NationStates Jolt Archive

So the first half of the season is over. I have been doing spontanious backflips for 6 weeks, watching the Alabama Crimson Tide! We are finally back! I think Bama will win the national championship this year.

The internet sensation (Jones) is now an on field sensation!

Son of Tecmo Bowl (Ingram) is practicly unstoppable!

Terrence Cody - aka - Mt Cody - aka - Mt Crushmore is completly unstoppable!

The front lines on both sides have knocked enough opponents flat as a pancake to open their own IHOP!

The QB (Wilson) now holds all season and career records at Alabama (a team with 12 national championships)

And we have a coach that is never satisfied. :D

ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!

Bama is going to pick up at least one loss in the SEC.

Bama is going to pick up at least one loss in the SEC.

There is definatly a guantlet ahead of the Tide. A Houston Nutt team that beat the Heisman trophy winner. (Ole Miss beat Florida) Then Phil Fullmer (Tennessee) the week after that. And Alabama - LSU in November will be a 9.0 on the richter scale, earthquake of a game. But I think Bama can make it through.

88-0 in the first quarter this year. We rule on the road because the other guys fans go home too early! :D

88-0 in the first quarter this year. We rule on the road because the other guys fans go home too early! :D

Like that embarassment in Athens?

Like that embarassment in Athens?

For only the 3rd time in modern history, Georgia wore their black uniforms. The Tide had them shook up before they even flipped the coin! :tongue:

For only the 3rd time in modern history, Georgia wore their black uniforms. The Tide had them shook up before they even flipped the coin! :tongue:

Alabama clearly had Georgia on tilt before the game. The wearing of the black uniforms just gave the Tide the advantage because it showed them that Georgia was scared enough that they felt they had to parade out some sort of gimmick to get psyched up for Alabama.

I hate the SEC, but Alabama is looking real pro this year. I'm thinking Alabama-Penn State for a real old school title game.

I think Penn St gets the screw this year. 3 or 4 unbeated teams and only 2 invited to the dance. But it would be awsome to revive the Alabama - Penn St bowl rivalry. (especially since Joe has the Bear's old record of games won)

Like that embarassment in Athens?

Ack, that was just embarrassing.

I had a student ticket to that game, but I sold it.
I think I certainly made the correct choice there. :tongue:

I think Penn St gets the screw this year. 3 or 4 unbeated teams and only 2 invited to the dance. But it would be awsome to revive the Alabama - Penn St bowl rivalry. (especially since Joe has the Bear's old record of games won)

Who else do you think is going to go through unbeaten? Alabama, LSU, and Vandy; two out of those three will pick up losses, if not all three. Heck, only one of those teams can by definition get through unbeaten. Missouri, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas; two of those teams will pick up losses this weekend, and another at least in the title game. Utah and BYU play each other, so at most one of those two will be unbeaten. Of the serious contenders for a national title game, I don't see too many getting through without a loss.

Meanwhile, the only test Penn State has left is a joke of an Ohio State team.

Ack, that was just embarrassing.

I had a student ticket to that game, but I sold it.
I think I certainly made the correct choice there. :tongue:

Freaking Richt gave that game away the second he announced the blackout. If Georgia needs a special gimmick to get up for ALABAMA, then they might as well just forfeit.

Freaking Richt gave that game away the second he announced the blackout. If Georgia needs a special gimmick to get up for ALABAMA, then they might as well just forfeit.

Eh, to be fair, the blackout is typically more a fun thing than a "this is going to get us to win thing."

And, speaking as somebody who went to the Sugar Bowl last year, it does look pretty cool.

The main problem, as far as I could tell (and this is somebody who only vaguely follows football, so take it as you will), was Stafford making poor decisions(such as trying to make big passes that he had no chance at completing), and, of course, a lack of discipline leading to players getting penalties called at really inopportune moments.

Oh Penn St will brutalize Ohio State.

Im thinking Alabama, Penn State Texas and another team will be unbeaten. Maybe even Ball State! :eek: :tongue: My guess is Tide & Horns for the title. Damm this game needs a playoff system!

Eh, to be fair, the blackout is typically more a fun thing than a "this is going to get us to win thing."

And, speaking as somebody who went to the Sugar Bowl last year, it does look pretty cool.


For a bowl game. SEC championship game. Or last game of the regular season. But week 5?

Eh, to be fair, the blackout is typically more a fun thing than a "this is going to get us to win thing."

And, speaking as somebody who went to the Sugar Bowl last year, it does look pretty cool.

The main problem, as far as I could tell (and this is somebody who only vaguely follows football, so take it as you will), was Stafford making poor decisions(such as trying to make big passes that he had no chance at completing), and, of course, a lack of discipline leading to players getting penalties called at really inopportune moments.

I don't know if I'd blame Stafford. He only started making really bad decisions after Alabama went up big, fast. At that point, he kind of had to press the issue cause the game was getting away from them. That first interception was just dumb luck and bad hands by a wide receiver; no way you can chalk that one up to him.

I think the blame rests on the Georgia defense for not putting up anything that even resembled a fight until halfway through the third quarter.

For a bowl game. SEC championship game. Or last game of the regular season. But week 5?

Fair enough. I think it was originally planned for the Tennessee game, but, well...

You know, they realized that that game was actually going to suck.

Personally, I'd have liked to do it for the GA Tech game, but meh.

Oh Penn St will brutalize Ohio State.

Im thinking Alabama, Penn State Texas and another team will be unbeaten. Maybe even Ball State! :eek: :tongue: My guess is Tide & Horns for the title. Damm this game needs a playoff system!

Not a chance Texas makes it through. Even if they miraculously get past Oklahoma this week, there's no chance that Texas can keep up in a track meet with Missouri. Not to mention that Texas has to, in consecutive weeks, play #1 Oklahoma, #3 Missouri, #17 Oklahoma State, and #7 Texas Tech. I buy Oklahoma or Missouri coming out of the Big 12 unscathed, but not Texas.

Like I said, if Alabama can make it past LSU, then they're just going to steamroll their way through the conference tournament with a huge head of steam. And Penn State has a joke of a Big 10 schedule left. Since all those Big 12 teams haven't played each other, AND have a conference tournament, no way does one of them get through unbeaten.

And the non-BCS schools can kiss my ass. You can say what you want about the Big 10 and Penn State, but they're a damn sight better than BYU, whose toughest challenge each year is Utah. No offense to their undefeated season aspirations, but they'd go 8-4 in a major conference. I rag on the SEC for scheduling cupcake non-conference games, but at least they have to play each other.

Actually the blackout thing did give me a warm feeling. It has been a long time since that much respect has been shown for the Tide.

Actually the blackout thing did give me a warm feeling. It has been a long time since that much respect has been shown for the Tide.

This is true, but from someone outside the rivalry and the SEC, all it did for me was show that Georgia seemed scared of Alabama. To me, it looked like Georgia needed some sort of special extra advantage against Alabama. They were the #3 team in the country, at home, against a conference rival. What more do you need, you know?

I just think the blackout was a terrible idea, and I think it gave Alabama even more confidence that they were the better team.

Texas just might supprise you. A lot will be made clear this weekend. I'm glad the Tide has this weekend off. This is going to be a baaaaaad things weekend.

Texas & Oklahoma for Saturday breakfast. I like the sound of that. :D

ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!

Texas just might supprise you. A lot will be made clear this weekend. I'm glad the Tide has this weekend off. This is going to be a baaaaaad things weekend.

Texas & Oklahoma for Saturday breakfast. I like the sound of that. :D

ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!

Other than McCoy completing like infinity percent of his passes, Texas does not impress me. For that matter, neither do Oklahoma nor Missouri.

edit: Also, what are the odds on the fact that Missouri has two quarterbacks named Chase? How many guys are there named Chase in the Midwest, exactly?

Other than McCoy completing like infinity percent of his passes, Texas does not impress me. For that matter, neither do Oklahoma nor Missouri.

I wish you were one of the AP voters. :D

I wish you were one of the AP voters. :D

Well, you're an Alabama fan, so yeah. They're just so good this year. But I hate the SEC.

Hey, you're an SEC guy, so maybe you can explain this, if you understand it. I do not understand how fans of SEC teams can be fans of the conference. Everywhere I go to talk college football, these stupid fans come out talking about how great the SEC is and how it's the best conference and how all the teams are so good, etc. I, for the life of me, cannot fathom how a fan of a team can also root for all the other teams in the conference. Aren't you all supposed to be rivals?

I'll give you an example. I know this guy; he's a diehard Auburn fan. Ever since Auburn was exposed as being way overrated, he's been going on and on about how great the SEC is and how Alabama is going to go undefeated and crush Penn State in the title game. How does an Auburn fan root for Alabama? I don't get it. Maybe football is different in the South, but where I'm from, you don't ever root for your bitter rival. An Auburn fan rooting for Alabama is almost offensive. In my mind, an Auburn fan should never root for anything but for Alabama to get humiliated each and every week, and vice versa. I don't care if Alabama goes 12-0 with all shutouts, Auburn fans should STILL think Alabama sucks.

It's a phenomenon I've only noticed with the SEC. Big Ten teams' fans hate each other; when USC and Ohio State played, do you think there were any Michigan fans rooting for Ohio State? No way, they all cheered and cheered as USC plastered the Buckeyes. Same with the Big 12, the Pac 10, and the ACC. They HATE each other. All the time. No qualifiers. Not the SEC. They only hate each other when they're playing each other. The rest of the time they root for their in-conference rivals.

The Auburn guy explains it as SEC fans want to see their conference do well so it increases the perception of the SEC for purposes of the BCS. That way, a team like Auburn can get beat three or four times, but because they played in the SEC with all these other powerhouses, they're more likely to get one of the at-large bowls. I say that's stupid, and rivals should always root against each other, no matter what.

What do you think?

I find the SEC quite overhyped. Yeah, many of the teams are good, but they have some teams that are doormats every single year.

And on the other hand, people are constantly knocking the Pac-10. While not as consistent a producer of football powers as the SEC, it also has few teams that are doormats every year. Conference play is always very unpredictable, because there's really not that big a difference between how good the teams are. And who is good and who's not that great changes from year to year, often times a lot. Usually though, almost anyone in the conference can beat just about anyone else in the conference.

Anyway, enough ranting from me. Go Bears.

We just love the intense competition in the SEC. What's really great about the SEC is when one the more nationally recognized teams has a bad year, there is always, somehow, another SEC team to rise up. (for at least a bowl bid) Vandy is my 2nd favorite team. My 3rd is a tie between Ole Miss, Florida , Mississippi State, Auburn, LSU Arkansas, Kentucky, South Carolina & Georgia. Tennessee is my 4th. :tongue:

Bear Down Arizona! Yay PAC-10!
oh wait......
USC and Cal are good, but I can't bring myself to cheer for a California team. I'm abstaining from football this year.

Well, you're an Alabama fan, so yeah. They're just so good this year. But I hate the SEC.

Hey, you're an SEC guy, so maybe you can explain this, if you understand it. I do not understand how fans of SEC teams can be fans of the conference. Everywhere I go to talk college football, these stupid fans come out talking about how great the SEC is and how it's the best conference and how all the teams are so good, etc. I, for the life of me, cannot fathom how a fan of a team can also root for all the other teams in the conference. Aren't you all supposed to be rivals?

I'll give you an example. I know this guy; he's a diehard Auburn fan. Ever since Auburn was exposed as being way overrated, he's been going on and on about how great the SEC is and how Alabama is going to go undefeated and crush Penn State in the title game. How does an Auburn fan root for Alabama? I don't get it. Maybe football is different in the South, but where I'm from, you don't ever root for your bitter rival. An Auburn fan rooting for Alabama is almost offensive. In my mind, an Auburn fan should never root for anything but for Alabama to get humiliated each and every week, and vice versa. I don't care if Alabama goes 12-0 with all shutouts, Auburn fans should STILL think Alabama sucks.

It's a phenomenon I've only noticed with the SEC. Big Ten teams' fans hate each other; when USC and Ohio State played, do you think there were any Michigan fans rooting for Ohio State? No way, they all cheered and cheered as USC plastered the Buckeyes. Same with the Big 12, the Pac 10, and the ACC. They HATE each other. All the time. No qualifiers. Not the SEC. They only hate each other when they're playing each other. The rest of the time they root for their in-conference rivals.

The Auburn guy explains it as SEC fans want to see their conference do well so it increases the perception of the SEC for purposes of the BCS. That way, a team like Auburn can get beat three or four times, but because they played in the SEC with all these other powerhouses, they're more likely to get one of the at-large bowls. I say that's stupid, and rivals should always root against each other, no matter what.

What do you think?

Basically, all those other SEC teams might be stupid fucks, but they're our stupid fucks. :D(No real offense intended to other SEC Teams. I know you'd say the same about my team. =D

It's a phenomenon I've only noticed with the SEC. Big Ten teams' fans hate each other; when USC and Ohio State played, do you think there were any Michigan fans rooting for Ohio State? No way, they all cheered and cheered as USC plastered the Buckeyes.

That was such a happy day for me.

I'm a Central Michigan fan in the same way that I'm a fan of the Green Party. I'd love if they were to be taken seriously but I know they won't, ever.

Aside from that my two favorite teams are Michigan and whoever is playing Ohio State. Also, I'll root for any team from Michigan against any team from Ohio even if that means rooting for Michigan State.

For a bowl game. SEC championship game. Or last game of the regular season. But week 5?

Last game of the regular season is Georgia Tech, and the only people who get up for that game are Tech fans like myself.

Fair enough. I think it was originally planned for the Tennessee game, but, well...

You know, they realized that that game was actually going to suck.

Personally, I'd have liked to do it for the GA Tech game, but meh.

See, even the Georgia student goes, meh.

Well, you're an Alabama fan, so yeah. They're just so good this year. But I hate the SEC.

Hey, you're an SEC guy, so maybe you can explain this, if you understand it. I do not understand how fans of SEC teams can be fans of the conference. Everywhere I go to talk college football, these stupid fans come out talking about how great the SEC is and how it's the best conference and how all the teams are so good, etc. I, for the life of me, cannot fathom how a fan of a team can also root for all the other teams in the conference. Aren't you all supposed to be rivals?

I'll give you an example. I know this guy; he's a diehard Auburn fan. Ever since Auburn was exposed as being way overrated, he's been going on and on about how great the SEC is and how Alabama is going to go undefeated and crush Penn State in the title game. How does an Auburn fan root for Alabama? I don't get it. Maybe football is different in the South, but where I'm from, you don't ever root for your bitter rival. An Auburn fan rooting for Alabama is almost offensive. In my mind, an Auburn fan should never root for anything but for Alabama to get humiliated each and every week, and vice versa. I don't care if Alabama goes 12-0 with all shutouts, Auburn fans should STILL think Alabama sucks.

It's a phenomenon I've only noticed with the SEC. Big Ten teams' fans hate each other; when USC and Ohio State played, do you think there were any Michigan fans rooting for Ohio State? No way, they all cheered and cheered as USC plastered the Buckeyes. Same with the Big 12, the Pac 10, and the ACC. They HATE each other. All the time. No qualifiers. Not the SEC. They only hate each other when they're playing each other. The rest of the time they root for their in-conference rivals.

The Auburn guy explains it as SEC fans want to see their conference do well so it increases the perception of the SEC for purposes of the BCS. That way, a team like Auburn can get beat three or four times, but because they played in the SEC with all these other powerhouses, they're more likely to get one of the at-large bowls. I say that's stupid, and rivals should always root against each other, no matter what.

What do you think?

As an ACC fan trapped in SEC country, you'd be amazed to know just how dominant the SEC fans believe their conference to be. In the minds of SEC fans, there isnt just I-A and I-AA football (no I don't know the new names for the subdivisions.), there are actually 3 conferences; SEC, Everyone Else, and I-AA. For a SEC team to lose to a non-conference opponent *cough* Tech 38, Mississippi St. 3 *cough* is tantamount to an attack on the entire conference.

The closest example I can think of for it is NATO. No seriously, stop laughing.

Take two NATO countries, France (Auburn) and Germany (Alabama). They've got history. They probably don't really like each other. And if a fight broke out, they'd be damn sure to do everything they could to end the fight with their knee on the other guy's neck. But if say, Brazil (Texas?) attacked them, they'd all put in to see the alliance win.

In their minds, the only teams that are historically allowed to beat SEC teams are other SEC teams.

That was such a happy day for me.

I'm a Central Michigan fan in the same way that I'm a fan of the Green Party. I'd love if they were to be taken seriously but I know they won't, ever.

Aside from that my two favorite teams are Michigan and whoever is playing Ohio State. Also, I'll root for any team from Michigan against any team from Ohio even if that means rooting for Michigan State.

See, this is how a fan is supposed to act. SEC fans make no sense to me. There is absolutely no justification for an Auburn fan rooting for Alabama, or vice versa. It's sacrilege.

WE ARE! PENN STATE!

*ahem*

On the rivalries thing, I hate to make a NFL reference but I am an Eagles fan. I hate the Giants and the Cowboys. I root against them every chance I get. However, there is only one time I root for the Giants: against the Cowboys. I hate the 'Boys more. There's got to be some sort of hierarchy of hatred, right?

I also rooted for the Giants in the Super Bowl, but that was over hatred for the Pats. Really, I will remember it as the year the Pats lost a perfect season, not a G-Men Super Bowl victory.

WE ARE! PENN STATE!

*ahem*

On the rivalries thing, I hate to make a NFL reference but I am an Eagles fan. I hate the Giants and the Cowboys. I root against them every chance I get. However, there is only one time I root for the Giants: against the Cowboys. I hate the 'Boys more. There's got to be some sort of hierarchy of hatred, right?

I also rooted for the Giants in the Super Bowl, but that was over hatred for the Pats. Really, I will remember it as the year the Pats lost a perfect season, not a G-Men Super Bowl victory.

Given the way the Giants have been playing, you might end up remembering it as the beginning of the Giants' perfect season.

And I can understand a hierarchy of hatred, but never should an in-conference rival be rooted for except against another in-conference rival. For example, I could excuse a Florida fan rooting for Georgia over, say, LSU. But Georgia vs. Ohio State? That Florida fan better be rooting for Ohio State.

See, this is how a fan is supposed to act. SEC fans make no sense to me. There is absolutely no justification for an Auburn fan rooting for Alabama, or vice versa. It's sacrilege.

It seems sacrilege to me to root for Notre Dame against Tennessee or Arizona against Mississippi State.

SEC rulz the bowls and Alabama is the king of bowls. :D

ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!

Sooners are going down tomorrow. Believe it.

I'm sorry, but this thread needs a link to the other March Madness (http://satirewire.com/news/march02/madness.shtml).

Sooners are going down tomorrow. Believe it.

Like I said.

Texas just might supprise you.

Sooners are going down tomorrow. Believe it.

*high-5s Copiosa Scotia* Good call! :D

Vandy got beat! Arrrrggggg! There was one major assignment blown in that game. Someone forgot to tell the 'Dores to BEWARE OF SYLVESTER CROOM!!!

So # 1-4 will be Texas, Alabama, LSU & Mizz. Dosn't matter which order.

*high-5s Copiosa Scotia* Good call! :D

I'm way pumped about my grad school pulling out the win, but I need my undergrad alma mater to shape up and dispose of Michigan State before this can be a truly good day. Let's go 'Cats!

So # 1-4 will be Texas, Alabama, LSU & Mizz. Dosn't matter which order.

Unless LSU and/or Missouri lose.

Unless LSU and/or Missouri lose.

Oh no doubt they both will lose. Just not today! :D

Oh no doubt they both will lose. Just not today! :D

I think Missouri wins and LSU loses. Florida doesn't lose two in a row in the Swamp very often.

If LSU loses, that sets up a top three matchup between Missouri and Texas next week. How fun!

I think Missouri wins and LSU loses. Florida doesn't lose two in a row in the Swamp very often.

If LSU loses, that sets up a top three matchup between Missouri and Texas next week. How fun!

Oh I know you need Mizz to knock of Texas next week to boost the Lions. But can they get past Wisconsin tonight is the thang!

I think Missouri wins and LSU loses. Florida doesn't lose two in a row in the Swamp very often.

If LSU loses, that sets up a top three matchup between Missouri and Texas next week. How fun!

I'd be surprised if either lose this week. The Tigers have no reason to fear the Swamp, having won three of their last four there, and Missouri's got OK State badly overmatched.

Not that I'd mind if LSU lost. I'll be in attendance next week for Texas-Missouri and I'd love to see a top-three game.

Holy rolly pollie & Mick Foley! LSU, Mizz and Oklahoma take a tumble! This should put Alabama in the drivers seat and #1 in all the polls.

A round of champagne for everybody!

ROOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL

TIDE

ROLL!!!

So the first half of the season is over. I have been doing spontanious backflips for 6 weeks, watching the Alabama Crimson Tide! We are finally back! I think Bama will win the national championship this year.

The internet sensation (Jones) is now an on field sensation!

Son of Tecmo Bowl (Ingram) is practicly unstoppable!

Terrence Cody - aka - Mt Cody - aka - Mt Crushmore is completly unstoppable!

The front lines on both sides have knocked enough opponents flat as a pancake to open their own IHOP!

The QB (Wilson) now holds all season and career records at Alabama (a team with 12 national championships)

And we have a coach that is never satisfied. :D

ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!

I'm with you there... Roll Tide! With all the upsets today, there's a good chance the Tide will be #1 and Auburn is crashing and burning like the Hindenburg. I'm looking forward to going to the game and watching the Tide demolish Auburn this year at the Iron Bowl.

Wow. Suddenly I'm not at all looking forward to playing Missouri. They're going to be pissed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankings?pollId=1

Texas leapfrogged idle Alabama to replace Oklahoma as #1. I can't say I'm surprised. PSU #3, and Oklahoma only fell to #4.

On another note, I'm glad LSU dropped as far as it did. When your main claim to greatness is your "vaunted D", and you get 51 hung on you in an in-conference game, you don't deserve to be in the top 10.

Kickass, we're ranked! Hopefully this gives us some confidence going up against Ohio State. If we can keep the game close, we have a decent shot of pulling the upset at home.

Hahaha! Damm those coaches hate Alabama. Oh well the Tide will be #1 in the AP and most of the BSC computers have Bama on top. (BCS polls start in 2 weeks)

But Texas ranked above Alabama. What a joke!

Hahaha! Damm those coaches hate Alabama. Oh well the Tide will be #1 in the AP and most of the BSC computers have Bama on top. (BCS polls start in 2 weeks)

But Texas ranked above Alabama. What a joke!

Happens all the time. Idle teams get no love.

Oh well It's all good. Bama is going to do the Jesse Ventura thing. Be 14-0 and shock the world! Muhahahaha!

RTR!!!

Alabama certainly did not look that great against Kentucky.

Alabama certainly did not look that great against Kentucky.

Yea. Nick Saban's main concern has been to teach the team to forget the past after a loss or a big win. We brutalized Clemson then had a slow game the next week. We brutalized Georgia and did it again w/ Kentucky. Now some of the punch has been taken out of the Alabama-LSU game so maybe that problem will not resurface.

Yea. Nick Saban's main concern has been to teach the team to forget the past after a loss or a big win. We brutalized Clemson then had a slow game the next week. We brutalized Georgia and did it again w/ Kentucky. Now some of the punch has been taken out of the Alabama-LSU game so maybe that problem will not resurface.

The LSU game is going to be awesome... But what I'm really looking forward to is the Iron Bowl. We're gonna spank Auburn like a new born baby.

By the way, Dragon... Do you go to Alabama? I'm a grad student there myself.

No I went to a couple of local colleges.

A turn around in the Alabama Auburn game series is long overdue. They've beat us 6 years in a row. Revenge will be sweeeeeeet!

RTR!!!

I want the SEC and Big 12 to destroy each other in late-season games, leaving the only teams that can be logically chosen as Ohio State and Southern Cal. Either that or Boise State vs. Brigham Young.

While I'd like to see OSU win the rematch, what I'd want to see most is the BCSpocalypse, and be done with this horrid system once and for all.

I want the SEC and Big 12 to destroy each other in late-season games, leaving the only teams that can be logically chosen as Ohio State and Southern Cal. Either that or Boise State vs. Brigham Young.

While I'd like to see OSU win the rematch, what I'd want to see most is the BCSpocalypse, and be done with this horrid system once and for all.

Let's break it all the way down and form conferences solely based on geographical location, as well?

I want the SEC and Big 12 to destroy each other in late-season games, leaving the only teams that can be logically chosen as Ohio State and Southern Cal. Either that or Boise State vs. Brigham Young.

While I'd like to see OSU win the rematch, what I'd want to see most is the BCSpocalypse, and be done with this horrid system once and for all.

Not if OSU loses twice in one year...

Let's break it all the way down and form conferences solely based on geographical location, as well?

Great, now I put the idea in my head and I'm either going to have to work it out, or go crazy wondering where Clemson goes.

Not if OSU loses twice in one year...

Whether or not OSU loses is inconsequential for the death of the BCS.

Whether or not OSU loses is inconsequential for the death of the BCS.

But it would certainly make me happy and you sad.

And in the end, isn't that what counts?

But it would certainly make me happy and you sad.

And in the end, isn't that what counts?

As a northeast Ohioan, I do not expect victory from sports teams, thus, I cannot be happy about sports teams. Thus, I cannot be sad, because I don't know what happy means.

Whenever the teams I do root for win, then I am treated to a mild sense of surprise and amusement...perhaps a feeling akin to one witnessing a novelty, but never happiness.

As a northeast Ohioan, I do not expect victory from sports teams, thus, I cannot be happy about sports teams. Thus, I cannot be sad, because I don't know what happy means.

Whenever the teams I do root for win, then I am treated to a mild sense of surprise and amusement...perhaps a feeling akin to one witnessing a novelty, but never happiness.

As always, your logic makes sense. Quite the same with the Lions up here.

Beyond our feelings, care to place a friendly wager on the OSU-MSU game this coming weekend?

Who else do you think is going to go through unbeaten? Alabama, LSU, and Vandy; two out of those three will pick up losses, if not all three. Heck, only one of those teams can by definition get through unbeaten. Missouri, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas; two of those teams will pick up losses this weekend, and another at least in the title game. Utah and BYU play each other, so at most one of those two will be unbeaten. Of the serious contenders for a national title game, I don't see too many getting through without a loss.

Meanwhile, the only test Penn State has left is a joke of an Ohio State team.

Penn State absoluterly destroyed Wisconsin yesterday. What he hell happened to Wisconsin this year. Its gotta be the quarterback

As always, your logic makes sense. Quite the same with the Lions up here.

Beyond our feelings, care to place a friendly wager on the OSU-MSU game this coming weekend?

For once, the Big Ten doesn't just feel like OSU and U of M and a whole mess of potential traps.

But, I don't think OSU is as good as it should have been. The teams not been playing as well as they should, and while Pryor is phenomenal, he's inexperienced, and makes freshman mistakes.

I'd say a close one, MSU-20, OSU 23. (2TDs, 2FGs).

For once, the Big Ten doesn't just feel like OSU and U of M and a whole mess of potential traps.

But, I don't think OSU is as good as it should have been. The teams not been playing as well as they should, and while Pryor is phenomenal, he's inexperienced, and makes freshman mistakes.

I'd say a close one, MSU-20, OSU 23. (2TDs, 2FGs).

It makes my heart jump with joy every time I see UM at 2-4.

OSU's offense is not playing well this year as of yet. Pryor is going into a very hostile environment and playing perhaps the 3rd or 4th best team in the Big 10. MSUs defense is better then last year.

MSU pulls the upset at home on Swenson's 16th consecutive field goal. 13-10

It makes my heart jump with joy every time I see UM at 2-4.

Quite. Curse the name of U of M.

OSU's offense is not playing well this year as of yet. Pryor is going into a very hostile environment and playing perhaps the 3rd or 4th best team in the Big 10. MSUs defense is better then last year.

In my opinion, it's either OSU or MSU for the 2 spot, actually, and this weekend will determine it.

Even though I think Penn State is better, I think it will be an extremely difficult trip for them to make to Ohio Stadium.

MSU pulls the upset at home on Swenson's 16th consecutive field goal. 13-10

I can certainly see a very low score for this game. For the offensive flaws the Bucks have, the defense was on key against Purdue. I hope that they stay this way, myself. What bugged me is that yesterday, OSU botched two FG's against Purdue. One had a false start drag the ball out of range, and the other was just a bizarre miss by Pretorius. I got spoiled by Nugent--he was a laser.

Quite. Curse the name of U of M.

You're telling me. My maternal grandfather, my uncle, and his 6 kids all went or are going to UM. My mother and father are both Spartans (father played baseball with kirk gibson back in the day). I come from a very divided family. I called up my Uncle yesterday. He was ever so pissed.


In my opinion, it's either OSU or MSU for the 2 spot, actually, and this weekend will determine it.

I think on any given day, OSU is better then MSU. And I think this would almost be a sure win for OSU if it was played in the horseshoe. But with Pryor's struggles and it being played in East Lansing, I think it might just be enough to get MSU the win.

Even though I think Penn State is better, I think it will be an extremely difficult trip for them to make to Ohio Stadium.

Penn State is just destroying everything in it's path right now. They are, no doubt, the cream of the crop in the Big Ten.


I can certainly see a very low score for this game. For the offensive flaws the Bucks have, the defense was on key against Purdue. I hope that they stay this way, myself. What bugged me is that yesterday, OSU botched two FG's against Purdue. One had a false start drag the ball out of range, and the other was just a bizarre miss by Pretorius. I got spoiled by Nugent--he was a laser.

We know all about bad special teams. Remember a few years ago when MSU came into Columbus, ran 10 men out for a field goal try, and got it blocked and returned for a touchdown. Great soundbite from John L. Smith, though.

No I went to a couple of local colleges.

A turn around in the Alabama Auburn game series is long overdue. They've beat us 6 years in a row. Revenge will be sweeeeeeet!

RTR!!!

But I assume you're from Alabama?

I went to Calhoun Community College for my freshman year about seven years ago now (Makes me feel old =/)... You wouldn't happen to be from the Huntsville area, would you?

But I assume you're from Alabama?

I went to Calhoun Community College for my freshman year about seven years ago now (Makes me feel old =/)... You wouldn't happen to be from the Huntsville area, would you?

Yes. And I went to Calhoun in the 70s. And you are not old. :D

Bear Down Arizona! Yay PAC-10!
oh wait......
USC and Cal are good, but I can't bring myself to cheer for a California team. I'm abstaining from football this year.

USC is a bunch of spoiled brats. But why not root for Cal? I guess it's tradition in my family to root for them. I'm a pretty diehard Cal fan. You know that awful season they had in 2001 where they only won a single game? Yeah, I was at all of those that were home games. And all the home games in the years before that. And now they're finally good, though their uniforms really suck.

I just hope they make it to the Rose Bowl. They probably won't, but one can always hope. I don't give a crap about this new BCS thing. To me it's just a way of cheating the Pac-10 out of their own Bowl game (the Rose Bowl).

Last game of the regular season is Georgia Tech, and the only people who get up for that game are Tech fans like myself.



See, even the Georgia student goes, meh.



As an ACC fan trapped in SEC country, you'd be amazed to know just how dominant the SEC fans believe their conference to be. In the minds of SEC fans, there isnt just I-A and I-AA football (no I don't know the new names for the subdivisions.), there are actually 3 conferences; SEC, Everyone Else, and I-AA. For a SEC team to lose to a non-conference opponent *cough* Tech 38, Mississippi St. 3 *cough* is tantamount to an attack on the entire conference.

The closest example I can think of for it is NATO. No seriously, stop laughing.

Take two NATO countries, France (Auburn) and Germany (Alabama). They've got history. They probably don't really like each other. And if a fight broke out, they'd be damn sure to do everything they could to end the fight with their knee on the other guy's neck. But if say, Brazil (Texas?) attacked them, they'd all put in to see the alliance win.

In their minds, the only teams that are historically allowed to beat SEC teams are other SEC teams.

And that's why the only people I love Cal beating more than SEC teams are USC and Stanford (in that order, actually; when 'furd and SC play each other, I actually usually root for 'furd, or rather, against SC)