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Robbery 101

Hobabwe
06-10-2008, 13:15
Now, imagine your planning a bankjob, one worry is: How do i not get caught. here's how one robber solved it:

MONROE, WASH. — An online advertisement offered $28.50 an hour to anyone who wore a blue, long-sleeved shirt, yellow safety vest, eye protection and ventilator mask and waited near a bank.

Apparently, it should have been labeled "decoys wanted."

Police said a number of people wearing the specified outfit were waiting near a Bank of America branch Tuesday when a similarly dressed man accosted a Brinks armored truck guard with pepper spray during a cash delivery in Monroe. Police said the man grabbed a bag of money and eluded pursuers.

FBI agents were trying to determine the source of the ad posted on craiglist.org, which ostensibly was seeking landscaping help on a city project, Monroe police spokeswoman Debbie Willis said.

As of Thursday, no one had been arrested and the source of the ad remained undetermined.

A similar ploy was used in the 1999 movie The Thomas Crown Affair, in which an art thief wearing a trench coat and bowler hat makes off with a priceless masterpiece as museum security guards are distracted by several look-alikes the crook hired.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/bizarre/6036783.html

Utterly brilliant :)

(note: i don't actually condone bankjobs)
Ifreann
06-10-2008, 13:29
I wonder if any of those people will actually get their money.....
Blouman Empire
06-10-2008, 13:44
Yes, not a bad idea, of course The Thomas Crown Affair isn't the first movie where this trick has been deployed.
Dumb Ideologies
06-10-2008, 13:59
Did the bank have any money to hand over? Credit crunch, collapse of the financial system and all that jazz.
Blouman Empire
06-10-2008, 14:18
The robber asked for some AAA tranch MBSs.
Zombie PotatoHeads
06-10-2008, 14:27
One time I was out on the coast heading into the largish town (population 50,000) I worked in when 4 police cars + police van + 2 police dog handler cars roared past. I was at least 30km away from town on a windy road. Even going flat out it would take 12-15 minutes to get to town.

It occurred to me later while I was at work what a great plan it would be to put in a fake call for, say, a extreme domestic violent assault ("oh god! he's got a gun!") 30km outside town, wait 10 minutes then have someone else put in another call on the opposite side of town, also 30km away, wait another 10 then do the same 30km above town.
10 minutes later, you hit several of the banks (4 of them were on opposite corners of the same intersection) and get away in a car at the time several identical cars, all the same make, model, colour and number plates, drive through town.
Meanwhile 90+% of the police force are 30 km away.

I had a particularly boring job at that point in my life that afforded me much time to think and imagine.
Zombie PotatoHeads
06-10-2008, 14:29
Did the bank have any money to hand over? Credit crunch, collapse of the financial system and all that jazz.
"We've got no money, but here's an IOU for when the govt gives us some of that $700 Billion. When we've get it, we'll let you know and you can come in and rob us then, okay?"
Non Aligned States
06-10-2008, 14:33
It occurred to me later while I was at work what a great plan it would be to put in a fake call for, say, a extreme domestic violent assault ("oh god! he's got a gun!") 30km outside town, wait 10 minutes then have someone else put in another call on the opposite side of town, also 30km away, wait another 10 then do the same 30km above town.

How are you going to rob a bank from the stratosphere?
Fonzica
06-10-2008, 14:37
What ever happened to just using an old sawn-off shotgun?
Zombie PotatoHeads
06-10-2008, 14:43
How are you going to rob a bank from the stratosphere?
by airship of course. And with very long rappel ropes

(I was using above as meaning North, mmm'kay?)
Exilia and Colonies
06-10-2008, 14:45
How are you going to rob a bank from the stratosphere?

You don't rob it from the stratosphere. You airlift it back to your evil lair and break into it there. :p
Non Aligned States
06-10-2008, 14:45
by airship of course. And with very long rappel ropes


Your hands would be burned to stubs from the friction, even with gloves, before you reach the bottom. :p


(I was using above as meaning North, mmm'kay?)

Psch, the stratosphere is more fun.
greed and death
06-10-2008, 15:03
One time I was out on the coast heading into the largish town (population 50,000) I worked in when 4 police cars + police van + 2 police dog handler cars roared past. I was at least 30km away from town on a windy road. Even going flat out it would take 12-15 minutes to get to town.

It occurred to me later while I was at work what a great plan it would be to put in a fake call for, say, a extreme domestic violent assault ("oh god! he's got a gun!") 30km outside town, wait 10 minutes then have someone else put in another call on the opposite side of town, also 30km away, wait another 10 then do the same 30km above town.
10 minutes later, you hit several of the banks (4 of them were on opposite corners of the same intersection) and get away in a car at the time several identical cars, all the same make, model, colour and number plates, drive through town.
Meanwhile 90+% of the police force are 30 km away.

I had a particularly boring job at that point in my life that afforded me much time to think and imagine.

too many issues. they track phone numbers and will be less likely to believe a domestic violence call from down town pointing them elsewhere.
The way around this is disposable prepaid mobile phones. however they will track to wear you bought the phone. see if the clerk remembers you and check the stores camera. Steer clear of the vending machines as they are also normally monitored by camera (the ones with mobile phones in them).

you might succeed in the robbery but it is likely they will be able to track you down.
Wilgrove
06-10-2008, 15:06
That plan was utter brillance! I hope they never catch him, he deserves to get away with that plan. :)
Arroza
06-10-2008, 15:09
too many issues. they track phone numbers and will be less likely to believe a domestic violence call from down town pointing them elsewhere.
The way around this is disposable prepaid mobile phones. however they will track to wear you bought the phone. see if the clerk remembers you and check the stores camera. Steer clear of the vending machines as they are also normally monitored by camera (the ones with mobile phones in them).

you might succeed in the robbery but it is likely they will be able to track you down.

Get a crackhead to buy the tracphones.
Wilgrove
06-10-2008, 15:11
Get a crackhead to buy the tracphones.

Make sure he gets high after he hands you the phone. That way his chances of remembering you becomes slim. *nod*
Arroza
06-10-2008, 15:21
Make sure he gets high after he hands you the phone. That way his chances of remembering you becomes slim. *nod*

Well if you give him/her a twenty to facilitate them buying the phones for you, it's pretty much a guarantee that they're going to get high almost immediately after. *nod*
The One Eyed Weasel
06-10-2008, 15:22
Get a crackhead to buy the tracphones.

And have the crackhead make the calls as well. He'll keep the cops confused for hours.
Bubabalu
06-10-2008, 16:10
At least in the U.S. this is what would work better.

Never hit an armored car on Mondays. That is when they are taking most of the weekend deposits from stores to the processing centers. There is cash, but not as much as you think. If you really want to hit an armored car, do it on a Thursday. There are 2 types of armored cars. The dual axel ones will be making the very large money transfers from collection point to collection point. The single axel ones will be making the bank to bank drops.

Hit the armored car preferably on Thursday morning, when they are making the cash drop offs at the banks, getting ready for Friday payday.

If you are going to do a bank, don't take any of the money from the teller stations. Those are the stacks that are rigged with the dye packs. If you are going to do a bank, take the money from the vault, since those are not rigged with dye packs.

However, keep in mind that there are very few armored car robberies in the US that have gone unsolved. And bank robberies, well, just make sure that you wave to the cameras on the way out.
Kyronea
06-10-2008, 17:23
Pfft. Robbing banks is so last century. You're supposed to break into the accounts online and siphon it all off electronically from a laptop bouncing satellite signals off of government satellites in some little shack somewhere in Alabama now.
Zombie PotatoHeads
06-10-2008, 17:27
For a safer way to steal with little chance of getting caught, may I suggest road-jacking?
Armed gangs of kidnappers are increasing their attacks on hauliers in Britain, and truck drivers are routinely being abducted at gunpoint for their cargo, a leaked police intelligence report reveals.

Truck hijackings by "modern highwaymen" rose by 50 per cent last year, with an estimated £250 million ($665 million) of goods stolen by kidnapping syndicates, according to the report prepared for the Government.

Attacks often involve a driver being abducted at gun or knifepoint and kept hostage overnight while his cargo is taken. Stolen items are then sold cheaply door-to-door. Detectives said that gangs emphasised a "Robin Hood" image to hide the fact that the goods originated from kidnappings.

An average of £130,000 of goods are stolen in each raid. Cargoes of cigarettes or expensive electrical goods are often targeted. Officers from freight crime units throughout Britain identified 44 attacks where haulage drivers were kidnapped before their cargo was stolen.

Two weeks ago, a driver was dragged from his truck at knifepoint after parking overnight in a Worcestershire lay-by, and held hostage for several hours before being released. Police found his abandoned truck, still carrying £40,000 of Toblerone chocolate bars, at what they believe was a collection point for another gang.

In another attack a truck was hijacked on the M1 motorway by men dressed as police officers. They tied the driver's wrists to a gate, stole his £250,000 cargo and set the vehicle on fire near Holmfirth, West Yorkshire.

A £50,000 reward has been offered for information about a gang who hijacked a truck in Cheshire at knifepoint and stole cigarettes worth £1 million. Police said the Lancashire driver remains "distraught".

Police found that all kidnappings occur at night with "attack groups" of at least three armed men. The report, compiled by Merseyside police for Louise Ellman MP, chair of the parliamentary transport select committee, said: "Typical roadside hijack: cab window smashed using crowbar or hammer, sleeping driver overcome, typically punched and threatened with weapons."

The report warns that truck hijackings have increased because the gangs see the number of targets as "limitless". Syndicates view the offence as relatively risk-free, with just 5 per cent of police investigations successful. Latest intelligence indicates the gangs are run by multi-millionaire criminals who control the planning of attacks and distribution of the stolen goods.

In Merseyside alone, police have identified six "principals", who own large-scale profitable "front" businesses with close links to the haulage industry. More than a quarter of the 306 truck hijackings in the UK during the past three years were organised by Liverpool gangs.

LAND PIRATES

* Investigations led by Merseyside Police found that seven hijacking teams stole £11 million of goods between 2005 and 2008.
* These gangs had 75 members, who were armed in at least 10 attacks.
* Officers also identified 60 storemen and warehouse suppliers and 15 corrupt drivers who assisted the gangs.

http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10535925

why am I not surprised to see they're mostly done by scouse gangs? ;)

At £130 thou per job and only 1 in 20 chance of being caught, it's worth a consideration.

Would make a good premise for a movie.
Arroza
06-10-2008, 18:20
For a safer way to steal with little chance of getting caught, may I suggest road-jacking?


http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10535925

why am I not surprised to see they're mostly done by scouse gangs? ;)

At £130 thou per job and only 1 in 20 chance of being caught, it's worth a consideration.

Would make a good premise for a movie.

Been there, done that. It was about the last 15 minutes of The Fast and the Furious.

Also, yet another reason why I quit driving a truck. They actually had to escort the cigarette loads out of Carolina as each truck was notmally worth about 3-4 million dollars.
Hobabwe
06-10-2008, 18:47
For a safer way to steal with little chance of getting caught, may I suggest road-jacking?


http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10535925

why am I not surprised to see they're mostly done by scouse gangs? ;)

At £130 thou per job and only 1 in 20 chance of being caught, it's worth a consideration.

Would make a good premise for a movie.

I heard some things about hyjackings, seems its a problem in the netherlands aswell.
Free Outer Eugenia
06-10-2008, 19:41
Well done!