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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9SOVzMV2bc&feature=related

Just seen this video. I think it very neatly shows the irrelevance and reliability of what presidential candidates say in election time. Thoughts?

Also note that Bush seems a whole lot more articulate and smarter here then he seems now. What is it about entering office that not only completely changes your political opinions, but changes your character as well?

Another example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkk3mhk3N0I&feature=related

Proof that power corrupts?

Indeed.

Indeed.

Quite disturbingly, he actually seems to have half a brain there too. :eek:

No, just proof that Dubya was deeply dishonest on the campaign trail. I am convinced that the Bush we see now is always what he was.

Another video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvknGT8W5jA&feature=related

No, just proof that Dubya was deeply dishonest on the campaign trail. I am convinced that the Bush we see now is always what he was.

Perhaps, but there's still the question of his sudden drop in articulacy.

Perhaps, but there's still the question of his sudden drop in articulacy.

Too much Crack. *Nods*

A humble bush omg!!

Thing is, in these videos, Bush seems waaay better than McCain. So if Bush can change that much when going into office, imagine the effect it will have on an older and more senile McCain? It could actually be... worse than Bush.

Perhaps, but there's still the question of his sudden drop in articulacy.

It's an act, to make him seem more like the common person. If you watched him after Democrats took Congress back, you would have noted he suddenly was articulate again.

It's an act, to make him seem more like the common person. If you watched him after Democrats took Congress back, you would have noted he suddenly was articulate again.

Well I don't just mean him speaking slower and dumbing it down, I also mean the huge amounts of stupid cock ups he's made during speeches, that makes him look bad to everyone. Is that an act too?

Maybe he was dishonest?

http://www.gnn.tv/articles/article.php?id=761

The presidency also ages people terribly. Each year as President seems to count as two. I first noticed on George Bush Sr. 4 years as President were hard on him.

Well I don't just mean him speaking slower and dumbing it down, I also mean the huge amounts of stupid cock ups he's made during speeches, that makes him look bad to everyone. Is that an act too?

Depends on his speech writers.

The presidency also ages people terribly. Each year as President seems to count as two. I first noticed on George Bush Sr. 4 years as President were hard on him.
Same with the PM here in the UK - Tony Blair = massive greyhead - not so 10 or so years ago!

Same with the PM here in the UK - Tony Blair = massive greyhead - not so 10 or so years ago!

Aye, our various leaders here too. Rudd used to be blonde, but now his hair is as grey as a... erm... a grey thing.

Being the leader of a nation is said to be the most stressful job there is, worse than Air Traffic Controller. Perhaps stress could be the cause of his inarticulacy since taking office? We need to all remember too that things didn't start truly getting bad until we had a Democratic controlled congress. (No I am not defending the man, things were already getting bad; I am proposing theories; and pointing out the fact that party politics fucks up everything more.)

the videos in the OP: Telling the voters what they want to hear. Proof that the Republicans weren't as stupid as they are generally portrayed here when they voted for him the first time (although that election WAS a mess all around)

What we see now: Proof that he's a lying, conniving, thieving, warmongering bastard. Well, he may not technically be a "bastard" in the literal sense of the word. I apologize for that remark. The rest is pretty much accurate. The problem in 2004 was that Kerry was as much a slimy pandering traitor as Bush had proven himself to be after 4 years. It was a coin toss. I voted 3rd party.

Bush is from the paleoconservative camp. they tend to be more isolationist.
Before 9/11 he was playing the isolationist. Given its hard to tell that early in a presidency he was not an interventionist (Cheney is a neoconservative and is an interventionist which is why he is often joked as being the decision maker.)

No, just proof that Dubya was deeply dishonest on the campaign trail. I am convinced that the Bush we see now is always what he was.
This, to be sure.

The presidency also ages people terribly. Each year as President seems to count as four. I first noticed on George Bush Sr. 4 years as President were hard on him.

Fixed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JSBhI_0at0

This is an interesting video I dont know if you guys know Rage Against the Machine, But they made this in 2000.

Probably because he didnt have any surprises to catch him off guard, if he has time to think about what he is saying then sometimes he does sound smarter.