Should both candidates concede to Al Gore?
IL Ruffino
12-10-2008, 12:41
After watching Recount on HBO, I feel that Al Gore actually won the 2000 election, and that Katherine Harris is both annoying and ugly.
Should we, as a country with great democracy ideals, elect Gore as president for a few years?
I, for one, welcome our new old President Elect.
This is common knowledge. Gore did decidedly win the popular vote even not counting that recount wash. I'm not convinced Bush won in 2004 either but I'll take it with a grain of salt. Doesn't matter now.
IL Ruffino
12-10-2008, 12:46
This is common knowledge. Gore did decidedly win the popular vote even not counting that recount wash. I'm not convinced Bush won in 2004 either but I'll take it with a grain of salt. Doesn't matter now.
If we're going to apologize for slavery, we should apologize to Al Gore, too.
Lunatic Goofballs
12-10-2008, 12:49
Is a Nobel Peace Prize not enough?
They don't give those out to just anybody you know.
*picks teeth with Nobel Peace Prize*
The only thing I blame Gore for was running for president after being VP in a white house where the pres got a bj. Not that it matters much, in addition to the bj, I think any Democrat would have lost to GWB with the narcissistic public projecting their dumb ass on a candidate.
Cabra West
12-10-2008, 12:57
The only thing I blame Gore for was running for president after being VP in a white house where the pres got a bj. Not that it matters much, in addition to the bj, I think any Democrat would have lost to GWB with the narcissistic public projecting their dumb ass on a candidate.
... and poor Al never got a BJ for himself out of it. Makes you sad, doesn't it?
Hurdegaryp
12-10-2008, 13:01
Or several extended vacations, even.
Lunatic Goofballs
12-10-2008, 13:08
I got a better idea anyway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nubJR5bLOf0
... and poor Al never got a BJ for himself out of it. Makes you sad, doesn't it?
Never know, maybe he did. But because he was VP nobody cared.
Wilgrove
12-10-2008, 13:24
I dunno, if he got a BJ, then he wouldn't be so stiffed....
Zombie PotatoHeads
12-10-2008, 15:08
The only thing I blame Gore for was running for president after being VP in a white house where the pres got a bj. Not that it matters much, in addition to the bj, I think any Democrat would have lost to GWB with the narcissistic public projecting their dumb ass on a candidate.
it wasn't that. Gore came across as too stuffy and uptight for the US public and when he did try to loosen up (eg that french kiss on his wife at the convention) it just came across as contrived and a little disturbing.
Also he tried to get elected on his own merits, and didn't let Bill in to help him until it was too late. I think had he gotten Bill's support earlier he would have won the EV comfortably. Bill, despite the BJ thang, was still at the height of his popularity and ability to control and enthuse a crowd.
I think they were labouring for too long under the impression he'd be a shoe-in and GWB didn't have much of a hope. Misunderestimating Bush (or rather Rove) cost them dearly in the end.
Gore also suffered from being too intelligent, and so it was easy for the GOP smear machine to paint him as an ivory tower elitist who knew nor cared nothing about the average man in the street.
It didn't help with the whole 'invented the internet' gaffe that was blown way out of proportion.
Adunabar
12-10-2008, 15:10
Would Gore have bothered with this Global Warming bullshit if he'd rightfully got into the White House?
CthulhuFhtagn
12-10-2008, 17:09
He's been talking about it for twenty freakin' years.
Dragontide
12-10-2008, 17:40
Would Gore have bothered with this Global Warming bullshit if he'd rightfully got into the White House?
Well since he is not in bed will oil companies like W ..... YES!!! Fixing global warming is not that hard. The electric car was invented over 100 years ago. A windmill is just a stick in the ground with blades on top.(but can do the same as fossil fuels, coal, even a nuke plant) It will be harder now because the economy is trashed. Would the economy have been better with Al Gore? Well is was working damm good during the Clinton-Gore years!
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
And if we had the windmills, electric cars solar and all that now, all of our current energy bills would be much cheaper.
Vampire Knight Zero
12-10-2008, 17:44
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/ljn7879/optimus-prime-for-president.jpg
it wasn't that. Gore came across as too stuffy and uptight for the US public and when he did try to loosen up (eg that french kiss on his wife at the convention) it just came across as contrived and a little disturbing.
Also he tried to get elected on his own merits, and didn't let Bill in to help him until it was too late. I think had he gotten Bill's support earlier he would have won the EV comfortably. Bill, despite the BJ thang, was still at the height of his popularity and ability to control and enthuse a crowd.
I think they were labouring for too long under the impression he'd be a shoe-in and GWB didn't have much of a hope. Misunderestimating Bush (or rather Rove) cost them dearly in the end.
Gore also suffered from being too intelligent, and so it was easy for the GOP smear machine to paint him as an ivory tower elitist who knew nor cared nothing about the average man in the street.
It didn't help with the whole 'invented the internet' gaffe that was blown way out of proportion.
I think you contradicted yourself a bit in saying it's not what I said but Rove tactics. That's more or less the same thing I said. Presenting GWB as "a guy you want to have a beer with" to truckers, and not as the reality of "an entitled mediocre person", and/or 'too naive to be dishonest' -- the joke was on them. I don't agree that Bill Clinton's behavior didn't contribute to turning off voters to Democrats no matter how idiotic the other candidate obviously was. Fundies for example, they all aligned against Clinton, and Gore by association. Back then it was called Starr tactics, and it worked.
Flying weasals
12-10-2008, 20:16
personally i think if all votes had actually been counted, not destroyed by Bender whilst trying to find fry, or by a few corrupt republican politicians and there voting machines, Gore would have won and the us would have continued to have a sane government after Clinton
Andaluciae
12-10-2008, 20:20
He should have run this year...but...alas.
DeepcreekXC
12-10-2008, 20:37
Has anybody noticed that the poll at the beginning of this thread adds up to 200%. The maker of this thread is a moron.
Knights of Liberty
12-10-2008, 20:38
Has anybody noticed that the poll at the beginning of this thread adds up to 200%. The maker of this thread is a moron.
Thats because in this poll we can vote for more then one option.
The maker of the quoted post is obviously a moron.
Andaluciae
12-10-2008, 20:39
Has anybody noticed that the poll at the beginning of this thread adds up to 200%. The maker of this thread is a moron.
Each percentage represents the number of people who voted for that option, out of all the people that voted. Given that this is a four-option, no choice restrictions poll, it actually makes sense.
Ashmoria
12-10-2008, 20:54
barrack obama was 8 years old when gore did his thing. he should not have to pay now for what happened then!
New Ziedrich
12-10-2008, 21:32
I am appalled that the poll lacks an "Emperor of the Moon" option.
Tmutarakhan
13-10-2008, 21:10
Thats because in this poll we can vote for more then one option.
He's the rightful President, AND a cheese dip!
I thoroughly believe that Bush lost in 2000, and probably in 2004 as well. However, the fact that approximately half the voters (whether it was a little less than, or a little more than, half hardly matters) actually thought that Dubya was an acceptable choice for President (twice, even!) is, in itself, an indictment of Americans; and the fact that the other half let him get away with it all is an even worse indictment.
No, they should concede to A Bush Cheney Administration...................not really