NationStates Jolt Archive


US Southern Cuisine

Daistallia 2104
05-10-2008, 18:02
In response to the people slagging off grits in the chopsticks thread.

Do you like Southern US cuisine?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_the_Southern_United_States
Adunabar
05-10-2008, 18:07
Never tried it.
Daistallia 2104
05-10-2008, 18:10
Dang, that poll was meant to be multi-choice. (>.<)
Fassitude
05-10-2008, 18:19
"Do you like Southern USA cuisine?"

That's like asking "do you like Southern Asian cuisine" - it's a region with extremely varied types of food and one cannot just answer yes or no.

For instance, all the meat/animal secretion-based and other disgusting foods from there are awful. Then again, there is the Cajun type which can be quite delicious in its vegetarian varieties. So, your question is not easily answerable.
Hydesland
05-10-2008, 18:20
For instance, all the meat/animal secretion-based and other disgusting foods from there are awful.

Have you actually tried them?
Neesika
05-10-2008, 18:21
I have no idea if I like it or not. I like grits apparently, though I'm never going to call it that. It's cornmeal. I like beans, and three sisters soup, but that's Indian with a feather food, and I don't care if you've appropriated it :D
Lunatic Goofballs
05-10-2008, 18:22
Jambalaya! Fun to eat, fun to say! :)
Fassitude
05-10-2008, 18:23
Have you actually tried them?

Don't be silly, I don't eat pieces of animal carcasses and their glandular products. I find them sickening. That's why I described them as awful. Do keep up.
Hydesland
05-10-2008, 18:23
Don't be silly, I don't eat pieces of animal carcasses and their glandular products. I find them sickening. That's why I described them as awful. Do keep up.

So when you say 'awful', you don't actually mean it has an awful taste, you mean something else?
Ashmoria
05-10-2008, 18:24
yes

well not the boiled peanuts. the smell alone makes me nauseous.
Daistallia 2104
05-10-2008, 18:27
Jambalaya! Fun to eat, fun to say! :)

And sing, as well.

Jambalaya and a crawfish pie and filet gumbo
'cause tonight i'm gonna meet ma cher amio
PIck guitar, fill fruit jar and be gayo
Son of a gun we'll have big fun on the bayou
Wowmaui
05-10-2008, 18:27
You need an "all of the above" choice there. Since I eat and like all of those. Had grits for breakfast just yesterday in fact and will be having pulled pork B-B-Q this evening. Cajun food is a whole 'nother ball game - though I do enjoy asking people if they suck head (its a boiled crawdad thing).
Fassitude
05-10-2008, 18:28
So when you say 'awful', you don't actually mean it has an awful taste, you mean something else?

I mean both. You know, it is possible to find decomposing flesh to be off-putting on several levels, including morally as well as taste wise.
Hydesland
05-10-2008, 18:29
I mean both. You know, it is possible to find decomposing flesh to be off-putting on several levels, including morally as well as taste wise.

But you don't know what it tastes like.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-10-2008, 18:30
I mean both. You know, it is possible to find decomposing flesh to be off-putting on several levels, including morally as well as taste wise.

So you only eat live animals? How daring! :)
Neesika
05-10-2008, 18:30
But you don't know what it tastes like.

I don't know what shit tastes like either, but if I'm not into eating feces, I can still label it 'awful' and declare that dishes made with shit are awful.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-10-2008, 18:37
I don't know what shit tastes like either, but if I'm not into eating feces, I can still label it 'awful' and declare that dishes made with shit are awful.

In a similar analogy, one could say the same about any dish made with insects. If one isn't into eating insects, one could say that all dishes made with insects are awful. But I am willing to bet that if you are daring, recognize that some people with perfectly reasonable good taste like to cook them and eat them, then you might recognize the possibility that there might be a dish made with insects out there that you would find quite delicious.
Neesika
05-10-2008, 18:39
In a similar analogy, one could say the same about any dish made with insects. If one isn't into eating insects, one could say that all dishes made with insects are awful. But I am willing to bet that if you are daring, recognize that some people with perfectly reasonable good taste like to cook them and eat them, then you might recognize the possibility that there might be a dish made with insects out there that you would find quite delicious.

I'm opposed to eating shit, on a fundamental level. I don't care if someone can prepare it to taste like strawberry shortcake...I still wouldn't eat it.

Taste isn't everything.
Hydesland
05-10-2008, 18:39
I don't know what shit tastes like either, but if I'm not into eating feces, I can still label it 'awful' and declare that dishes made with shit are awful.

Yes but unless you actually taste it, you don't know for a fact that it tastes awful. Though it's pretty easy to guess, since it smells so damn awful. Southern Fried chicken however, actually smells pretty nice.
Daistallia 2104
05-10-2008, 18:41
You need an "all of the above" choice there. Since I eat and like all of those.

I know, I know. Twas supposed to be multi choice, but I stupidly forgot to make it so. (>.<)

Had grits for breakfast just yesterday in fact and will be having pulled pork B-B-Q this evening. Cajun food is a whole 'nother ball game - though I do enjoy asking people if they suck head (its a boiled crawdad thing).

:::Licks lips:::

Even if ya'll do BBQ wrong (ie not Texas style), ya'll do it well.

And grits is a deal breaker/maker. Seriously.

In 2005 I had my Japanese girlfriend home for the holidays. On a roadtrip we stopped in for breakfast at Cracker Barrel (serves well enough). Yuki-chan's big test was grits. She liked them. If her parents had liked me better (oddly her mum dissed my Buddhism...), we'd likely be wedded...
Arroza
05-10-2008, 18:43
Dang, that poll was meant to be multi-choice. (>.<)

Yes to all except boiled peanuts (ick.) and hopping john, I have no idea what that is.

The negative side of this, however is that we have produced the worst food ever...chitterlings.
Neesika
05-10-2008, 18:44
Yes but unless you actually taste it, you don't know for a fact that it tastes awful. Though it's pretty easy to guess, since it smells so damn awful. Southern Fried chicken however, actually smells pretty nice.

Fass made it clear he wasn't saying it 'tasted' awful, just that it is awful, in general.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-10-2008, 18:45
I'm opposed to eating shit, on a fundamental level. I don't care if someone can prepare it to taste like strawberry shortcake...I still wouldn't eat it.

Taste isn't everything.

You wouldn't eat shit, but you eat things that eat shit. Namely plants and mushrooms. Shit is the Building Block of Life. :)
Hydesland
05-10-2008, 18:45
Fass made it clear he wasn't saying it 'tasted' awful, just that it is awful, in general.

Me: So when you say 'awful', you don't actually mean it has an awful taste, you mean something else?

Fass: I mean both.
Copiosa Scotia
05-10-2008, 18:49
Real Texas barbecue is the truth. So good.
Daistallia 2104
05-10-2008, 18:49
Yes to all except boiled peanuts (ick.) and hopping john, I have no idea what that is.

The negative side of this, however is that we have produced the worst food ever...chitterlings.

Hoppin' John's basically beans and rice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoppin%27_John

And Chittlin's are yummy, as are boiled peanuts.

Heh. This might rather be a thread on what foods are beyond posters comfort zones...
Daistallia 2104
05-10-2008, 18:51
Real Texas barbecue is the truth. So good.

Sound off brother!!!! :D
Fassitude
05-10-2008, 18:57
But you don't know what it tastes like.

Oh dear, I had completely forgotten how inane your posts tended to be. There are plenty of things I don't know the taste of, but that are awful for consumption. It just so happens, though, I know what animal flesh and their secretions taste like - my parents were unconscionable with the dietary abuse they subjected me as a child to, just to name one small anecdote. So, in addition to telling you to keep up, I am going to ask you to stop posting such pointless replies to me. My patience wears thin with your ignorant, and no doubt unintentional, sophistry this evening.
Arroza
05-10-2008, 18:59
Hoppin' John's basically beans and rice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoppin%27_John

And Chittlin's are yummy, as are boiled peanuts.

Heh. This might rather be a thread on what foods are beyond posters comfort zones...

Chitterlings just brings up bad memories of an entire house literally smelling like pig feces for days, in order to eat what was basically the garbage food that our ancestors were given after all the good parts of the pig were eaten.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-10-2008, 19:00
Oh dear, I had completely forgotten how inane your posts tended to be. There are plenty of things I don't know the taste of, but that are awful for consumption. It just so happens, though, I know what animal flesh and their secretions taste like - my parents were unconscionable with the dietary abuse they subjected me as a child to, just to name one small anecdote. So, in addition to telling you to keep up, I am going to ask you to stop posting such pointless replies to me. My patience wears thin with your ignorant, and no doubt unintentional, sophistry this evening.

Then you don't swallow?
Fassitude
05-10-2008, 19:03
Then you don't swallow?

I swallow only with committed partners whose enjoyment I care about on an emotional plane, if you must know. It keeps STI risks much lower, but we weren't talking about human secretions - but if you must know, I do not drink women's lactations at all. *gasp*
Lunatic Goofballs
05-10-2008, 19:07
I swallow only with committed partners whose enjoyment I care about on an emotional plane, if you must know. It keeps STI risks much lower, but we weren't talking about human secretions - but if you must know, I do not drink women's lactations at all. *gasp*

SO you will only eat the secretions of humans and only from those humans that you care deeply for. Any other exceptions I should know about? I have little experience with semen in cuisine.
Fassitude
05-10-2008, 19:11
SO you will only eat the secretions of humans and only from those humans that you care deeply for.

Call me specist, big on consent and GGG.

Any other exceptions I should know about?

None that would be your beeswax, but you are free to ask less circumspectly.

I have little experience with semen in cuisine.

But in other areas of semen usage I am positive you are quite well versed.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-10-2008, 19:15
None that would be your beeswax, but you are free to ask less circumspectly.

Fair enough. What animal-based products do you still eat?



But in other areas of semen usage I am positive you are quite well versed.

It's a very effective industrial lubricant. :)
Fassitude
05-10-2008, 19:24
Fair enough. What animal-based products do you still eat?

B&J ice-cream. I find the chemicals in it nicely disguise the taste of milk.

It's a very effective industrial lubricant. :)

How have you overcome its tendency to primarily congeal and subsequently fall apart in its constituents once exposed to air/different pH/enzymes/mucous membranes?
Lunatic Goofballs
05-10-2008, 19:31
B&J ice-cream. I find the chemicals in it nicely disguise the taste of milk.

Mmm....xanthan gum!



How have you overcome its tendency to primarily congeal and subsequently fall apart in its constituents once exposed to air/different pH/enzymes/mucous membranes?

Frequent re-application. :D
Fassitude
05-10-2008, 19:35
Mmm....xanthan gum!

I believe they use guar gum and carrageenan, but I am much more partial to their alkali-treated cocoa.

Frequent re-application. :D

Not very effective then, is it? The semen, not your expulsions. The latter I imagine to be sufficiently projecting.
greed and death
05-10-2008, 19:39
Never tried it.

you are missing the best food know to man go shoot yourself.
Lunatic Goofballs
05-10-2008, 19:40
I believe they use guar gum and carrageenan, but I am much more partial to their alkali-treated cocoa.



Not very effective then, is it? The semen, not your expulsions. The latter I imagine to be sufficiently projecting.

As fun as this is, I am going to do the unexpected and swerve this back toward the topic for the time being. How do you feel about seafood? Southern cuisine does some interesting things with seafood.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
05-10-2008, 19:51
What do you mean "real" barbecue? Tennessee dry ribs or stuff that's been basting in the sauce forever? Ketchup-based, mustard-based or vinegar-based? Pulled or ribs or does it matter?
All these questions are irrelevant as fried chicken and corn bread kick the ass of that silly ass pork stuff. Oh god, I am so hungry now.
Hydesland
05-10-2008, 19:55
Oh dear, I had completely forgotten how inane your posts tended to be. There are plenty of things I don't know the taste of, but that are awful for consumption.

That's different, you specifically said that you were referring to taste, when calling it awful, as well as other things.


It just so happens, though, I know what animal flesh and their secretions taste like - my parents were unconscionable with the dietary abuse they subjected me as a child to, just to name one small anecdote.

Ah, so now you're contradicting yourself. When I asked "have you actually tried them?", you should have said 'yes'.
Dakini
05-10-2008, 20:56
I'm not huge on southern food... there don't tend to be many vegetarian options and there will also sometimes be unmentioned meat.

But cornbread is delicious. If one groups Cajun food as Southern food then bastardized meatless versions of various food is delicious.
Heinleinites
06-10-2008, 18:00
Those are all great options. I had biscuits and gravy and ham steak and eggs and grits for breakfast this morning, along with a whole mess of coffee. You did leave out chili, though. The proper kind, with a lot of meat and spices and no beans. It's terrible how some people will ruin a good chili with beans. That'll get you cut in Texas, you know.
Nikkiovakia
06-10-2008, 20:13
Jambalaya and Gumbo are both awesome. Grits are the nastier thing I've ever tasted.
German Nightmare
06-10-2008, 20:15
In response to the people slagging off grits in the chopsticks thread.

Do you like Southern US cuisine?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_the_Southern_United_States
I voted "other" and meant "all of the above"!

I lived in NC on and off, and I really enjoyed the cuisine.
greed and death
06-10-2008, 20:22
you didnt put jello and mac and cheese as a option.
Wowmaui
06-10-2008, 20:24
What do you mean "real" barbecue? Tennessee dry ribs or stuff that's been basting in the sauce forever? Ketchup-based, mustard-based or vinegar-based? Pulled or ribs or does it matter?
All these questions are irrelevant as fried chicken and corn bread kick the ass of that silly ass pork stuff. Oh god, I am so hungry now.
Dry rub is ok for ribs (beef or pork), but I tend to prefer a spicy, vinegar base sauce over sweet/tangy tomato paste or mustard base sauces.

A good, spicy smoked beef brisket is my favorite.