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Queen Elizabeth II visits Google

Sarrowquand
16-10-2008, 11:38
So it looks like the queen of England is google has put up a QE2 picture on their homepage to celebrate. The BBC coverage is hilarious, apparently the queen is quite the silver surfer, and that the "royal" channel on youtube (powered by google or something) is the fastest growing for subscribtions and the 19th most popular.
Shalotte
16-10-2008, 11:41
Silver surfer, eh? Maybe she'll be my Facebook friend! Why's she visiting Google though?

I bet she looks at porn when she's on her computer at night...
Blouman Empire
16-10-2008, 13:06
I wonder if she googles herself.

Next she will have her own gmail and be IM the other royals in Europe.

What would her screen name be?
Shalotte
16-10-2008, 14:31
I wonder if she googles herself.

Next she will have her own gmail and be IM the other royals in Europe.

What would her screen name be?

'T3h QU33N13' I would imagine.
The Archregimancy
16-10-2008, 14:35
So it looks like the queen of England is google has put up a QE2 picture on their homepage to celebrate. The BBC coverage is hilarious, apparently the queen is quite the silver surfer, and that the "royal" channel on youtube (powered by google or something) is the fastest growing for subscribtions and the 19th most popular.

I believe that you'll find that Elizabeth II is the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not the 'Queen of England'.

There has been no independent nation state called 'England' for 301 years.
Yootopia
16-10-2008, 14:49
Huzzah!
Bokkiwokki
16-10-2008, 15:08
I believe that you'll find that Elizabeth II is the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not the 'Queen of England'.

There has been no independent nation state called 'England' for 301 years.

And since she is queen of the UK, she is also queen of England.
The Archregimancy
16-10-2008, 15:14
And since she is queen of the UK, she is also queen of England.

Only in the sense that George W. Bush is President of California.

Her full legal British titles are:

Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

See any 'Queen of England' there? No? I don't either.
Blouman Empire
16-10-2008, 15:18
No while she does rule over England her only titles in regards to purely those within the United Kingdom is Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith, Duke of Lancaster, Duchess of Edinburgh, Countess of Merioneth and Baroness Greenwich, Lord of Man and Duke of Normandy (this is still the case as the UK still has control over the Channel Isles)
Dragontide
16-10-2008, 15:39
Way to go Queen! The sky's the limit now. I hope she packs a lunch when she googles "global warming" and "Military-Industrial Complex.
:hail:
Sarkhaan
16-10-2008, 16:10
I believe that you'll find that Elizabeth II is the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not the 'Queen of England'.

There has been no independent nation state called 'England' for 301 years.

She's also the queen of Canada, Australia, the Bahamas, England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, India, Pakistan, South Africa...

you get the picture. It isn't inaccurate to call her any of these.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
16-10-2008, 16:16
An irrelevant, self-important anachronism does something that billions of other people already do on a regular basis! I am so awed, so shocked, so amazed, truly a great day for useless, inbred genetic degenerates everywhere.
Redwulf
16-10-2008, 16:21
So it looks like the queen of England is google has put up a QE2 picture on their homepage to celebrate. The BBC coverage is hilarious, apparently the queen is quite the silver surfer, and that the "royal" channel on youtube (powered by google or something) is the fastest growing for subscribtions and the 19th most popular.

So when does Galactus get here?
Peepelonia
16-10-2008, 16:27
I believe that you'll find that Elizabeth II is the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not the 'Queen of England'.

There has been no independent nation state called 'England' for 301 years.

Pedant! *points* Lookee there! Pedant!:eek2:
Abdju
16-10-2008, 16:59
An irrelevant, self-important anachronism does something that billions of other people already do on a regular basis! I am so awed, so shocked, so amazed, truly a great day for useless, inbred genetic degenerates everywhere.

If you don't have anything useful to say then don't reply.

I'm suprised this has only come up now though, the royal family has been using the internet for ages, for obvious reasons.
Peepelonia
16-10-2008, 17:10
If you don't have anything useful to say then don't reply.

I'm suprised this has only come up now though, the royal family has been using the internet for ages, for obvious reasons.

Ohh the thought police are out early tonight!

I think it is clear he had something useful to say(hence letters making up words, and in their turn sentances, by which he communicated what it was he wanted to say), and that what he wanted to say was well put accross.

I mean did you miss what he means, or did you just not agree with his sentiements?
Forsakia
16-10-2008, 18:08
She's also the queen of Canada, Australia, the Bahamas, England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, India, Pakistan, South Africa...

you get the picture. It isn't inaccurate to call her any of these.

I think they're correct. Queen of England is not strictly speaking one of her titles.
Nadkor
16-10-2008, 20:15
She's also the queen of Canada, Australia, the Bahamas, England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, India, Pakistan, South Africa...

you get the picture. It isn't inaccurate to call her any of these.

Yes, it is. It's innacurate to call her the Queen of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, India, Pakistan, or South Africa.

Fail.
The Archregimancy
16-10-2008, 20:37
She's also the queen of Canada, Australia, the Bahamas, England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, India, Pakistan, South Africa...

you get the picture. It isn't inaccurate to call her any of these.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. You really don't know much about Commonwealth constitutional history, do you?

I'm not the first person to at least partially address this, but...

She is indeed separately the Queen of Canada, Queen of Australia, and the Queen of the Bahamas, and is known as such in each of those countries.

India, Pakistan and South Africa, however, are republics.
India became a republic before she became queen, so she's never been Queen of India.
Pakistan became a republic in 1956, so she hasn't been Queen of Pakistan since 1956.
South Africa became a republic in 1961, so she hasn't been Queen of South Africa since 1961.
That she remains Head of the Commonwealth doesn't automatically make her the monarch over every Commonwealth country.

While she's Queen of the United Kingdom, and thus the monarch reigning over England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, she isn't separately Queen of any of those places in title or law. Wales and Northern Ireland aren't even kingdoms; they're a principality and province respectively.


Pedant! *points* Lookee there! Pedant! :eek2:

Guilty as charged, M'lud. On this issue at least.
Imperial isa
16-10-2008, 23:19
An irrelevant, self-important anachronism does something that billions of other people already do on a regular basis! I am so awed, so shocked, so amazed, truly a great day for useless, inbred genetic degenerates everywhere.

yes but she had to go to their HQ to google
Katganistan
16-10-2008, 23:54
What would her screen name be?

W3@r3n07@mu53d Yes, yes, I know that was Queen Victoria, but it amuses me.

Only in the sense that George W. Bush is President of California.

Her full legal British titles are:

Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

See any 'Queen of England' there? No? I don't either.
Yeah? Where does she live?

Would that be England? ;)
Tmutarakhan
17-10-2008, 00:32
the royal family has been using the internet for ages, for obvious reasons.
They're much more up-to-date and with-it than one of our Presidential candidates :tongue:
Nanatsu no Tsuki
17-10-2008, 00:34
And this is noteworthy because... ???
Nova Magna Germania
17-10-2008, 01:42
I believe that you'll find that Elizabeth II is the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not the 'Queen of England'.

There has been no independent nation state called 'England' for 301 years.

She is also the queen of Canada.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Queen_of_canada_wob.jpg
Xomic
17-10-2008, 02:25
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titles_and_honours_of_Queen_Elizabeth_II

She has a *lot* of titles.
Blouman Empire
17-10-2008, 03:32
I'm suprised this has only come up now though, the royal family has been using the internet for ages, for obvious reasons.

PORN!!!!

What? I'm sure Prince Harry or William have stumbled across it.
The Archregimancy
17-10-2008, 06:48
Yeah? Where does she live?

Would that be England? ;)

So I take it that George W. Bush is the President of the District of Columbia? ;)


Again, England is part of the United Kingdom, not a separate nation state.

And her summer residence, Balmoral, is in Scotland.
Dinaverg
17-10-2008, 09:59
So I take it that George W. Bush is the President of the District of Columbia? ;)

Sure, why not?
Alban States
17-10-2008, 10:19
Queen of Scots,not Scotland
Stevid
17-10-2008, 10:35
Yes, it is. It's innacurate to call her the Queen of England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, India, Pakistan, or South Africa.

Fail.


No it's not innacurate, she just is the monarch of all the states mentioned and further more those in the commonwealth (that choose the be there, eg. The United States and Iraq can choose to be in the commonwealth if they choose since they were both at some point British territories).

It's only inaccurate to call her then Queen of England, Wales and Scots namely becuase those countries are still one bloody country.

TIP: If she's on the back of your coins then she p@wns your arse cuz she's the monarch of your country. She owns it, she's the head of state and no matter whether it is a democracy or not- she's technically in charge.
The Archregimancy
17-10-2008, 11:06
No it's not innacurate, she just is the monarch of all the states mentioned and further more those in the commonwealth (that choose the be there, eg. The United States and Iraq can choose to be in the commonwealth if they choose since they were both at some point British territories).

It's only inaccurate to call her then Queen of England, Wales and Scots namely becuase those countries are still one bloody country.


<Sigh>

You weren't paying attention, were you?

She isn't the monarch of every Commonwealth nation, only of those that maintain the Queen as Head of State.

Nadkor was entirely correct in pointing out that the Queen isn't Queen of Pakistan, India or South Africa as all three are presidential republics.

The title 'Head of the Commonwealth' does not confer on the Queen the status of monarch on those Commonwealth nations that are republics.

Furthermore, your statement that having previously been a British territory (though thank you for using 'British', not 'English') is a prerequisite of joining the Commonwealth is demonstrably false. While the Commonwealth is directly descended from the British Empire, and the vast majority of Commonwealth members are former British territories, not all of them are.

Commonwealth member Mozambique is a former Portuguese colony with no historical links to the British Empire; the overwhelming majority of British Cameroon voted to join Nigeria in a plebiscite on independence, but previously-French Cameroon is nonetheless a Commonwealth member; former Belgian and German colony Rwanda is about to apply for membership.
Lacadaemon
17-10-2008, 11:29
Pfft. She's actually a blood drinking reptilian hybrid who controls the world central banks from the City of London via a conspiracy of German and Angolan International bankers.

Prepare for the coming global fascist state.
Abdju
17-10-2008, 11:36
PORN!!!!

What? I'm sure Prince Harry or William have stumbled across it.

:rolleyes: Honestly, the level of ignorance here is outstanding. Everyone knows it it doesn't have nazis that Harry isn't interested.... which brings to mind the whole Max Mosley thing...bad mental image :eek:

In seriousness, the palace as an institution has kept track of things online for a while to get a heads up on any press hysteria that's about to break and as an image check to see whose winning the PR battles.
Peepelonia
17-10-2008, 12:12
So I take it that George W. Bush is the President of the District of Columbia? ;)


Again, England is part of the United Kingdom, not a separate nation state.

And her summer residence, Balmoral, is in Scotland.

Really 3 pages of argueing pedantry? I am a Dad, a Son, an Uncle a Husband, a man, and I have a given name.

It is fine to call me by any of these titles. Shit I even call my wife by the title of Mum, but she isn't my Mum, but you know it doesn't matter as she cleary is a Mother.

Queen Elizibeth the second, can certianly be called the Queen of England, now lets stop all of this pedantry and get back to taking the piss out of monarchy huh huh!:D
Exilia and Colonies
17-10-2008, 12:21
It must be cool to have the right to wander into anywhere in the country.

*has vision of Queen wandering on screen during BBC news asking where the tea machine is*
Sarrowquand
17-10-2008, 13:45
And this is noteworthy because... ???

It was just something that made me smile when I was watching the news. I wanted to see what other people thought mostly. Also has google been using its page image for non holiday things like this before? This is the first one I've noticed.

p.s. We all know that what Elizabeth is queen of is important, it just isnt that important right now, so people don't need to be called ignorent when they're mostly just being casual.

(also she is queen of cornwall)
http://www.westcountryinsight.co.uk/Cornwalls%20flag.jpg
Blouman Empire
17-10-2008, 17:23
:rolleyes: Honestly, the level of ignorance here is outstanding. Everyone knows it it doesn't have nazis that Harry isn't interested.... which brings to mind the whole Max Mosley thing...bad mental image :eek:

In seriousness, the palace as an institution has kept track of things online for a while to get a heads up on any press hysteria that's about to break and as an image check to see whose winning the PR battles.

Oh please spare me your eye rolls I was having a joke, with the whole pron thing. And thank you very much for bringing the Max Mosley image in my mind :mad:



:)
Adunabar
17-10-2008, 18:16
England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland

Those are all in the U.K.
Adunabar
17-10-2008, 18:16
(also she is queen of cornwall)

That's a county in England.
Tmutarakhan
17-10-2008, 18:40
That's a county in England.

It's a DUCHY! since everybody's being so pedantic
Nanatsu no Tsuki
17-10-2008, 18:40
It was just something that made me smile when I was watching the news. I wanted to see what other people thought mostly. Also has google been using its page image for non holiday things like this before? This is the first one I've noticed.

p.s. We all know that what Elizabeth is queen of is important, it just isnt that important right now, so people don't need to be called ignorent when they're mostly just being casual.

(also she is queen of cornwall)
http://www.westcountryinsight.co.uk/Cornwalls%20flag.jpg

I want to learn Cornish.
Adunabar
17-10-2008, 18:48
I want to learn Cornish.

Learn Welsh. It's practically the same language. I was watching a travel documentary about 2 years ago and this Welsh bloke went into a Cornish pub and ordered a drink in Welsh and he got what he wanted. It's more likely you'll be able to find Welsh classes/a Welsh tutor than Cornish, as well.
Adunabar
17-10-2008, 18:49
It's a DUCHY! since everybody's being so pedantic

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/

It's a county. Not all of Cornwall is owned by Prince Charles.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
17-10-2008, 18:50
Learn Welsh. It's practically the same language. I was watching a travel documentary about 2 years ago and this Welsh bloke went into a Cornish pub and ordered a drink in Welsh and he got what he wanted. It's more likely you'll be able to find Welsh classes/a Welsh tutor than Cornish, as well.

Thanks for the tip.
The Archregimancy
17-10-2008, 19:14
It's a DUCHY! since everybody's being so pedantic

Bah. By the standards of this thread, that's petty pedantry.

It's both a Duchy and a county. The County of Cornwall and the Duchy of Cornwall aren't quite the same thing. Not all of the county is part of the Duchy, and not all of the Duchy is in the county.


As to Cornish and Welsh being 'practically the same'. I'd respectfully disagree. I've had occasion to work with both languages professionally (though I claim no ability to actually speak either), and while they're closely related, they're not 'nearly identical'. Learning Welsh would give you an insight in the shared components of the language, but it'll no more give you immediate access into the language than learning Breton would.

And Welsh is by no means an easy language itself. I took ten weeks of evening classes (I'm not in fact Welsh), and I still can't get much past ordering a pint of beer and asking where the toilets are. At least I have the two most important basics covered.

Part of the problem is that until quite recently, there were four different versions of revived Cornish all competing for learners, and which were by no means always themselves entirely mutually intelligible. However, I understand a unified single version of revived Cornish was recently agreed on.



Finally, addressing those implicit and explicit accusations of pedantry...

Making a stand over the Queen's titles make strike some as quixotic, but I think it does matter.

It matters because so many people outside of the UK think 'England', 'Britain', and 'The United Kingdom' can be used interchangeably, which is simply wrong (try that in Glasgow on a Friday night if you think it doesn't matter).

And it matters because the posts in this thread have demonstrated that at least two people think that the Queen is the monarch of Pakistan, India and South Africa just because she's Head of the Commonwealth. Which is simply ignorant.
Nadkor
18-10-2008, 00:54
No it's not innacurate, she just is the monarch of all the states mentioned and further more those in the commonwealth (that choose the be there, eg. The United States and Iraq can choose to be in the commonwealth if they choose since they were both at some point British territories).

No.

Just no.

It's only inaccurate to call her then Queen of England, Wales and Scots namely becuase those countries are still one bloody country.

Your point? Oh, you're agreeing with me? I see.

TIP: If she's on the back of your coins then she p@wns your arse cuz she's the monarch of your country. She owns it, she's the head of state and no matter whether it is a democracy or not- she's technically in charge.

Hmm, best not to get into a debate with me on the constitutional status and powers of the monarchy in the UK, yeah?