throughout that CNN video-report. :D

I mean, no matter if you are the Grand Wizard of the Klan...or teach Political Correctness 101 at Berkely, how do you not atleast giggle at this:

http://www.ktla.com/common/medialib/image/42890.jpg
It's easy, if you're not a racist.

Well, I disagree both with your sense of humor and your predictive skills.

Regardless, does Australia have a long, continuing history of slavery, segregation, and discrimination against "wogs"? If not, your example is inapposite.Actually, Australians don't do slavery, they're more into genocide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_War).

At the risk of losing my Anti-TAI Club Card, I think you make some good points.
Oh, well because I really wouldn't that and I'm eager to provide you with a chance to redeem yourself, I'll probably be making a thread on this issue I've had my eye on, about Mosques in Germany reported on by Der Spiegel.

I was thinking "horrible" from the point of view of someone who is black, particularly a black Republican. Obviously, it could have been worse, but that doesn't mean it isn't pretty offensive.
It's only horrible in the sense that it's horrible for the Republican community, who's black membership (of that community), which is bound to decline.

To me it's light 'racism', like if you said Jews love money or Asians are nerdy number crunchers or so.....it's not horrible at all, it's just slightly negative light racism, which isn't problematic by itself but will be politically problematic because that's inappropriate in the political arena and does nothing positive for the numbers of Black Republicans in the community.

I don't think we disagree on that, but I disagree and state that there is nothing 'horrible' about it, even from a Black perspective, in my opinion. (Obviously I'm not Black)

Yes, its amazing in my 39 years I've never seen or heard of anyone called Richard Pryor or Chris Rock, Sarah Silverman, Joan Rivers, Mel Brooks....
How unfortunate that you've lived in such seclusion all your life. :p

I've no doubt that it is. This isn't an example of it however.
See above.
It's easy, if you're not a racist.
If one must be 'racist' to enjoy light racial humor I'd say almost everyone is 'racist'.

Oh, well because I really wouldn't that and I'm eager to provide you with a chance to redeem yourself, I'll probably be making a thread on this issue I've had my eye on, about Mosques in Germany reported on by Der Spiegel.

:D


It's only horrible in the sense that it's horrible for the Republican community, who's black membership (of that community), which is bound to decline.

To me it's light 'racism', like if you said Jews love money or Asians are nerdy number crunchers or so.....it's not horrible at all, it's just slightly negative light racism, which isn't problematic by itself but will be politically problematic because that's inappropriate in the political arena and does nothing positive for the numbers of Black Republicans in the community.

I don't think we disagree on that, but I disagree and state that there is nothing 'horrible' about it, even from a Black perspective, in my opinion. (Obviously I'm not Black)

If one must be 'racist' to enjoy light racial humor I'd say almost everyone is 'racist'.

I think you are playing a bit fast and loose with the categories of "slightly negative light racism" and "light racial humor." The intent of those that created this thing was NOT making a joke, they were trying to make a racist point that was hurtful. (Although they are trying to deny that now.)

I'm not big on telling people that are offended by something racist that they should just "grow thicker skin" rather than be offended. Especially in a country with a history of and ongoing problem of extreme discrimination, this kind of shit is more than "light humor."

To me it's light 'racism', like if you said Jews love money or Asians are nerdy number crunchers or so.....it's not horrible at all, it's just slightly negative light racism, which isn't problematic by itself but will be politically problematic because that's inappropriate in the political arena and does nothing positive for the numbers of Black Republicans in the community.


So it is, but it isn't.

If one must be 'racist' to enjoy light racial humor

So if I pick a random Jewish politician, based on nothing but his Jewishness and regardless of policy, and stick a caricature of him grasping at a few money bags, thats funny?

So it is, but it isn't.
It is what I said it is.

So if I pick a random Jewish politician, based on nothing but his Jewishness and regardless of policy, and stick a caricature of him grasping at a few money bags, thats funny?
I would have a few giggles, yeah. Hey, 'if you can't laugh at yourself'...... (or people who share your relgion)
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I think you are playing a bit fast and loose with the categories of "slightly negative light racism" and "light racial humor." The intent of those that created this thing weren't making a joke, they were trying to make a racist point that was hurtful. (Although they are trying to deny that now.)
And what was that racist hurtful point? That Obama likes fried chicken, purple drink, and ribs.....?
I'm not big on telling people that are offended by something racist that they should just "grow thicker skin" rather than be offended.
While I am because I'm of the opinion that if you don't let minor things get to you, notably things that may be a bit negative but really not extreme nor hurtful, then you'd be a whole lot better off in the long run and would have lower blood pressure and less facial wrinkles.....
Especially in a country with a history of and ongoing problem of extreme discrimination, this kind of shit is more than "light humor."
Indeed our history is filled with extreme discrimination and in some places it's an ongoing problem, but this not an example of one of them, in my opinion.

Something hurtful and extreme would be if the Republican party sent out a newsletter that had a picture of Obama being hung on a tree by the GOP, reading: "Hang that ******, it's what's best for White America."

And what was that racist hurtful point? That Obama likes fried chicken, purple drink, and ribs.....?

While I am because I'm of the opinion that if you don't let minor things get to you, notably things that may be a bit negative but really not extreme nor hurtful, then you'd be a whole lot better off in the long run and would have lower blood pressure and less facial wrinkles.....

Indeed our history is filled with extreme discrimination and in some places it's an ongoing problem, but this not an example of one of them, in my opinion.

Something hurtful and extreme would be if the Republican party sent out a newsletter that had a picture of Obama being hung on a tree by the GOP, reading: "Hang that ******, it's what's best for White America."

Again, the "it could have been worse" argument isn't really that persuasive.

And you overlook the "food stamps/black people are on welfare" aspect of the newsletter.

And racial stereotypes don't exist in a vacuum. The newsletter was obviously not merely saying "don't vote for Obama, he likes chicken and Kool-Aid," but rather was appealing to a broader stereotype about how black people are "different" and undesirable.

Well ? ....Tell us, whats Barack Allmighty going to do on the second day ? ...<bites nails in anticipation> :p

I'm don't know how he's going to top that, but I'm sure whatever he does will be audacious and hopeful. It might even (fingers crossed!) involve some sort of change!

It is what I said it is.."

You said it was, but only "light". You're equivocating.


I would have a few giggles, yeah. Hey, 'if you can't laugh at yourself'...... (or people who share your relgion).."

So pictures of random persons, with various appropriate racist stereotypes added is humour?


And what was that racist hurtful point? That Obama likes fried chicken, purple drink, and ribs.....? ).."

O fuck off. You know precisely what they were getting at. You already admitted it was "light" racism and now you're trying to slide out of it again.