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So how many of us have back up plans in case we couldn't do our primary careers anymore? Up till recently, I thought I didn't need one. However, the career I've choosen is very physical, and well let's face it, my body isn't exactly the strongest out there. I already have back problems, and very little muscle mass on the lower part of my legs. So I started to think about what I would do if I couldn't be an OT anymore. My thoughts pretty much turned to Web Design. I'm already considering investing in the following programs.

Dreamweaver CS4
Photoshop CS3 (This way I can create graphics)
and I plan to learn how to use Microsoft Movie Maker (or whatever it's called).

I may also learn the various message board programs out there so that I can create message boards when the occassion calls for it.

The only problem I see with this plan is 1. I think the market is already oversaturated with Free lance Web Designers 2. I suck at getting my name out there.

So do ya'll have back up plans in case the primary career for whatever reason doesn't work out?

My back up plan in case my primary career fails, is to mercilessly leech from the commie socialist pinko interfering top-heavy bureaucratic interfering nanny welfare state I live in.

Woohoo!

*queues at post office

Amm... I was thinking of doing like, a physics course? Maybe get a job at NASA? It's a government job so, like, guaranteed pay.

Sweet!

My back up plan is already in action. I was going to work in computers, but jobs are scarce here these days. So now I work for a major british corporation. Tesco. :(

My back up plan in case my primary career fails, is to mercilessly leech from the commie socialist pinko interfering top-heavy bureaucratic interfering nanny welfare state I live in.

Woohoo!

*queues at post office

Hallelujah!!!:hail:

I don't have a back up career. Got to attack what you want to do with confidence imo.

I don't have a back up plan. I just do jobs I don't like enough to make money and then I pay to do things I do like.

I have found recently that I loathe grown ups though so like 7 of my jobs deal with them exclusively, so I have to figure out how to make more money at my 8th job so I can quit the other 7.

I'm focusing on that now.

My back-up plan is to become a drifter, walking from town to town, leaving a trail of broken promises and shattered tea sets in my wake.

I'm going into porn if my other ventures don't work out.

So do ya'll have back up plans in case the primary career for whatever reason doesn't work out?

not really. I just keep my options open. I'm willing to flip burgers, push a broom or whatever it takes.

My back up plan is music and music production, that's also my ultimate goal, to get enough money working in the city, probably in banking, to have enough money to set up a proper studio.

My back-up plan is to become a drifter, walking from town to town, leaving a trail of broken promises and shattered tea sets in my wake.

Yeah, truth be told, that was roughly my plan as well, there was no way I was going to pass that physics course, I was lying to myself really.

Yeah, truth be told, that was roughly my plan as well, there was no way I was going to pass that physics course, I was lying to myself really.
But breaking tea sets is going to be my thing. You'll have to think of something else to destroy, like thermoses or Lazy Susans.

Booze and cigarettes as trade goods.

Booze and cigarettes as trade goods.

Hell, you could be rich! :D

I thought about trading myself, but I'd probably just loose all of my money. :(

But breaking tea sets is going to be my thing. You'll have to think of something else to destroy, like thermoses or Lazy Susans.

I did say roughly, I hadn't thought teapot destruction, nice touch though.

I'm going into porn if my other ventures don't work out.

I'd buy that for a dollar!

Back-up plan is to marry rich and become a stay-at-home wife.

It's looking better and better all the time.

I have a million back up plans. Barring debilitating physical or mental illness, I'll always be fine. I can sling beer with the best of them, I can do manual labour, I can go back to teaching...hell I can open up a dungeon and Domme hapless idiots out of their money (no one pays for subs)...doesn't really matter. I don't have a lot of material needs, so it's not like I give a shit if I make a tonne (metric) of money.

Back-up plan is to marry rich and become a stay-at-home wife.

It's looking better and better all the time.

that requires a whole different kind of skillset, lest you be traded in for the newer model.

I'd buy that for a dollar!

That's about 1/5 of the cost to download the.... oh you almost tricked me into revealing that I am already running my backup plan. Nice try, but it wont work.

hell I can open up a dungeon and Domme hapless idiots out of their money (no one pays for subs)

not entirely true as I have heard such things exist, but I think the reason we don't see it too often is a safety issue. Sure you can take money to tie a guy up and beat him, but would you feel comfortable getting tied up and beaten by a guy who likes to pay strangers to let him tie them up and beat them?

not entirely true as I have heard such things exist, but I think the reason we don't see it too often is a safety issue. Sure you can take money to tie a guy up and beat him, but would you feel comfortable getting tied up and beaten by a guy who likes to pay strangers to let him tie them up and beat them?

Yeah, no bloody way.

*puts on leather* :D

yeah there is a dungeon n Hollywood where my friend worked as a sub and made good cash.

Also my friend would get requests from her subs to have another sub join them and would pay handsomely for it.

hell I can open up a dungeon and Domme hapless idiots out of their money (no one pays for subs)...doesn't really matter.
If you do this, can I take photographs and then blackmail the poor bastards? That sounds like it could be even more fun than destroying cups and saucers.

I could probably get myself committed and get free meals and a warm bed in exchange for tackling people a bit more randomly than I already do. :)

yeah there is a dungeon n Hollywood where my friend worked as a sub and made good cash.

Also my friend would get requests from her subs to have another sub join them and would pay handsomely for it.

I must admit, this is hot. I´ve always wanted to go to one of those dungeons and be abused as a sub and made moist in all my special places.

I must admit, this is hot. I´ve always wanted to go to one of those dungeons and be abused as a sub and made moist in all my special places.

why pay, I'm quite sure there are many who would happily do it for free :p

If you do this, can I take photographs and then blackmail the poor bastards? That sounds like it could be even more fun than destroying cups and saucers.

Sweet jesus fuck, what kind of morally bankrupt kunt do you take me for? No way.

why pay, I'm quite sure there are many who would happily do it for free :p

Wanna help me realize my dirty dream, then?:tongue:

Wanna help me realize my dirty dream, then?:tongue:

hah, I dunno. Ignoring the literal ocean between us, you might be a little too....tame, for my usual play :p

Sweet jesus fuck, what kind of morally bankrupt kunt do you take me for? No way.
I thought you were the cool sort, but it seems I was wrong.

I must admit, this is hot. I´ve always wanted to go to one of those dungeons and be abused as a sub and made moist in all my special places.

if you become friends with a professional you could make some money while you are at it

but I've seen the business ruin the experience for some who got tired of it beign a job that sucked all of the fun out of it

I thought you were the cool sort, but it seems I was wrong.

Don't make me put a bit in your mouth and ride your ass into the sunset.

Well, my likely career path when I finish my utterly pointless university degree is to claim off the welfare state and begin a slow slide into drug and alcohol fuelled madness, leading eventually to being sectioned under the mental health act and being given free padded accommodation.

As for back-up plans, well, I guess if I fail at failing at life as expected then I guess I'd end up with a secure job and meet a nice guy who finds ugly, mentally unstable people a turn-on.

hah, I dunno. Ignoring the literal ocean between us, you might be a little too....tame, for my usual play :p

Tame? TAME! How dare you?! I´m not tame! Not one bit, sir.:mad:

Don't make me put a bit in your mouth and ride your ass into the sunset.

Hi ho Silver, Away!

Tame? TAME! How dare you?! I´m not tame! Not one bit, sir.:mad:

They all say that. Most of 'em don't even last the first ten minutes

They all say that. Most of 'em don't even last the first ten minutes

I´m a guaranteed export, sir.;)

I´m a guaranteed export, sir.;)

well considering you're in spain, you'd have to be an export for that to work.

I assume you meant expert, heh

But at least your attitude is right :p

Well, if my missionary career fails, then I will become a revolutionary and try to overthrow some government. If and when that fails, I will go into the wilderness and live off the land, preferably in the mountains somewhere. And if that fails, I might just kill someone and go to jail. At least I'll be promised a place to sleep and food to eat.

well considering you're in spain, you'd have to be an export for that to work.

I assume you meant expert, heh

But at least your attitude is right :p

I´ll let you be the judge of my expertise. But I did mean export.:tongue:

I´ll let you be the judge of my expertise.

Hah, don't tempt me...

But I did mean export.:tongue:

How so?

So do ya'll have back up plans in case the primary career for whatever reason doesn't work out?

Well, I'm in my second career and I don't think my first alternate will work out anymore. No pro hockey team wants a 50+ year old wing.

On the other hand, I've just about got enough saved up to start my third career... I think I'll buy a hardware store for a retirement project.

Hah, don't tempt me...

To?



How so?

Well, considering I´m in Spain, I would a sex-product exported into your country for enjoyment. :p

To?

Find a way to judge :p

Well, considering I´m in Spain, I would a sex-product exported into your country for enjoyment. :p

I don't think they give visas for that. but it'd be hilarious if someone put it on an application.

Don't make me put a bit in your mouth and ride your ass into the sunset.
I am going to smash your saucers into so many pieces now; you'll be picking bits of china out of the carpet for years.

Find a way to judge :p

:D

I don't think they give visas for that. but it'd be hilarious if someone put it on an application.

Don´t give me ideas. I can get into trouble for trying. :p

:D



Don´t give me ideas. I can get into trouble for trying. :p

I should totally stop this, not only are we massively derailing the thread, but I'm quite rapidly destroying what vestiges of a good reputation I had around here.

I want it noted, she started it.

I am going to smash your saucers into so many pieces now; you'll be picking bits of china out of the carpet for years.

Maybe, but only one of us is going to be bleeding out the arse...

So I think I win.:D

I should totally stop this, not only are we massively derailing the thread, but I'm quite rapidly destroying what vestiges of a good reputation I had around here.

I want it noted, she started it.

...

Oh come ON now.

currently university student.

graduation is soon at hand.
career options ahead of me.
1. Foreign service officer.
2. Law school/ history master's program.
3. Teach English in Korea.

that failing the situation must really catastrophic. I will go to uncles farm and farm to eat.

I should totally stop this, not only are we massively derailing the thread, but I'm quite rapidly destroying what vestiges of a good reputation I had around here.

I want it noted, she started it.

But we ARE, indeed, talking about back up plans.:D

Maybe, but only one of us is going to be bleeding out the arse...

So I think I win.:D
You assume I would view rectal bleeding as a negative.

Business systems--anyone with a background in analysis can do it. It's not the most exciting thing, and sometimes it can be exceptionally stressful, as is indicated by dear ol' dad's ulcer, but that's how the dice get rolled some time, no?

Only a thread about career back up plans can turn into a thread about BDSM/Bondage....

Not that I'm complaining, mind you.

*goes back into shadow with cigarette lit*

that failing the situation must really catastrophic. I will go to uncles farm and farm to eat.

Quite like my backup plan. My parents and uncles have small farms, the type that would easily not get noticed, because they are hobby farmers (they have professional careers, but find farming amusing, or something).

And, honestly, it wouldn't be all that bad. Working outdoors, eating your own food, Being with family. If the world really got that bad, that would be the way to go.

Are you paying too much for your car insurance?

Quite like my backup plan. My parents and uncles have small farms, the type that would easily not get noticed, because they are hobby farmers (they have professional careers, but find farming amusing, or something).

And, honestly, it wouldn't be all that bad. Working outdoors, eating your own food, Being with family. If the world really got that bad, that would be the way to go.

I've almost considered it seriously, even if the world stays in a fairly decent way. Living such a simple life would be fantastic.

Up till recently, I thought I didn't need one.
I might get posters mixed up again, but wasn't OT your secondary "career" already after you had to give up teaching?

However, the career I've chosen is very physical, and well let's face it, my body isn't exactly the strongest out there.

May I inquire why you do not appear to have thought about this beforehand?

So do ya'll have back up plans in case the primary career for whatever reason doesn't work out?

I'll repeat what Sin said: If push comes to shove, I can and will do anything. I'm intelligent, learn easily, am able to work hard, and don't shy away from neither brain nor brawn work.

But still, there are some preferred second careers: Taking my teaching abroad, maybe even getting side-tracked with more developmental work or social work style things, writing professionally, or re-train to work with animals rather than kids (plants are also a nice option).

My back up plan should everything fail is to live on the streets. Develop substance abuse problems so bad everyday is simply a haze til one day I just pass out in an ally and die. Seriously.

I've almost considered it seriously, even if the world stays in a fairly decent way. Living such a simple life would be fantastic.

Eh not me, I'm used to my comfortable life with Central Air and Heat, and computers.

If I get tired of my current job, or am unable to do it for some reason, I would probably become a machinist or an electrician. If I didn't have the money for the training, I'd probably run a demolition company. If society collapses, I'm living with Sinuhue in the woods.

Eh not me, I'm used to my comfortable life with Central Air and Heat, and computers.

Who says you can't have some of those things and live a simple life. I am talking about having minimal dependency on other people. Sure, I might have to get electricity or running water from cities or something, but I would grow my own food, make my own clothing, for heat I could burn logs, and for AC, I could have AC :p

That's about 1/5 of the cost to download the.... oh you almost tricked me into revealing that I am already running my backup plan. Nice try, but it wont work.

Pfft! Now you're just making stuff up.




We all know that porn was your primary, secondary and tertiary plan. :wink:

Pfft! Now you're just making stuff up.




We all know that porn was your primary, secondary and tertiary plan. :wink:

Shut your pie hole. The thing is, you see, that I am following several different career paths at once and just happen to be really good at the porn path. Okay, you can open your pie hole back up.

I have achieved my career goal - I've retired. I worked 23 years at a job I loathed. Now I just have to figure out what to do with my time - so many options ... *wanders off*

So do ya'll have back up plans in case the primary career for whatever reason doesn't work out?
You refer to the recession?
Well, I think I've got pretty much a cradle-to-grave deal... My primary career is as a naval architect in military shipbuilding, and the last-ditch backup is the Navy itself (went through NROTC). That one should probably work even if the whole civilization comes down - humans can tighten up on money, food, housing, just whatever, the only thing they'll never stop doing is killing each other.

Though I figure out I'd find out something intermediate if the industry falls, but it's not yet as bad as to get locked in a rolling metal box. Probably the first line of retreat will be other less well-paid engineering jobs, the second computer industry. And if all that fails, i.e. the urban economy really goes down, I keep in touch with not-too-close relatives way in the country, among which there are owners of a family-run farm. At least I can drive trucks and know how to fix machinery.

Shut your pie hole. The thing is, you see, that I am following several different career paths at once and just happen to be really good at the porn path. Okay, you can open your pie hole back up.

Mmmm... Pie :fluffle:

Pie good.

I've almost considered it seriously, even if the world stays in a fairly decent way. Living such a simple life would be fantastic.
Of course, what could be better than a life of subsistence farming?

My original plan was to be a writer, but since I knew I wanted to eat regularly, I got a job in publishing, hoping to network. When that didn't work, I was an office temp. Then I parleyed that into desktop publisher. When that went south seven years later, I used that BA in English to become a teacher, and got a Masters in Secondary Education: English.

If I ever needed or wanted to leave, I could probably do public relations.

Honestly, who needs a backup plan if one has half a brain? I mean if you can think, there will always be a way for you to make money.

not really. I just keep my options open. I'm willing to flip burgers, push a broom or whatever it takes.
just don't get the two round the wrong way. Not much call for pushing burgers and flipping brooms.

My backup plans if I fail medicine: become a receptionist, a medical transcriptionist, a masseur, or a butcher.

I've almost considered it seriously, even if the world stays in a fairly decent way. Living such a simple life would be fantastic.

I dunno, I grew up on a small farm but something about the 18-20 hour days just to survive (which are extra fun when you're 8 years old) lost it's appeal after a while.

My primary plan when I'm done at university (only 2 semesters of undergrad left, probably 2 years of grad school) is to teach English in Europe. My backup plan is to teach French in the United States. Failing either of those I can go back to whoring myself out to Uncle Sam and his Army and he'll take me back for quite some time. If society were to collapse I suppose somebody would need the services of someone who is handy with an assault rifle.

My backup plans if I fail medicine: become a receptionist, a medical transcriptionist, a masseur, or a butcher.
Again, two occupations that it's a good idea not to get them confused with each other.

Plan? What's a plan?

Mmmm... Pie :fluffle:I'm not quite sure that that's the reason he told you to do that...

So how many of us have back up plans in case we couldn't do our primary careers anymore? Up till recently, I thought I didn't need one. However, the career I've choosen is very physical, and well let's face it, my body isn't exactly the strongest out there. I already have back problems, and very little muscle mass on the lower part of my legs. So I started to think about what I would do if I couldn't be an OT anymore. My thoughts pretty much turned to Web Design. I'm already considering investing in the following programs.

Dreamweaver CS4
Photoshop CS3 (This way I can create graphics)
and I plan to learn how to use Microsoft Movie Maker (or whatever it's called).

I may also learn the various message board programs out there so that I can create message boards when the occassion calls for it.

The only problem I see with this plan is 1. I think the market is already oversaturated with Free lance Web Designers 2. I suck at getting my name out there.

So do ya'll have back up plans in case the primary career for whatever reason doesn't work out?

Nope, but then I have changed career many times, so I guess if I need to do so again then that is what I shall do.

Well, I suppose if the whole librarian thing doesn't work out it is back to the lion taming. Though it not a very exciting prospect.

Again, two occupations that it's a good idea not to get them confused with each other.

Shit don't be a butcher, I mean it, much hard work for little money.

So how many of us have back up plans in case we couldn't do our primary careers anymore? Up till recently, I thought I didn't need one. However, the career I've choosen is very physical, and well let's face it, my body isn't exactly the strongest out there. I already have back problems, and very little muscle mass on the lower part of my legs. So I started to think about what I would do if I couldn't be an OT anymore. My thoughts pretty much turned to Web Design. I'm already considering investing in the following programs.

Dreamweaver CS4
Photoshop CS3 (This way I can create graphics)
and I plan to learn how to use Microsoft Movie Maker (or whatever it's called).

I may also learn the various message board programs out there so that I can create message boards when the occassion calls for it.

The only problem I see with this plan is 1. I think the market is already oversaturated with Free lance Web Designers 2. I suck at getting my name out there.

So do ya'll have back up plans in case the primary career for whatever reason doesn't work out?

web design is over saturated, and prices have come down a lot in recent years. in order to make your work be worth anything, it'd probably be a good idea to learn php/mysql and get cozy with some cms software (i like joomla myself). dreamweaver and photoshop are good starts in designing sites, but making them live and breathe requires a whole different set of tools.


as for my backup plans... i have none. i do have a wide range of skills in technology, design and business (though i am a bit of a jack of all trades & master of none), so i could probably get a job somewhere like another design agency or printing house and earn better money than i do now... i'm not exactly on a career at the mo. i'd love to move into professional photography (as opposed to doing it as just part of my design agency job) and kit out a studio

if i were unable to use those skills (they don't exactly have any physical requirements apart from being able to see), i guess there's always the Big Issue

So how many of us have back up plans in case we couldn't do our primary careers anymore? Up till recently, I thought I didn't need one. However, the career I've choosen is very physical, and well let's face it, my body isn't exactly the strongest out there. I already have back problems, and very little muscle mass on the lower part of my legs. So I started to think about what I would do if I couldn't be an OT anymore. My thoughts pretty much turned to Web Design. I'm already considering investing in the following programs.

Dreamweaver CS4
Photoshop CS3 (This way I can create graphics)
and I plan to learn how to use Microsoft Movie Maker (or whatever it's called).

I may also learn the various message board programs out there so that I can create message boards when the occassion calls for it.

The only problem I see with this plan is 1. I think the market is already oversaturated with Free lance Web Designers 2. I suck at getting my name out there.

So do ya'll have back up plans in case the primary career for whatever reason doesn't work out?

Well, if I don't become a college professor after I get my Ph.D, then I have a B.A. in Secondary Education (though I doubt a high school will hire someone with a doctorate) or I can work in a history museum somewhere.

If all else fails, I could always move to Israel and work for my great uncle... His side of the family runs their own business in Ramat Gan (east of Tel Aviv).

I could always go back to trucking if Engineering fails.

I don't have a back up career. Got to attack what you want to do with confidence imo.
Yes, but choosing a course that gives you several options of what you can do with it afterwords is always smart.

Wanting to be a championship alpine skier while living in the Outback is not a particularly viable dream...

Well, if my missionary career fails....
You mean you'd give up your missionary position?

Could. Not. Resist!

Shit don't be a butcher, I mean it, much hard work for little money.
Yah, but you tend to eat well.

You mean you'd give up your missionary position?

Could. Not. Resist!

Bwahhahhha!

Yah, but you tend to eat well.

true if you have enough energy left to chew, let alone cook.

Well, if I don't become a college professor after I get my Ph.D, then I have a B.A. in Secondary Education (though I doubt a high school will hire someone with a doctorate) or I can work in a history museum somewhere.

If all else fails, I could always move to Israel and work for my great uncle... His side of the family runs their own business in Ramat Gan (east of Tel Aviv).
Um, that must be why there are at least three Docs in my school....

Yes, they will hire you. You'd probably be fast tracked toward a supervisory job in your field. Or you could always teach as an adjunct or get a tenured position at a uni, so long as you didn't mind writing books every so often.

Well, before our economy went to shit and garunteed getting a loan would be impossible, my back up plan WAS to open up a music store.

Again, two occupations that it's a good idea not to get them confused with each other.
Oh, don't worry, I'm a very confused person. :D

So how many of us have back up plans in case we couldn't do our primary careers anymore? Up till recently, I thought I didn't need one. However, the career I've choosen is very physical, and well let's face it, my body isn't exactly the strongest out there. I already have back problems, and very little muscle mass on the lower part of my legs. So I started to think about what I would do if I couldn't be an OT anymore. My thoughts pretty much turned to Web Design. I'm already considering investing in the following programs.

Dreamweaver CS4
Photoshop CS3 (This way I can create graphics)
and I plan to learn how to use Microsoft Movie Maker (or whatever it's called).

I may also learn the various message board programs out there so that I can create message boards when the occassion calls for it.

The only problem I see with this plan is 1. I think the market is already oversaturated with Free lance Web Designers 2. I suck at getting my name out there.

So do ya'll have back up plans in case the primary career for whatever reason doesn't work out?
My backup is simply diversity in IT ... I have a broad range of experience I could literally choose just about any specialty (except possibly high end SQL) and run with it without a problem

Honestly, who needs a backup plan if one has half a brain? I mean if you can think, there will always be a way for you to make money.

Yeah, but some of us prefer to make money in an enjoyable way, and thus like to think beforehand what they could and have to do in order to ensure that enjoyability in their options.

Yeah, but some of us prefer to make money in an enjoyable way, and thus like to think beforehand what they could and have to do in order to ensure that enjoyability in their options.

Heh and some of us take life as it comes, and try not to worry over much about things that may or may not happen in the future.

Yeah, but some of us prefer to make money in an enjoyable way, and thus like to think beforehand what they could and have to do in order to ensure that enjoyability in their options.

some of us have little or no choice to make money in an unenjoyable way...

*grump*

some of us have little or no choice to make money in an unenjoyable way...

*grump*

You always have a choice. Retrain, get a better job, go self employed.

You always have a choice. Retrain, get a better job, go self employed.

oh fuck no to that last one :eek:

my folks are self employed and run a business together... i work for them. it kinda sucks balls, and getting a job elsewhere is largely out of the question for the time being.

but my post there wasn't about me - it was about them. when you have a shitload of debts, you don't have that much choice where and how you work... changing what you do is risky, and losing your home again is not appealing. yes you have a choice, but its not a genuine one

oh fuck no to that last one :eek:

my folks are self employed and run a business together... i work for them. it kinda sucks balls, and getting a job elsewhere is largely out of the question for the time being.

but my post there wasn't about me - it was about them. when you have a shitload of debts, you don't have that much choice where and how you work... changing what you do is risky, and losing your home again is not appealing. yes you have a choice, but its not a genuine one


All true, although I did not say that such things where without risk, only that you always have a choice.

As I said earlyer, I have changed my career a good few times in my life, and each time I have had to start at the bottom and work my way up to a decent wage again.