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Aliens invade UK!!!!

Zilam
15-10-2008, 20:46
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7573530.stm


Exotic spiders crawl into the UK
By Rebecca Morelle
Science reporter, BBC News


On the trail of the tube web

Exotic species of spiders are making their homes in the UK, scientists say.

Researchers believe arachnids arriving in imports of food and plants are now able to survive and spread thanks to the UK's increasingly mild climate.

The new inhabitants include a species of false widow spider and some believe the deadly black widow could be next to invade.

Conservation group Buglife wants import rules to be strengthened to stem the tide of alien species invasion.

Matt Shardlow, director of Buglife, told BBC News: "Other countries in the world take great care about what biological material they allow in, because it can contain pests that can damage our goods, our livelihoods, our health and our biodiversity.
Our increasingly warm climate is starting to suit many more spiders
Stuart Hine, Natural History Museum

"Currently in the UK, we have a laissez-faire attitude - there is an open licence for people to bring in dangerous pests."

But a spokesperson for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) said that a new strategy was in place to "tackle the threat to the UK's native biodiversity from unwanted pest species which have 'hitchhiked' into the UK on plants".

All this week, BBC News will be taking a closer look at some of the alien invaders that are in the UK.

Aggressive arachnid

John Partridge from the British Arachnological Society said his organisation had had an increase in the number of enquiries about "strange spiders".

He added: "We are certainly getting more spiders coming into the UK - and it seems that more are spreading around the country once they are in."

One new inhabitant is Steatoda paykulliana , a false widow spider that is native to Southern Europe, West Asia and North Africa.

It is about 0.7-1.5cm (0.3-0.6in) in size and can bite.

While this spider had been spotted in the UK in the past, it was thought that no colonies had established.

But Stuart Hine, who runs the Insect Identification Service at the Natural History Museum, said this was no longer the case.

He said: "Now we have found it in Plymouth. And it looks as if it is here to stay."

The arrival of exotic spiders and insects that had hitched a ride on various imports was not a new phenomenon, said Mr Hine.

"If there was a warm period they would be able to survive, but a cold snap would kill them off," he explained.

"But now, our increasingly warm climate is starting to suit many more spiders - and once they come in, they are able to stay put."

This has also meant that some invasive species that once only existed within a few small pockets in the UK have been able to spread.



UK's 'most venomous' spider

This false widow is thought to have first arrived in the UK from the Mediterranean in the late 1800s.

For many decades it remained in a small area within Devon, but about 15 years ago it began to spread and it can now be spotted all along the South Coast.


Mr Hine said: "It has a nasty bite - and some people can have a bad reaction to it."

The tube web spider ( Segestria florentina ), another non-native biting spider, has also been on the move, spreading from the South Coast much further north.

It is a large spider, measuring between 1.5cm and 2.2cm (0.6-0.9in), with green iridescence on its jaws.

Mr Hine said: "In spider terms, it has to be said that this is an aggressive spider.

"If you approach it, it raises its legs and bares its fangs.

"Most spiders will back away - this one will jump at you and bite."

Mr Hine believes that the black widow spider could be next on the list for the UK.

He said: "There is no great reason that they wouldn't survive here now - winters are now mild enough.

"It really is only a matter of time."

A balancing act

While experts stress that not all new species have a negative impact, they do warn that trade is a key factor in the number of new species that enter the country.

Defra is responsible for checking the products that enter the UK.

A spokesperson told the BBC: "The government and its agencies work with businesses, overseas authorities and the general public to minimise the risk of exotic animal and plant pests and diseases from entering the country and threatening public health, livestock, agriculture, horticulture and the environment.

"Disease can enter the country in many ways; that's why Defra undertakes international disease monitoring, while there are also strict controls on the movement of livestock and animals."

But Mr Shardlow from Buglife said: "We cannot just view moving biological material around like other trade products.

"You have to have a bit of environmental awareness, and I think we should be looking to import and export less biological material."


:eek2:

I for one welcome the UK's new spider overlords.:hail:


Seriously though, as global climate change increases we are likely to see more instances of alien species that 'invade' places they should never exist. With that being said, and as I don't want this to be a spam +1 post, I am wondering what ye olde intellects at NSG think would be the worst invasive species to have in your area.

I can already tell you mine: The Japanese Beetle. Those SoBs like to swarm me and bite me for no apparent reason other than irk me.
Conserative Morality
15-10-2008, 20:50
Ha! it's too cold here up in the mountains for anything even remotely bug-like to live (or move) here.:D
Riopo
15-10-2008, 21:18
Why? Where do you live? :)
Dragontide
15-10-2008, 21:43
Seriously though, as global climate change increases we are likely to see more instances of alien species that 'invade' places they should never exist.

The good news: It won't be a problem much longer

The bad news: Since polar ice melt puts more pressure against magma trying to rise at the bottom of the ocean: expect more earthquakes, volcanos and sea quakes!

Beware of the Dragontides. They move when your not looking at them.
Lackadaisical2
15-10-2008, 21:58
I might have to agree with you, Japanese beetles are bastards. Used to work at a park and they ate up all the leaves on my nice trees...

Of course, theres also dutch elm disease.
Adunabar
15-10-2008, 22:08
ZOMG alein spdres!!!1111
Belschaft
15-10-2008, 22:35
Who cares about the spiders. What about the repteloids! There already here, and control the liberal media..... That's why you never here about the.... Liberal consipracy..... anti-capatilism.... military goverment complex..... secret world goverment.....

*paranoid ramblings continue*
Trans Fatty Acids
15-10-2008, 22:37
Hmmm. Probably the worst invasive species we currently have around here is the pipe-clogging, bird-infecting zebra mussel. Worst potential threat to the ecosystem is probably the emerald ash borer.

Far and away the worst long-term threat due to global warming? The %$#*ing Fire Ant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_imported_fire_ant). The South can keep that tradition all to itself, thanks very much.
Conserative Morality
15-10-2008, 22:43
Hmmm. Probably the worst invasive species we currently have around here is the pipe-clogging, bird-infecting zebra mussel. Worst potential threat to the ecosystem is probably the emerald ash borer.

Far and away the worst long-term threat due to global warming? The %$#*ing Fire Ant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_imported_fire_ant). The South can keep that tradition all to itself, thanks very much.
I... Despise... Fire ants...
Dumb Ideologies
15-10-2008, 22:44
Psh...if they can't do probing they aren't real aliens:p
Conserative Morality
15-10-2008, 22:46
Psh...if they can't do probing they aren't real aliens:p

Trust me. Fire ants can probe. O_o
Dumb Ideologies
15-10-2008, 22:48
Trust me. Fire ants can probe. O_o

Very well. Statement cheerfully withdrawn.
Self-sacrifice
16-10-2008, 11:23
ZOMG alein spdres!!!1111

its spiderman. I KNEW he wasnt human
Laerod
16-10-2008, 11:27
Seriously though, as global climate change increases we are likely to see more instances of alien species that 'invade' places they should never exist. With that being said, and as I don't want this to be a spam +1 post, I am wondering what ye olde intellects at NSG think would be the worst invasive species to have in your area.

I can already tell you mine: The Japanese Beetle. Those SoBs like to swarm me and bite me for no apparent reason other than irk me.Hasn't happened quite yet, but malaria mosquitos.
Shalotte
16-10-2008, 11:44
And to think, one of the best things about living in the UK was that there were no particularly dangerous animals living alongside us. Now we don't even have that! I can't eat anything without worrying about a black widow trying to eat me.
G3N13
16-10-2008, 12:24
The bad news: Since polar ice melt puts more pressure against magma trying to rise at the bottom of the ocean
Umm, ok.

In absolute worst scenario, which is not happening in foreseeable future, average pressure increase of around 1.5% would cause this (~600 kPa to ~39 MPa)?

A source would be nice.
SaintB
16-10-2008, 12:33
Japanese Beatles, and Gypsy Moths are the two biggest threats around here. Fire ants might make their way up too...
G3N13
16-10-2008, 12:35
Japanese Beatles
Lennon-san, Starr-san, McCartney-san & Harrison-san are invading Pennsylvania? :)
Blouman Empire
16-10-2008, 13:25
Isn't this how the Black plague spread through Europe and the British Isles?

Yes I know it was rodents, but still.
Dragontide
16-10-2008, 14:27
Umm, ok.

In absolute worst scenario, which is not happening in foreseeable future, average pressure increase of around 1.5% would cause this (~600 kPa to ~39 MPa)?

A source would be nice.

http://www.climateemergency.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=110

"A number of geologists say glacial melting due to climate change will unleash pent-up pressures in the Earth's crust, causing extreme geological events such as earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanic eruptions.

A cubic metre of ice weighs nearly a tonne and some glaciers are more than a kilometre thick. When the weight is removed through melting, the suppressed strains and stresses of the underlying rock come to life."

Aren't oil companies just wonderful? Record profits for them... Record amounts of destruction for us.
SaintB
17-10-2008, 04:52
Lennon-san, Starr-san, McCartney-san & Harrison-san are invading Pennsylvania? :)

Spell checkers rarely catch the difference, besides it was 4 am (ish)!
Saige Dragon
17-10-2008, 04:59
In British Columbia and parts of Alberta, the Mountain Pine Beetle is doing a pretty damn good job of destroying whole forests at the moment. Here's hoping the mountains get a good cold winter this year.
G3N13
17-10-2008, 13:33
http://www.climateemergency.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=110

"A number of geologists say glacial melting due to climate change will unleash pent-up pressures in the Earth's crust, causing extreme geological events such as earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanic eruptions.

A cubic metre of ice weighs nearly a tonne and some glaciers are more than a kilometre thick. When the weight is removed through melting, the suppressed strains and stresses of the underlying rock come to life."

Aren't oil companies just wonderful? Record profits for them... Record amounts of destruction for us.
Well, the crust is still rising here because of the pressure ice caused in the last ice age, so that's a more sensible - albeit localized - concern.

Though, continental ice shelfs aren't really melting currently.
Chumblywumbly
17-10-2008, 13:37
I was half-expecting a Richard Littlejohn anti-immigration rant...
DrunkenDove
17-10-2008, 14:02
http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/c_1d/carnage.jpg
Dragontide
17-10-2008, 20:48
Well, the crust is still rising here because of the pressure ice caused in the last ice age, so that's a more sensible - albeit localized - concern.

Though, continental ice shelfs aren't really melting currently.

There has been a net loss of polar ice each year in the past few years.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4790238.stm

http://www.countercurrents.org/polya110208.htm

A little better this year, but we did go through the cooling effects of a powerful La Nina this year.

One thing that has been confusing many is record ice freezing in the winter. Whith record ice losses in the summers, this should be expected. But the ice involved in the record freezes does not hard freeze. That takes a few years. All that record re-freezing ice hes melted again each summer plus more.
Adunabar
17-10-2008, 21:03
http://www.climateemergency.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid=110
A number of geologists

2 is a number, as is 0.1.
Dragontide
17-10-2008, 21:18
2 is a number, as is 0.1.

I counted 5:

Alan Glazner

Patrick Wu

Michael Oppenheimer

James Hansen

Hans Joachim Schellnhuber
The Lone Alliance
17-10-2008, 22:03
I might have to agree with you, Japanese beetles are bastards. Used to work at a park and they ate up all the leaves on my nice trees...

Of course, theres also dutch elm disease.

I hate Japanese beetles with a passion, they eat the some of the flowers around here, Funny thing is that these flowers are so big that sometimes when it rains they drown in them. Or the flower falls off and I stomp it. I hate the mfers.
Patriqvinia
17-10-2008, 23:52
The good news: It won't be a problem much longer

The bad news: Since polar ice melt puts more pressure against magma trying to rise at the bottom of the ocean: expect more earthquakes, volcanos and sea quakes!

Beware of the Dragontides. They move when your not looking at them.

Global cooling now... Ice caps have grown this year... *sigh* I hope we're not stupid enough to go crazy over climate change again...
Rhursbourg
18-10-2008, 00:02
ooh spiders isnt that one reason why spades where invented for to whack nasty spiders with
Dragontide
18-10-2008, 00:12
Global cooling now... Ice caps have grown this year... *sigh* I hope we're not stupid enough to go crazy over climate change again...

A year with a powerful La-Nina. The world temp this year so far does not suggest any sort of cooling pattern. (which is now long, long, overdue)
G3N13
18-10-2008, 19:00
There has been a net loss of polar ice each year in the past few years.
But not in any significant amount.

20 billion tonnes is 20 cubic kilometers.

Hardly a diddly squat compared to the 20-30 *million* cubic kilometers of ice bound to Antarctic alone.