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I hadn't seen this posted yet.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/17563487/detail.html#

So is anyone here amused by this? I'm rather surprised that they have the balls to print up something like this. of course, the honesty might be a little refreshing if it wasn't so disturbing. I think some people definitely need to be fired over this, but I won't be holding my breath.

Are you kidding? Nothing gives me a laugh like a good old fashioned beatdown of annoying protestors. I'd join in if they want to deputize me.

that's hilarious I want to buy some now. Ps those protesters deserved what they got. something about overturned cars and broke store fronts.

I give this one a meh.

Any officer who would wear such a thing is unfortunately immune to the shame he or she should feel in violating the Constitution -- which they're supposed to protect.

Hmm, this isn't funny really, and whoever made these shirts and distributed them should be fired. As a law enforcement officer, you have to maintain certain mannerism.

This seems like much ado. They didn't actually beat anyone, so let them sell their stupid t-shirts.

But beating liberals is the last fun the police have left, what with all this racial equality and so forth. They can't beat black people for fun any more.

;)

This seems like much ado. They didn't actually beat anyone, so let them sell their stupid t-shirts.
Somehow, most people wouldn't find it funny if one replaced DNC with "Blacks" or "Hispanics".

It seems to me that it is rather inappropriate for police to make light of a gross abuse of their authority, whether or not any abuse was actually perpetrated. I mean, the police seem to have a declining image enough as it is.

But beating liberals is the last fun the police have left, what with all this racial equality and so forth. They can't beat black people for fun any more.

;)
So true.

Add this to the list of reasons of why I dislike fascist pigs...erm Cops.

about as hilarious as rape

I fail to see what the big deal is. Yeah its in poor taste, but so what?

about as hilarious as rape

Some of us find rape hilarious

;)

This seems like much ado. They didn't actually beat anyone, so let them sell their stupid t-shirts.

There was an incident caught on video tape where a woman was struck with a baton, knocked to the ground and the officer yelled "back it up, bitch".

At least no one was actually harmed... unlike here...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-09-18-691883206_x.htm?loc=interstitialskip

TORONTO — Canada's prime minister said Thursday that he will not fire his party's agriculture minister who acknowledged making tasteless jokes last month about a bacteria outbreak linked to processed meats that killed 17 people.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper said he is standing by Jerry Ritz, who apologized Wednesday for making wisecracks about the crisis during an Aug. 30 conference call with scientists, bureaucrats and political staff.

Ritz called the crisis "a death by a thousand cuts -- or should I say cold cuts." And when told about a new death in Prince Edward Island he said: "Please tell me it's (Liberal agriculture critic) Wayne Easter."

Harper acknowledged that the controversy is embarrassing to Ritz, but said it doesn't merit firing him after all his hard work on the listeriosis outbreak.

The Canadian outbreak of listeriosis, a type of food poisoning, was linked to meats produced by Maple Leaf Foods that infected 38 people. There are also 20 suspected cases.

Some of us find rape hilarious

;)

You have no idea what you will be getting yourself into with that statement.

Normally that kind of t-shirt is worn by anarcho-punkrockers.

You have no idea what you will be getting yourself into with that statement.

The mens showers in a prison? :D

Some of us find rape hilarious

;)

some of us should be given post-birth abortions

I think that this is going too far in my opinion. But then, one can't expect much more from a group of thugs on a power trip.

Wouldn't this be covered under the 1st Amendment?

You have no idea what you will be getting yourself into with that statement.

Hench the winking smiley. Poe's law my friend.

Yes, ridiculing them for being idiots is certainly covered under the first amendment.

Its reasonably funny, so I'll let them get away with the bad taste. But when I opened the thread I expected so much more (i.e. a video of savage beatings with the Benny Hill yakety sax over the top)

Yes, ridiculing them for being idiots is certainly covered under the first amendment.

I meant the shirts.

I meant the shirts.

It's a question of taste and decision making ability not strict legality.

I meant the shirts.

I don't see why not but then again I don't see anyone saying that what they did was illegal.

some of us should be given post-birth abortions

Murder is always a good way to fix problems. When in doubt: murder. Slightly irritated: murder. Neighbourhood kids being obnoxious: murder. No more beer in the fridge: murder. Feel free to think of other daily life situations where murder would provide a satisfactory answer. One thing is clear: Sumamba Buwhan has a point. Murder is the key!

Murder is always a good way to fix problems. When in doubt: murder. Slightly irritated: murder. Neighbourhood kids being obnoxious: murder. No more beer in the fridge: murder. Feel free to think of other daily life situations where murder would provide a satisfactory answer. One thing is clear: Sumamba Buwhan has a point. Murder is the key!

Someone wearing white after labor Day? Murder

Someone makes tongue in cheek hyperbole on the internet? Murder

I don't see why not but then again I don't see anyone saying that what they did was illegal.

Nor do I, I've just seen many people on this forum defending controversial free speech when they agree with it, I'd hate to see them become hypocrites by saying this should be banned.

For the record, I'm British so I can say these cops should be stung up by the left testicle without having to worry about the constitution.

Someone wearing white after labor Day? Murder
Did you see Serial Mom (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111127/)?

There was an incident caught on video tape where a woman was struck with a baton, knocked to the ground and the officer yelled "back it up, bitch".

your leaving out the part where the police office ordered her to get back where she was supposed to be. And the investigation saw no issue with the officers actions.

But beating liberals is the last fun the police have left, what with all this racial equality and so forth. They can't beat black people for fun any more.

;)seeing that it was people protesting the DNC... won't they be Conservatives instead of Liberals?

Somehow, most people wouldn't find it funny if one replaced DNC with "Blacks" or "Hispanics". That's like saying replace the word "Crowd" with "Traffic Jam"

There was an incident caught on video tape where a woman was struck with a baton, knocked to the ground and the officer yelled "back it up, bitch".
hmmm... you mean the woman who didn't obey the officer and even grabbed his baton?
In once incident, an officer was videotaped pushing a protester to the ground with his baton and telling her, "Back up, b----."

The district attorney declined to prosecute the officer, saying the woman had disobeyed warnings to back away and had grabbed the officer's baton.

Nor do I, I've just seen many people on this forum defending controversial free speech when they agree with it, I'd hate to see them become hypocrites by saying this should be banned.

For the record, I'm British so I can say these cops should be stung up by the left testicle without having to worry about the constitution.

Yeah, I'd join in you pouncing on anyone who says that it should be illegal.

Did you see Serial Mom (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111127/)?

Yes! That was where I got the idea. Horrible movie but had some funny points.

Any officer who would wear such a thing is unfortunately immune to the shame he or she should feel in violating the Constitution -- which they're supposed to protect.


So you are implying that a person that is bound to protect and defend the Constitution, which includes the part about free speech is somehow not allowed to have the same right?

It would be one thing if the shirts were made by the PD, which they were not. They were made by the officer's union, which is a separate entity and not a part of the PD nor the city. Therefore, they also have the same right to free speech

your leaving out the part where the police office ordered her to get back where she was supposed to be. And the investigation saw no issue with the officers actions.

I was responding to the claim that they didn't actually beat anyone. Did I claim that the officer was wrong in what he did? Calm down champ.


hmmm... you mean the woman who didn't obey the officer and even grabbed his baton?

Yep, that's the woman I meant. I don't think anyone else was caught on tape striking anyone, but I could be wrong about that.

Serial Mom was based on a true story, right? Beverly R. Sutphin is a perfect role model when it comes to the glorious principle of murder as the ultimate problem solver.

In once incident, an officer was videotaped pushing a protester to the ground with his baton and telling her, "Back up, b----."

The district attorney declined to prosecute the officer, saying the woman had disobeyed warnings to back away and had grabbed the officer's baton.

Wow, police in America sure are strange. Totally different approach over here. A few days back an officer turned up at a friend's party, stripped and then asked us to grab his baton.

I honestly thought this would be alot worse than just a t-shirt. Oh and for all you Libertarians out there. I'm full on authoritarian wouldn't mind a polite discussion about government policy with any of you.

Wow, police in America sure are strange. Totally different approach over here. A few days back an officer turned up at a friend's party, stripped and then asked us to grab his baton.

I'm totally moving to Absurdia.

I love police brutality.

Question.

Does this mean we get to parade in front of police officers with "kill the pigs" (with one in uniform) T-shirts or something like that? If it does, it's fine. If it doesn't, well, then they don't get to wear their rags either, now do they?

Question.

Does this mean we get to parade in front of police officers with "kill the pigs" (with one in uniform) T-shirts or something like that? If it does, it's fine. If it doesn't, well, then they don't get to wear their rags either, now do they?

While I am sickened by police brutality, I wish to point out that killing is a rung or two above beating.

So you are implying that a person that is bound to protect and defend the Constitution, which includes the part about free speech is somehow not allowed to have the same right?

It would be one thing if the shirts were made by the PD, which they were not. They were made by the officer's union, which is a separate entity and not a part of the PD nor the city. Therefore, they also have the same right to free speech

Right, and they use it to make a snide remark about preventing others, through intimidation and abuse of authority, from using their first amendment right of peaceable assembly and the right to petition government for redress of grievances.

Or are you ignorant of all the other things the first amendment is supposed to protect?

I'm totally moving to Absurdia.

Depends if you can pass the citizenship test. The only persons admitted are those who can beat Alan the Nazi rapist karate centaur, using as weapons only a glitter pen, a cheese sandwich, and a single AA battery.

Right, and they use it to make a snide remark about preventing others, through intimidation and abuse of authority, from using their first amendment right of peaceable assembly and the right to petition government for redress of grievances.

Or are you unaware of all the things the first amendment is supposed to protect?



Who is this directed at Kat?

Depends if you can pass the citizenship test. The only persons admitted are those who can beat Alan the Nazi rapist karate centaur, using as weapons only a glitter pen, a cheese sandwich, and a single AA battery.

The way to a centaurs heart is always through his stomach... first. After feeding him the cheese sammich, I'll have his trust and.... well, the rest is self explanatory

The fastest way to a centaur's heart is a scalpel, of course. It also works with humans, according to trustworthy reports.

The way to a centaurs heart is always through his stomach... first. After feeding him the cheese sammich, I'll have his trust and.... well, the rest is self explanatory

Right, you're in, but with a minor fault for not mentioning disposal of the AA battery. Centaurs will strike out angrily at anyone with an AA battery on their person, as it reminds them of the disastorous battery shortage of 2005 when no batteries of any other size but AA were available for several months due to a trade dispute. Without AAA batteries, the Centaurs' TV remote controls failed, leading to the collapse of the Centaur government and a surge of random angry violence across the land. Tragically of course, this disaster went relatively unreported in the media as most of the digital cameras in the region ironically required AAA batteries.

Yep, that's the woman I meant. I don't think anyone else was caught on tape striking anyone, but I could be wrong about that.
Ok, I was thrown by the "struck" line. I think she was pushed down and unwelcome grabbing of the officer's weapon can be considered an attack.

Wow, police in America sure are strange. Totally different approach over here. A few days back an officer turned up at a friend's party, stripped and then asked us to grab his baton.
the difference is that your officer asked to have his baton grabbed. :p

Who is this directed at Kat?
just a guess, but I would assume the person Kat quoted...

Right, you're in, but with a minor fault for not mentioning disposal of the AA battery. Centaurs will strike out angrily at anyone with an AA battery on their person, as it reminds them of the disastorous battery shortage of 2005 when no batteries of any other size but AA were available for several months due to a trade dispute. Without AAA batteries, the Centaurs' TV remote controls failed, leading to the collapse of the Centaur government and a surge of random angry violence across the land. Tragically of course, this disaster went relatively unreported in the media as most of the digital cameras in the region ironically required AAA batteries.

My mistake. I'll give myself 69 lashings with your tongue

Ok, I was thrown by the "struck" line. I think she was pushed down and unwelcome grabbing of the officer's weapon can be considered an attack.


the difference is that your officer asked to have his baton grabbed. :p


just a guess, but I would assume the person Kat quoted...

the way I read it was she fell after being hit with the baton.

Also, Kat didn't originally quote the person she was responding to.

the way I read it was she fell after being hit with the baton.

Also, Kat didn't originally quote the person she was responding to.
ah, well, some accounts say pushed, but either way, I think we can agree it was after she grabbed his baton.

by the way, thanks to DI... I got a Bowchiccabowwow running though my head everytime I type the phrase "Grabbed his baton"

My mistake. I'll give myself 69 lashings with your tongue
and... er... who is this directed at?

I for one wouldn't want to give you your lashings when it's supposed to be someone else... :p

ah, well, some accounts say pushed, but either way, I think we can agree it was after she grabbed his baton.

by the way, thanks to DI... I got a Bowchiccabowwow running though my head everytime I type the phrase "Grabbed his baton"


and... er... who is this directed at?

I for one wouldn't want to give you your lashings when it's supposed to be someone else... :p

Yeah, I never actually saw the video and you are right, there are different accounts as to how it went down.


I added the quote I was responding to.

It isn't that funny. That's the real problem. If you're gonna be crude and tasteless, you have to be funny! You have to make people laugh and then feel kind of bad they laughed. That shirt sucks.

I added the quote I was responding to.oh... damn! :(

Police brutality is always funny when it happens to other people. Hence, "Don't taze me bro," the heartwarming family comedy Freedomland, and other such shenanigans.

My mistake. I'll give myself 69 lashings with your tongue

:eek2: Brave. And unwise. Surely you know the official record for such lashings without dying is 54?

Police brutality is always funny when it happens to other people. Hence, "Don't taze me bro," the heartwarming family comedy Freedomland, and other such shenanigans.

Sadly, this is true. I find police brutality of others hilarious.

Its reasonably funny, so I'll let them get away with the bad taste. But when I opened the thread I expected so much more (i.e. a video of savage beatings with the Benny Hill yakety sax over the top)
yakety sax makes everything funny.
for eg:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMlF2PNgN70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Sui7st2q0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De1wNLEGQ30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-jcDRFId68

yakety sax makes everything funny.
for eg:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMlF2PNgN70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Sui7st2q0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De1wNLEGQ30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-jcDRFId68

Ah...that first one. Hadn't seen that in ages. Probably my favourite thing on youtube.

While I am sickened by police brutality, I wish to point out that killing is a rung or two above beating.

Ok, then how about a "Beat the Pigs" T-shirt with a pig shaped pinata in a police uniform?

Edit: Maybe even have the pinata breaking open and the bill of rights falling out of it.

I hadn't seen this posted yet.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/17563487/detail.html#

So is anyone here amused by this? I'm rather surprised that they have the balls to print up something like this. of course, the honesty might be a little refreshing if it wasn't so disturbing. I think some people definitely need to be fired over this, but I won't be holding my breath.
...the fuck? This is disgusting! What the hell is wrong with these cops?

that's hilarious I want to buy some now. Ps those protesters deserved what they got. something about overturned cars and broke store fronts.

Hey, fuckwad? Police have sweeping powers to use force, but that force still has to be reasonable, and proportionate. The police do NOT have the power to 'give protesters what they deserve'. If the protesters are breaking the law, then they can be charged, and have their day in court, like anyone else. No way do I want to live in a society that sanctions police brutality. One way I'm going to ensure I don't? I'm going to go after cops who step over that line, every opportunity I'm given, and I'm going to haul their asses into court.

It isn't that funny. That's the real problem. If you're gonna be crude and tasteless, you have to be funny! You have to make people laugh and then feel kind of bad they laughed. That shirt sucks.

This.
The "L.A.P.D.: We Treat You Like A King" shirt was way funnier. (Of course, the LAPD didn't think so at all, which just added to the joke.)

A group that wants to recreate the 1968 Democratic Convention farce that resulted in Tricky Dick being elected is calling the shirt "tasteless"? Pot, Kettle, Yo.

You know what happens when you walk up to someone and kick them in the nuts?

Well other than that person falling down in agony, you generally get charged with assault.

Unless you're a cop, and that person is a protestor.

Wrong, wrong wrong.

This.
The "L.A.P.D.: We Treat You Like A King" shirt was way funnier. (Of course, the LAPD didn't think so at all, which just added to the joke.)

That is hilarious! I never saw that shirt, living in my little backwater, and being a little too young to appreciate the whole situation.

You know what happens when you walk up to someone and kick them in the nuts?

Well other than that person falling down in agony, you generally get charged with assault.

Unless you're a cop, and that person is a protestor.

Wrong, wrong wrong.

Yeah, because all police do that...

:rolleyes:

Yeah, because all police do that...

:rolleyes:

Did I say that? The answer to that is no.

How successful are assault charges against cops?

Not very.

How successful are assault charges against cops?

Not very.

What does how successful the charges are have to do with what you said?

Well other than that person falling down in agony, you generally get charged with assault.

Unless you're a cop, and that person is a protestor.



Now as to my response, no, you didn't come out and say it, but the implication was there that you consider it to be normal behaviour of police officers to assault protesters.

What does how successful the charges are have to do with what you said?
Because it relates directly to what I said. That's what it has to do with what I said. See what I did there? I said something, and then another thing that was DIRECTLY related to the previous statement.

I understand how that can be confusing, and I'm glad I got the opportunity to clarify the situation for you.



Now as to my response, no, you didn't come out and say it, but the implication was there that you consider it to be normal behaviour of police officers to assault protesters.
Yes.

Did I say it?

No.

If you had just come out and asked, 'are you implying such and such', I'd have agreed that yes, this is what I'm implying.

Do all cops assault protesters? Clearly not. Do some protesters nearly always get assaulted by some cops? I believe this to be the case.

God, clarification is nearly as awesome as rubbing bacon all over your chest.

It's an incredibly repulsive T-shirt. I certainly would not trust a Denver police officer with anything.
Further, it is all the more reason that police officers should be elected the same way sheriffs are.

So is anyone here amused by this? I'm rather surprised that they have the balls to print up something like this. of course, the honesty might be a little refreshing if it wasn't so disturbing. I think some people definitely need to be fired over this, but I won't be holding my breath.

I think it's funny. And last time I checked, unions were private organizations, so uh...no firing for you.

I might just sign up for the police force now.;)

I'm not a big fan of our boys in blue, but you know if goths and emo's can ware t-shirts saying 'Jesus is a ****!' and protesters can ware t-shirts saying 'Fuck the Police', then whats the big deal?

Have any of you known any police officers personally?
I have, and the stories I've heard led me to believe that police are just like everybody else; capable of petty, corrupted and morally questionable behavior.
And also of taking advantage of their special status and rights on a regular basis, such as using confiscated fireworks for their own enjoyment, drag racing on city streets after a curfew has cleared them...
So no, it doesn't surprise me that they would make fun of and seek to profit from beating protesters.

"The police department is like a crew, it does what ever it wants to do"

I'm not a big fan of our boys in blue, but you know if goths and emo's can ware t-shirts saying 'Jesus is a ****!' and protesters can ware t-shirts saying 'Fuck the Police', then whats the big deal?Goths, emos, and protestors aren't the agents of a body that claims a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence.

I like that shirt, yes it's funny.

It's kinda funny. I guess.

Yeah I find it pretty damn funny, in an ironic way.

Right, and they use it to make a snide remark about preventing others, through intimidation and abuse of authority, from using their first amendment right of peaceable assembly and the right to petition government for redress of grievances.

Or are you ignorant of all the other things the first amendment is supposed to protect?

Not at all Kat. I have spend more than my share of years defending peoples rights. I even had to defend the rights of the KKK to march in the city I worked as a cop, because it was my sworn duty to enforce and protect their first ammendment rights to free speech, and to assemble. And yes, I had to stand my ground between them and a very hostile crowd, because I was sworn to protect the constitution.

So no, I am not ignorant at all about what the constitution is. I have had my ass kicked for defending it for those that could not.

Again, what is it about a shirt that is not made by the PD, but by a private organization that they have to fired? Or do constitutional rights only apply to those you deem deserving, instead of all persons?

Goths, emos, and protestors aren't the agents of a body that claims a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence.

Well I don't know about this monoply. The armed forces, the cheifs of such, a man defending his home, boxers, well you see what I mean.

Well I don't know about this monoply. The armed forces, the cheifs of such, a man defending his home, boxers, well you see what I mean.In the latter two cases the violence is merely subcontracted out. The armed forces are also representatives of the state.

Yeah I find it pretty damn funny, in an ironic way.

As far as I know, officers of the law aren't too fond of irony. That's one of the reasons why they're armed, apparently.

As far as I know, officers of the law aren't too fond of irony. That's one of the reasons why they're armed, apparently.

And just what are their 'arms' made of huh huh!!?

Quick random unscientific poll of the six people within arms reach of me finds that five of the six people find the t-shirt pretty funny while the sixth finds it "fuckin' horrible."
Take that how you will.

I think some people definitely need to be fired over this, but I won't be holding my breath.

Isn't the whole point of having unions so that people don't get fired for having political opinions?

Or do constitutional rights only apply to those you deem deserving, instead of all persons?

You have just hit upon the feelings of far too many of the regulars here...

Heh, that's a pretty funny shirt, last time I checked cops are still allowed to have fun now and then. I do so hope to wear the badge someday.

You have just hit upon the feelings of far too many of the regulars here...

Source, bitch.

Heh, that's a pretty funny shirt, last time I checked cops are still allowed to have fun now and then. I do so hope to wear the badge someday.

If you find jokes about police brutality FROM police to be funny I hope you never do.

I know first hand how corrupt police are. They do have issues like anyone else. Their job requires dealing with public AND violence every day....more issues which I tend to believe may effect what they do. Police are people like us from having a high domestic violence rate, relationship problems, to even death penalty warranted crimes such as child molesting. Face it. If your wife left you for another guy. Got the house and the kids and most of YOUR money, and your a cop dealing with a crowd who is defiant of you no matter what. I'm sure more people would than not get their anger out using their badge as their protector.

Heh, that's a pretty funny shirt, last time I checked cops are still allowed to have fun now and then. I do so hope to wear the badge someday.

See, this is why I don't trust the police, even though I really, really want to.