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Who is your favourite villian? So many choices.

Needs to be all of the above option.
But in order of favorite:
Venom(in comics/video games/tv)
Magneto(in comics/video games/movies)
Darth Vader(in movies/video games)
Agent smith
The Joker(in the black knight, rest of the movies he sucks)

Joker. And not just because of the most recent incarnation. Loved him for a while.

The Joker-both The Dark Knight or Tim Burton's version.

Darth Vader-Star Wars

Emperor Palpatine-Star Wars

Macbeth-Shakespear's Macbeth

Gollum-The Lord of the Rings

The Nazgul-The Lord of the Rings

Magneto-X-men

Captain Barbosa-Pirates of the Caribean

Davy Jones-Pirates of the Caribean

Denethor-The Lord of the Rings

Batman-The Dark Knight (I kind of see him as a villain, if a well-intentioned one)

Jigsaw and Agent Smith for me.

I voted Darth Vader because I grew up with him as the consummate villain, but really-it's Iago.

I voted Darth Vader because I grew up with him as the consummate villain, but really-it's Iago.

The bird from the Disney movie?:p


No, I gotta agree. I've never seen a character that is so purely evil. I'm the guy who can always find a reason to feel bad for the bad guy, and I can't do that with Iago.

My fav villain will have to be Munra, from Thunder Cats. That mummy kicks cat butt.:p

Here's another question. Do you like heroes or villains more? I've always found the relationship between the two interesting. I also tend to understand where the villain is coming from more so, for whatever reason.

Mine's Dr.Doom from the fantastic four. Diplomatic immunity is the best superpower I can think of.

Here's another question. Do you like heroes or villains more? I've always found the relationship between the two interesting. I also tend to understand where the villain is coming from more so, for whatever reason.

Villians. Even the heros I like have a dark side in them (Batman, for example, tends to be much darker than the other traditional superheros).

I tend to get irritated with a hero that doesn't have a dark aspect.

Darth Vader - It's the cape, you understand, the sexy black cape. I still have trouble thinking of him as Anakin Skywalker (such a simp).

For humor:
The bad guy from Waterworld.
Come on, that dude was awesome.

For Just Plain Being Evil:
Gargoyle from Nadia: Secret of the Blue Water
It was nice to see a villian who was not only willing to kill old men and women, but children. And their dogs.
You don't often get somebody that evil these days.

For Clinical Evil:
GLADoS from Portal.
The poor Companion Cube :(

For Hugest Villian:
The final Space Monster from Diebuster.
It was bigger than Earth.

Honorable mention:
The Anti-Spiral from Gurren Lagann. Technically he wasn't that big, but apparently he had one of the two largest mechs in any anime ever, since Gainax recently 'revealed' that they were 'ten million lightyears tall'. Go figure.

For Sheer Badassery:
Vader. I mean the REAL Vader. Not Lucases emo-vader who only turned to evil because he didn't get enough hugs.
The guy killed MILLIONS, maybe billions. And he did it all while looking fabulous in black.

Most Tragic:
I hate throwing in too many animes, but Yotou from Soul Eater. Poor guy.

Honorable mention:
Anakin Skywalker. Mostly because of what Lucas did to him.

Tough to say, but just because I really like him, and I haven't seen him mentioned yet...

Angelus, whenever he pops up.
I mean, damn.

In all categories that I care about:

1. Dr. Evil

2. Dr. Horrible

3. A. Shekelgrupper


The second place belongs to Dr.Horrible, but can be contested by E.Cartman as he grows up. But since this poll, obviously due to a discriminatory bias, fails to include A.Shekelgrupper and all villains with a Doctorate degree from the Evil University of Evil, I had to place the vote for E.Cartman. Note he's only the fourth, though.

Joker. And not just because of the most recent incarnation. Loved him for a while.

Exactly. In fact, I haven't seen the Heath Ledger version yet.

Am I the only one who appericates John Kramer (the original Jigsaw) genius mind, and how not only does he have several games running at one time. (SAW III and IV were running at the same time), but he's also able to have a back up plan, another back up plan, and probably a third back up plan!

Am I the only one who appericates John Kramer (the original Jigsaw) genius mind, and how not only does he have several games running at one time. (SAW III and IV were running at the same time), but he's also able to have a back up plan, another back up plan, and probably a third back up plan!

Yes. You are the only one. :eek::tongue::wink:

Okay, I can vote for Eric Cartman. However, how can you dispute that Dr. Horrible is the greatest villain of all time?

Tough to say, but just because I really like him, and I haven't seen him mentioned yet...

Angelus, whenever he pops up.
I mean, damn.

Uh huh. I always thought he was so very.

And Kevin from Sin City. The guy gave me nightmares.

Yes. You are the only one. :eek::tongue::wink:

I dunno, if John Kramer was a real person, and he was in prison. I would actually want to talk to him and pick his brain. I'd want to know how he can set the games up so that he slightly guides them in the direction he wants them to go in, but doesn't make it too obvious. I could spend hours picking his brain.

Kkhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly. In fact, I haven't seen the Heath Ledger version yet.

I won't lie...I do love the Heath Ledger version, and it is one of my favorites, but it isn't the only reason I love the character.

Okay, I can vote for Eric Cartman. However, how can you dispute that Dr. Horrible is the greatest villain of all time?

Dr. Horrible IS pretty awesome. Good singer, too. :)

Ba'al.

Definitely a Magnificent Bastard (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagnificentBastard) in my opinion.

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For most evil, it would be Joker and Kefka (Final Fantasy VI). They're clowns that kill for the sake of killing.

The Joker is unique among Batman villains. He's the only one who truly does evil for the sake of evil. All the others have motivations, whether it be revenge or getting the attention they crave (why else would the Riddler leave clues) or money etc. The Joker cares not for those things. He kills only because he feels like killing. He robs just to rob. He's not greedy or jealous or anything like that. He's just...EEEEEVVIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!

Kefka's also evil. He's cowardly, homocidal, and he's treasonous. He seeks only to attain the godlike powers he needs to kill off all of humanity. He's more than willing to poison an entire nation. And unlike the vast majority of villains, he gets almost everything he ever wanted. He got rid of his superiors (General Leo and the emperor), became a god. and physically changed the entire world, killing millions, possibly billions, in the process. The only thing he failed to do was end all life on earth, but he got close.

What's not to fear from these guys? They're evil. They're homocidal. The Joker is unpredictable and Kefka wants you dead only because you're not dead yet. Plus, they're clowns. What's scarier than clowns? Nothing. You might tell me that Satan, death, public speaking, and Canada are scarier, but they're not. They're not scarier than clowns because they ARE clowns. Especially Canada.

Also, Ridley (Metroid series) kicks ass. He might not be a crazy clown like the Joker or Kefka, but he's pure awesome. He's a space dragon thing who's uber-powerful and commands thousands, maybe even millions or billions, of space pirates. And a few of those pirates are also ninjas. The only thing that can stop him is some chick clad in armor built by the Chozo, a race of bird people that disappeared for some reason. Stupid Canadian clowns must have scared them off. Can't blame them from running from Canadian clowns though.

Johnny Dollar from Green Hornet comic books.

If you haven't read Alan Moore's The Killing Joke (http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/graphic_novels/?gn=1282), you should. A tale told by the Joker that cracks even Batman up:

See, there were these two guys in a lunatic asylum
...
and one night... one night they decide they don't like living in an asylum any more. They decide they’re going to escape!

So like they get up on to the roof, and there, just across the narrow gap, they see the rooftops of the town, stretching away in moon light... stretching away to freedom....

Now the first guy he jumps right across with no problem. But his friend, his friend daren't make the leap. Y'see he's afraid of falling...

So then the first guy has an idea. He says "Hey! I have my flash light with me. I will shine it across the gap between the buildings. You can walk across the beam and join me."

But, the second guy just shakes his head. He says... he says "What do you think I am, crazy?"

"You would turn it off when I was half way across."

Also, illustrative of The Joker's evil genius is Arkham Asylum (http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/graphic_novels/?gn=1228).

Also, illustrative of The Joker's evil genius is Arkham Asylum (http://www.dccomics.com/dcu/graphic_novels/?gn=1228).

And as of Game Informer, it's being made into a Bioshock style adventure.

Angelus, whenever he pops up.
I mean, damn.
Have to agree. He knew the art of breaking the human, and how to bring the suffering to the limit. And, at least, he was neither just indiscriminate about the means nor outright insane, but rather always believable.


The Joker is unique among Batman villains. He's the only one who truly does evil for the sake of evil. All the others have motivations, whether it be revenge or getting the attention they crave (why else would the Riddler leave clues) or money etc.
The problem with Joker is that he always ends up defeated... Angelus, for instance, was never defeated. For 150 years while he was himself, and even later he wasn't gone.

Pinhead, as much for Doug Bradley's voice and the contact lenses (or whatever it is they did to give him those cold, empty eyes). Unfortunately, he started declining as the movies moved further from the original story, and he went from this completely alien thing with a code and reasons that make no human sense, to a stand in for Satan.

Kane from Command and Conquer (why won't he die!?), and the C-Consciousness from STALKER for pure creepiness.

Ah, Clarice - Hannibal Lecter, for creepiness and realism.

Would have to be The Daleks from Doctor Who for me,utterly without all emotions.Just the ultimate killing race.

(spoiler alert)

Joker has to be high on the list. He's brilliantly portrayed by Ledger, but also really well written. I never remember the exact quotes, but their really good. Like during his final confrontation with Batman.





"This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. You won't kill me out of some miss-placed sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you because, you're just too much fun.

I think you and I are destined to do this forever."

Vader. I mean the REAL Vader. Not Lucases emo-vader who only turned to evil because he didn't get enough hugs.There's nothing wrong with Anakin's portrayal. Think about it. Who is more likely to sacrifice the Galaxy and everything he's ever believed him to what he knows is nothing short of pure evil, all because he had a weird, unverifiable dream? A Badass
An Emofag?

The badass simply doesn't do it. The badass kills Palpatine, tells the monastery Jedi to get a grip, marries his love, and spends his free time fighting evil.

Also, Desty Nova (Gunnm/ Battle Angel Alita (Last Order)). I wont list the reasons, that'd spoil it. Just read it.

Xanatos. Lex Luthor doesn't hold a candle to this guy.

For Clinical Evil:
GLADoS from Portal.
The poor Companion Cube :(

I'm making a note here: Huge success.

Portal was an awesome game, and GLADoS was a very suitably psychotic villain(ess).

Why is Magneto up there but not Apocalypse?

Magneto is the sexiest and one of the most powerful villains in the MARVEL universe.

In Tolkien's world, I'd count Morgoth as the worst villain (pre-LOTR by millenia, Sauron was his lackey).

Angelus is hunky but that's about it. He and the Joker would probably get along well, though...

Sorry, but I found Anakin Skywalker either self-pitying, or stupid, or both. Vader was a huge improvement.

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Magneto is the sexiest and one of the most powerful villains in the MARVEL universe.

In Tolkien's world, I'd count Morgoth as the worst villain (pre-LOTR by millenia, Sauron was his lackey).

Angelus is hunky but that's about it. He and the Joker would probably get along well, though...

Sorry, but I found Anakin Skywalker either self-pitying, or stupid, or both. Vader was a huge improvement.

Magenta. Hurts my eyes.

Mr Hyde

Magenta. Hurts my eyes.



Regrets. Is this better?

Sergeant Obadiah Hakeswill for being indestructable

None of those mentioned on the poll. Write-in vote for Jesus. If it weren't for him, there'd be no Christianity, and we would all be FREE. Or more probably subjected to another religion's absurd moralities. Meh

women.

Well I love the Joker for his insanity, although I think Deadpool is high up for sheer fourth-wall breaking fun.

However in terms of great magnificent bastards, Ozymandias gets my vote.

"What do you mean, do it? Do you really think I'd tell you all about my plans if you had any chances at all of affecting the outcome? I did it 34 minutes ago"

For Sheer Badassery:
Vader. I mean the REAL Vader. Not Lucases emo-vader who only turned to evil because he didn't get enough hugs.

REAL Vader: "Look! Your mother's 'gina is bigger than the hole I've just blown into your planet, all because of my huge nigga cock!"

On the actual film: "看 由于我巨大的黑阴茎您的母亲阴道大于在您的行星的孔"

Lucas translates back: "Luke, I am your father."

D-FENS from Falling Down.

Gotta love Michael Douglas.

Sin.

Sin.

Almost the same as mine. I think the Sine function is a major villain. Why? Just Cos.

Sarah Palin currently tops my list for favorite villianess simply because she is so damn funny!

women.

ROFL! 10!

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None of those mentioned on the poll. Write-in vote for Jesus. If it weren't for him, there'd be no Christianity, and we would all be FREE. Or more probably subjected to another religion's absurd moralities. Meh

Yeah, Islam's so much better. :rolleyes:

However in terms of great magnificent bastards, Ozymandias gets my vote.

"What do you mean, do it? Do you really think I'd tell you all about my plans if you had any chances at all of affecting the outcome? I did it 34 minutes ago"
One of the best lines in any graphic novel ever. I literally applauded first time I read that!

Yeah, Islam's so much better. :rolleyes:

Yup, its da bomb:p

No but seriously. Thinking about it, God (if He exists) is the greatest villain, for not making it absolutely clear which religion is right. Being all-knowing, He would have known that people would use religious disputes for oppressive purposes and to justify war, and that things would be better if He didn't make His presence known. The fact that a God who won't intervene to stop famine will intervene to present himself to various different people at different times and encourage them to form rival religions, all of which advocate in some way fighting for the "true religion" against non-believers, makes Him look a rather evil holy bastard in my eyes.

Whatever happened to Sephiroth? I mean the original FF7 Sephiroth before Crisis Core and Advent Children where they kind of wussed him out. That guy was one badass and didn't need an excuse to do whatever the hell he wanted.

He carried a sword bigger than most of you, and wielded it one-handed. He had the gray hair, the faceless expression, barely spoke, and inspired fear everywhere he went.

Also, he was left-handed.

Whatever happened to Sephiroth? I mean the original FF7 Sephiroth before Crisis Core and Advent Children where they kind of wussed him out. That guy was one badass and didn't need an excuse to do whatever the hell he wanted.

He carried a sword bigger than most of you, and wielded it one-handed. He had the gray hair, the faceless expression, barely spoke, and inspired fear everywhere he went.

Also, he was left-handed.

Because it would be technically incorrect to call Sephiroth the villain of FF7.

Because it would be technically incorrect to call Sephiroth the villain of FF7.

Well, he did try to hit the planet with a giant asteroid and was killed by the main hero. That makes him close enough to be a villain in my mind, the fact that he was doing it for his own reasons and was not entirely malicious within himself notwithstanding.

Darth Vader all the way.

While the Joker must recieve his props-I mean, he's been a top 10 villain for almost 75 years, with as many different people telling his stories, my favorite villain is still Servalan, of Blake's Seven. Pure evil in a series of kick-ass outfits, and oddly enough, she walks away from every encounter with either a win or enough of what she wants to count it as a win.
Honorable mention to Mona DeMarkov of Romeo is Bleeding.
Thanos was pretty vile under the original Starlin run, ending with his getting turned to stone, but he had a few moments later on with his resurrection.
Stan Lee's handling of the Green Goblin was fairly good, though bringing him back was probably a mistake. His death after the murder of Gwen Stacy was one of the great moments on comics.
Mr. Bester, of Babylon 5, had all the trappings, and was certainly chilling in his own right. Really deserved a movie to strut his stuff, though.
The Kurgan of Highlander-one of the greats, really.
John Lone's portrayal of Shiwan Khan in The Shadow was delicious in his evil, and makes me torn between him or Jet Li as the Mandarin in the upcoming Iron Man sequel.
The Emperor Cartagia, of Babylon 5, was certainly memorable, as was his successor Londo Mollari.
And no list of villains could be complete without Vincent Price's favorite, Maleficent of Sleeping Beauty.

Well, he did try to hit the planet with a giant asteroid and was killed by the main hero. That makes him close enough to be a villain in my mind, the fact that he was doing it for his own reasons and was not entirely malicious within himself notwithstanding.

Yeah, you don't quite know.

SPOILERS: It was all Jenova, projecting the image of Sephiroth. That's why each time you beat him, he vanishes and all that's left is a piece of Jenova.

I think. I might not entirely recall correctly. It's far too complicated.

Feathers McGraw, clearly.

Darth Vader is pretty cool as far as villains go, though I would say the most interesting was Gul Dukat from Star Trek DS9 or Light Yagami from Deathnote (although he was actually the protagonist).

What about Xykon from OOTS? He is one of the best villains ever.

Vader for just pure awesomeness. (forget episodes 1 through 3.)

Most terrifying villains: Iago and Mr. Hyde.*

Why? Because they are depictions of real human personalities/psychologies and reality is always more terrifying than fiction. You could actually meet people like that. :eek2:

(* The most realistic version of Mr. Hyde I've ever seen is in the Frederic March movie version, which is a testament to the script and March's acting, because the Hyde makeup is shitty in that one, but what Hyde does is all too horribly realistic.)

Most fun villains: Dr. Evil and The Monarch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monarch)

Why? Because in every story that features organized villainy, I always believe this is how it really "works." (I also believe Dark Helmet to be a much more believable idea of the "real" Vader than that Anakin loser.)

Personal favorite villains as models for how to do villainy: Aurich Goldfinger, Dr. No, and Ernst Stavro Blofeld.

Why? You need to ask? Solid gold Rolls Royces! Danger level meters! Indoor monorails! Pools of piranhas in the living room! I mean, come on, NSGers, get some class.

Here's another question. Do you like heroes or villains more? I've always found the relationship between the two interesting. I also tend to understand where the villain is coming from more so, for whatever reason.
Villains because the Devil always gets the best lines.

I find villains automatically interesting because I want to know what motivates them to do evil stuff. There is less of a question about why a hero would choose to do good stuff.

I also like heroes who have problematical personalities. In the stories I like to write, I enjoy taking personalities normally associated with villains and casting them in the role of hero. I'm working on one story where, if I'm successful, readers will be as afraid of the hero as they are of the villain.

Johnny Dollar from Green Hornet comic books.

But for a movie, the mad doctor in Hellraiser II.

You guys need to watch more movies.

If you guys want a complex, tragic villian, the best I can think of is William Munny from Unforgiven. You spend the whole movie thinking that you can't get more evil than the sadistic magnificent bastard that is Little Bill Daggett, only for the climax to find him 1) meeting evil incarnate, 2) not realizing until far far too late what he's brought down upon himself, and 3) watching Munny's Crowning Moment of Awesome, and just being aghast at the disappearance of the good man that, it turns out, never really existed.

For pure Nightmare fuel, I nominate Judge Doom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-LxbMM-Vyc). I won't even link the scene where he first demonstrates the effectiveness of the dip on toons; it's too horrible.

I picked Magneto. Not only is he very powerful with dozens of ways to take down his opponents, but one can debate whether or not he IS a villian. There are a whole bunch of mutants who would call him a hero.

1. Servelan from Blake's Seven (a British sci fi series from the 80's) She was wicked and sizzlingly hot.
2. Captain Hook from J.M. Barrie's "Peter Pan" - a thoroughly delightful very English cad and bounder who desperately wanted to prove that Peter Pan "had bad form".
3. Saruman from Lord of the Rings. Sauron was an abstraction of evil. Saruman was the personification of it - treacherous.
In real life? Has to be Hitler. Here's a Glen Miller song aboout him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqXgB6wOSQM

You guys need to watch more movies.

If you guys want a complex, tragic villian, the best I can think of is William Munny from Unforgiven. You spend the whole movie thinking that you can't get more evil than the sadistic magnificent bastard that is Little Bill Daggett.

It was a TV show, not a movie (Deadwood) but the real life, most complete bastard of the old west was George Hurst.

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Deathstroke

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Darkseid

Hannibal Lecter.

Grand Admiral Thrawn.

Six pages? Really? Thrawn should've been in the first reply.

Darth Vader (After he started taking his anti-angst medicine and before he went goody-two shoes on us)
Agent Smith (Pure Awesomeness... And a snazzy suit!)
Wesker (Resident Evil)
Stalin (OH NOEZ! A REAL LIFE VILLIAN!)
The Anti-Yahtzee (*gasp*)
And lastly: Arthas (W00t!)

Grand Admiral Thrawn.

Six pages? Really? Thrawn should've been in the first reply.

Thrawn's pretty good. He's just not as well-known an icon as say, Vader or the Joker.

Plus their are quite a few strange people who don't think of him as a villain.;)

Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men.

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Auric Goldfinger

Angelo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_(Shakespeare)) makes for a great villain...not in the purely evil fashion that villains seem to come in these days, but as a more complex character. His flaws are in his character, he is as much of a hypocrite as he is rigid and authoritarian. He is fundamentally cold, and willing to abandon his "love" if for no other reason than the fact that her dowry was lost in a shipwreck.

His moral corruption is not only limited to himself, though, he seeks to spread his moral corruption to the innocent and good, and uses blackmail to attempt to do precisely that.

Really, I voted Vader, but there are equally cool ones in their. Like Joker and Magneto. In fact, it was a tie between Magneto and Vader for me. And Im talking comic book Magneto. All though Sir Ian does an excellent job as Magneto in the movies, those movies still suck.

Smith was cool in the first matrix. They ruined him after that. And I disagree with Cartman being a villian. :p

Auric Goldfinger

If Thrawn wasn't such a magnificent bastard, I'd have probably said this.

If Thrawn wasn't such a magnificent bastard, I'd have probably said this.Thrawn wasn't played by a Nazi.

Thrawn wasn't played by a Nazi.

Holy hell, I just looked it up. Apparently he helped hide some Jews from the Gestapo, too. Learn something new every day, I guess.

The bird from the Disney movie?:p


No, I gotta agree. I've never seen a character that is so purely evil. I'm the guy who can always find a reason to feel bad for the bad guy, and I can't do that with Iago.

I totally disagree! I think one of the most compelling things about Iago's villainy is that he's such a convoluted and pathetic character.

Probably totally unknown, but one of my favorite villains is Labienus from Kage Baker's The Company series.

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Agent Smith
If not him then Roy Batty from Bladerunner

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Holy hell, I just looked it up. Apparently he helped hide some Jews from the Gestapo, too. Learn something new every day, I guess.Yup. Fröbe was a Nazi, but only by membership. Brilliant at acting out villains, that man was.

I'd say Joker, because he kind of embodies a part of all of us. However, off the list, Grand Admiral Thrawn, from the Heir to the Empire Trilogy. He uses an enemy's artwork to figure there psyche, and thus their strategy. Absolutely brilliant character, and he makes it look so good.

Villains because the Devil always gets the best lines.

Blade with whom I have lived, blade with whom I now die, serve right and justice one last time, seek one more heart of evil, still one last life of pain, cut well old freind, and then... farewell.

I disagree...

Never mind, I just read the rest of the threads.
For seeing him in us, Joker
For being an anti-hero, Riddick
For being a magnificent bastard: Admiral Thrawn
For being a bitch, Professor Umbridge, from Harry Potter. At least Voldemort's honest about bein evil. Umbridge is just a bitch.

Barlow the vampire from Stephen King's 'Salems Lot. His letter to the "heroes" still gives me shivers just thinking about it so far as pure evil is concerned.

Magneto.... comics he was cool... but only in the older series.

Ras Al Ghul is another comic villian that I like.

for television... Murdock from McGuyver. a psychopath who's not above working with his nemisis and honoring his word.

Movies... probably Hannible Lecter from Silence of the Lambs.

Ishamael from Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series.

For being a bitch, Professor Umbridge, from Harry Potter. At least Voldemort's honest about bein evil. Umbridge is just a bitch.

Why didn't I think of that? I hated even reading about her in the books. She just annoyed me so much. Old Voldy, I at least wanted to know more on how hid mind ticked, etc. He was interesting. But Umbridge, I just wanted to smack/punch her in the face.

I disagree...
What kind of hackneyed boring crap was that? A decent villain would have cut that one short. :tongue:

What kind of hackneyed boring crap was that? A decent villain would have cut that one short. :tongue:

Thats from The Flight of Dragons. An Action cartoon from 1986 featuring such talent as James Earl Jones. Sir Smythe was being charged head on by an angry firebreathing dragon that was doing everything in its power to shut him up.

for television... Murdock from McGuyver. a psychopath who's not above working with his nemisis and honoring his word.

Ah, Murdock, I'd forgotten him. *slaps self on wrist*

He was a great villain for many reasons, including because he was played by Michael Des Barre, whose other great claim to fame was being a minor glam rocker who married Jimmie Paige's ex-girlfriend/groupie. It just adds a certain luster.

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Thats from The Flight of Dragons. An Action cartoon from 1986 featuring such talent as James Earl Jones. Sir Smythe was being charged head on by an angry firebreathing dragon that was doing everything in its power to shut him up.
It should have tried harder. *blames dragon*

It should have tried harder. *blames dragon*

SOme of my other favorite hero quotes are from my gaming circle:

"Intersteller Pizza, delivery in 30 light years or less or your money back." - Jedi Guardian Ath'Oin to an Admiral Crawss when asked to state his business in Bespine.

"Its my birthday." - Its an inside joke..

"If you don't shut up I will sick the Paladin on you!" - Cogliostro Delmantos to a captive werewolf prisoner.

*Holds up middle finger.* - Trench (though he was more of an anti-hero)

and finally

"This over here is MY 10%." - Kryt the Dungeoneer.

Crazy Quilt.

The Joker (Heath Ledger)

Villains because the Devil always gets the best lines.

At least in comic books and movies, the villains always seem more id-driven and the heroes more super-ego based. Ignoring the pseudoscientific basis for id and super-ego, I think there is a cathartic effect from watching someone do something bad because that's what they want to do, morals be damned.

Of course, comic book characters are never as interesting are more fleshed out characters in books and movies, who generally are neither perfectly good nor perfectly evil.

SOme of my other favorite hero quotes are from my gaming circle:

"Intersteller Pizza, delivery in 30 light years or less or your money back." - Jedi Guardian Ath'Oin to an Admiral Crawss when asked to state his business in Bespine.

"Its my birthday." - Its an inside joke..

"If you don't shut up I will sick the Paladin on you!" - Cogliostro Delmantos to a captive werewolf prisoner.

*Holds up middle finger.* - Trench (though he was more of an anti-hero)

and finally

"This over here is MY 10%." - Kryt the Dungeoneer.
I'm glad that you have friends, but jokes that I'm sure were hilarious if you happened to be there at the time do not constitute the "good lines" I was referring to.

At least in comic books and movies, the villains always seem more id-driven and the heroes more super-ego based. Ignoring the pseudoscientific basis for id and super-ego, I think there is a cathartic effect from watching someone do something bad because that's what they want to do, morals be damned.

Of course, comic book characters are never as interesting are more fleshed out characters in books and movies, who generally are neither perfectly good nor perfectly evil.
That's one of the reasons I am not a huge fan of comic books.

All my shitty ex girlfreinds..

Muahaha

I'm glad that you have friends, but jokes that I'm sure were hilarious if you happened to be there at the time do not constitute the "good lines" I was referring to.

Errrmmm...

Iron Man and Spider Man are always more witty than hier villians by far.

That's one of the reasons I am not a huge fan of comic books.

They have their place, but they are certainly not the works of art many aficionados make them out to be.

Toss up between Eric Cartman and Rommel.

Cartman for being this fat little 8 year old, that is pure evil, brillilant, and at the same time a complete retard.

Rommel, for being the orginal Magnificent Bastard

Xykon for his moments of pure badassness.

Ozymandias for actually winning.

Light from Death Note for just being interesting.

OOH! And Kefka, for being an evil crazy clown god.

May as well include GLaDOS for being an evil crazy computer... yeah.

Errrmmm...

Iron Man and Spider Man are always more witty than hier villians by far.
Spiderman is one of my favorite heroes. I was never an Iron Man fan.

However, both of those heroes qualify as anti-heroes to a degree because they both exhibit personality traits normally associated with other-than-good characters -- Spiderman's selfish self-interest, and Iron Man's host of problems and disorders.

Spiderman is one of my favorite heroes. I was never an Iron Man fan.

However, both of those heroes qualify as anti-heroes to a degree because they both exhibit personality traits normally associated with other-than-good characters -- Spiderman's selfish self-interest, and Iron Man's host of problems and disorders.

Despite the battery of character flaws they continue to choose good over evil every time. They choose self sacrifice so that the many can be safe while they themselves suffer undully. Along with Batman that is what makes Iron Man and Spider Man heroes.

Anti-Heros exhibit the characteristics of villians and follow thier own agenda.. doing things for the benefit or detriment of humanity at will. They don't care what consequences or benefits thier actions bestow upon anyone else. Riddick is an Anti-Hero, John Wayne in 'The Searchers' is an anti-hero.

They have their place, but they are certainly not the works of art many aficionados make them out to be.

What!? Comic books are flippin fantastic.

All my shitty ex girlfreinds..

Muahaha

If you've had numerous ex-girlfriends and they're all shitty to you, maybe it's not them?

:D

Who is your favourite villian? So many choices.

America.

What!? Comic books are flippin fantastic.

Seriously.

*beats sense into comic book haters with a stack of AoA-era X-Men*

what, no sephiroth?

Poll fails.

3rd place (http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/KevinGilvear/tmnt3.jpg)
2nd place (http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Unicron+Destroys+Planet.bmp.jpg)
1st place (http://valar.game-host.org/varda/gallery/DwalinTV/FingolfinvsMorgoth.jpg)

Tweety Pie
Road Runner
Donald Rumsfeld
The killer from the original Dutch version of the Vanishing.

Who is your favourite villian? So many choices.

I'm torn between Davy Jones (http://lh3.ggpht.com/_4T-H6yvFsIY/R5KfrtB-2wI/AAAAAAAAAEo/H_8sE3zVl1s/6894696_m.jpg),the ultimate sub-subversive of co-opted rebellion turned to farcical egotism, and Agent Smith (http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/57/37/0000035737_20061114171416.jpg) the ultimate conservative champion of cultural stagnation.

They have their place, but they are certainly not the works of art many aficionados make them out to be.

You can't judge the medium by the most well known examples of it. Rap is Immortal Technique every bit as much as it is Snoop Dog. Film is Un Coeur en Hiver every bit as much as it is Live Free or Die Hard. And comic books are Road to Perdition every bit as much as they are X-men.

If you only gauge the comics and The Dark Knight, then the Joker all the way.

Other than that, it's Kaiser Soze from The Ususal Suspects.

Why does no one like Kain? :(

Despite the battery of character flaws they continue to choose good over evil every time. They choose self sacrifice so that the many can be safe while they themselves suffer undully. Along with Batman that is what makes Iron Man and Spider Man heroes.

Anti-Heros exhibit the characteristics of villians and follow thier own agenda.. doing things for the benefit or detriment of humanity at will. They don't care what consequences or benefits thier actions bestow upon anyone else. Riddick is an Anti-Hero, John Wayne in 'The Searchers' is an anti-hero.
Excuse me, but both Riddick and John Wayne's character chose to do the right thing for the sake of others at the end of their stories (and really, throughout their stories there was little doubt that they would make that choice ultimately). They were heroes, not just self-centered people doing whatever they wanted. An anti-hero is still a hero.

And if you read my earlier posts you will see that I said that I prefer conflicted/problematical characters who exhibit personality traits classically associated with villains but who are cast in the role of hero. That is why I like Spiderman. His venal self-interest could much more easily have been applied to a villain character, but it is more challenging to have a character with such a trait still choose to do the right thing in a story, even at his own expense. That is what makes him interesting.

Ah, Murdock, I'd forgotten him. *slaps self on wrist*

He was a great villain for many reasons, including because he was played by Michael Des Barre, whose other great claim to fame was being a minor glam rocker who married Jimmie Paige's ex-girlfriend/groupie. It just adds a certain luster.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0220735/bio

He was one of the best Nemises type characters around.

McGuyver: "We need to get that door open somehow..."
Murdock: "How about this?"
McGuyver: "I thought I told you..."
Murdock: "You said NO GUNS... nothing about hand grenades!"


Note from Murdock to McGuyver (from memory): "... While I did promise you I would turn myself in... I never said anything about them actually holding on to me..."

I can't believe no one has agreed with me yet. Look at how menacing he is!

http://penguingeek.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/feathersgun.jpg

Donald Rumsfeld

Win.

:D

One of my favorite villains: Zod. Especially the recent rendition done by Richard Donner in the run "Superman: Last Son." He kept all the cool pathological bastard-ness that Stamp brought to the film version, but he started out with lofty goals. His transference into an egotistical and maniacal warlord was very well done.

He was one of the best Nemises type characters around.

McGuyver: "We need to get that door open somehow..."
Murdock: "How about this?"
McGuyver: "I thought I told you..."
Murdock: "You said NO GUNS... nothing about hand grenades!"


Note from Murdock to McGuyver (from memory): "... While I did promise you I would turn myself in... I never said anything about them actually holding on to me..."
Another from memory:

Murdock, posing as leader of some tinpot dictator's army and all dressed up in full dress uniform, has captured MacGuyver who is dressed in plain old combat camo.

Murdock to MacGuyver: "I see the military look is in this year. Of course, I have better accessories."

I can't believe no one has agreed with me yet. Look at how menacing he is!

http://penguingeek.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/feathersgun.jpg
Yes, yes, he's very intimidating. *pats Poli on head*

George W. Bush.

*runs*

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. :p)

I'll have to go with Desty Nova from GUNNM.

villans are superfilous. ignorance is suffecient to account for most real harm. ignorance of the mechanism by which we all contribute to the incentives that exist being what they are.

even puppet masters are motivated by something, and that something is created by all of us.