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SAW Discussion

Wilgrove
26-09-2008, 11:24
*tape recorder begins playing*

Hello NSG, I want to play a game. In a month I will bring upon my vengeance from beyond the grave. As I have stated before, my work will be carried out after I am dead. My games, my tests of the survival instinct in 21th Century humans will go on. The only question is, do you have what it takes to survive my games? The rules are simple, On October 24th, You, Them, Everyone will see what my apprentice is capable of. You will be tested, your will is going to be tested, the media will show some of my deadliest games yet. The only question is, do you have the survival instinct? Live or die, make your choice.

*tape cuts off*

SAW V website (http://www.saw5.com/site/index.html)

Seriously though, is anyone else excited about SAW V coming out in a month? Or am I just sick and deprived?
Rambhutan
26-09-2008, 11:35
*puts on pedants hat*

Well if you wreck your vengeance as opposed to wreaking it why should we worry.
Wilgrove
26-09-2008, 11:38
*puts on pedants hat*

Well if you wreck your vengeance as opposed to wreaking it why should we worry.

Hey I ha....I mean Jigsaw has a speech impediment. *nod*
Backdrifts
26-09-2008, 11:38
*takes off pendants hat*
Kamsaki-Myu
26-09-2008, 11:42
*takes off pendants hat*
Just as well!

On topic, I don't like the premise behind Saw. It's just murder with a bit of self-righteous pontification. So I think I'll be missing the 5th one, thanks.
Rambhutan
26-09-2008, 11:44
*puts hat pendant round neck*
Wilgrove
26-09-2008, 11:45
Just as well!

On topic, I don't like the premise behind Saw. It's just murder with a bit of self-righteous pontification. So I think I'll be missing the 5th one, thanks.

At least it has an actual plot, instead of the usual slasher flick that passes as "horror/thriller" nowanddays. People are being killed with a purpose! :D
Antilon
26-09-2008, 11:46
When I first heard about Saw V I thought, " Oh great. Now they're just milking the franchise." But, the trailer looks cool (cool as in "Someone's going to die. Painfully"). I really like the contraptions and sick games ( XD ), more innovative than today's gore-fests and torture pron. Saw revolutionized the horror genre, I find it a pity that other movie directors haven't caught on.
Wilgrove
26-09-2008, 11:47
When I first heard about Saw V I thought, " Oh great. Now they're just milking the franchise." But, the trailer looks cool (cool as in "Someone's going to die. Painfully"). I really like the contraptions and sick games ( XD ), more innovative than today's gore-fests and torture pron. Saw revolutionized the horror genre, I find it a pity that other movie directors haven't caught on.

I know, I saw the preview with the pendulum trap, Oh, I almost had an orgasm.

Man, I really am a sick fuck aren't I?
Backdrifts
26-09-2008, 11:57
Whish is totally cool, the whole "sick fuck" part.
Delator
26-09-2008, 12:21
The first one was pretty good...original, well executed, good acting performances.

As with most franchises, it's gone steadily downhill from there.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
26-09-2008, 13:21
Just as well!

On topic, I don't like the premise behind Saw. It's just murder with a bit of self-righteous pontification. So I think I'll be missing the 5th one, thanks.
Same here. If I wanted masturbatory, pretentious self-righteousness, I'd watch a videotape of myself. The first one had great potential (two guys trapped in a basement room, and now stuff happens), but then squandered it with jackass characters who couldn't think or fight there way out of a paper bag, a villain who just wouldn't fucking shut up, and one of the lamest "twists" since aliens who were allergic to water.
Callisdrun
26-09-2008, 13:33
*tape recorder begins playing*

Hello NSG, I want to play a game. In a month I will bring upon my vengeance from beyond the grave. As I have stated before, my work will be carried out after I am dead. My games, my tests of the survival instinct in 21th Century humans will go on. The only question is, do you have what it takes to survive my games? The rules are simple, On October 24th, You, Them, Everyone will see what my apprentice is capable of. You will be tested, your will is going to be tested, the media will show some of my deadliest games yet. The only question is, do you have the survival instinct? Live or die, make your choice.

*tape cuts off*

SAW V website (http://www.saw5.com/site/index.html)

Seriously though, is anyone else excited about SAW V coming out in a month? Or am I just sick and deprived?

The first SAW movie was awesome, because it kept you in the dark about who was orchestrating everything until the very end.

After that, though, you know who's behind it and so the rest are shitty pointless exercises in "let's see how many different ways of torturing people we can come up with!"

So no, I'm not interested in the fifth one.
Agolthia
26-09-2008, 15:44
That sort of movie just doesn't appeal to me. Watching people getting tortured for what 2 1/2 hrs. I don't get it. That said I've never watched any of the SAW movies or Hostel or anything like that, so maybe there is a bit more to that. I still wouldn't want to watch it though.
Clomata
26-09-2008, 15:56
Saw I and II were interesting. I saw a bit of Saw III and it was as lame as I thought. I can't believe they actually made a fourth one. So yeah, I'm not interested.

But the first one was actually quite good.
Gauthier
26-09-2008, 15:56
I dunno, the whole series has struck me as being a gorefest with a minimal plot thrown in. Kinda like porn for people who want blood instead of boobs. Oh sure there's supposed to be a morality tale somewhere in there thrown in, but almost nobody ever escapes the deathtraps.
Clomata
26-09-2008, 16:04
There was really not much gore in the first one either.
Rambhutan
26-09-2008, 16:13
There was really not much gore in the first one either.

Less than in An Inconvenient Truth
DrunkenDove
26-09-2008, 16:17
The first SAW movie was awesome, because it kept you in the dark about who was orchestrating everything until the very end.

Shame it was spoiled by possibly the worst acting in anything, ever.
Clomata
26-09-2008, 16:25
Shame it was spoiled by possibly the worst acting in anything, ever.

I've seen this claim before and I just don't get it. Acting seemed just fine. But then I'm not a high school theater arts teacher so maybe I'm just not seeing the classic foibles that, apparently, should have ruined the movie for me. ;)
DrunkenDove
26-09-2008, 16:56
I've seen this claim before and I just don't get it. Acting seemed just fine. But then I'm not a high school theater arts teacher so maybe I'm just not seeing the classic foibles that, apparently, should have ruined the movie for me. ;)

Why even watch movies if everything you see isn't destroyed by barely perceptible foibles? That's all the fun!

But seriously, worst acting ever. I know where you're comming from, because when I watched it first I didn't notice either, as I was swept up by the story, or drunk or something. Then a friend said to me "worst acting ever" to which I replied in pretty much the same manner as you. And then he looked me in the eye and said "watch it again, and only pay attention to the acting". I did. I was horrified. It was a black day.

*shudders*
Riopo
26-09-2008, 17:36
Seriously though, is anyone else excited about SAW V coming out in a month? Or am I just sick and deprived?

Nope, you're just sick and deprived.
Haroth
26-09-2008, 17:59
It was a black day.

Excuse me? You mean "white day"!
Gravlen
26-09-2008, 18:24
The first one was good. The rest are trash. No, I don't care for the idea of Saw V. It's four too many.
Snafturi
26-09-2008, 20:23
The plot for the second one was so freaking retarded, I never continued with the franchise. I also can't belive how much Cary Elwes sucked in the first. If I want to watch random torture I'll take a Takashi Miike film any day. At least you get your money's worth.
Zilam
26-09-2008, 20:41
I watched the first one. it was okay. I prefer my horror films to actually be scary, and not necessarily gory. Too much gore desensitizes people and they eventually start looking for more and more films that are more and more gory. I prefer to stay simple, and get scared the old fashioned way.
Callisdrun
26-09-2008, 22:03
Shame it was spoiled by possibly the worst acting in anything, ever.

I've only seen it once, so I didn't notice so much.
Indri
27-09-2008, 07:29
I saw the first installment of this series and was impressed. It wasn't an instant classic but it really did outperform most other current major horror films. Then the handlers of this franchise decided to milk this cow dry, partially butcher it for meat, and now use the decaying corpse as fertilizer, possibly to feed a horse just so that it will get sick from the blight transmitted from racid flesh and die.

Sequels are rarely good unless the project is planned as a series from the start.
Indri
27-09-2008, 07:31
Excuse me? You mean "white day"!
It's a science term.
Dregruk
27-09-2008, 14:26
I didn't mind the first movie, mostly because it had some semblance of a plot and much gore. After that, they seemed to quickly spray-paint a plot over 2 hours of people being horribly murdered.

That it's made it to a 5th movie is just... embarrassing.
Andaluciae
27-09-2008, 14:33
Without a single question, the original was the best, if for no other reason, than how low-budget it was. It was, I daresay, a low-budget, exploitation film. What could be better folks? What could be better?

It plays off of our basest fears of being trapped, of being helpless, and of being forced to take options that are decidedly less than desirable. That's why Saw is scary. It uses cheap thrills, though, to exploit those fears.

Saw = Crime Horror par excellence.
Gauthier
27-09-2008, 15:22
Without a single question, the original was the best, if for no other reason, than how low-budget it was. It was, I daresay, a low-budget, exploitation film. What could be better folks? What could be better?

It plays off of our basest fears of being trapped, of being helpless, and of being forced to take options that are decidedly less than desirable. That's why Saw is scary. It uses cheap thrills, though, to exploit those fears.

Saw = Crime Horror par excellence.

Except one of the sequels violated the tenet by having a few victims killed anyways in deliberately escapeproof deathtraps.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
27-09-2008, 15:29
Without a single question, the original was the best, if for no other reason, than how low-budget it was. It was, I daresay, a low-budget, exploitation film. What could be better folks? What could be better?
A less preachy, annoying villain? Protagonists whose actions actually make sense?
Except one of the sequels violated the tenet by having a few victims killed anyways in deliberately escapeproof deathtraps.
I believe you meant to say, "except the original violated the tenet by having the guy who cut his foot off be left behind in the basement anyway."
Wilgrove
27-09-2008, 17:26
Why am I the only one who actually enjoyed all four? lol
Katganistan
27-09-2008, 17:31
SAW was interesting and original once. Now it's just a repetitive gorefest.
Western Mercenary Unio
27-09-2008, 17:32
I hope they don't make any crappy licence games about it.
Katganistan
27-09-2008, 17:33
I know, I saw the preview with the pendulum trap, Oh, I almost had an orgasm.

Man, I really am a sick fuck aren't I?
Right... because Edgar Allan Poe didn't come up with that in 1842, and it hasn't shown up in movies, video games, et cetera since....
Ifreann
27-09-2008, 17:46
They made more than one Saw film?
Adunabar
27-09-2008, 17:48
They made more than one Saw film?

Yes, sadly.
Wilgrove
27-09-2008, 17:49
I hope they don't make any crappy licence games about it.

Um.... (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/848/848532p1.html)
Wilgrove
27-09-2008, 17:49
Right... because Edgar Allan Poe didn't come up with that in 1842, and it hasn't shown up in movies, video games, et cetera since....

Yea, but it's just so awesome how they had the guy strapped down to a table, and with each swing, the blade gets lower and lower. :D

Yes I'm going to Hell, I know.
Tagmatium
27-09-2008, 17:53
First film was really good, the second was a rip-off of House of Nine, third was ridiculous (I found it funny towards the end) and didn't see fit to waste my money and see Saw IV. Will do the same with the fifth.
Katganistan
27-09-2008, 17:54
http://www.literature.org/authors/poe-edgar-allan/pit-and-pendulum.html
Western Mercenary Unio
27-09-2008, 18:00
Um.... (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/848/848532p1.html)

Oh God.. Well, here's hoping they don't make it as crappy as most licence games.
Ifreann
27-09-2008, 18:01
Yea, but it's just so awesome how they had the guy strapped down to a table, and with each swing, the blade gets lower and lower. :D

Yes I'm going to Hell, I know.

It was so awesome how the pendulum trap was a pendulum trap?
Wilgrove
27-09-2008, 18:31
It was so awesome how the pendulum trap was a pendulum trap?

Remember, I'm the kind of guy who can be entertained with shiny objects.

The best thing about the whole premises of all 4 (soon to be 5) films is that Jigsaw apparently has several games going on at one. He has a plan, and a backup plan. Hell he has a backup plan to a backup plan. So if one games fails to go the way it's susspose to, then he has a way to make up for that.
CthulhuFhtagn
27-09-2008, 18:41
Do... do you have a torture porn fetish or something? This is like the tenth thread you've made about this.
Ifreann
27-09-2008, 18:44
Remember, I'm the kind of guy who can be entertained with shiny objects.

This is more on the level of being entertained by a door handle functioning properly.
Adunabar
27-09-2008, 18:57
Do... do you have a torture porn fetish or something? This is like the tenth thread you've made about this.

Read his "orgasm" sentence.
Dinaverg
27-09-2008, 19:13
This is more on the level of being entertained by a door handle functioning properly.

But look! When you turn it, the door unlatches.
Gravlen
27-09-2008, 20:15
Why am I the only one who actually enjoyed all four? lol

Do you really want an answer to that question?
Snafturi
27-09-2008, 20:18
Seriously, go find Audition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMeoyrHCoTY) if you want sick and twisted gruesome greusomeness. Don't waste your time with these child's movies.
Callisdrun
27-09-2008, 20:22
Why am I the only one who actually enjoyed all four? lol

Because, while I watched the first one for suspense and plot, you watch them just because you like seeing people (admittedly actors and it's not really happening) getting tortured that much? And consequently, while the lack of plot bugged me too much to be interested in the sequels, you were getting off so much on the torture that you didn't notice what steaming piles of shit the sequels were?
Callisdrun
27-09-2008, 20:24
Without a single question, the original was the best, if for no other reason, than how low-budget it was. It was, I daresay, a low-budget, exploitation film. What could be better folks? What could be better?

It plays off of our basest fears of being trapped, of being helpless, and of being forced to take options that are decidedly less than desirable. That's why Saw is scary. It uses cheap thrills, though, to exploit those fears.

Saw = Crime Horror par excellence.

The most frightening aspect of the original for me was not knowing who was setting it all up, who was calling the shots and where they were. Sort of that scary "it could be anyone" thing.
Adunabar
27-09-2008, 20:34
The most frightening aspect of the original for me was not knowing who was setting it all up, who was calling the shots and where they were. Sort of that scary "it could be anyone" thing.

I think the scariest bit is not confronting a person, but your own phsycology and a machine.