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My roommates refuse to support my "habbit" and so when we go out, they always drive right past Starbucks and stop at Wawa, where they claim to be "Coffeetopia", which is a lie. They don't even sell espresso, and their coffee is really weak.

Starbucks = win?

No, Starbucks = More Money to Spend on Shit.

No, Starbucks = More Money to Spend on Shit.

We're talking about quality and products, not prices, Jew.

Dunkin Donuts = random choice :P

They both suck.

We're talking about quality and products, not prices, Jew.

So was I. How else did you think the Yankees kept on winning until recently?

Leftist.

No. Starbucks=shitty burned coffee.

I have a small automatic, and a bag of DD's coffee on hand at work. I make my own, nice and fresh, and use good cream that hasn't been sitting out all morning--and I CAN DRINK AS MUCH AS I WANT, all for under ten bucks.

Dunkin Donuts = random choice :P

Only if you lack taste buds. Tim Hortens is better.

My roommates refuse to support my "habbit" and so when we go out, they always drive right past Starbucks and stop at Wawa, where they claim to be "Coffeetopia", which is a lie. They don't even sell espresso, and their coffee is really weak.

Starbucks = win?

Coffee = engine de-greaser.

eveyone has their own tastes. People like coffee, I don't. people like starbucks, some don't.

Cafe Nero FTW

largely for their hot chocolates and panini

tasters choice mixed with hot cocoa is where it's at
I got two turn tables and a microphone

I just woke up and thought you mean this Wawa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawa,_Ontario) and was confused.

Tim Horton's is better than either.

My roommates refuse to support my "habbit" and so when we go out, they always drive right past Starbucks and stop at Wawa, where they claim to be "Coffeetopia", which is a lie. They don't even sell espresso, and their coffee is really weak.

Starbucks = win?

Starbucks = massive fail.

Nothing is inferior to Starbucks.

A couple buddies of mine were stuck in Wawa, Ontario for three days. They were trying to hitchhike from Toronto to Vancouver. Eventually they stood on opposite sides of the road, one thumbing for a ride west the other for a ride east, didn't matter which, just so they got out of Wawa.

If an establishment does not sell alcohol I have no time for it.

Wawa akbar!

My roommates refuse to support my "habbit" and so when we go out, they always drive right past Starbucks and stop at Wawa, where they claim to be "Coffeetopia", which is a lie. They don't even sell espresso, and their coffee is really weak.

Starbucks = win?
Abso fucking lutely.

A greasyspoon cafe beats starbucks

Tim Hortons.

I don't even like Coffee, but they make epic Tea.

Starbucks = massive fail.

Nothing is inferior to Starbucks.

I love how people say stuff like this, and it's usually just because Starbucks got worldwide first and fastest. I like the iced mocha there, very earthy and not too sweet (nonfat iced mocha, no whip is my usual order, even in winter because I don't like warm beverages, never have). Caribou Coffee is a bit sweeter, Peet's is indeed superior to Starbucks. Never been to Wawa or Nero, and Horton's is best for your basic coffee, not espresso. I'm on the wrong coast for Dunkin. By far the best overall I found in Louisiana, called Community Coffee. Fan-damn-tastic stuff and goes best with a beignet.

I guess my point is to try as much of a variety as you can without being some bandwagon douchebag who either puts down Comapny X because they're the most popular in an effort to be "edgy", or who only goes to one place ever, no matter what it is, without at least trying something else. Here in Spokane, Rocket Bakery is tops on the list so far, but there's lots of locals to choose from.

If an establishment does not sell alcohol I have no time for it.

^^ This

I love how people say stuff like this, and it's usually just because Starbucks got worldwide first and fastest. I like the iced mocha there, very earthy and not too sweet (nonfat iced mocha, no whip is my usual order, even in winter because I don't like warm beverages, never have). Caribou Coffee is a bit sweeter, Peet's is indeed superior to Starbucks. Never been to Wawa or Nero, and Horton's is best for your basic coffee, not espresso. I'm on the wrong coast for Dunkin. By far the best overall I found in Louisiana, called Community Coffee. Fan-damn-tastic stuff and goes best with a beignet.

I guess my point is to try as much of a variety as you can without being some bandwagon douchebag who either puts down Comapny X because they're the most popular in an effort to be "edgy", or who only goes to one place ever, no matter what it is, without at least trying something else. Here in Spokane, Rocket Bakery is tops on the list so far, but there's lots of locals to choose from.

Starbucks and their yuppy customers annoy me. And their coffee is shitty. And I don't like their corporate practices.

If an establishment does not sell alcohol I have no time for it.

An interesting position, but not without merit.

Starbucks and their yuppy customers annoy me. And their coffee is shitty. And I don't like their corporate practices.

Yes, because everyone who walks into a Starbucks is a yuppie. Come on.

As for the quality of their coffee, this nation nearly as a whole used to think nothing was better than instant coffee. We've all got different tastes. You think it sucks. That doesn't mean it's an absolute.

EDIT: I'd love to see coffee from all the available places dispensed in unmarked cups and see if people could identify what "sucked" and what didn't. I'll wager lots of people would still choose Starbucks. Not all of them. Probably not half. But a significant fraction certainly would.

Yes, because everyone who walks into a Starbucks is a yuppie. Come on.

As for the quality of their coffee, this nation nearly as a whole used to think nothing was better than instant coffee. We've all got different tastes. You think it sucks. That doesn't mean it's an absolute.

EDIT: I'd love to see coffee from all the available places dispensed in unmarked cups and see if people could identify what "sucked" and what didn't. I'll wager lots of people would still choose Starbucks. Not all of them. Probably not half. But a significant fraction certainly would.

Starbucks is like the Yankees. They're both examples of the Golden Rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules. Any of those other coffee businesses could improve just as much or even better if they had the oodles of capital to invest in quality importers and such.

Yes, because everyone who walks into a Starbucks is a yuppie. Come on.

As for the quality of their coffee, this nation nearly as a whole used to think nothing was better than instant coffee. We've all got different tastes. You think it sucks. That doesn't mean it's an absolute.

EDIT: I'd love to see coffee from all the available places dispensed in unmarked cups and see if people could identify what "sucked" and what didn't. I'll wager lots of people would still choose Starbucks. Not all of them. Probably not half. But a significant fraction certainly would.

Yes, my opinion is absolute.

Yes, my opinion is absolute.

Well, so long as you're dealing with your solipsism and megalomania, I don't mind if you express it here. ;)

Starbucks is like the Yankees. They're both examples of the Golden Rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules. Any of those other coffee businesses could improve just as much or even better if they had the oodles of capital to invest in quality importers and such.

And that capital came from...? It wasn't like Howard Schultz was already rich when the company was founded. They found their business model and ran with it around the world. I try to support local places, but if I just need something to keep my eyes open on the road or jolt me before a hike, Starbucks is fine. I don't go there for the mass-produced atmosphere.

And that capital came from...? It wasn't like Howard Schultz was already rich when the company was founded. They found their business model and ran with it around the world. I try to support local places, but if I just need something to keep my eyes open on the road or jolt me before a hike, Starbucks is fine. I don't go there for the mass-produced atmosphere.

Everyone knows where the capital came from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnMaroAlfvI

:D

Well, so long as you're dealing with your solipsism and megalomania, I don't mind if you express it here. ;)

As well you shouldn't, or I would smite you. Mercilessly.

Starbucks is like the Yankees. They're both examples of the Golden Rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules. Any of those other coffee businesses could improve just as much or even better if they had the oodles of capital to invest in quality importers and such.
Uhu... but they don't, because Starbucks is a fundamentally more successful company than them, and has kicked their arses.

My roommates refuse to support my "habbit" and so when we go out, they always drive right past Starbucks and stop at Wawa, where they claim to be "Coffeetopia", which is a lie. They don't even sell espresso, and their coffee is really weak.

Starbucks = win?

For me regular Starbucks coffee is earthy and just not very good. I do like their frappes and some other items. Comparing Wawa to Starbucks is kind of silly. Wawa is a convenience store, and a cheap place to get gas if you have the combo available to you. Wawa's regular or Kona coffee is superior to Starbucks blend of the day. This is of course just my opinion.

We're talking about quality and products, not prices, Jew.

Ease back on the religious stereotyping please. It's beneath us all.

Bah, coffee is for the weak. If you really need to stay awake, use a stun gun.

That new alarm clock that wakes you up with fresh bacon is great, but something ideal would be a bed wired to a taser which is hooked to the alarm clock. When the alarm clock goes off, one gets a refreshing series of intermittent jolts until they scramble off the bed, hit the off button that can only be reached once somebody has reached the other side of the room, and presto, they're awake! Or maybe we should say ZAP! and they're awake.

Something similar can be worked into one's desk chair. Too little motion, and a few jolts to wake that person up. Who needs coffee?!?

I thought "Wawa" was baby talk for "water" maybe that is why their coffee is weak

My roommates refuse to support my "habbit" and so when we go out, they always drive right past Starbucks and stop at Wawa, where they claim to be "Coffeetopia", which is a lie. They don't even sell espresso, and their coffee is really weak.

Starbucks = win?

Eh. De gustibus non disputandum est yadda yadda. Much more important is that anyone who uses the word "Coffeetopia" in a non-mocking manner is a total loser. (Not sure from your OP if this includes your roommates, or just the wage slaves who work at Wawa, but it needed to be said.)

In all seriousness, Il Ruffino, your roommates aren't obligated to drive you to Starbucks. If you want it so bad, drive/walk/bike/take the bus there yourself.

Uhu... but they don't, because Starbucks is a fundamentally more successful company than them, and has kicked their arses.

That's a rather simplistic blanket statement that can be applied to a lot of things regardless of truth.

... but they don't, because Microsoft is a fundamentally more successful company than them, and has kicked their arses.

And I have yet to hear of people on NSG or the Internet in general call anything from Microsoft "a superior product".

Meh, Starbucks is fine, and I'll go there every once in a while (typically if I'm meeting somebody there), but I can get a 92 cent refill on my coffee mug at the student center($3 or so for the cup the first time, and it's 92c to refill with any drink in the cafeteria there-- great deal for people like me who tend to eat lunch there between classes and work almost every day.), or even (gasp!) make my own coffee.
Either way is rather cheaper than Starbucks, and making your own has the benefit of being able to have it made fresh exactly how you like it.

a bunch of star$'s union busted wabblies. there are lots of other places to get expresso, mochas, et all. better because its some brand name franchise? give me a break and get a brain. you don't have to support franchise joints, and odds are, quality goes down everywhere by doing so, however great one or another might be to begin with.

look for real mom and pop, that's the real capitolism if that's what you want to support, not corporate faschism. then you'll have to check out each place rather then going by a franchise name. but think about it. if you're honest with yourself you'll realize you still need to now.

branding is just another sucker game. get over it.

a bunch of star$'s union busted wabblies. there are lots of other places to get expresso, mochas, et all. better because its some brand name franchise? give me a break and get a brain. you don't have to support franchise joints, and odds are, quality goes down everywhere by doing so, however great one or another might be to begin with.

look for real mom and pop, that's the real capitolism if that's what you want to support, not corporate faschism. then you'll have to check out each place rather then going by a franchise name. but think about it. if you're honest with yourself you'll realize you still need to now.

branding is just another sucker game. get over it.

Are you intoxicated?

In all seriousness, Il Ruffino, your roommates aren't obligated to drive you to Starbucks. If you want it so bad, drive/walk/bike/take the bus there yourself.

Actually when he said they refused to support his habit, I thought he wanted them to pay for his coffee, they chuck a few quid into the hat each and he has enough money to buy himself a latte.

If an establishment does not sell alcohol I have no time for it.

What they don't sell Irish coffee?

branding is just another sucker game. get over it.

Donut: Brand names are for suckers!

Actually when he said they refused to support his habit, I thought he wanted them to pay for his coffee, they chuck a few quid into the hat each and he has enough money to buy himself a latte.

lol. Now that would be especially ridiculous, expecting his roommates to both drive him to starfucks and pay for his coffee. But I don't think that's what he meant.

Bah, coffee is for the weak. If you really need to stay awake, use a stun gun.

That new alarm clock that wakes you up with fresh bacon is great, but something ideal would be a bed wired to a taser which is hooked to the alarm clock. When the alarm clock goes off, one gets a refreshing series of intermittent jolts until they scramble off the bed, hit the off button that can only be reached once somebody has reached the other side of the room, and presto, they're awake! Or maybe we should say ZAP! and they're awake.

Something similar can be worked into one's desk chair. Too little motion, and a few jolts to wake that person up. Who needs coffee?!?

audifax o'hanlon was one of the five wisest men in all of human history.

Dunkin Donuts iced coffee are the greatest thing to happen to anything since ever, and anyone who doesn't agree needs to have their testicles/ovaries removed to keep their inferior tastes from being propagated.
Starbucks is for Lite Intellectuals and people pursuing Business degrees (ewwww).

My roommates refuse to support my "habbit" and so when we go out, they always drive right past Starbucks and stop at Wawa, where they claim to be "Coffeetopia", which is a lie. They don't even sell espresso, and their coffee is really weak.

Starbucks = win?

Starbuck's = overbrewed, bad coffee that needs to have the burned taste disguised with crap.

Seattle's Best is best.

Seattle's Best is best.

Seattle's Best is Starbucks.

Seattle's Best is Starbucks.

Then the employees of Seattle's Best/starbucks are more competent at brewing the coffee than the employees of Starbucks/seattle's best. They may or may not be owned by the same people, but they are clearly not taught how to make coffee by the same people.

A couple buddies of mine were stuck in Wawa, Ontario for three days. They were trying to hitchhike from Toronto to Vancouver. Eventually they stood on opposite sides of the road, one thumbing for a ride west the other for a ride east, didn't matter which, just so they got out of Wawa.

I drove through once and that was enough. I fled back to the Soo as fast as I could.

Jawjaw is better than Wawa

Jawjaw is better than Wawa
*feeds you to a crocodile*

I do not like Starbucks. I was in 3 different ones here in Germany (Cologne, Braunschweig, Düsseldorf), I considered the menu horribly obfuscated, the coffee only average and the seats uncomfortable. Also I prefer more neutral forms of light than normally used in them (such a cheap trick to attempt to create a pleasurable environment).

Jawjaw is better than Wawa

i like Pawpaw. fresh pussy in your cup.

i like Pawpaw. fresh pussy in your cup.

I lol'd

A Starbucks isn't even a second rate coffeehouse- it's a third rate confectionery.

Are you intoxicated?

A far nicer question than the one I was going to ask. Well done.

Dunkin Donuts iced coffee are the greatest thing to happen to anything since ever, and anyone who doesn't agree needs to have their testicles/ovaries removed to keep their inferior tastes from being propagated.
Starbucks is for Lite Intellectuals and people pursuing Business degrees (ewwww).

:rolleyes:

Why does it have to be a matter of lazy stereotypes? Why can't it be a matter of personal preference? Do you simply enjoy pissing on anything that stands out as successful to try and look "edgy"? I mean, if YOU don't like it, that's fine, and you're more than welcome to espouse your view, but to say such generalizing shit like that says more about you than Starbucks. So far, I've been in at least 20 different Starbucks from Arizona to North Dakota across the West, I never once saw people pursuing business degrees or other people pretentiously chatting. Mostly I see people reading the paper or friends having conversations.

Get over yourself.

:rolleyes:

Why does it have to be a matter of lazy stereotypes? Why can't it be a matter of personal preference?
But lazy stereotypes are my personal preference, you hypocrite!
Do you simply enjoy pissing on anything that stands out as successful to try and look "edgy"?
Dunkin Donuts serves something like three million people a day, so I'd say that's pretty damned successful.