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Where's the memory of god?

Hairless Kitten
03-10-2008, 10:41
God is tracking us, to decide if we deserve an entrance in heaven or not.

He or she is tracking everything and all of us, it should have some kind of massive memory device, including one or more several backup systems.

Nobody knows when god is solving the hell/heaven problem. Instantly, when you become death? A few seconds later, hours, days, years or ages later?

In a way it’s assumable that it’s at least not that long after your death. If it would take months, years or ages then your soul (or whatever you call this kind of state) should be stored somewhere. The big religions are not talking about such a waiting room.

So where’s the memory of god?

Well, at least not that far away from Earth, since nothing can perform faster than light (the speed of light = 299 792 458 meter / second). For the ease of efficiency it should be away just a few light-seconds from this planet.

Why didn’t we detect that memory device yet? That memory, let it be driven biological or technical, is consuming huge amounts of energy. With all those Hubbles and friends, shouldn’t we capable of capturing the traces of the consumed energy?

So, where is it? Or is there no god at all?
That Imperial Navy
03-10-2008, 10:43
Well, I'm gonna wait 'till I die then see what happens. Untill then i'm gonna live in ignorant bliss.
Tsrill
03-10-2008, 10:50
In an alternative dimension outside our universe.

For the ease of efficiency it should be away just a few light-seconds from this planet.?
Why? I mean, there must be a reason why we need to wait till judgement day for the final judgement...

Now what I really want to know is: where is the god of memory?
Rambhutan
03-10-2008, 11:05
I look after the naughty list for him, and my have you all been bad.
Vault 10
03-10-2008, 12:38
God is tracking us, to decide if we deserve an entrance in heaven or not. [...]

So where’s the memory of god?

Inside us all, of course - distributed and transferred using BitTorrent.


G-d only runs the tracker.
Callisdrun
03-10-2008, 12:43
God is tracking us, to decide if we deserve an entrance in heaven or not.

He or she is tracking everything and all of us, it should have some kind of massive memory device, including one or more several backup systems.

Nobody knows when god is solving the hell/heaven problem. Instantly, when you become death? A few seconds later, hours, days, years or ages later?

In a way it’s assumable that it’s at least not that long after your death. If it would take months, years or ages then your soul (or whatever you call this kind of state) should be stored somewhere. The big religions are not talking about such a waiting room.

So where’s the memory of god?

Well, at least not that far away from Earth, since nothing can perform faster than light (the speed of light = 299 792 458 meter / second). For the ease of efficiency it should be away just a few light-seconds from this planet.

Why didn’t we detect that memory device yet? That memory, let it be driven biological or technical, is consuming huge amounts of energy. With all those Hubbles and friends, shouldn’t we capable of capturing the traces of the consumed energy?

So, where is it? Or is there no god at all?

You know that line in the Mr. Grinch song? About the 39 and a half foot pole? And the not touching?

Yeah....
Forensatha
03-10-2008, 12:43
I gave the Big Divine a call. He said, "Earth? I made that place? Oh, I guess I did. Um... whatever you believe, it's cool. Yeah, that's exactly what's going to happen. Mistakes? Working as intended. War and all of that? Working as intended, but I'll get back to you... Now, I have more import... er, I mean, minor worlds to briefly check. Yeah, your world is really important to me..."

I'm not exactly expecting a callback.
Corporate Policing
03-10-2008, 12:57
I myself believe not in God, although should I, I would believe that Gods memory (as a great an omnipitent being) would be infinitely calculating and instantanious. If he or she could create our itire world and indeed universe in a mere seven days (as genesis suggests) then surely he or she could cope with the every day running of a simple six billion people. The human brain has the capicity to hold millions, of words, memories, subjects, and indulgances, and we are small and insignificant, each of us one of many billions, so therefore God must have a memory at least equally to scale in his or her comparative size which would therefore mean he could deal with us without a backup. Besides, should he or she have this backup memory it would simply be part of the being as the world is supposed to be. In short God would need no back up memory and even if he/she did it would be part of the being.
Nikkiovakia
03-10-2008, 13:00
I look after the naughty list for him, and my have you all been bad.

Yes, I am on the naughty list, God knows this and has ceased tracking me, using just a little less energy.
Ashmoria
03-10-2008, 13:03
pluto.
Forensatha
03-10-2008, 13:04
I myself believe not in God, although should I, I would believe that Gods memory (as a great an omnipitent being) would be infinitely calculating and instantanious. If he or she could create our itire world and indeed universe in a mere seven days (as genesis suggests) then surely he or she could cope with the every day running of a simple six billion people. The human brain has the capicity to hold millions, of words, memories, subjects, and indulgances, and we are small and insignificant, each of us one of many billions, so therefore God must have a memory at least equally to scale in his or her comparative size which would therefore mean he could deal with us without a backup. Besides, should he or she have this backup memory it would simply be part of the being as the world is supposed to be. In short God would need no back up memory and even if he/she did it would be part of the being.

I actually would disagree with that premise. For one thing, it assumes that the metaphysical being in question actually exists inside this universe, despite the fact there is actually no evidence to support that assumption. For the most part, the divinity in question has acted through agents that pass along commands... which suggests that, actually, the divinity in question exists outside the universe.

Secondly, you're assuming a lot about the nature of the universe compared to the divinity. The divinity in question could actually run a universe using average modern human intelligence, as long as the universe existed outside of them and they could pause it at any time to fix problems. Since we wouldn't notice these pauses and most often the fixes would be temporally retroactive, it would create an appearance on our end of omniscience and omnipotence that may not actually exist within the divinity in question.
Ifreann
03-10-2008, 13:28
Dude, God has a ∞GB memory stick
Vampire Knight Zero
03-10-2008, 13:32
Dude, God has a ∞GB memory stick

I bet it was made in Japan.
Ifreann
03-10-2008, 13:34
I bet it was made in Japan.

More than likely.
Vampire Knight Zero
03-10-2008, 13:35
More than likely.

I bet god has a "Hello Kitty" USB Stick.
Ifreann
03-10-2008, 13:53
I bet god has a "Hello Kitty" USB Stick.

God likes Hello Kitty? Then why does he keep sending earthquakes to destroy Tokyo?
Vampire Knight Zero
03-10-2008, 13:54
God likes Hello Kitty? Then why does he keep sending earthquakes to destroy Tokyo?

Oh no, thats just Godzilla.
Ifreann
03-10-2008, 13:56
Oh no, thats just Godzilla.

I keep getting those two confused.
Vampire Knight Zero
03-10-2008, 13:59
I keep getting those two confused.

It's quite easy to. After all the word "God" is in the name Godzilla.
Ifreann
03-10-2008, 14:00
It's quite easy to. After all the word "God" is in the name Godzilla.

Exactly! God needs to get a new name.
Vampire Knight Zero
03-10-2008, 14:00
Exactly! God needs to get a new name.

How about Percy?
Ifreann
03-10-2008, 14:02
How about Percy?

No, my fish is called Percy. Tony, perhaps?
Vampire Knight Zero
03-10-2008, 14:03
No, my fish is called Percy. Tony, perhaps?

Hmm... Perhaps not with that one - makes me think of Tony the Tiger.
Hydesland
03-10-2008, 14:07
He currently stores it in an IBM's BlueGene/Lm supercomputer, located somewhere in Switzerland.
Ifreann
03-10-2008, 14:08
Hmm... Perhaps not with that one - makes me think of Tony the Tiger.

This is harder than I expected.
Vampire Knight Zero
03-10-2008, 14:10
This is harder than I expected.

Indeed - naming a deity isn't always easy.
Gift-of-god
03-10-2008, 14:23
Memory is storage of information. Information is neither matter nor energy, so it doesn't have to follow a lot of the laws of physics. But it does have to be transmitted, and when it is, then the carrier has to follow the laws of physics.

So, the OP's assumption of having an information storage device close by (I love how relative these terms get when we start talking about astronomical stuff) is only valid if we assume that god is transmitting information across physical space.

Why would god need to do this if god is omnipresent? Or transcendent? Since you're apparently using the Abrahamic god, we can assume that He has these (logically inconsistent) qualities.
Muravyets
03-10-2008, 14:23
I bet god has a "Hello Kitty" USB Stick.
Absolutely. Especially since Hello Kitty died and went to heaven.

http://www.freefever.com/hi5/hi5backgrounds/backgrounds/akittythumb.jpg
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-10-2008, 14:55
Indeed - naming a deity isn't always easy.
That's why all the best religions center on an unnameable, alien entity that exists outside of time and space. You don't have to worry about what to call it, no one can make obscene art about it and people can't write juvenile analysis of your sacred texts because reading them causes instantaneous insanity and/or death.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-10-2008, 14:57
God is tracking us, to decide if we deserve an entrance in heaven or not.
Well, that must be quite easy for him as the last thing any human deserves is eternal paradise. Damnation might be a bit stiff in some cases, but that's just the way boot crumbles your gonads.
Imperial isa
03-10-2008, 15:09
ask a Dog seeing spelling them backward you get God and Dog
Lord Tothe
03-10-2008, 15:15
You must remember that if God created the univrese as we know it, he exists outside of his creation. This explains his omnipotence and omnipresence. he is not constrained by the laws of physics. Thus, if our deaths bring us into the presence of God, our souls are no longer within the envelope of space/time and are no longer detectable to science in any way.
Rambhutan
03-10-2008, 15:27
Rama
Nanatsu no Tsuki
03-10-2008, 16:23
I ate it.
Vampire Knight Zero
03-10-2008, 16:26
I ate it.

What did it taste like? :)
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2008, 16:27
*hacks God*
Nanatsu no Tsuki
03-10-2008, 16:28
What did it taste like? :)

Marmite.:(
Vampire Knight Zero
03-10-2008, 16:28
*hacks God*

Must... resist... urge to post a pic...
Vampire Knight Zero
03-10-2008, 16:29
Marmite.:(

Oh noes! *Feels queasy*
Maineiacs
03-10-2008, 16:29
I look after the naughty list for him, and my have you all been bad.

It's none of your business what I do in the bathroom!!


Wait. Did I say that out loud?:eek:
Lunatic Goofballs
03-10-2008, 16:32
Must... resist... urge to post a pic...

Resistance is futile. :)
Nanatsu no Tsuki
03-10-2008, 16:33
Resistance is futile. :)

You will be pied.
Vampire Knight Zero
03-10-2008, 16:33
Resistance is futile. :)

That's what you think. ;)
The Free Priesthood
03-10-2008, 16:35
First of all, that was amusing.

God is tracking us,

Maybe. Which God?

to decide if we deserve an entrance in heaven or not.

If God is benevolent and executes Her benevolence with godlike style, there is no need to do any tracking to make that decision. We all go to heaven, period.

He or she is tracking everything and all of us, it should have some kind of massive memory device, including one or more several backup systems.

Being outside spacetime means being outside time. Without time there is no need for memory because there is no need to remember things because there is no past.

Nobody knows when god is solving the hell/heaven problem. Instantly, when you become death? A few seconds later, hours, days, years or ages later?

I would guess at the time of the Rapture, if you believe there is going to be one, which I don't. For the huge majority of people that have lived, it would be ages after their death.

If it would take months, years or ages then your soul (or whatever you call this kind of state) should be stored somewhere. The big religions are not talking about such a waiting room.

I don't know enough about the Christian faith / content of the bible to answer this, but I would guess some explanation of where souls go until judgment day.

So where’s the memory of god?

If God has one, I'd imagine it would be somewhere inside Her, provided she has an inside of course. Definitely outside space and time.
Maineiacs
03-10-2008, 16:39
Resistance is futile. :)

You will be pied.


We are the dyslexics of Borg. Futility is resistant. Your ass will be laminated.

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7951/3577840924xf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Hurdegaryp
03-10-2008, 17:01
Since those departed don't blog on the internet about their post mortem existence, any idea about the afterlife is equally valid. If your concept of life after death is based upon the epic stories of Dragonball Z, for example, you're still the intellectual equal of the average evangelical or Mormon.