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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081014/ap_on_el_pr/palin

So... Veiled idiocy about wars in an attempt to shut up... her own supporters.

She argued against her own supporters, and with a fallacy. She's really doing what she was born to do: Provide me (and you people) with entertainment.

Also... Anger at "the Washington (BUZZWORD ALERT) Elite"? Silly me. Here I thought the "Kill him!" reactions were fanned up by implied accusations of links to terrorism!

She won't be nearly as entertaining if she and McCain actually get elected (not that Obama and Biden are any better).

She won't be nearly as entertaining if she and McCain actually get elected (not that Obama and Biden are any better).

That's because she'll have overstepped her boundaries of purpose in life. Hers, for instance, is entertaining me, not being VP. See how it works?

Yes, but even now she's more scary than amusing.

To quote Freddy Mercury: it's a kind of magic.

It's almost worth electing McCain just to see her mess up some more.....almost.

Nothing is worth electing McCain or Obama.

It's almost worth electing McCain just to see her mess up some more.....almost.

Why do you need to put the world at risk when you can simply move to Alaska? :p

Personally, I'm entertained. However, that's because I know that if she steps too far out of line with her religious bullshit, she'll get slapped down so hard that it'll echo through time and cause whatever monkey she'd descended from to feel it.

Nothing is worth electing McCain or Obama.

Who are you voting for then?

Why do you need to put the world at risk when you can simply move to Alaska? :p

Because I have no desire to freeze my ass off? ;)

Because I have no desire to freeze my ass off? ;)

Yeah, the nuclear winter that follows a McCain presidency? That oughtta do it. :p

Who are you voting for then?

No one. I don't believe in voting.

Yeah, the nuclear winter that follows a McCain presidency? That oughtta do it. :p

What makes you think Barack "no options are off the table" Obama will be any better?

No one. I don't believe in voting.

Me neither. I once set up a date with Voting, and Voting stood me up. I don't believe anything Voting says anymore.

How nihilistic!

What makes you think Barack "no options are off the table" Obama will be any better?

For starters, only diplomacy is off the table for McCain.

What makes you think Barack "no options are off the table" Obama will be any better?

Honestly? Because he doesn't have what it takes to get into the nuclear arms race that would preceed it.

For starters, only diplomacy is off the table for McCain.

Obama hasn't ruled out attacking Iran.

Me neither. I once set up a date with Voting, and Voting stood me up. I don't believe anything Voting says anymore.

Now, if voters voted only for their own ruler (not who ruled, or didn't rule, everyone else), voting wouldn't be so bad. I shouldn't be forced to accept someone as my master just because 50.00000001% of the population thinks I should, whether I prefer that master or not. The only master a person should have is himself.

Obama hasn't ruled out attacking Iran.

McCain ruled out not attacking it.

McCain ruled out not attacking it.

I'm not arguing that McCain is desirable, or even sane. But the fact that McCain is terrible doesn't make Obama any good. They're both equally odious.

Now, if voters voted only for their own ruler (not who ruled, or didn't rule, everyone else), voting wouldn't be so bad. I shouldn't be forced to accept someone as my master just because 50.00000001% of the population thinks I should, whether I prefer that master or not. The only master a person should have is himself.

I vote for this ruler:

http://www.penseurope.com/images/product/ven_rulers_large.jpg

Anyways. We can discuss the system AFTER using it to keep another Republican out of power.

Why not keep both crooks out of power? The lesser of two evils (and I'm not convinced Obama is less evil; I think they're about equal) is still an evil.

PAS, it would be nice if we could do that, but it's not how the system works. Want to be rid of them? Be rid of the Electoral College first. Then let's work on making a two-party system into a system that allows multiple parties.

Forensatha, if you find out a way of doing that, you better teach it to the Britons too. :D

(This comes from a person whose home country's government currently has 4 parties in power and about 6 in opposition.)

Which country is that, Araraukar?

No one. I don't believe in voting.But voting still believes in you =D

Dear gods, Palin!

http://bum.net/pics/facepalm2.jpg

I vote for this ruler:

http://www.penseurope.com/images/product/ven_rulers_large.jpg

Anyways. We can discuss the system AFTER using it to keep another Republican out of power.
http://bookstoysgames.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cthulhu4prez-preview1.png?w=420&h=420
Cthulhu! :D

I'm amazed that 20,000 people turned up to hear her speak. I didn't think (read: hope) there'd be 20,000 people left in the entire USA who would support her now, let alone 20k in Richmond.

I'm amazed that 20,000 people turned up to hear her speak. I didn't think (read: hope) there'd be 20,000 people left in the entire USA who would support her now, let alone 20k in Richmond.

Partially the rubberneck effect, like people who watch NASCAR for the crashes. A certain percentage, growing daily I'd wager, shows up just to see the carnage.

It would seem that her purpose is not to become Vice President...

Yes, but even now she's more scary than amusing.
It's been there all along, just barely under the surface. Just barely.
Palin is not a young creature: it is old, and dirty, and evil ... before the oil companies, before the Republicans. The evil was there, waiting.

It would seem that her purpose is not to become Vice President...

No, it's to give Tina Fey her own political caricature to become famous with.

No, it's to give Tina Fey her own political caricature to become famous with.She doesn't need that to be famous, but it sure works, don't it?
'sides, i can think of some fun things to do with Fey that aren't necessarily political. Oh, yes.

I happen to know a lady who has family in Alaska. Her family in Alaska is part of that 80 plus percent % who love and support thier Governor Sarah Palin. Wish her to become Vice President and eventually President of the USA.

As I have posted before it looks like Obama will win the election, that said I hope not. As A Cuban American citizen there is no way I could vote for Obama. My one issue litmus test is Cuba. I know 99 % of my fellow NS nations dont care about the Cuban issues, but it is my right to care. I am also a Republican for economic, foreign policy and defense issues. yes I know about the current financial crisis, ect, ect, ect.

I think Obama is not the candidate of change he claims to be. I think he is fooling alot of people like alot of the Independents. Certainly I am not alone in this view.

I happen to know a lady who has family in Alaska. Her family in Alaska is part of that 80 plus percent % who love and support thier Governor Sarah Palin. Wish her to become Vice President and eventually President of the USA.I have family and friends in Alaska, and oh, i happen to reside in Alaska too. That "80%" thing is bullshit. You should talk to a few other Alaskans first.

I have family and friends in Alaska, and oh, i happen to reside in Alaska too. That "80%" thing is bullshit. You should talk to a few other Alaskans first.

lol, they must be part of that other 20 percent %. Perfectly acceptable.

I happen to know a lady who has family in Alaska. Her family in Alaska is part of that 80 plus percent % who love and support thier Governor Sarah Palin. Wish her to become Vice President and eventually President of the USA.


And your proof of this 80% is...?

And your proof of this 80% is...?
Her, of course.
Just like her "vindication" speech.
http://www.examiner.com/x-243-Progressive-Politics-Examiner~y2008m10d12-Sarah-Palin-lives-in-an-alternative-universe

I happen to know a lady who has family in Alaska. Her family in Alaska is part of that 80 plus percent % who love and support thier Governor Sarah Palin. Wish her to become Vice President and eventually President of the USA.

As I have posted before it looks like Obama will win the election, that said I hope not. As A Cuban American citizen there is no way I could vote for Obama. My one issue litmus test is Cuba. I know 99 % of my fellow NS nations dont care about the Cuban issues, but it is my right to care. I am also a Republican for economic, foreign policy and defense issues. yes I know about the current financial crisis, ect, ect, ect.

I think Obama is not the candidate of change he claims to be. I think he is fooling alot of people like alot of the Independents. Certainly I am not alone in this view.

This is how many times you've posted the exact same story? 4, 5 times? In as many threads. You ever think you possibly say something other than this? just for the novelty factor if nothing else.

fyi, her support may once have been 80% but it's now 65% and dropping:

http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/10/12/post-troopergate-palin-still-popular-in-alaska-just-not-as-much/

Popularity numbers of all politicians rise, fall and rise. At 65 % that is still good. There will always be citizens who have a different view, that is normal.

Popularity numbers of all politicians rise, fall and rise. At 65 % that is still good. There will always be citizens who have a different view, that is normal.

If she was at 80%, and is now at 65%, that represents a 15% drop. Another drop of that same magnitude would put her at 50%. Any further drops after that will mean she loses. Basically, she has cut her "lead" in half. A 15 point drop is quite terrible for any politician.

Popularity numbers of all politicians rise, fall and rise. At 65 % that is still good. There will always be citizens who have a different view, that is normal.

So if it drops to 30%, you'd still say that it's good?

So if it drops to 30%, you'd still say that it's good?

Very funny not. When it rises back to 80 and 90 percent %, I will personally tell you its excellent. My friend.

Very funny not. If it rises back to 80 and 90 percent %, I will personally tell you its excellent. My friend.

Corrected for truth.

It seems as though Palin hasn't added anything or virtue to McCain's campaign beyond eye candy, which is not what the voters want right now. They want someone who can handle the economy, not someone who has an admitted weakness when it comes to economy, and someone who has no experience in politics outside of governor of a small state and mayor of a tiny town.

Governor Sarah Palin is the governor of the State of Alaska. She deserves respect for that. Their will always be persons who dont like her and persons who do. I will always like her and respect her as a governor. That is my right to do so. Your right not too.

Very funny not. When it rises back to 80 and 90 percent %, I will personally tell you its excellent. My friend.

It only has to drop a few times more by the same magnitude which it has from your claimed levels, and Palin is not winning herself any friends beyond the ultra-nationalist racists every time she opens her mouth recently.

In fact, given that the KKK and their ilk, which Palin seems to be attracting, also hate Cubans and other non-whites, I'm surprised you support her.

Governor Sarah Palin is the governor of the State of Alaska. She deserves respect for that. Their will always be persons who dont like her and persons who do. I will always like her and respect her as a governor. That is my right to do so. Your right not too.Respect needs to be earned. Simply getting elected is not enough, you have to do a decent job. Palin engages in nepotism, which is to say she's lost any of mine. Schwarzenegger, on the other hand, does still maintain some respect from me despite being a Republican.

I disagree with your views, and agree with my views, our right to our views.

Governor Sarah Palin is the governor of the State of Alaska. She deserves respect for that. Their will always be persons who dont like her and persons who do. I will always like her and respect her as a governor. That is my right to do so. Your right not too.

So you think all politicians deserve respect simply for getting elected? Not really a popular view, but whatever. I certainly don't believe we should respect our elected officials simply because they are our elected officials.

I disagree with your views, and agree with my views, our right to our views.Does this mean anything?

I respect and support Alaska Governor Sarah Palin for Vice President and President of the USA, my right to do so, your rights not too.

Does this mean anything?

It means that he'll believe what he wants.

I respect and support Alaska Governor Sarah Palin for Vice President and President of the USA, my right to do so, your rights not too.Yes, it is your right to do so, as it is ours for pointing out that it's an unkind, dishonest, and unreasonable thing to do.

I respect your views as your views. I have my views.

More to the original point: I'm sure a good majority of you have seen this video already, but it's pretty hilarious, and so if you haven't, you probably ought to.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461

Enjoy!

I disagree with your views, and agree with my views, our right to our views.

Sure. But that does not make the views equal.

What makes you think Barack "no options are off the table" Obama will be any better?

For one thing, he's not an elderly man with a bloody stupid vice president. Nor is he bloody stupid.

I'm amazed that 20,000 people turned up to hear her speak. I didn't think (read: hope) there'd be 20,000 people left in the entire USA who would support her now, let alone 20k in Richmond.

Who says they were there to support her? Everybody needs an entertaining day out from time to time...

Who says they were there to support her? Everybody needs an entertaining day out from time to time...I don't know if I'd risk it. It's safer to be entertained from a distance. Maybe if they had some kind of shark cage...

Nothing is worth electing McCain or Obama.

Well aren't you just a little ray of sunshine.

No one. I don't believe in voting.

If you'll just hand me your All Credibility card--check your pockets, I believe it's green--we can make this a quick and painless process.

Nothing is worth electing McCain or Obama.

Well aren't you just a little ray of sunshine.

If you'll just hand me your All Credibility card--check your pockets, I believe it's green--we can make this a quick and painless process.

Possibilities about PAS:

1) It's someone new trying to be "edgy" by playing the worn out "Both Sides Are Corrupt" card.

2) It's FO using a puppet.

3) It's Angry Internet Stalinist using a puppet, although this would require him restraining his pathological urge to spew his Angry Internet Stalinist Rants.

Possibilities about PAS:

3) It's Angry Internet Stalinist using a puppet, although this would require him restraining his pathological urge to spew his Angry Internet Stalinist Rants.

The return of Andaras Prime?!!

Possibilities about PAS:

1) It's someone new trying to be "edgy" by playing the worn out "Both Sides Are Corrupt" card.

2) It's FO using a puppet.

3) It's Angry Internet Stalinist using a puppet, although this would require him restraining his pathological urge to spew his Angry Internet Stalinist Rants.The return of Andaras Prime?!!

Amazingly, all wrong.

Amazingly, all wrong.

Even #1?

Even #1?
Yeah, because it's somebody OLD trying to be "edgy" by playing the worn-out "Both Sides are Corrupt" card...

Or it's just someone who genuinely believes that sort of thing. Like the guys that make South Park.

Or it's just someone who genuinely believes that sort of thing. Like the guys that make South Park.

It's not both sides are corrupt. The truth is, almost everyone is corrupt. it just matters to the extent that they're corrupt.:eek2::D