NationStates Jolt Archive


Let, it snow, let it snow, let it snow.... ON MARS!

Daistallia 2104
01-10-2008, 05:29
This is wicky-cool!

In an unprecedented discovery, NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander has found snow falling from clouds on Mars, scientists said Tuesday.

A laser instrument collecting data on how the atmosphere and surface interact on Mars detected snow from clouds about four kilometers (2.5 miles) above the spacecraft's landing site. The date found the snow vaporized before reaching the ground.

"Nothing like this view has ever been seen on Mars," said Jim Whiteway, of York University, Toronto, lead scientist for the Canadian-supplied Meteorological Station on Phoenix. "We'll be looking for signs that the snow may even reach the ground."

Spacecraft soil experiments also have provided dramatic evidence of past interaction between minerals and liquid water, processes that occur on Earth. Phoenix touched down in the Martian arctic on May 25.

Phoenix data also suggested the presence of calcium carbonate, the main composition of chalk, and particles that could be clay. Most carbonates and clays on Earth form only with water on hand.

"We have found carbonate," said William Boynton of the University of Arizona, lead scientist for the Thermal and Evolved Gas Analyzer (TEGA). "This points toward episodes of interaction with water in the past."

"We are still collecting data and have lots of analysis ahead, but we are making good progress on the big questions we set out for ourselves," said Phoenix Principal Investigator Peter Smith of the University of Arizona, Tucson.

The Phoenix lander started digging trenches into Martian soil after touching down near the planet's north pole on May 25, revealing a white substance that scientists said was ice in June.

Now scientists want to examine whether that ice ever thaws to assess whether the environment has been favorable for life, a key aim of the mission.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080930172328.49u1qw9x&show_article=1

Anybody for a Martian snowman?
Christmahanikwanzikah
01-10-2008, 05:42
Hmm... well, it vaporized before it even reached the surface, so... no. :P Has JPL released any info about the perchlorate they found in the soil? Do you know?
Lacadaemon
01-10-2008, 05:51
In before global warming.
Daistallia 2104
01-10-2008, 05:53
Hmm... well, it vaporized before it even reached the surface, so... no. :P

There's hope. :D

Has JPL released any info about the perchlorate they found in the soil? Do you know?

No idea.
Callisdrun
01-10-2008, 05:58
Pretty awesome.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
01-10-2008, 06:01
Hmm... well, it vaporized before it even reached the surface, so... no.
The snowman can be built in the air, using the power of magic! I mean, science!
Christmahanikwanzikah
01-10-2008, 06:04
The snowman can be built in the air, using the power of magic! I mean, science!

Cloud seeding FTW?
Aperture Science
01-10-2008, 06:22
Where's the 'suffocate and simultaneously freezing to death and dying of radiation poisoning while my eyes bug out like in Total Recall' option?
Christmahanikwanzikah
01-10-2008, 06:24
Where's the 'suffocate and simultaneously freezing to death and dying of radiation poisoning while my eyes bug out like in Total Recall' option?

It's over there in Reality.

Excuse me while I fly off in my unicorn made of dark chocolate. :D
Daistallia 2104
01-10-2008, 07:04
Where's the 'suffocate and simultaneously freezing to death and dying of radiation poisoning while my eyes bug out like in Total Recall' option?

Ummm... There isn't one, as the Phoenix lander is highly unlikely to do any of those.

But, knowing what we do of NASA (Mars Climate Orbiter, anyone), it's not impossible...
Wilgrove
01-10-2008, 17:09
Let it snow -- on Mars: NASA

In an unprecedented discovery, NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander has found snow falling from clouds on Mars, scientists said Tuesday.

A laser instrument collecting data on how the atmosphere and surface interact on Mars detected snow from clouds about four kilometers (2.5 miles) above the spacecraft's landing site. The date found the snow vaporized before reaching the ground.

"Nothing like this view has ever been seen on Mars," said Jim Whiteway, of York University, Toronto, lead scientist for the Canadian-supplied Meteorological Station on Phoenix. "We'll be looking for signs that the snow may even reach the ground."

Spacecraft soil experiments also have provided dramatic evidence of past interaction between minerals and liquid water, processes that occur on Earth. Phoenix touched down in the Martian arctic on May 25.

Phoenix data also suggested the presence of calcium carbonate, the main composition of chalk, and particles that could be clay. Most carbonates and clays on Earth form only with water on hand.

"We have found carbonate," said William Boynton of the University of Arizona, lead scientist for the Thermal and Evolved Gas Analyzer (TEGA). "This points toward episodes of interaction with water in the past."

"We are still collecting data and have lots of analysis ahead, but we are making good progress on the big questions we set out for ourselves," said Phoenix Principal Investigator Peter Smith of the University of Arizona, Tucson.

The Phoenix lander started digging trenches into Martian soil after touching down near the planet's north pole on May 25, revealing a white substance that scientists said was ice in June.

Now scientists want to examine whether that ice ever thaws to assess whether the environment has been favorable for life, a key aim of the mission.


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Link (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080930172328.49u1qw9x&show_article=1)

So, does this mean that the NASA will send up rovers with scoops so that they can build snow man and have snowball fights?
Pirated Corsairs
01-10-2008, 17:30
Already posted (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=567668)

EDIT:
That being said, snowball fights in low gravity would be awesome.
Ifreann
01-10-2008, 17:31
Martian snow angels!
Adunabar
01-10-2008, 17:33
Interesting.
Daistallia 2104
01-10-2008, 17:34
Already posted (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=567668)

Indded - with a better title and poll as well.
Daistallia 2104
01-10-2008, 17:34
Flattery et al... http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14058683
Adunabar
01-10-2008, 17:48
Silly Willy.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
01-10-2008, 19:37
Love the poll.
Berry Juice
01-10-2008, 20:03
Brilliant.
Lord Tothe
01-10-2008, 20:27
Excellent poll. Somehow I am imagining a Transformers-style "Stop lubricating on that!" type situation so I chose option 3.
Dumb Ideologies
01-10-2008, 20:31
Thank industrial capitalism. If it wasn't for global warming the Martian snowmen would be invading Earth and the anuses of innocent civilians. Them icy bitches will rape you and give you frostbite simultaneously, then charge you for the "service".
Ifreann
01-10-2008, 20:47
Thank industrial capitalism. If it wasn't for global warming the Martian snowmen would be invading Earth and the anuses of innocent civilians. Them icy bitches will rape you and give you frostbite simultaneously, then charge you for the "service".

This, boys and girls, is how you win. [/thread]