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Many people think a new World War is coming soon to a theatre nearby.

What do you think?

With the financial collapse, who has the money to fight a war?

A new world war is highly unlikely. However we are probably seeing the beginings of a new cold war devolping between the west and Russia. Just look at whats been hapening recently -

· In September 2007 Russia resumed flight operations for nuclear capable bombers in Northern Europe, with UK and Norwegian planes being forced to head them off repeatedly

· Various spying incidents, including Litvenyenko incident and issues in Moscow with the spy rock and the Tit for tat deportation of diplomats, plus Russia’s banning of the British Council

· Russian use of oil and gas reserves to try to influence Europe reminiscent of cold war

· The development of plans for a Missile defence scheme in Europe by the US and Putin’s counters with threats to pull out of post cold war treaty’s on nuclear weapons

· In August 2008 a senior Russian general threatens a nuclear attack on Poland in response to aiding the USA

· Russian Invasion of Georgia. The war in the US backed state is similar to of the cold war when Russian and US satellite states were regularly used for puppet conflicts

There will not be a new world war. World wars were all fought against Germany trying to expand.
Look, there is too much communication for WW3. Even if Russia became the USSR again, the Russian citizens would remember the taste of democracy and revolt.
Russia will not start WW3 against US because the US gives them heavy supplies of wheat. US will not start WW3 on Russia because they get huge supplies of oil from Russia.
China will not start WW3 against America because, really, they need America more than America needs China. They will not start WW3 with Russia because of good ol' black gold.
The UK will instantly **** themselves if they started WW3, then be attacked by, you know, the world.
America will not start WW3. They just will not.

The only way a World War could start is because terrorists nuked somewhere like Washington, Moscow, Beijing, London, Berlin, Paris, Rome and Madrid.
There will be many wars, countless wars, bloody wars..but no World War III.

There will not be a new world war. World wars were all fought against Germany trying to expand.

Hermes: We can't compete with Mom! Her company is big and evil! Ours is small and neutral!
That Guy: Switzerland is small and neutral! We are more like Germany, ambitious and misunderstood!
Amy: Look, everyone wants to be like Germany, but do we really have the pure strength of will?

*loves Futurama*

With the financial collapse, who has the money to fight a war?
You don't need money for a war, contrary to what Bush is making the Americans pay for his. All you need is some hate and some muscle and you've got your war.

I don't think we can have another world war, unless the economy becomes less globalised. The way things are right now, China and the USA are intertwined economically, and therefore cannot go to war with each other, and the same goes for India. Russia could go to war with China, or the EU, or similar, but would be destroyed economically in the process.

With the financial collapse, who has the money to fight a war?

Yeah I imagine some people thought the exact same thing in the 1930s.

Yeah, you don't need that much money to have a good fight.

Yes, the war is coming. But not until the rioting phase is over. Then we have to persecute a minority. Only then can we have the war.

With the financial collapse, who has the money to fight a war?

If it is a war of conquest, the money will come from the resources and infrastructure you'll net. Germany was near stony broke at the onset of it's expansion phase, but they managed to boom their economy by plundering the assets of their neighbors.

Nowadays, a war of conquest is more difficult among the superpowers, unless nukes are removed from the equation entirely. Even if never employed as an offensive weapon, no country would hesitate to use them to defend their territory with scorched earth tactics and booby trapped cities if it looked like they would lose everything.

I doubt we'll see full scale wars between large nations, but a growth in proxy wars in Africa and Latin America is very likely.

I suppose it's too much to hope that the next World War will be a prank war, isn't it? :(

I suppose it's too much to hope that the next World War will be a prank war, isn't it? :(Maybe the next world war that's 'looking around the corner' is waiting there for us with a water balloon....

A new World War is looking around the corner, no?

Exactly so. No.

I doubt we'll see full scale wars between large nations, but a growth in proxy wars in Africa and Latin America is very likely.

Agreed. I expect Zimbabwe sooner or later.

It don't matter if a war breaks out or not, I still 'aint fighting.

America will not start WW3. They just will not.
America is known for its peaceful ways.
You don't need money for a war, contrary to what Bush is making the Americans pay for his. All you need is some hate and some muscle and you've got your war.
If all you have is hate and muscle then you're fucked, cos the other guys has guns and bombs and tanks and shit like that.
I suppose it's too much to hope that the next World War will be a prank war, isn't it? :(

The world is constantly engaged in a prank war. It just doesn't realise it.

The world is constantly engaged in a prank war. It just doesn't realise it.

That's because they call it diplomacy.

With the financial collapse, who has the money to fight a war?

Actually war can be beneficial to the economy, the US was destitute prior to Pearl Harbor, but with a war on suddenly there were jobs and millions of unemployed who took those jobs which not only eliminated unemployment but at the same made all industry focus on war materials which in turn made America prosperous with an overabundance of war supplies and resources. The same happened in Germany during the rise of of the Nazi party, if only Hitler and his government decided not to squander and waste their resources they would have won. Thank God the US knew how to apply their resources properly.

Secondly the war could be fought over economic reasons. The war could be fought just for the sake of stabilizing the economy, the war could be fought to exploit other nations and their resources.

America is known for its peaceful ways.

If all you have is hate and muscle then you're fucked, cos the other guys has guns and bombs and tanks and shit like that.



Muscle is also term synonymous with guns, ships, tanks and bombs ect.

Russia is piss-weak (http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12262231), the only thing they've got going for them are nukes. And only the ones on missiles, because their bombers are useless.

So no, they don't want a war. Neither does Europe. And the US doesn't have the money for it (the thing the US government did have before WWII was managable government debt and goodwill from cash-rich, domestic creditors), nor would any president be able to convince the public that invading countries is a good idea for a decade or more to come.

There is simply no one in the world who'd have an interest in a major war.

There is simply no one in the world who'd have an interest in a major war.

What about the doomsday cults?

A war between major world-powers, probably not. I reckon that the WWIII will effectively be due to to a large number of simultaneous proxy wars as the major powers fight for control over resources and spheres of influences. With WMDs, none of the major powers wants to fight a direct war against each other.

Russia is piss-weak (http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12262231), the only thing they've got going for them are nukes. And only the ones on missiles, because their bombers are useless.

To be fair they wouldn't need bombers for full scale nuclear war anyway, when missiles would be more effective.

Even if Russia became the USSR again, the Russian citizens would remember the taste of democracy and revolt.



Democracy gave us that shitbag Yeltsin, so I doubt it. NOBODY liked him.

There is simply no one in the world who'd have an interest in a major war.

The military industrial complex would.

Eh, the coming world wide resource wars are pretty much inevitable at this point. The question is when, where, how, and with what? The why and if has already been answered.

With the financial collapse, who has the money to fight a war?

You don't need money for a war, contrary to what Bush is making the Americans pay for his. All you need is some hate and some muscle and you've got your war.

And while they can't find money for education or the public school system due to the American government being so deep in the hole, there never seems to be any problems scrounging up a measly trillion dollars here and there for war.

There will not be a new world war. World wars were all fought against Germany trying to expand.
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Why are so many shitting themselves over a world war? America is NOT dead and there will be NO world war! You can stop digging that bomb shelter and hording canned goods and get back to living your life now. :rolleyes:

Why are so many shitting themselves over a world war? America is NOT dead and there will be NO world war! You can stop digging that bomb shelter and hording canned goods and get back to living your life now. :rolleyes:
Isn't it a good American tradition to have your own bomb shelter in the backyard with enough canned beans to last you another three weeks after Day X?

Isn't it a good American tradition to have your own bomb shelter in the backyard with enough canned beans to last you another three weeks after Day X?



What propaganda machine said that? America was never really like that, some think it was but it wasn't.

Isn't it a good American tradition to have your own bomb shelter in the backyard with enough canned beans to last you another three weeks after Day X?
The Department of Homeland Security advises Americans to do that, but only a few heavily armed nutjobs actually do it.

What propaganda machine said that? America was never really like that, some think it was but it wasn't.
Right...

Given, a little dated, but it was actually the U.S. Federal Civil Defense Administration:

Duck and Cover (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0213381/).
A Day Called X (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0770737/).

So, it appears that the propaganda machine you refer to is that of the United States of America and America really was like that, and appears to still be like that sometimes.

Why R peoples so angry about the coming war? This is what always happens when everyone is insolvent. I have posted about it before.

U should all look at this as a big adventure . It is better that you die on the steps of the Capitol in the battle of CLINTON DC, than U end up working in a call center for people who speak mandarin.

Think of it as a once in a lifetime opportunity. That is if you survive the rioty bits that will come first.(Note to people who know me. I am paying back people who pissed me off x100 when the legal grid goes offline. Make amends now).

Think of it as an economic war. Capitalists vs Socialists. This could result in a civil war in the US. Capitalist citizens vs a Socialist Corrupt Ugly Massive Government.

Right...

Given, a little dated, but it was actually the U.S. Federal Civil Defense Administration:

Duck and Cover (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0213381/).
A Day Called X (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0770737/).

So, it appears that the propaganda machine you refer to is that of the United States of America and America really was like that, and appears to still be like that sometimes.



Right....:rolleyes: I'll take your word over people who ACTUALLY LIVED thru it anyday. You Betcha! :rolleyes:

AGAIN! America was never really like that, most never bought into it. We are also not like that now.

I'd say yes, depending on how you define soon. Of course, theirs always the possibillity that the mid east will spin out of control, but I'm inclined to think its at least as likely that WW3 will be started by an accidental launch or some other error.

Given the pressenes of nuclear weapons, it'll happen sooner or later. which is why I say yes, depending on how you define soon.

Think of it as an economic war. Capitalists vs Socialists. This could result in a civil war in the US. Capitalist citizens vs a Socialist Corrupt Ugly Massive Government.

The ultimate republican wet dream?

The US is no where near socialism, and if you think it is, I fear you are too wrapped up in a fanatical agenda to think rationally.

Why are so many shitting themselves over a world war? America is NOT dead and there will be NO world war! You can stop digging that bomb shelter and hording canned goods and get back to living your life now. :rolleyes:

[FOILHAT]*gasp* HE'S WITH THEM! :eek: *runs*[FOILHAT/]

[FOILHAT]*gasp* HE'S WITH THEM! :eek: *runs*[FOILHAT/]

Yep, I was hired by Barack Obama to trick you into thinking there is nothing wrong so when he declares on Canada nobody will see it coming! MUAHAHAHA!!!:mp5:

Hell, the day we annex Canada in to the Greater American Empire is the day I join the Party. I sort of like the sound of "Gauleiter of Toronto", personally.

Hell, the day we annex Canada in to the Greater American Empire is the day I join the Party. I sort of like the sound of "Gauleiter of Toronto", personally.

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauPhotos/OldPhotos/HitlerApril1945.jpg

If a new World War is coming, I would rather have a President McCain then an Obama.

I don't think it will be soon. It will happen eventually, though. Especially if the human population keeps growing the way it has. Have we reached 7 billion yet?

I guarantee you ever single one of the people who voted that there will be a war, secretly want one and think it'd be "Super cool"

The same happened in Germany during the rise of of the Nazi party, if only Hitler and his government decided not to squander and waste their resources they would have won.

No resources were squandered, almost everything was put into the military, so you lose.

Have we reached 7 billion yet?

No, we're still on 6.68 billion odd.

7 Billion will suck. Can we all just take a pact to stop breeding for like, a year.
Just to offset the overpopulation.
One year would be enough :p

No resources were squandered, almost everything was put into the military, so you lose.

It was horribly squandered on superweapon projects that did far less damage than it would have had the resources been focused on more practical weapons in the immediate term.

And then there was the whole two front war thing.

It was horribly squandered on superweapon projects that did far less damage than it would have had the resources been focused on more practical weapons in the immediate term.

And then there was the whole two front war thing.

Yes, the Russian front really wore down the Germans.

It seems laughable that people think the Axis could have won, doesn't it? How could they possibly match the combined resources of America, Russia, and The British Commonwealth?

I guarantee you ever single one of the people who voted that there will be a war, secretly want one and think it'd be "Super cool"

As someone who voted yes, I can say that you are quite definitely wrong.;)

Nazi Germany lost 85% of their total casualites on the eastern front. From my point of view, World War Two consists of two parts,
1: The conflict between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany
2. The expansion of the Japanese Empire and its war against China and the United States

If you count the number of dead, the western allies barely lost any troops at all. The military and civilian deaths of Russia, Germany, China and Japan were massive. The biggest American contribution to the war was the lend-lease.

So, Germany, then the worlds largest economy (still Europe's largest economy) COULD have won the war. Imagine if they had kept the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact? Then the cold war had been between Germany and the Soviet Union, but then again, Communism/Socialism and National Socialism are very closely related, both are based on violence.

Nazi Germany lost 85% of their total casualites on the eastern front. From my point of view, World War Two consists of two parts,
1: The conflict between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany
2. The expansion of the Japanese Empire and its war against China and the United States

If you count the number of dead, the western allies barely lost any troops at all. The military and civilian deaths of Russia, Germany, China and Japan were massive. The biggest American contribution to the war was the lend-lease.

So, Germany, then the worlds largest economy (still Europe's largest economy) COULD have won the war. Imagine if they had kept the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact? Then the cold war had been between Germany and the Soviet Union, but then again, Communism/Socialism and National Socialism are very closely related, both are based on violence.

They are both based on violence. And also follow fundimentally different economic philosophies. So I guess your local gang and National Socialism are closely related, since they are both based on violence.:rolleyes:

Sooner or later, Russia would have fought the Nazis. If their's one thing the Nazi's hated almost as much as Jews, it was Communists. Historical evidence suggests that the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was just buying time for both parties.

It was horribly squandered on superweapon projects that did far less damage than it would have had the resources been focused on more practical weapons in the immediate term.

And then there was the whole two front war thing.

I think the two (and at one point three) front war was the bigger problem, personally. Invading Russia just... doesn't seem to turn out as a profitable venture most of the time. Part of it is, of course, that the geography and climate of Russia really helps defend it. I mean, there's just so damn much of it, that the Russians can just retreat back almost endlessly while the invader's supply lines grow longer and longer. And of course, the Russian winter, which while hard on the Russians themselves, is even harder on those who aren't accustomed to it, such as the invading German armies.

Yes, the Russian front really wore down the Germans.

It seems laughable that people think the Axis could have won, doesn't it? How could they possibly match the combined resources of America, Russia, and The British Commonwealth?

If it hadn't been for some really costly mistakes, Germany might have one. One terrible decision was shifting the bombing in the UK from airfields to the cities. Terrifying to the civilian population, yes, but they're not the ones flying the fighter planes. Germany lost any chance they had to knock Britain out of the war with this blunder.

Also, there was so much botched with the war against the Soviet Union that I'm not even going to go into it all.

Germany, if it starts WWIII, will instantly be attacked by all of the United States of America's allies.
In WWII, they wasted the chance to destroy Britain by, as Callisdurn stated, not bombing the airfields but bombing the cities. However, the combined force of the USA and the Soviet Union will still have destroyed the Nazis.

Did you Know?
In WWII, many German civillans believed that Nazi Germany, America and Britain would join forces and destroy the USSR.

The above statement is FACT.

They are both based on violence. And also follow fundimentally different economic philosophies. So I guess your local gang and National Socialism are closely related, since they are both based on violence.:rolleyes:

Sooner or later, Russia would have fought the Nazis. If their's one thing the Nazi's hated almost as much as Jews, it was Communists. Historical evidence suggests that the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was just buying time for both parties.

I think that you should try to read a book once in a while, it might be good for you. You can start out by looking at the pictures.

I would guess that you are an American, and that you have been told from an early age that Nazis are bad people who try to kill everyone they "hate".

Who started World War Two? The English and the French did by declaring war on Germany, and France even tried to attack Germany. Germany responded like any country would have done, to defend the German fatherland. The Russians already knew what strength Germany had, and that was why they signed the Moltov-Ribbentrop pact.

I think that you should try to read a book once in a while, it might be good for you. You can start out by looking at the pictures.

I would guess that you are an American, and that you have been told from an early age that Nazis are bad people who try to kill everyone they "hate".

Who started World War Two? The English and the French did by declaring war on Germany, and France even tried to attack Germany. Germany responded like any country would have done, to defend the German fatherland. The Russians already knew what strength Germany had, and that was why they signed the Moltov-Ribbentrop pact.

France and the UK had guaranteed Poland's independence and that gave them a reason to go to war with Germany.

Germany, if it starts WWIII, will instantly be attacked by all of the United States of America's allies.
In WWII, they wasted the chance to destroy Britain by, as Callisdurn stated, not bombing the airfields but bombing the cities. However, the combined force of the USA and the Soviet Union will still have destroyed the Nazis.

Did you Know?
In WWII, many German civillans believed that Nazi Germany, America and Britain would join forces and destroy the USSR.

The above statement is FACT.

The second part makes sense... but the part about Germany starting WWIII... are you serious? Why the hell would they do a stupid thing like that?

The second part makes sense... but the part about Germany starting WWIII... are you serious? Why the hell would they do a stupid thing like that?
We wouldn't. (Not unless I say so, anyway *gasp*)

I think that you should try to read a book once in a while, it might be good for you. You can start out by looking at the pictures.

I would guess that you are an American, and that you have been told from an early age that Nazis are bad people who try to kill everyone they "hate".

Who started World War Two? The English and the French did by declaring war on Germany, and France even tried to attack Germany. Germany responded like any country would have done, to defend the German fatherland. The Russians already knew what strength Germany had, and that was why they signed the Moltov-Ribbentrop pact.

No, Germany attacked France, and it had already invaded Czechoslovakia and Poland, as well as the Saar and the Rhineland so YOU read a book.

No, Germany attacked France, and it had already invaded Czechoslovakia and Poland, as well as the Saar and the Rhineland so YOU read a book.

The Saar and the Rhineland where German teritory. He is also correct to say that Britain and France declared war on Germnay, not the other way round. However Germany is generally held to be to blame for world war two.

With the financial collapse, who has the money to fight a war?

Well i think Russia has proven that she doesnt need to be rich to win wars

China doesnt need money to fight a war, it just needs to round up thousands of its own, give them guns, and tell them to fight or be executed

american used to have money then wasted most of it on its invasion of the middle east, and is still wasting alot on that, so now couldnt possibly face a world war as it has little money and few combat-ready reserve troops to do anything

With the financial collapse, who has the money to fight a war?

Well i think Russia has proven that she doesnt need to be rich to win wars

China doesnt need money to fight a war, it just needs to round up thousands of its own, give them guns, and tell them to fight or be executed

american used to have money then wasted most of it on its invasion of the middle east, and is still wasting alot on that, so now couldnt possibly face a world war as it has little money and few combat-ready reserve troops to do anything

*waves a little Soviet flag and chants "Russia For The Win"*:D

The Saar and the Rhineland where German teritory.
They were a demilitarized zone. Germany specifically was not allowed to have troops there.

They were a demilitarized zone. Germany specifically was not allowed to have troops there.

However during Chamberlains policy of apeasment the German rearmanent was accepted, as was the moving of troops into de-militarised areas. Moving soldiers into a demilitarised zone is not an invasion.

I think that global environmental catastrophe is more likely than another world war. In an "us versus the planet " battle, we won't win.

Yes, the war is coming. But not until the rioting phase is over. Then we have to persecute a minority. Only then can we have the war.

We can use the shorter process of assassinating a head of state. It worked for WWI . . .

Germany/Hungary and Russia were to share Eastern Europe between themselves, England and France had no reason to interfere, but they overestimated their power (England seems to do this a lot) and declared war on Germany, starting World War II.

England and France had no right to declare war for this reason.

Germany/Hungary and Russia were to share Eastern Europe between themselves, England and France had no reason to interfere, but they overestimated their power (England seems to do this a lot) and declared war on Germany, starting World War II.

England and France had no right to declare war for this reason.

They had pledged their support for Poland.

Germany had no right to invade Poland.

Also I think it was a very good thing that the Nazi leadership of Germany was eventually removed. I think that about most genocidal regimes, though. And yes, I do think the Nazis were bad people. Mass murder tends to make me form such opinions about people.

They had pledged their support for Poland.

Germany had no right to invade Poland.

Also I think it was a very good thing that the Nazi leadership of Germany was eventually removed. I think that about most genocidal regimes, though. And yes, I do think the Nazis were bad people. Mass murder tends to make me form such opinions about people.

What right had England and France to "pledge their support for Poland" ?

The control of Eastern Europe was something to be worked out by Germany and the Soviet Union, England had nothing to do with it, and had no right to interfere.

You can discuss if the national socialists were good or bad, but I think that the Allied forces had no right to "remove" the leadership of Germany, even if their propaganda said so.

"I do think the Nazis were bad people. Mass murder tends to make me form such opinions about people."

Predjudice, Americans and Stupidity usually appear together on internet forums, and you are just another example. You think that national socialists are bad people just because they have a certain political opinion?

Mass murder? What about the allied war crimes against Germany and its allies? Do you think that England, France, USA, Russia, China, NZ, Austrailia, and so on were all bad people? They were responsible for mass murder, mass rape, and so on, believe me.

There will not be a new world war. World wars were all fought against Germany trying to expand.
Look, there is too much communication for WW3. Even if Russia became the USSR again, the Russian citizens would remember the taste of democracy and revolt.
Russia will not start WW3 against US because the US gives them heavy supplies of wheat. US will not start WW3 on Russia because they get huge supplies of oil from Russia.
China will not start WW3 against America because, really, they need America more than America needs China. They will not start WW3 with Russia because of good ol' black gold.
The UK will instantly **** themselves if they started WW3, then be attacked by, you know, the world.
America will not start WW3. They just will not.

The only way a World War could start is because terrorists nuked somewhere like Washington, Moscow, Beijing, London, Berlin, Paris, Rome and Madrid.
There will be many wars, countless wars, bloody wars..but no World War III.
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The act which is considered to have triggered the succession of events which led to war was the 28 June 1914 assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, by Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb citizen of Austria-Hungary and member of the Young Bosnia. The retaliation by Austria-Hungary against the Kingdom of Serbia activated a series of alliances that set off a chain reaction of war declarations. Within a month, much of Europe was in a state of open warfare.
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Yes, the germans started all of the world wars. They did it all by themselfs. :rolleyes:

What right had England and France to "pledge their support for Poland" ?

The control of Eastern Europe was something to be worked out by Germany and the Soviet Union, England had nothing to do with it, and had no right to interfere.

You can discuss if the national socialists were good or bad, but I think that the Allied forces had no right to "remove" the leadership of Germany, even if their propaganda said so.

"I do think the Nazis were bad people. Mass murder tends to make me form such opinions about people."

Predjudice, Americans and Stupidity usually appear together on internet forums, and you are just another example. You think that national socialists are bad people just because they have a certain political opinion?

Mass murder? What about the allied war crimes against Germany and its allies? Do you think that England, France, USA, Russia, China, NZ, Austrailia, and so on were all bad people? They were responsible for mass murder, mass rape, and so on, believe me.

The UK and France had every bit as much right to support Poland as Germany and the USSR had to decide who controlled other countries.

Germany, if it starts WWIII, will instantly be attacked by all of the United States of America's allies.
In WWII, they wasted the chance to destroy Britain by, as Callisdurn stated, not bombing the airfields but bombing the cities. However, the combined force of the USA and the Soviet Union will still have destroyed the Nazis.

Did you Know?
In WWII, many German civillans believed that Nazi Germany, America and Britain would join forces and destroy the USSR.

The above statement is FACT.

Germany would never do anything like that today, because Germany is no longer ruled by Nazis.

Secondly, I did know that. Hitler believed it too.

Germany/Hungary and Russia were to share Eastern Europe between themselves, England and France had no reason to interfere, but they overestimated their power (England seems to do this a lot) and declared war on Germany, starting World War II.

England and France had no right to declare war for this reason.

Yes, they did. They pledged to defend Poland against German aggression. Germany invaded Poland.

Casus Beli.

Yes, they did. They pledged to defend Poland against German aggression. Germany invaded Poland.

Casus Beli.
You know, with people like Verlinden, I believe the only way to beat some sense into them would be to smack them with a heavy book of World History time and again.

You know, with people like Verlinden, I believe the only way to beat some sense into them would be to smack them with a heavy book of World History time and again.

Not necessarily. Simply teach the circumstances again and again in different ways until they understand.

If any German official even mentions starting a war, I'm sure they'd...disappear.

German Nightmare's idea of hitting Verlinden in the head sounds like a bright idea for a friend of mine who happens to be a Chinese Communist...

Anyhow, Do I think there will be a WWIII? I hope not! But anything is possible and though man is capable of rational, moral thought it is seldom does he use it. I do not think Germany will/has start(ed) it or Russia for that matter. In fact I would say either America or Al Qaeda have set events in motion. I see two potential flashpoints: Israel v. Iran or US v. N. Korea. I am not sure how WWIII would turn out, but I predict there may be several massive regime changes in many countries with my America not being immune. I would go so far to say a paradigm shift or revolution in human thought may occur, for better or worse I cannot say. 'Tis scary times we live in comrades, guess we just have to pray that everything turns out well.