Real life nation experiment (What do you think)?
Edwards Street
10-10-2008, 17:46
I know there are a few anarchists in this site (I'm not one of them) that might find this idea interesting: What if someone took a real nation (or a region of a nation), disbanded the government, and invited anarchists to move in, then this new nation would be split into 2 nations, 1 anarcho-capitalist, the other anarcho-communist? Would it prove that an anarchist society truly could work, or that anarchism is a severally flawed politcal philosophy? Would you like to see how 2 nations like this would work? I would like to hear from people of all political persuasions about this.
Lunatic Goofballs
10-10-2008, 17:48
There's only one flaw:
People.
Dumb Ideologies
10-10-2008, 17:50
The anarcho-capitalist one would become richer and stronger than the anarcho-communist, then invade and take over. Without government regulation, business would then exploit all other citizens in both communities, providing insufficient monies to look after the needy, leading to mass poverty and death.
Edwards Street
10-10-2008, 17:50
There's only one flaw:
People.
So true...... Any philosophy that thinks that people are inherently good has a major problem
Vampire Knight Zero
10-10-2008, 17:50
No matter the goverment, there are people out there that will screw it up.
Peepelonia
10-10-2008, 17:53
I'm not sure that Anarchy is a flawed system at all. In fact I'm positive that over the course of a few more milenia human kind will inevitably drift that way.
Lunatic Goofballs
10-10-2008, 17:55
So true...... Any philosophy that thinks that people are inherently good has a major problem
More to the point, any philosophy that relies on everyone(or mostly everyone) to overcome their base natures have a major problem.
Edwards Street
10-10-2008, 17:55
I'm not sure that Anarchy is a flawed system at all. In fact I'm positive that over the course of a few more milenia human kind will inevitably drift that way.
I wondered if this thread would draw in some anarchists. Do you think that an experiment like this would prove that an anarchist country would work once and for all?
Bokkiwokki
10-10-2008, 17:59
There would be no anarcho-capitalist or anarcho-communist "state".
They certainly won't adhere to a "political philosophy".
The anarchists will each, individually, decide what's best for them, and act upon that.
This will lead to a level of fragmentation of communities that makes the Caucasus checkerboard "states" look huge.
Peepelonia
10-10-2008, 18:06
I wondered if this thread would draw in some anarchists. Do you think that an experiment like this would prove that an anarchist country would work once and for all?
Perhaps, but I am not an anarchist.
Ashmoria
10-10-2008, 18:07
well gee.
no matter how anarcho the new guys might be, the current non anarchist residents will make any such transition very problematical.
i dont see how it could work.
Edwards Street
10-10-2008, 18:52
Perhaps, but I am not an anarchist.
You just think that anarchism could work, or that it's not all that flawed?
Edwards Street
10-10-2008, 18:53
well gee.
no matter how anarcho the new guys might be, the current non anarchist residents will make any such transition very problematical.
i dont see how it could work.
Ah, true, not everyone would be anarchists, especially the original residents of that area.
Conserative Morality
10-10-2008, 20:19
1. Without any government, the anarcho-capitalists will do everything in their pwoer to screw each other over, or create a government, either way ending the experiment for them.
2. The anarcho-communists will end up hoarding bits here and there, and sooner or later they'll either accept that they cannot run such a system and go to #1, or around half of them will go after the ones that are hoarding food, thus starting a civil war.
Ta-da.
Trotskylvania
10-10-2008, 21:51
If you grant that the significant majority of the people in this geographic area subscribed to either anarcho-capitalist or anarcho-communist philosophy, then I don't see why they couldn't live together peacefully.
Even if the anarcho-capitalists decided to get pushy with their private-defense-agencies that look eerily like state armies, I don't think they'd have the power to take over the leftist anarchists. We tend to believe that everyone should be armed and ready to defend the community from aggression.
There, you got your first forum anarchists opinion on the issue. The obstacle isn't getting the societies to run, it's getting the majority of the people to make a commitment to revolution.
There's only one flaw:
People.
Don't be silly, people aren't a flaw. A person is a flaw, people are flaws.