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Why is Palin getting a pass on the Alaskan Independence Party, for whom she was making speeches for this year (http://www.akip.org/090308.html). This is a party founded by a man who stated "the fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/aip_founder_professed_hatred_f.php

Palin has associated with the AIP, and while her membership is a matter of dispute, her husband certainly was a mamber.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/another-aip-off.html

Because when a white guy or the friend of a white candidate (especialy if its a Republican) says something anti-American, the ebil libruhl media ignores it.

But when its a black guy or the friend of a black guy (especially when that black guys a democrat) says something anti-American, HOLY SHIT STEP THE PRESSES!

Because it doesn't matter and is just a smear tactic.

I'm confident that the Obama campaign as a strategy to attack the connection if the McCain campaign continues with their attack plan. But, throughout this election cycle, the Obama campaign has shown that they will only run a smear in response to being smeared.

Because it doesn't matter and is just a smear tactic.

I'm confident that the Obama campaign as a strategy to attack the connection if the McCain campaign continues with their attack plan. But, throughout this election cycle, the Obama campaign has shown that they will only run a smear in response to being smeared.

I really hope that works for them, if it's shown you can win without resorting to excessive smear tactics, people might use them less (though I wouldn't bet money on it).

Why is Palin getting a pass on the Alaskan Independence Party, for whom she was making speeches for this year (http://www.akip.org/090308.html). This is a party founded by a man who stated "the fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."
I'm sure Obama's campaign knows about this. Maybe they're just waiting to see if McCain's new strategy will have any discernible affect - and if it does, they'll start bringing these issues to the fore.
Last week, when McCain started threatening to attack Obama's character many posters on here said Obama shd throw the Keating 5 back in McCain's face. Sure enough that's exactly what he did.
Perhaps we can look forward to having this issue brought up and thrown back at the McCain camp later this week, or the next, if they continue with the Rev Wright smears. This and Palin's own preacher, the witch doctor who thinks the age of Apocalypse is upon us.

Something rather odd:
http://www.johnmccain.com/images/mccainreport/Document.pdf

It's Sarah Palin's voter registration cards, as supplied by McCain's campaign. I notice her signature is different on every single one of them. How strange!

Being deeply suspicious I wonder if it's a trap set up to drag the ebil liberal media in, a la Bush's National Guard records.
Either that or it tells us Palin's got a multiple personality disorder. ;)

Because associating with people that hate America is only wrong if you're a Democrat.

Something rather odd:
http://www.johnmccain.com/images/mccainreport/Document.pdf

It's Sarah Palin's voter registration cards, as supplied by McCain's campaign. I notice her signature is different on every single one of them. How strange!

Being deeply suspicious I wonder if it's a trap set up to drag the ebil liberal media in, a la Bush's National Guard records.
Either that or it tells us Palin's got a multiple personality disorder. ;)

Woah... that is pretty weird.

But then, my signature changes from time to time, but I have a diagnosed handwriting disorder, and a letter from my mummy >.>

When I first read this thread title, I thought it was meant that Palin made a pass at somebody. How disappointed I am.

Something rather odd:
http://www.johnmccain.com/images/mccainreport/Document.pdf

It's Sarah Palin's voter registration cards, as supplied by McCain's campaign. I notice her signature is different on every single one of them. How strange!

Being deeply suspicious I wonder if it's a trap set up to drag the ebil liberal media in, a la Bush's National Guard records.
Either that or it tells us Palin's got a multiple personality disorder. ;)

I really hope that this doesn't become an issue. I'm pretty sure that my signature changes every time I sign something so I don't want that to come under any scrunity :tongue:

Something rather odd:
http://www.johnmccain.com/images/mccainreport/Document.pdf

It's Sarah Palin's voter registration cards, as supplied by McCain's campaign. I notice her signature is different on every single one of them. How strange!


I'm no fan of the moosey mom, but it strikes me as nothing more sinister than her signature evolving after she stopped being Sarah Heath and became Sarah Palin.

My wife's signature evolved subtly after she took my surname (though admittedly not quite as much as Palin's seems to), and this seems to be a similar principle.

Or maybe her first attempt at 'Sarah Palin' was influenced by witches, and had to change after those evil witches were cast aside. Witches are like that.

I'll leave it to you to decide which scenario Occam's razor suggests is more likely.

I really hope that this doesn't become an issue. I'm pretty sure that my signature changes every time I sign something so I don't want that to come under any scrunity :tongue:

I'm no fan of the moosey mom, but it strikes me as nothing more sinister than her signature evolving after she stopped being Sarah Heath and became Sarah Palin.

My wife's signature evolved subtly after she took my surname (though admittedly not quite as much as Palin's seems to), and this seems to be a similar principle.

Or maybe her first attempt at 'Sarah Palin' was influenced by witches, and had to change after those evil witches were cast aside. Witches are like that.

I'll leave it to you to decide which scenario Occam's razor suggests is more likely.
I'm going to go with this. With the laundry list of things that make her a down right dangerous pick for VP, changes in signature don't even blip the radar for me.

Because if Obama makes a big issue of it then he will lose the upper ground he has by saying he won't enter into mud slinging matches. If he does it will be worse for him because then he will become a hypocrite and that is worse than a mudslinger.

I'm going to go with this. With the laundry list of things that make her a down right dangerous pick for VP, changes in signature don't even blip the radar for me.

A very dangerous pick for eventual president, likely, should McCain win.

Because if Obama makes a big issue of it then he will lose the upper ground he has by saying he won't enter into mud slinging matches. If he does it will be worse for him because then he will become a hypocrite and that is worse than a mudslinger.

Obama doesn't need to sling any mud. Everyone else will.

Obama doesn't need to sling any mud. Everyone else will.

Truth to that, this thing was on Keith Obermann tonight.

It's Sarah Palin's voter registration cards, as supplied by McCain's campaign. I notice her signature is different on every single one of them. How strange!

She took classes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin#Early_life_and_education) at the University of Idaho, College of Agriculture & Life Sciences, with the intent of become an agricultural pharmacist. She was adapting her signature to more accurately reflect the meaningless scrawl that is a requirement in the medical professions.

Once she found out that corn doesn't need prescriptions, just supplements, she switched to a communications major.

Obama doesn't need to sling any mud. Everyone else will.

Care to explain further?

Care to explain further?

I could be wrong, but I was thinking that he was referring to:

A. the fact that Obama is up 8 points in the polls, and when you're the clear leader at the time, running an all out negative attack campaign doesn't make sense necessarily

and/or

B. he can just get his people to attack on his behalf, should that be deemed necessary. Why have Obama get dirty in all the mud slinging - at this point in time a lot of voters seem to think he's the more "Presidential" of the candidates. No need to drag yourself down to that level.

Other than the Keating-Five video, and being dismissive of the McCain campaign's ridiculous assertions, the Obama camp doesn't need to respond in kind. Of course, if voters respond overwhelmingly positively to McCain's new tactic, then I suppose that would change things. I don't see people responding positively, though.

Because it doesn't matter and is just a smear tactic.

I'm confident that the Obama campaign as a strategy to attack the connection if the McCain campaign continues with their attack plan. But, throughout this election cycle, the Obama campaign has shown that they will only run a smear in response to being smeared.

Especially when they have a comfortable lead. But do you doubt that if the Obama campaign was 7% behind in the final month that they'd pull no punches?

It's not a matter of playing fair, it's a matter of playing to win.

Or maybe her first attempt at 'Sarah Palin' was influenced by witches, and had to change after those evil witches were cast aside. Witches are like that.

I pick this option.^^

Seriously though, her signatures do not look all that different to me. Lots of people are self-conscious about their signatures and try to develop them over time to have a certain style or look.

As to the OP, I'm not giving her a pass. She'll always be a lying, traitorous, secessionist *expletive*, as far as I'm concerned.

It's not a matter of playing fair, it's a matter of playing to win.
Someone should explain that to McCain because he's doing neither.

Someone should explain that to McCain because he's doing neither.

Better yet, someone should explain that to McCain AFTER the election, making him that much more frustrated and resulting in a state in which he develops a depression and lives the rest of his life, say about 20 more years, suffering from it.

And then he dies and it gets worse.

Care to explain further?
He can have Biden do it for him. Even Hillary can get into the act and go all out on McCain and Palin. As much as she dislikes Obama for ruining her run to the top, I can't see her really wanting McCain to win just to spite Obama.

With the perceived animosity between the Clintons and Obama, them coming out in all-attack mode on McCain would be pretty powerful - and wouldn't necessarily be seen as an endorsed tactic from Obama.

I could be wrong, but I was thinking that he was referring to:

A. the fact that Obama is up 8 points in the polls, and when you're the clear leader at the time, running an all out negative attack campaign doesn't make sense necessarily

and/or

B. he can just get his people to attack on his behalf, should that be deemed necessary. Why have Obama get dirty in all the mud slinging - at this point in time a lot of voters seem to think he's the more "Presidential" of the candidates. No need to drag yourself down to that level.

Other than the Keating-Five video, and being dismissive of the McCain campaign's ridiculous assertions, the Obama camp doesn't need to respond in kind. Of course, if voters respond overwhelmingly positively to McCain's new tactic, then I suppose that would change things. I don't see people responding positively, though.

Exactly. Obama doesn't need to throw any mud. All the other democrats will do that for him, and not throwing mud makes him appear more statesman like.

Exactly. Obama doesn't need to throw any mud. All the other democrats will do that for him, and not throwing mud makes him appear more statesman like.

What's more, the media loves a good story. It just so happens that dragging skeletons out of politician's closets makes a damn good story you can spin, thus increasing your audience.

Of course, Conservatives will scream "Liberal Media!", whereas everyone else will reply "Business as usual."

Right now, Palin is a goldmine for the media. It's the way it goes. If they could honestly get dirt on Obama that wasn't old news, they would try to run with it.

So really, the Obama campaign in it's entirety doesn't even have to fling mud at all. The media will do it for them, and being so close to the election, there really won't be any time for the effect to wear off to "meh" levels.

What's more, the media loves a good story. It just so happens that dragging skeletons out of politician's closets makes a damn good story you can spin, thus increasing your audience.

This is what I'm talking about, not campaign mud slinging.

Right now, Palin is a goldmine for the media. It's the way it goes.

The media eventually hit on some of Palin's religious stuff. But both the attempts at book banning and AIP stuff seem to be being largely ignored.

Partly this question was my trying to find out if it was just my impressions or whether the media was really allowing these to slip under the public radar screen.

The media eventually hit on some of Palin's religious stuff.
The only thing that would mean her "witch-hunter" pastor a big story would be if the other side dredged up Rev. Wright again: which Palin, suicidally, is eager to do.

It's Sarah Palin's voter registration cards, as supplied by McCain's campaign. I notice her signature is different on every single one of them. How strange!

Either that or it tells us Palin's got a multiple personality disorder. ;)You're more right than you let on.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14082591&postcount=444
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14082613&postcount=445
5. Believed Palin's Governor election victory was due to the power of his prayers;
6. Believes he receives direct "words of knowledge" from God, providing him information about past events in other people's lives.
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Her Pastor of whom she says, "This is such a special, special place. What comes from this church I think has great destiny."
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...you forgot about the anti-witchcraft mojo, and the scapegoating of a woman in Africa to the point where she was hounded out of her home and town, an act on which Kalnins based the launch of his career and about which he still brags. And don't forget the casting of anti-witchcraft charms on Palin herself in a special ritual in their church...
*nods emphatically*