NationStates Jolt Archive


Is McCain regretting his Faustian deal?

The_pantless_hero
14-10-2008, 00:43
I'm quoting an Op/ed here, but it's just quoting campaign stops and has links.

He let the Bush-Cheney operatives who took over his Republican presidential campaign late in the summer talk him into running a scorched-earth campaign attacking Barack Obama.

But, now that the campaign is fully operational, McCain is shocked and unsettled by what he is hearing from his own supporters.

"I don't trust Obama," a woman at a town hall meeting in Minnesota told McCain. "I have read about him. He's an Arab."

McCain silenced her and said, "No, ma'am. He's a decent, family man, a citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues..."

The crowd booed the Arizona senator's attempt to quiet the hate speech that has become such a major feature of events at which he and his over-the-top running mate, ethically-challenged Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, have appeared in recent days.

When a man in the crowd suggested that he was scared about raising his child in an America led by a President Barack Obama, McCain countered him.

Speaking of Obama, the Republican presidential nominee said: "I have to tell you, he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States."

That may seem rich coming from the man who has "approved this message" of smearing Obama at every turn.

It certainly did not go over well with his backers.

McCain's description of Obama as "decent" drew loud booing from the crowd that had come to hear trash talking -- not the truth.

"If you want a fight, we will fight," McCain continued, trying to calm, his feverish backers. "But we will be respectful. I admire Sen. Obama and his accomplishments."

At that, the mob booed even more loudly.

Here's what it looked like when McCain said he admires Obama.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20081011/cm_thenation/45371267;_ylt=AnTvfxVNkSQIWVaJ61VcKPMe_8QF

Apparently the Faustian deal that McCain made with the team that got Bush elected twice is getting away from him. McCain's campaign is getting so dirty that McCain faces penalty of lynching just for trying to be a decent human being. Looks like it's too late for McCain to buy his soul back from the people that dirtied his name and reputation back in 2000 and now he has to live with this lynch mob and whatever actions result from his campaign inciting it.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
14-10-2008, 01:06
Don't you think that "lynch mob" is just a tad melodramatic?
UN Protectorates
14-10-2008, 01:08
And this is why I can still respect McCain. He's been at odds with his own campaign team and the RNC ever since he became presumptive nominee. I think he was trying to be sincere when he first declared that he wanted a clean campaign at the start of this. It's just a pity that he didn't slam the brakes and turn the car around sooner.

The main problem that faces McCain, that has compromised his personal control over his campaign, is the fact that most of his funding comes from the RNC.

Obama can, has and will deviate from the ideas of senior Democratic leaders, namely because he has enough money from personal donations to be able to do so.
Tmutarakhan
14-10-2008, 01:09
Don't you think that "lynch mob" is just a tad melodramatic?I am more concerned about actual murder attempts now than I was a couple weeks ago.
Zhengri
14-10-2008, 01:15
Who cares, the sooner this nightmare of two years of campaigning is over the better. I would love to see this unrestrained political campaigning limited to a much smaller period, say two months.
Khadgar
14-10-2008, 02:01
Don't you think that "lynch mob" is just a tad melodramatic?

No.
Wilgrove
14-10-2008, 02:14
Wow....I hate to say this, but if this is the kind of people McCain can dig up, if McCain loses, just think what kind of action they may take....

If I was Obama, I would beef up security detail and start wearing a bullet proof vest under his suit.
Non Aligned States
14-10-2008, 02:56
Wow....I hate to say this, but if this is the kind of people McCain can dig up, if McCain loses, just think what kind of action they may take....

If I was Obama, I would beef up security detail and start wearing a bullet proof vest under his suit.

And maybe some body doubles. Bullet proof vests don't much protect your head.
Dakini
14-10-2008, 03:00
I almost feel sorry for McCain.
Ssek
14-10-2008, 03:03
That was good for a laugh, especially the part where some guy said, with his voice actually quivering as if on the verge of tears, "We're scared. We're scared of an Obama presidency." He reminded me how pathetic the racist, xenophobic and bigoted mind-sets really are.
Golugan
14-10-2008, 03:11
Wow....I hate to say this, but if this is the kind of people McCain can dig up, if McCain loses, just think what kind of action they may take....

If I was Obama, I would beef up security detail and start wearing a bullet proof vest under his suit.I wouldn't worry. Most people who blame their problems on minority groups are too lazy to solve their problems themselves. They don't have the initiative to try anything unless prompted by their leadership. With McCain on damage control, I don't see any noteworthy* effort being likely.

*Meaning having a hope of getting past security.
Wilgrove
14-10-2008, 03:14
I wouldn't worry. Most people who blame their problems on minority groups are too lazy to solve their problems themselves. They don't have the initiative to try anything unless prompted by their leadership. With McCain on damage control, I don't see any noteworthy* effort being likely.

*Meaning having a hope of getting past security.

Have we forgotten the JFK shooting? You don't have to get up close and personal. All you need is a high powered sniper rifle and one good clean shot.
Crossman
14-10-2008, 03:16
Don't you think that "lynch mob" is just a tad melodramatic?

Not at all. In fact I'd say it's an understatement.
The_pantless_hero
14-10-2008, 03:17
Don't you think that "lynch mob" is just a tad melodramatic?
When they stop yelling "off with his head," "kill him," and calling black camera men "boy," I will.

Oh, and when they stop booing their own presidential candidate because he corrected complete falsehoods.
Golugan
14-10-2008, 03:29
Have we forgotten the JFK shooting? You don't have to get up close and personal. All you need is a high powered sniper rifle and one good clean shot.And the intelligence and initiative to get into position.
Trotskylvania
14-10-2008, 03:43
This is disturbing on so many levels.
Muravyets
14-10-2008, 03:56
Yes, I do think McCain is regretting it, but not enough and too late -- and too hypcritically. Years ago, McCain himself was the target of the kinds of attacks he has been lobbing against Obama -- disgraceful, lying personal attacks organized by some of the same people McCain then hired to run his current campaign. McCain chose to lie down with dogs, and now he seems upset that he has gotten up with fleas. Screw McCain's regret.
Copiosa Scotia
14-10-2008, 04:15
Not at all. In fact I'd say it's an understatement.

It can't possibly be an understatement. They haven't lynched anybody yet.
Aperture Science
14-10-2008, 04:23
This is disturbing on so many levels.

That there are idiots in the world who think that only their view is the right view and anybody who disagrees is a traitorous jewcommie?
The_pantless_hero
14-10-2008, 04:30
That there are idiots in the world who think that only their view is the right view and anybody who disagrees is a traitorous jewcommie?

That the official McCain campaign is fostering these people's ideas.
Zilam
14-10-2008, 04:31
Wow....I hate to say this, but if this is the kind of people McCain can dig up, if McCain loses, just think what kind of action they may take....

If I was Obama, I would beef up security detail and start wearing a bullet proof vest under his suit.


I was reading somewhere that there are far right groups staging a "coup" should Obama be elected, for "national security" reasons.
Vetalia
14-10-2008, 05:08
I was reading somewhere that there are far right groups staging a "coup" should Obama be elected, for "national security" reasons.

Far right groups stage coups against everybody...it's their thing. Hell, they probably tried to stage one against Bush but failed when they realized all of their supporters were unemployed, on government welfare and utterly disliked by everyone they knew.
Gauthier
14-10-2008, 05:11
That there are idiots in the world who think that only their view is the right view and anybody who disagrees is a traitorous jewcommie?

Anti-Semitism is passé. Nowadays it's muslimcommie.
Vetalia
14-10-2008, 05:14
Anti-Semitism is passé. Nowadays it's muslimcommie.

Is it still scene to hate the Negroid race?
Lunatic Goofballs
14-10-2008, 05:26
I don't think you should be allowed to call yourself a lynch mob until you lynch someone. Until then, you're still just a mob. ...Okay, maybe intent. If you're being chased by a mob trying to lynch you, I guess that's close enough to be called a lynch mob. But I don't think desire is enough.
Trotskylvania
14-10-2008, 07:12
That there are idiots in the world who think that only their view is the right view and anybody who disagrees is a traitorous jewcommie?

As a traitorous jewcommie, yes, that is my concern exactly.
Zombie PotatoHeads
14-10-2008, 07:31
That there are idiots in the world who think that only their view is the right view and anybody who disagrees is a traitorous jewcommie?

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8384/communazi4slqn6.gif
Knights of Liberty
14-10-2008, 07:32
Yes, I do think McCain is regretting it, but not enough and too late -- and too hypcritically. Years ago, McCain himself was the target of the kinds of attacks he has been lobbing against Obama -- disgraceful, lying personal attacks organized by some of the same people McCain then hired to run his current campaign. McCain chose to lie down with dogs, and now he seems upset that he has gotten up with fleas. Screw McCain's regret.

If McCain was really disturbed about what he'd created and really was putting "country first" hed concede.


Oh, and the guy crying because he was afraid of Obama? I drank his tears like whine. Sweet, sweet whine.


Mmmmm tears of irrational fear and unfathomable sadness.
Redwulf
14-10-2008, 07:36
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8384/communazi4slqn6.gif

Hmmm. Someone needs to use that for a secret society in Paranoia . . .
Redwulf
14-10-2008, 07:38
If McCain was really disturbed about what he'd created and really was putting "country first" hed concede.


Oh, and the guy crying because he was afraid of Obama? I drank his tears like whine. Sweet, sweet whine.


Intentional misspelling or Freudian slip?
Forensatha
14-10-2008, 07:41
Personally, I find this amusing. McCain was warned what would happen if he signed in with those people. Now that he's damned himself and those few who honestly still follow him and are not just looking for whatever leader will pander to a bigotted crowd, it will be interesting to see his reaction when he realizes just how cheap he sold his soul and the fact he must choose between pride and salvation.

In either case, his political career is probably over.
Maineiacs
14-10-2008, 10:46
I am more concerned about actual murder attempts now than I was a couple weeks ago.

As am I. I will say that so far, the "he's a terrorist, kill him!" crap from (some of) McCain's supporters hasn't had nearly the disastrous effect I had feared it would. So far, it doesn't seem to have played well with Independents. After how effectively fear mongering played in '04, I was sure it would again. But it looks as if my concern that Obama had been effectively "swift boated" may have been ungrounded. I hope that proves to be the case.

Nonetheless, I still fear for his safety. Assassinations don't necessarily require a conspiracy, just one lone nut.
Cameroi
14-10-2008, 11:00
i think what mccain is doing, by making sure no one in their right mind will ever vote for him, is giving us a chance to see, with this next election, if our votes will be counted at all, or if corporate economic intrests have so completely usurped that process, that the're just letting us pretend to have a voice to keep us from finding some way of throwing them out entirely.