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Okay, while I don't hate all vegans or vegetarians, I do have to say that the ones that seem to demonstrating near my apartment every week are getting damn annoying. I've even started deliberately eating meat products when I'm walking by (mostly just a few pieces of Beef Jerky, a truly great food) to get them off my case. Unfortunately, I've now got the one that shows up every Wednesday on my case about the nutritional completeness of veganism.

Now, I'm not a meat-a-tarian. I do eat my veggies. Often grilled right there with my meat portion for easy cooking. But the human jaw has canines and incisors that are evolved from a meat-containing diet. My heckler seems to ignore this, and I don't want to go all out with my leather jacket, deer hide hat (from a buck my dad shot when I was a kid) just to piss him off. However, I checked and he's not doing anything that I could get him cited for, so what do I say to him next time he's around to convince him that the argument won't be won with me?

Okay, while I don't hate all vegans or vegetarians, I do have to say that the ones that seem to demonstrating near my apartment every week are getting damn annoying. I've even started deliberately eating meat products when I'm walking by (mostly just a few pieces of Beef Jerky, a truly great food) to get them off my case. Unfortunately, I've now got the one that shows up every Wednesday on my case about the nutritional completeness of veganism.

Now, I'm not a meat-a-tarian. I do eat my veggies. Often grilled right there with my meat portion for easy cooking. But the human jaw has canines and incisors that are evolved from a meat-containing diet. My heckler seems to ignore this, and I don't want to go all out with my leather jacket, deer hide hat (from a buck my dad shot when I was a kid) just to piss him off. However, I checked and he's not doing anything that I could get him cited for, so what do I say to him next time he's around to convince him that the argument won't be won with me?

Nothing. Just ignore them. They hate that, and you don't look like more of an asshole than the protester. Walk by with a hot dog, a burger, something more obviously meaty than jerky, and just let 'em rant.

I've found that the best way to quickly and reasonably stop either demonstrators and/or cold callers is to say I do, or have, whatever they're on about.

So just say you're already a vegetarian, give them the thumbs up as you walk past.

Everyone's happy.

Say to these people what you say to Mormons. They are doing the same thing it is just a different belief.

Ignore them, ask the guy to explain vegan beliefs over a nice steak dinner, or a nice breakfast with bacon, eggs, milk, etc.

Or, do as you said. Wear your leather jacket, eat beef jerky.

You could always just say you aren't interested.

Or you could tell them that you like meat, and aren't gonna stop eating it.

Eat them.

Eat them.

haha!

well, played!

In before the vegetarians on this board come over and say your the jerk.

Tell him, politely, that you've heard everything he's had to say, you're unconvinced, you will remain unconvinced and that he should leave you alone. If that doesn't work and he continues to harass you, say it again, and explain that there are laws about harassment. If that doesn't work, file a complaint, protesting isn't against the law, singling you out and harassing you is, I am fairly sure, against the law, probably a misdemeanor. You might check with one of the legal types here first.

Hold a sausage sizzle for all the hungry protesters.

Eat them.

Agreed: After all, most of our meat animals are herbivores. Just remember to thank them for being considerate enough to adopt the vegan diet.

If I get pestered by vegans, I will react in my own unique goofballian fashion. Pushing such ideas and ideals on other people is obnoxious and worthy of retribution.

On the other hand, singling out vegans just because they're vegans is just as obnoxious.


that being said, I would probably shoot meatballs at them with a homemade meatball gun. *nod*

Nothing. Just ignore them. They hate that, and you don't look like more of an asshole than the protester. Walk by with a hot dog, a burger, something more obviously meaty than jerky, and just let 'em rant.

This.

I find people who protest the dietary habits of others this way to be quite annoying, since it's just plain being a jackass. It's one thing--a good thing--to advise healthy eating, but you don't need to push veganism on me anymore than I would push meat on you.

Ignore them of claim to be a vegan/vegetarian already. Maybe say that some friend of yours is getting you into it.

Eat a fucking hamburger with two large slices of lettuce, a few pickles, a tomato slice, and a few onion bits on it and don't give two shits about what they have to say about it.

And, in fact, if he's going to rub his almighty Vegan ass in your face, with all of his superior knowledge about which diet suits people best, order a whole rack of baby back ribs and go nuts.

Eat a fucking hamburger with two large slices of lettuce, a few pickles, a tomato slice, and a few onion bits on it and don't give two shits about what they have to say about it.

And, in fact, if he's going to rub his almighty Vegan ass in your face, with all of his superior knowledge about which diet suits people best, order a whole rack of baby back ribs and go nuts.

Is his almighty vegan ass was nice and rump, you could suggest cutting a portion of it off and using it for a BBQ.

Do nothing. Tell him that the more he talks to you, the less you're considering becoming a vegan/vegetarian/mormon/jehovah's witness/scientologist whatever.

Then of course, you could also tell him that human flesh tastes a lot like veal, and he'd go well with some nice marinade and seasoning.

A bacon sandwich to a vegan is like a cross to a vampire. Always carry one with you.

A bacon sandwich to a vegan is like a cross to a vampire. Always carry one with you.

Carry, but not eat? You ask the impossible of me, sir.

Vegetarianism is stupid to me...i mean...why?!

Vegetarianism is stupid to me...i mean...why?!

Generally it's to do with holding animal rights in high regard.

Generally it's to do with holding animal rights in high regard.
I hold animals in high regard. Usually above my chin, and below my nose.:wink:

I'm saying that's just dumb. Is it so hard to say that you're not interested? Live and let others live (well, if we're precise, meat-eaters don't, but let's not get into that) and all that jazz.

Same goes for religious wackos and others too. If they even after you've stated your opinion insist in telling you how great their diet/religion/etc is, green flag from me. I secretly do love cracking those Jehova's witnesses balls (in an abstract manner, that is)

And as for the naturalness of meat-eating, the human body certainly wasn't designed to eat meat daily. More like once a week or so.

Besides, most meat tastes like crap. Some lamb products are an exception.

Besides, most meat tastes like crap. Some lamb products are an exception.

Your cooking it wrong.

Unfortunately, I've now got the one that shows up every Wednesday on my case about the nutritional completeness of veganism

get a restraining order if they keep on turning up. Its your home.

Or otherwise every time he starts a lecture just say these two easy words "fuck off"

If your a vegan or anything else fine. But im going to eat meat like all off my ancestors have

Gnaw on a chicken leg and tell them it's a vegan chicken leg. ;)

Gnaw on a chicken leg and tell them it's a vegan chicken leg. ;)

With modern cloning and gene splicing technology, a Vegan chicken leg might just be possible.:eek:

Off to the labs!:cool:

Gnaw on a chicken leg and tell them it's a vegan chicken leg. ;)

If I had the time and inclination, it would be interesting to deck myself out in my finest hemp trousers, my 'Vegetarians do it with carrots' T-shirt and espadrilles on my feet, read up on some basic vegetarian philosophies and then totally eco them out, over-enthusiastic eco-nut.

You could build it all up, start with some slightly radical eco-philosophies, hint at the dark end of man's domination of the planet, discreetly asking if they're into 'animal liberation', talk about natural means of creating bombs, wonder how to send ricin through the mail to some 'vet, like, people'.

Interesting in term of seeing at what point they'd begin to freak out.

Purely as a scientific experiment.

With modern cloning and gene splicing technology, a Vegan chicken leg might just be possible.:eek:

Off to the labs!:cool:
They tried to do something like that for astronauts (that is to say, grow meat using a petri dish rather than real animals). The result was basically a tumor, and people were understandably less than excited about eating it.

Anyway, what's wrong with just ignoring the people? I do it to panhandlers all the time, just close your ears, keep your eyes forward and accelerate your pace (though don't run, that just shows fear, and protesters like fear as much as they like negative attention).

They tried to do something like that for astronauts (that is to say, grow meat using a petri dish rather than real animals). The result was basically a tumor, and people were understandably less than excited about eating it.

Anyway, what's wrong with just ignoring the people? I do it to panhandlers all the time, just close your ears, keep your eyes forward and accelerate your pace (though don't run, that just shows fear, and protesters like fear as much as they like negative attention).

Well, the last time a Vegan accosted me, I ended up with a cool cookbook, and spent a rather pleasant half hour talking to a beautiful Indian woman. Glad I didn't ignore her, but I guess thats why she was out recruiting.:wink: Mostly I get harassed by religeous idiots. Rarely more than once per idiot though. I think I intimidate them.

Only eat carnivorous animals like dogs or snakes. Then tell them that while you're not willing to give up meat, you're at least not eating anything that didn't have it coming.

Anyway, what's wrong with just ignoring the people? I do it to panhandlers all the time, just close your ears, keep your eyes forward and accelerate your pace (though don't run, that just shows fear, and protesters like fear as much as they like negative attention).

I usually run whenever I can, just in general. So that if anyone like that does try to stop me, I have an apparent excuse "he's running, so he must be in a hurry". It works like a charm. Even when I see people I know but don't want to talk to. No one wants to be the rude bastard who stops you when you're in a hurry.

I would try saying something like this (in a very nice way)

"Listen <insert his name here>, I think that you're probably a really great guy and it's nice that you're concerned about my health, but I like my current dietary habits. If I ever decide that I don't like them anymore, I'll be sure to ask your advice in changing them. If you want to talk about something other than my dietary choices and how they differ from yours, you're welcome to stop by and have a chat. Otherwise, could you please think of whether you would like me showing up at your door telling you about the joys of steak before you come here and tell me that my dietary choices are bad/wrong?"


If he's a reasonable person (and you explain this in a very nice and reasonable way) he'll either leave you alone or you have gained a vegan friend... who might be more inclined to ask his other friends to protest across the street so you don't have to walk through them. If he's just a jerk then you'll be no worse off.

Reason doesn't work.

You have to convince the guy you're even crazier than he is.
One day when you're bored, spend fifteen minutes arguing with him that animals have been created by G-d to serve the man, and it's not just our right, but our duty to put their components - meat and skin - to good use.
Strongly stay on the positions of the Flat Earth and Intelligent Design theories, and, should he argue back, accuse him of being part of a great conspiracy.

Reason doesn't work.

You have to convince the guy you're even crazier than he is.
One day when you're bored, spend fifteen minutes arguing with him that animals have been created by G-d to serve the man, and it's not just our right, but our duty to put their components - meat and skin - to good use.
Strongly stay on the positions of the Flat Earth and Intelligent Design theories, and, should he argue back, accuse him of being part of a great conspiracy.

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See it as an opportunity.

Entertain yourself, and always...

Do it, video it, upload it and send us the link.

that being said, I would probably shoot meatballs at them with a homemade meatball gun. *nod*

CO2? Butane? Some other adaptation of potato gun technology? It's probably too difficult to properly reload 12ga. shotshells.

I hold animals in high regard. Usually above my chin, and below my nose.:wink:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/358317592_868aa124e5.jpg?v=0

I hold animals in high regard. Usually above my chin, and below my nose.:wink:

Stop pretending you have a moustache and take that weasel off your upper lip.

CO2? Butane? Some other adaptation of potato gun technology? It's probably too difficult to properly reload 12ga. shotshells.



http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/358317592_868aa124e5.jpg?v=0

Probably some compressed air gun. Maybe a variant of the marshmallow cannon.

But the human jaw has canines and incisors that are evolved from a meat-containing diet.

If well fell like doing, or we naturally can do it, we obviously should do it, as nature is certainly the best moral guide.

"Look - if I eat meat, I am making an inefficient use of natural resources. In essence - if everyone went vegetarian there would be a lot less starving Africans.
Would that not be horrrible ? Even MORE humans on this planet, polluting it ?
So start thanking me !"

Ask them if eating animals who died of natural causes is immoral.

Hey, bleeding from a massive head wound is natural.

This is good, I approve this message.

See it as an opportunity.

Entertain yourself, and always...

Do it, video it, upload it and send us the link.

This.

Nothing. Just ignore them. They hate that, and you don't look like more of an asshole than the protester. Walk by with a hot dog, a burger, something more obviously meaty than jerky, and just let 'em rant.

^ ^ this.

I had an idea...

You talk to him for a few minutes, growing gloomier and sadder... Then, at some point, you go:

"Oh, screw it. I never wanted to do this. Talking to a vegan activist for hours on end about my diet... I always wanted to be... A LUMBERJACK!"

Then sing, sing, SING! :D

Tell him you're doing your part to end global warming by removing as many methane producers you can.

(eating a hamburger while making this point would be good)

Okay, while I don't hate all vegans or vegetarians, I do have to say that the ones that seem to demonstrating near my apartment every week are getting damn annoying. I've even started deliberately eating meat products when I'm walking by (mostly just a few pieces of Beef Jerky, a truly great food) to get them off my case. Unfortunately, I've now got the one that shows up every Wednesday on my case about the nutritional completeness of veganism.

Now, I'm not a meat-a-tarian. I do eat my veggies. Often grilled right there with my meat portion for easy cooking. But the human jaw has canines and incisors that are evolved from a meat-containing diet. My heckler seems to ignore this, and I don't want to go all out with my leather jacket, deer hide hat (from a buck my dad shot when I was a kid) just to piss him off. However, I checked and he's not doing anything that I could get him cited for, so what do I say to him next time he's around to convince him that the argument won't be won with me?

The logical answer is to take whatever they are doing one step further.

Tell them that your beliefs only allow you to eat food that has already been eaten once, and ask if they would like some more information.

I'd say you would be well advised to offer them a nice, cold beer. Preferably a craft brewed, unpasteurized beer. As they consume, remind them that those little "Yeastie Boys" that make beer so wonderfully alcoholic are actually complex animal cells. Ask them to delineate what makes cows and pigs so magically different from these tiny, single celled organisms, especially given that they both share roughly 95% of their genetic material--if not more.

And remind them, that, as they digest the Yeasties, the Yeastie Beasties are alive. :)

Probably some compressed air gun. Maybe a variant of the marshmallow cannon.

A meatball gun would be inefficient, for the amount of meat delivered per shot. Why not use a M.O.A.M.P.*?





M.O.A.M.P. = Mother Of All Meat Pies

The logical answer is to take whatever they are doing one step further.

Tell them that your beliefs only allow you to eat food that has already been eaten once, and ask if they would like some more information.

"I'd only be allowed to eat Venus fly traps and Pitcher Plants if I followed your advice. Do you know where I can get some of those?"

I like where your thoughts are going :)

Tell them that anyone who seeks to control what another person can eat is a fascist.

Then step back and seig heil them and walk away

Only eat carnivorous animals like dogs or snakes. Then tell them that while you're not willing to give up meat, you're at least not eating anything that didn't have it coming.

I don't eat other carnivorous mammals out of professional courtesy. The exception is that I'd be willing to eat things that would probably kill and eat me. Like lions, tigers and bears. Though I'd prefer a vegetarian animal.

Ask them if eating animals who died of natural causes is immoral.

Hey, bleeding from a massive head wound is natural.

Just make sure thay don't notice your head wound creation device.

Remember, throughout your life your immune system is destroying bacteria and viruses. I recommend that the hardcore wacko environemntalist types off themselves. After all, aren't human overpopulation and consumption the problems they complain about? Feed the worms if you really care.

I like the huge

5 TIPS FOR A FLAT STOMACH

add displayed in this topic. Nice subliminal message.

Just make sure thay don't notice your head wound creation device.

That's not a head wound creation device, its a mineral suppliment delivery system.

lots of animals are missing alot of mineral suppliments.

I like the huge

5 TIPS FOR A FLAT STOMACH

add displayed in this topic. Nice subliminal message.

Really? I got a "Justice Pays: Be a Community Hero" ad. :D

I don't eat other carnivorous mammals out of professional courtesy. The exception is that I'd be willing to eat things that would probably kill and eat me. Like lions, tigers and bears. Though I'd prefer a vegetarian animal.

Pfft! Anyone who doesn't exclusively live on a diet of pufferfish is a pussy.

I had an idea...

You talk to him for a few minutes, growing gloomier and sadder... Then, at some point, you go:

"Oh, screw it. I never wanted to do this. Talking to a vegan activist for hours on end about my diet... I always wanted to be... A LUMBERJACK!"

Then sing, sing, SING! :D

oh my fucking jesus crap, do this!

Pfft! Anyone who doesn't exclusively live on a diet of pufferfish is a pussy.

I'm a pussy? Well, not to be crude but... actually fuck that, I'll be quite crude if I want. They say you are what you eat, so I can't argue with that.

Get an apron particularly the butcher-style, cover yourself in red paint, get a fake butcher's knife and walk by with the knife tucked into your belt with a sack draped over you shoulder that says "miscellaneous animal parts". Offer the bag to them and say it's your way of making peace. If you can, make the sack appear bloody.

Mind you, this suggestion is coming from someone who only eats bacon, and otherwise only eats fish - I just don't like the taste of meat. But, I hate vegetarian/vegan protesters even more.

Repeat as necessary.

Probably some compressed air gun. Maybe a variant of the marshmallow cannon.

Might I suggest the Chicken Gun? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Chicken_Gun)

get 10+ friends
Get 50 pounds of raw meat. Be sure one has Concealed carry permit and has Fire Arm.
Set up Decoy Barbecue cook a few burgers. get a good vantage point such as a roof or wooded area throw Raw Meat on to protesters. Let protesters see/follow you back to Barbecue. When protesters arrive in mass have friend with Hand gun fire into Air a few times. normally the protesters will scatter like the wind. Kick over Barbecue grill and Barbecue stuff. When the police arrive have carefully rehearsed story about Vegetarians attacking your barbecue. if you can have some "witnesses" happen to walk by who saw it all the better. Laugh as the police throw a few of the ring leaders in jail for 24 hours and the city uses the incident to deny protest permits for the vegetarians.


On a serious not if it bothers you so much go talk to your city. Most cities are more then happy to help you get the upper hand on protesters. What they might do is issue you a permit to protest in that area which would enable you to call the police on them to protect your right to protest. They are likely to even help you by waiting to accept applications to protest until you arrive at the city every month.

oh my fucking jesus crap, do this!

Glad you like! :D

Edit:

Suggestions:

Find some socially acceptable and non-criminal way to hold the guy (like embracing) to prevent him from escaping during the song.

If you have roommates or friends over, etc, they get to sing the refrain!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/358317592_868aa124e5.jpg?v=0

I got a shirt that says the same thing.

Glad you like! :D

Edit:

Suggestions:

Find some socially acceptable and non-criminal way to hold the guy (like embracing) to prevent him from escaping during the song.

If you have roommates or friends over, etc, they get to sing the refrain!

"I love nature, I wouldn't dream of hurting any animal. to lose yourself among the trees, to listen to the Lark, the Robin, the Majestic Eagle... to witness a mother deer leading her fawn to a clear crystal lake for a drink... [start getting loud and excited] that's nature, that's what we should endevor to become one with! not hunting them for food or clothes. Hawaiians use tree bark for clothing, why can't we!

To join in Nature's splendor, to see all the grand things nature has to offer (at this point, you should be shoulder to shoulder with your arm on his shoulder as you "paint your vision for him")

to be... a LUMBERJACK! Swinging from tree to tree as they float down the majestic river... with my best mate[s*] at my side, I'll sing... SING... SING!!!

[Then sing while gripping him tightly around the shoulders]

* If you can get several friends to join in, you can also have them "tether" him to you while they all gather around to sing.

"I love nature, I wouldn't dream of hurting any animal. to lose yourself among the trees, to listen to the Lark, the Robin, the Majestic Eagle... to witness a mother deer leading her fawn to a clear crystal lake for a drink... [start getting loud and excited] that's nature, that's what we should endevor to become one with! not hunting them for food or clothes. Hawaiians use tree bark for clothing, why can't we!

To join in Nature's splendor, to see all the grand things nature has to offer (at this point, you should be shoulder to shoulder with your arm on his shoulder as you "paint your vision for him")

to be... a LUMBERJACK! Swinging from tree to tree as they float down the majestic river... with my best mate[s*] at my side, I'll sing... SING... SING!!!

[Then sing while gripping him tightly around the shoulders]

* If you can get several friends to join in, you can also have them "tether" him to you while they all gather around to sing.

I think my version is more in-keeping with the Python Way, due to having less smooth a transition, but yours is good... :D

I think my version is more in-keeping with the Python Way, due to having less smooth a transition, but yours is good... :D

sometimes you gotta modify the bait to set up the zinger! :D

Thank you one and all.

I finally found my meat is murder; tasty, tasty murder shirt (and the basis for my sig) in a drawer, and it still fits, so I'm going to wash it and wear it tomorrow (Oh God, please let it stay the same size once it's clean).

As for the rest, my mates probably won't be able to make it this week, so I'll just go with the 'immune system has phage-eating-cells' argument for logic, and the shirt and deer hide hat with a huge hotdog being seriously enjoyed (but only to the point of 'not-quite-disguised-homoeroticism,' my foe happens to be gay and I am not a gay basher) while I wave to him as I'm leaving my apartment.

If that fails, then next week I'll try the Lumberjack Singing (for Lumberjacks are truly the greatest of men, and the most glorious) with my pals, and tape it so that you can all see it on YouTube. That's if the camera will work.

After that, I follow Greed and Death's proposal to the letter, and if that fails, I ask NASA to borrow the chicken cannon.

Wish me luck. King Arthur rides to War! And if necessary, to recruit other noble knights in my quest. My foe will feel my wrath (What's he gonna do, bleed on me?).

Thank you one and all.

I finally found my meat is murder; tasty, tasty murder shirt (and the basis for my sig) in a drawer, and it still fits, so I'm going to wash it and wear it tomorrow (Oh God, please let it stay the same size once it's clean).

As for the rest, my mates probably won't be able to make it this week, so I'll just go with the 'immune system has phage-eating-cells' argument for logic, and the shirt and deer hide hat with a huge hotdog being seriously enjoyed (but only to the point of 'not-quite-disguised-homoeroticism,' my foe happens to be gay and I am not a gay basher) while I wave to him as I'm leaving my apartment.

If that fails, then next week I'll try the Lumberjack Singing (for Lumberjacks are truly the greatest of men, and the most glorious) with my pals, and tape it so that you can all see it on YouTube. That's if the camera will work.

After that, I follow Greed and Death's proposal to the letter, and if that fails, I ask NASA to borrow the chicken cannon.

Wish me luck. King Arthur rides to War! And if necessary, to recruit other noble knights in my quest. My foe will feel my wrath (What's he gonna do, bleed on me?).

to keep it from shrinking hang it up to dry.

and which of mine are you following ? the one with the gun or the won where you get the city to issue you permits instead of them.

Make sure that you're never eating plant products when he sees you and begin counter lecturing on "plant rights".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov5Jgw_Nwx4

If that fails, then next week I'll try the Lumberjack Singing (for Lumberjacks are truly the greatest of men, and the most glorious) with my pals, and tape it so that you can all see it on YouTube. That's if the camera will work.

Oh gods...

Could it be...

I MAY END UP CREATING A MEME! HOOOOOOOORRRRRAAAAAAAAAY!!!

Okay, while I don't hate all vegans or vegetarians, I do have to say that the ones that seem to demonstrating near my apartment every week are getting damn annoying. I've even started deliberately eating meat products when I'm walking by (mostly just a few pieces of Beef Jerky, a truly great food) to get them off my case. Unfortunately, I've now got the one that shows up every Wednesday on my case about the nutritional completeness of veganism.

Now, I'm not a meat-a-tarian. I do eat my veggies. Often grilled right there with my meat portion for easy cooking. But the human jaw has canines and incisors that are evolved from a meat-containing diet. My heckler seems to ignore this, and I don't want to go all out with my leather jacket, deer hide hat (from a buck my dad shot when I was a kid) just to piss him off. However, I checked and he's not doing anything that I could get him cited for, so what do I say to him next time he's around to convince him that the argument won't be won with me?
I'm all for live and let live, but it's time you tell your special friend to mind his or her own business and get out of your face.

get 10+ friends
Get 50 pounds of raw meat. Be sure one has Concealed carry permit and has Fire Arm.
Set up Decoy Barbecue cook a few burgers. get a good vantage point such as a roof or wooded area throw Raw Meat on to protesters. Let protesters see/follow you back to Barbecue. When protesters arrive in mass have friend with Hand gun fire into Air a few times.

Enjoy your interactions with armed police.

After that, I follow Greed and Death's proposal to the letter, and if that fails, I ask NASA to borrow the chicken cannon.

and don't forget to decide on whether or not to defrost the chicken first. :tongue:

I'd say you would be well advised to offer them a nice, cold beer. Preferably a craft brewed, unpasteurized beer. As they consume, remind them that those little "Yeastie Boys" that make beer so wonderfully alcoholic are actually complex animal cells. Ask them to delineate what makes cows and pigs so magically different from these tiny, single celled organisms, especially given that they both share roughly 95% of their genetic material--if not more.

And remind them, that, as they digest the Yeasties, the Yeastie Beasties are alive. :)

Brilliant!

A bacon sandwich to a vegan is like a cross to a vampire. Always carry one with you.

No, no, no!

If you really want to piss EVERYONE off, eat the following meal:

A lobster dripping with melted butter, along with some pork, sharkfin, and mushroom soup--don't forget the garlic and onions in the soup!--and a steak(beef, of course). Make sure that you drink at least two different kinds of wine--made by non-Jews, of course--with one having blood mixed in. Make sure to use the same fork/spoon for the whole meal.

Have some gelatin cake for dessert. Make sure you drink coffee mixed with brandy along with it.

order a steak everytime he talks to you about it.

No, no, no!

If you really want to piss EVERYONE off, eat the following meal:

A lobster dripping with melted butter, along with some pork, sharkfin, and mushroom soup--don't forget the garlic and onions in the soup!--and a steak(beef, of course). Make sure that you drink at least two different kinds of wine--made by non-Jews, of course--with one having blood mixed in. Make sure to use the same fork/spoon for the whole meal.

Have some gelatin cake for dessert. Make sure you drink coffee mixed with brandy along with it.

Didn't piss off atheists or nihilists.

FAIL! :D

Didn't piss off atheists or nihilists.

FAIL! :D

Say grace before the meal. I have nothing for the nihilists tho.

Enjoy your interactions with armed police.

you will find they love any chance they can get to stick it to the hippies. Also depends on area I wouldn't pull this in San Francisco. But here in Texas I might get a ticket for not shooting the hippies.

Didn't piss off atheists or nihilists.

FAIL! :D

Say grace before the meal. I have nothing for the nihilists tho.

Say a prayer to one Deity or another for the nihilists to make them care about the world and life and such.

Say grace before the meal. I have nothing for the nihilists tho.

What about agnostics? Huh? HUH? :D

What about agnostics? Huh? HUH? :D

I don't know.

I don't know.

Neither do they, but at least they ADMIT it! :D

Make it a Steak of Infinite Knowledge. (+2 permanent bonus to Intelligence!)

I'm pretty sure that as long as my friend has a permit for his gun, the police won't mind a bit. Better than most of what they have to deal with. Besides, the actual ordinances allow a man to shoot for sport if certain conditions have been met, so we could set it up that he's merely next door and just happened to pop off a few at a practice target while the other shit was going down.

Okay, while I don't hate all vegans or vegetarians, I do have to say that the ones that seem to demonstrating near my apartment every week are getting damn annoying.
What are they protesting about?

Why is their protest annoying?

I've even started deliberately eating meat products when I'm walking by (mostly just a few pieces of Beef Jerky, a truly great food) to get them off my case.
Why on Earth would you think this would be in any way effective?

Neither do they, but at least they ADMIT it! :D

Hey, I admitted I didn't know. I guess that make me an agnostic.:tongue:

Say that your eating practices are a private affair and then ask him if he has ever heard of L Ron Hubbard because you just happen to have a few life changing pamphlets up in your room.

Hey, I admitted I didn't know. I guess that make me an agnostic.:tongue:

I don't kn...

Wait.

Yes I do!

Whew! Thought I was gonna turn into an agnostic! I don't know what THAT would be l...

Oh crap!

Wait, I was an agnostic to begin with. So I don't know why I got so worked up.

And now I'm a triple agnostic.

Okay, while I don't hate all vegans or vegetarians, I do have to say that the ones that seem to demonstrating near my apartment every week are getting damn annoying. I've even started deliberately eating meat products when I'm walking by (mostly just a few pieces of Beef Jerky, a truly great food) to get them off my case. Unfortunately, I've now got the one that shows up every Wednesday on my case about the nutritional completeness of veganism.

Now, I'm not a meat-a-tarian. I do eat my veggies. Often grilled right there with my meat portion for easy cooking. But the human jaw has canines and incisors that are evolved from a meat-containing diet. My heckler seems to ignore this, and I don't want to go all out with my leather jacket, deer hide hat (from a buck my dad shot when I was a kid) just to piss him off. However, I checked and he's not doing anything that I could get him cited for, so what do I say to him next time he's around to convince him that the argument won't be won with me?

http://theworstpageintheuniverse.com/images/animal_shirt2.jpg

^Wear this.

What are they protesting about?

Why is their protest annoying?

It's just them demonstrating to recruit more to the cause. It's annoying because tomorrow, like every Wednesday, this one dude will be there to talk about the indisputable wholeness of veganism, the fact that it is more natural for the human body (to which I always think about the omnivorous diet optimized by the human jaw structure), animal cruelty (I have literally thought that I would take serious pleasure in visiting a butcher shop just to prove that murder can be tasty), and the carcinogenic risk (cook anything long enough, it gets carcinogenic).

Anyways, I'm gonna go out tomorrow on the offensive, and after that, God be with me, as I try to find room for all of his creatures right next to the potatoes and gravy.

I thought this said "The Virgins are Everywhere"...

However, that being said, instead of having public sex the answer is simply to eat an always fresh, never frozen Baconator in front of them.

Why on Earth would you think this would be in any way effective?

It may have been done to be effective, it may have been done just to have some fun.

http://theworstpageintheuniverse.com/images/animal_shirt2.jpg

^Wear this.
That shirt makes no sense to me. Why are you eating three times what you would normally eat and how is it supposed to hurt my feelings. I hate animals thats why I don't want them in my mouth.

You need to walk by, eating one of these:

http://mrbaconpants.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/baconator.jpg

That, or order a 4 Seasons sub from Subway. For those that don't know what that is, it is a Subway Club, with either Tuna or Seafood & Crab (so it has beef, pork, fowl, and seafood).

I just the half of a delicious bacon cheeseburger that I had saved from last night at the pub. It was exquisite.

That shirt makes no sense to me. Why are you eating three times what you would normally eat and how is it supposed to hurt my feelings. I hate animals thats why I don't want them in my mouth.

A significant number of vegetarians/vegans ascribe to their posititions due to the belief that killing and eating animals is morally wrong. They don't like killing the animals, "meat is murder", etc.

This shirt makes the claim that for every animal the veg does not eat, the speaker will eat the veg's portion, as well as an additional two. Essentially, by abstaining from meat the veg will be causing more animals to die than otherwise.

Find a California Condor's nest and have some nice eggs in the morning.

Yummy tasty... eagle burgers.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/35/118398511_b84d90796f.jpg?v=0

That's not a head wound creation device, its a mineral suppliment delivery system.

lots of animals are missing alot of mineral suppliments.

In that case, I recently bought a long-range injection device designed to precisely deliver a 5.56mm copper-jacketed lead supplement pellet from hundreds of meters away at high velocity ;)

Remember, plants aren't food. Plants are eaten BY food.

A significant number of vegetarians/vegans ascribe to their posititions due to the belief that killing and eating animals is morally wrong. They don't like killing the animals, "meat is murder", etc.

This shirt makes the claim that for every animal the veg does not eat, the speaker will eat the veg's portion, as well as an additional two. Essentially, by abstaining from meat the veg will be causing more animals to die than otherwise.

but that is rediculous because you'll go broke buying all the meat, you'll become fat for overeating, and you'll die quicker thus you will have less time on earth to consume meat, plus many veggies dont eat meat because of health reasons alone. So this threat just falls apart in several places. I'm not properly horrified at the idea of you eating three toucans everyday.

Find a California Condor's nest and have some nice eggs in the morning.

Big difference. California Condors are endangered, beef cattle, pigs, sheep, chickens, turkeys and deer are not.

Big difference. California Condors are endangered, beef cattle, pigs, sheep, chickens, turkeys and deer are not.Not the rare auroch, tasty tasty steak on them.

Not the rare auroch, tasty tasty steak on them.

Actual Aurochs are extinct. Probably from too many being eaten.

Actual Aurochs are extinct. Probably from too many being eaten.

Or used in gladitorial games by the Romans.

I just the half of a delicious bacon cheeseburger that I had saved from last night at the pub. It was exquisite.

Considering that it was one you saved from last night (really wtf?), is it any surprise that you are leaving words out of your sentences?

Okay, while I don't hate all vegans or vegetarians, I do have to say that the ones that seem to demonstrating near my apartment every week are getting damn annoying. I've even started deliberately eating meat products when I'm walking by (mostly just a few pieces of Beef Jerky, a truly great food) to get them off my case. Unfortunately, I've now got the one that shows up every Wednesday on my case about the nutritional completeness of veganism.

Now, I'm not a meat-a-tarian. I do eat my veggies. Often grilled right there with my meat portion for easy cooking. But the human jaw has canines and incisors that are evolved from a meat-containing diet. My heckler seems to ignore this, and I don't want to go all out with my leather jacket, deer hide hat (from a buck my dad shot when I was a kid) just to piss him off. However, I checked and he's not doing anything that I could get him cited for, so what do I say to him next time he's around to convince him that the argument won't be won with me?

Last time a vegan bothered me about my dietary practices, I call them vegefiles and tell them that plants are alive and have feelings too.

I also make very cruel jokes at the expense of animals. For instance, an old friend of mine started dating this girl (whom he didn't know was insane at the time) who became a vegan. Whenever I was around her at the bar I frequented, I'd order chicken wings and devour them, all while commenting on how delicious these stupid animals were.

but that is rediculous because you'll go broke buying all the meat, you'll become fat for overeating, and you'll die quicker thus you will have less time on earth to consume meat, plus many veggies dont eat meat because of health reasons alone. So this threat just falls apart in several places. I'm not properly horrified at the idea of you eating three toucans everyday.

...Do you actually think the shirt is designed so that the vegs will take it to heart?

And I never said that there weren't a lot of vegs who don't eat meat for health reasons, just that a lot of them don't for moral reasons.

I also make very cruel jokes at the expense of animals. For instance, an old friend of mine started dating this girl (whom he didn't know was insane at the time) who became a vegan. Whenever I was around her at the bar I frequented, I'd order chicken wings and devour them, all while commenting on how delicious these stupid animals were.

Maybe she wasn't insane at the time, maybe she went insane after watching you eat chicken wings all the time. (jks)

You need to walk by, eating one of these:

http://mrbaconpants.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/baconator.jpg

That, or order a 4 Seasons sub from Subway. For those that don't know what that is, it is a Subway Club, with either Tuna or Seafood & Crab (so it has beef, pork, fowl, and seafood).

Oh, bloody hell, never order anything like that! The beef at Wendy's is the poorest cuts possible, and the bacon is always limp.

Always.

I know because I used to work at one.

...Do you actually think the shirt is designed so that the vegs will take it to heart?

And I never said that there weren't a lot of vegs who don't eat meat for health reasons, just that a lot of them don't for moral reasons.

I never said that you said that there are never any vegetarians...blah blah blah
I just said your joke isn't funny cuz it makes no sense.

I thought this said "The Virgins are Everywhere"...

However, that being said, instead of having public sex the answer is simply to eat an always fresh, never frozen Baconator in front of them.

Fresh my ass. It's not exactly frozen, but it's not exactly fresh either. It's usually in the fridge for a day at the Wendy's before it gets used, and I dunno how long it spent being refridgerated before that.

To be honest, aside from any annoyance about people being righteous in your face, there is, in my mind, no rational or moral reason to eat meat.

We breed these lumps of meat in terrible conditions, we kill them in even worse.

It's not necessary.

To have an entire industry devoted to the mass slaughter of animals, simple convenience, regardless of what we're often actually eating, everything about it is morally wrong.

Fishing is just as bad, we've raped the seas, cutting off fins and dumping live bodies overboard, simply sweeping through vast tracts of ocean dredging up canned meat.

Oy.

To be honest, aside from any annoyance about people being righteous in your face, there is, in my mind, no rational or moral reason to eat meat.

We breed these lumps of meat in terrible conditions, we kill them in even worse.

It's not necessary.

To have an entire industry devoted to the mass slaughter of animals, simple convenience, regardless of what we're often actually eating, everything about it is morally wrong.

Fishing is just as bad, we've raped the seas, cutting off fins and dumping live bodies overboard, simply sweeping through vast tracts of ocean dredging up canned meat.

Oy.
Vat meat. In vitro grown meat, never actually part of a living animal, tastes good in so many varieties!

Coming soon to an Earth near you!

People should watch this video, the cinematography is simply stunning and although the guy is a bit of a poser, the story is just... just depressing.

Sharkwater (http://www.sharkwater.com/new_videos/US%20Trailer%20Web%20Finals/US%20Trailer%20w%20Blood-US%20Trailer%20HD%20Blood%20WEb%20TEXT-MPEG-4%20800Kb.mp4)

Mostly, it makes you realise how we treat animals, one can say 'well shark finning is for Asia' but cow-slaughter is just as pointless, just as despicable really.

Anyway...

What you eat is a VERY personal thing. I don't think certain vegos should take their ideological vegetarianism into the streets, and argue with people at large about why they eat what they eat.

It's been ages since I went to a restaurant and couldn't find a good vegetarian option in the menu. I'm relaxed and comfortable about the whole issue. I can eat what I like, feel righteous about reducing cruelty and ecological impact, and no-one gets in my face about how I'm not supporting the ranchers or any such shit.

Really, it's done already. Most people eat far less meat than they used to ... it's balanced out in total because fewer people are too poor to afford meat. I see no need to press the issue on behalf of the captive animals -- the point has been made, and the vast majority of people have taken it on board and done all the compromising they're going to do, of their personal pleasure for a principle of reduced harm. And a decent proportion of consumers are taking into account the living conditions of their food animals ... I say the work is done, and the future is very low-meat per person and it's only going to get better with (a)low-on-the-food chain safety from contaminants, (b)cruelty concerns, (c)personal health and satisfaction (ie eating lots without getting fat), and (d)price (as grazing and slaughtering becomes increasingly regulated.)

Protesting about meat-eating is completely stupid. The Hari Krishnas had this right: give away the tasty vegan food. If people don't like it and can't find any benefit in eating it ... whatever, they can eat fried meat out of the garbage bins down the road. (I don't of course endorse everything about Hare Krishnas, but the giving away good food thing I'm totally For.)

Oh, bloody hell, never order anything like that! The beef at Wendy's is the poorest cuts possible, and the bacon is always limp.

Always.

I know because I used to work at one.

BUT I CAN'T HELP IT! IT TASTES SO GOOD! I FEEL SO DIRTY NOW! http://smileydatabase.com/s/346.gif


:p

This thread makes me want a burger, but I won't be able to get one for a while

People should watch this video, the cinematography is simply stunning and although the guy is a bit of a poser, the story is just... just depressing.

Sharkwater (http://www.sharkwater.com/new_videos/US%20Trailer%20Web%20Finals/US%20Trailer%20w%20Blood-US%20Trailer%20HD%20Blood%20WEb%20TEXT-MPEG-4%20800Kb.mp4)

Mostly, it makes you realise how we treat animals, one can say 'well shark finning is for Asia' but cow-slaughter is just as pointless, just as despicable really.

Anyway...

Finning sharks is a scumbag move, because the shark gets dumped over the side while they're still alive. The problem is they can no longer hunt, and end up dying a horrible death.

Comparing that to slaughtering cows is wrong, however. If we cut off the cow's legs and left its body in a field to die slowly, then your comparison would be accurate. Cow slaughter, from what I've read, is quick when done right (the cow is stunned beforehand, so it feels nothing).

This thread makes me want a burger, but I won't be able to get one for a while

Heh, how often can Ifreann say that he can not has a cheezburger? :p

Also, I had a Baconator once from my local Wendy's. It was almost entirely unlike the picture of it, what with its soggy pieces of bacon, somewhat limp patties and what looked like artificial cheese.

I'd rather go to Carl's Jr., tyvm.

Heh, how often can Ifreann say that he can not has a cheezburger? :p
:(

Also, I had a Baconator once from my local Wendy's. It was almost entirely unlike the picture of it, what with its soggy pieces of bacon, somewhat limp patties and what looked like artificial cheese.

I'd rather go to Carl's Jr., tyvm.

Burgers and things from big fast food chains appear as they are advertised once in a blue moon, aside from when the picture was taken for the advertisement.

:(


Burgers and things from big fast food chains appear as they are advertised once in a blue moon, aside from when the picture was taken for the advertisement.

:fluffle:

I swear, the last few times that I've gone to Carl's Jr., the food looks like it's actually been prepared the way they do it on the commercials, and it's been hot and tasty to the point where it tastes pretty much like the best damn fast food I've had in a long time.

:fluffle:

I swear, the last few times that I've gone to Carl's Jr., the food looks like it's actually been prepared the way they do it on the commercials, and it's been hot and tasty to the point where it tastes pretty much like the best damn fast food I've had in a long time.

There's a place on campus that makes very nice burgers. Their other stuff is good too, but I could stuff those 1/4 pounders down my gob all day long.

I swear, the last few times that I've gone to Carl's Jr., the food looks like it's actually been prepared the way they do it on the commercials, and it's been hot and tasty to the point where it tastes pretty much like the best damn fast food I've had in a long time.

It doesn't count when you are drunk. Sure they may taste good after drinking for 7 hours and you think it is the best food you have eaten ever but go there later for the exact same item and you end up thinking why did I think this was a good burger?

It doesn't count when you are drunk. Sure they may taste good after drinking for 7 hours and you think it is the best food you have eaten ever but go there later for the exact same item and you end up thinking why did I think this was a good burger?

Oh yeah. I've had some damn good burgers from burger king when drunk. When I'm sober.....eh, not so good.

Considering that it was one you saved from last night (really wtf?), is it any surprise that you are leaving words out of your sentences?

The place is a beer pub. It's called 99 bottles, and they literally have that many kinds of beer. Beer is very filling. Knowing this, and since they serve large burgers, they cut all their burgers in half. Usually I'll have one there but be too full to eat both halves, so I'll get a box, take it home and eat it the next day. They taste as good sober as they do after beverages.

I actually leave words out of sentences more when sober than when drunk, because I think faster than I type by quite a bit. When I'm drunk, this is not the case, but my motor coordination suffers significantly, leading to letters in the wrong order, extra letters, letters left out and stuff like that.

A meatball gun would be inefficient, for the amount of meat delivered per shot. Why not use a M.O.A.M.P.*?





M.O.A.M.P. = Mother Of All Meat Pies

Interesting. *heads to the drawing board*

Interesting. *heads to the drawing board*

Why not just meat pies - or do they not have them in the US?

Why not just meat pies - or do they not have them in the US?

They're not common.

you think being drunk makes the food taste good try being stoned. get those hippies stoned as hell and offer them a nice juicy burger. See how long being a vegan last.

They're not common.

You are probably better off without them.

The place is a beer pub. It's called 99 bottles, and they literally have that many kinds of beer. Beer is very filling. Knowing this, and since they serve large burgers, they cut all their burgers in half. Usually I'll have one there but be too full to eat both halves, so I'll get a box, take it home and eat it the next day. They taste as good sober as they do after beverages.

I actually leave words out of sentences more when sober than when drunk, because I think faster than I type by quite a bit. When I'm drunk, this is not the case, but my motor coordination suffers significantly, leading to letters in the wrong order, extra letters, letters left out and stuff like that.

Oh, ok a pub burger, I thought you may have been talking about something from Burger King or similar. Yes well a pub burger is different.

You are probably better off without them.

My mom used to make a puerto rican dish called 'pastelijos' which I'd describe as a kind of meat pie. I used to love em, but they were a lot of work.

It's just them demonstrating to recruit more to the cause.
So it's the demonstration you object to?

Tough luck kiddo, you live in a country which (most of the time) cares about free speech.

I have literally thought that I would take serious pleasure in visiting a butcher shop just to prove that murder can be tasty
Nobody is disputing that eating meat is pleasurable; that's not the issue here.

What is the issue is whether the pleasure we get from consuming animal flesh is justified and morally permissible. Many terrible things give pleasure (rape is the obvious example), so we shouldn't be asking if an action gives us pleasure or not, but whether that pleasure is gained through immoral means.

So it's the demonstration you object to?

Tough luck kiddo, you live in a country which (most of the time, so long as it's not during a political convention, press conference, or any other place where they can be shunted aside and made to seem inconsequential or irrational) cares about free speech.

Fixed, sadly.

Oh yeah. I've had some damn good burgers from burger king when drunk. When I'm sober.....eh, not so good.

The Simpson's whopper comes to mind (from BK). I feel sick just thinking about it now that I have had one when sober.

Fixed, sadly.
Quite.

It's the same over this side of the Pond.

It doesn't count when you are drunk. Sure they may taste good after drinking for 7 hours and you think it is the best food you have eaten ever but go there later for the exact same item and you end up thinking why did I think this was a good burger?

Interestingly enough, I don't drink, so unless the cortisone has made my taste buds perk up a bit, nuh uh, it's just good food. :D

Actual Aurochs are extinct. Probably from too many being eaten.Not Heck Cattle.:tongue:

So it's the demonstration you object to?

Tough luck kiddo, you live in a country which (most of the time) cares about free speech.

I don't hate their demonstrations. It was the dude with a French sounding name that had been bothering me that was my problem.

Nobody is disputing that eating meat is pleasurable; that's not the issue here.

What is the issue is whether the pleasure we get from consuming animal flesh is justified and morally permissible. Many terrible things give pleasure (rape is the obvious example), so we shouldn't be asking if an action gives us pleasure or not, but whether that pleasure is gained through immoral means.

My point was that the dude had been so annoying, that I was at the point of going to a local slaughterhouse and asking if I could kill a few cows just to prove to myself that killing an animal, in and of itself, isn't that bad, especially if it's an animal destined to show up on my plate.

In essence, I was trying to tell you that I know the 'meat tastes good' topic is not the issue, and I was not trying to make it the issue. The issue is the morality of the animal's death, and for me, it's not at all immoral to go out and kill an animal to feed oneself. The lions feel that way, the wolves feel that way, the bears feel that way, the tigers feel that way, as do jackals, foxes, hyenas, leopards, jaguars, and dingos. After going hunting with friends in Pennsylvania, I'm tempted to take it up myself.

Felt that I should get this out.

After wearing a leather jacket, deerskin hat, 'Meat is Murder; Tasty, Tasty Murder' shirt, and eating a big hot dog, I think I finally convinced French-sounding-name-guy to leave me alone, since I'll not be convinced of the immorality of eating meat. I used other arguments, but he finally Gave UP!!

Thanks to to everybody here.

I could've sworn that this thread was older than one day...

So... did he curse at you under his breath or just leave you the hell alone?

Like a cross to a vampire, just walk down the sidewalk holding a Bic disposable razor in front of you and they will recoil and let you pass.

Felt that I should get this out.

After wearing a leather jacket, deerskin hat, 'Meat is Murder; Tasty, Tasty Murder' shirt, and eating a big hot dog, I think I finally convinced French-sounding-name-guy to leave me alone, since I'll not be convinced of the immorality of eating meat. I used other arguments, but he finally Gave UP!!

Thanks to to everybody here.

Aww, man, I was hoping the Lumberjack Song would pop up! :(

Interesting. *heads to the drawing board*

Need help with any ballistics calculations?

Aww, man, I was hoping the Lumberjack Song would pop up! :(

It just might. At this point, I'm in the mood for a 'counter-demonstration.'

I The issue is the morality of the animal's death, and for me, it's not at all immoral to go out and kill an animal to feed oneself. The lions feel that way, the wolves feel that way, the bears feel that way, the tigers feel that way, as do jackals, foxes, hyenas, leopards, jaguars, and dingos. After going hunting with friends in Pennsylvania, I'm tempted to take it up myself.

Jackals, dingos and hyenas eat their young. I'm not sure that taking their behavior as the basis for your own morals is the greatest of ideas.

It just might. At this point, I'm in the mood for a 'counter-demonstration.'

Yaaaaay!

Nobody is disputing that eating meat is pleasurable; that's not the issue here.

What is the issue is whether the pleasure we get from consuming animal flesh is justified and morally permissible. Many terrible things give pleasure (rape is the obvious example), so we shouldn't be asking if an action gives us pleasure or not, but whether that pleasure is gained through immoral means.

Actually rape is not about pleasure. Rape is about power and control.

I AM A MEATATARIAN

i love that commmercial

How to deal with Vegans.
1. buy a cow
2. buy a Katana
3. Learn some hardcore gymnastics
4. Pretend you're making peace with the Vegans by sending out the cow to greet them.
5. Jump off from a high place, onto the back of the cow as it enters the crowd.
6. Draw your katana and slice the throat of the beast.

Problem solved, clearly beholding the real world will be too much for their delicate psyche.

ps you get bonus point if you do this with a bat'leh rather then a katana.
pss you get more points if you dress up like a klingon and have a klingon battlecry before killing.

How to deal with Vegans.
1. buy a cow
2. buy a Katana
3. Learn some hardcore gymnastics
4. Pretend you're making peace with the Vegans by sending out the cow to greet them.
5. Jump off from a high place, onto the back of the cow as it enters the crowd.
6. Draw your katana and slice the throat of the beast.

Problem solved, clearly beholding the real world will be too much for their delicate psyche.

ps you get bonus point if you do this with a bat'leh rather then a katana.
pss you get more points if you dress up like a klingon and have a klingon battlecry before killing.

Of course, all of this is easily trumped by simply standing among them, drinking a large glass of blood.

And, if they can still work up the stomach to talk to you, you can easily fend off their entreaties to abstain from meat products, by telling them you'll GLADLY become a vegan, if they can point out which plants you can get still-warm blood from.

My point was that the dude had been so annoying, that I was at the point of going to a local slaughterhouse and asking if I could kill a few cows just to prove to myself that killing an animal, in and of itself, isn't that bad, especially if it's an animal destined to show up on my plate.
I don't see how this would prove anything beyond showing it is possible to kill a nonhuman animal in a slaughterhouse. It certainly shows nothing about the immorality (or lack of) of killing nonhuman animals for food.

The issue is the morality of the animal's death...
Most certainly, along with the morality and sustainability of rearing, slaughtering and eating nonhuman animals on an industrial scale.

...and for me, it's not at all immoral to go out and kill an animal to feed oneself. The lions feel that way, the wolves feel that way, the bears feel that way, the tigers feel that way, as do jackals, foxes, hyenas, leopards, jaguars, and dingos.
As DrunkenDove has already rightly pointed out, taking one's moral guidance from the behaviour of nonhuman animals is a dodgy road to travel down. Moreover, we are quite different from the lion, wolf or jackal: we can choose not to eat meat and survive adequately. We are not genetically nor physiologically determined to eat meat, having both the biological and psychological capabilities to refrain from it.



How to deal with Vegans...
Why do you feel the need to 'deal' with vegans (or vegetarians) in the first place?

What so offends you (and the others in this thread who've spoken about their desire to use action against non-meat eaters) about someone refraining from doing something which affects you in now way that you wish to go out and deliberately offend them?

Do you desire to slaughter cattle in front of Hindus? Do you yearn to drink pints of blood in front of those who follow Kosher eating rules? Can you hardly prevent yourself from scoffing Kiwi fruit in front of those who refrain from eating non-seasonal fruit?

I see no need to deliberately offend vegans merely for being vegans.



Actually rape is not about pleasure. Rape is about power and control.
No matter; pleasure is involved at some level.

My point being, whether an action is pleasurable or not has no bearing on its moral content.

I never said that you said that there are never any vegetarians...blah blah blah
I just said your joke isn't funny cuz it makes no sense.

Of course not, because you're overthinking it. The shirt is essentially meant to convey, "I'm being an asshole and I'm not interested in what you have to preach". The statement only works only works on a surface level, and it's only meant to work on that surface level.

If you're trying to break it, then it will fall apart quickly.

Why do you feel the need to 'deal' with vegans (or vegetarians) in the first place?

What so offends you (and the others in this thread who've spoken about their desire to use action against non-meat eaters) about someone refraining from doing something which affects you in now way that you wish to go out and deliberately offend them?

Do you desire to slaughter cattle in front of Hindus? Do you yearn to drink pints of blood in front of those who follow Kosher eating rules? Can you hardly prevent yourself from scoffing Kiwi fruit in front of those who refrain from eating non-seasonal fruit?

I see no need to deliberately offend vegans merely for being vegans.

I'm not seeing that at all. From the context of the OP, they're not looking to offend the Vegans for being Vegans but for being essentially the Fundie Evangelists of the nutritional world. Some people just get pissed off at being preached about how "Meat is Murder" and all that.

Jonathan Swift had a clever idea for dealing with the populations of certain cultures and sub-cultures.

http://www.uoregon.edu/~rbear/modest.html

A simple modification of this effective plan and the problem of evangelical vegans is solved. Simply substitute the word vegan or vegans for any word in the proposal that means child or children. Thus are they put out of our misery.

I prefer mine with fava beans and a nice chianti.

I'm not seeing that at all. From the context of the OP, they're not looking to offend the Vegans for being Vegans but for being essentially the Fundie Evangelists of the nutritional world. Some people just get pissed off at being preached about how "Meat is Murder" and all that.
And how many are preached at?

The vast, vast majority of vegans and vegetarians never 'preach' at all.

Jonathan Swift had a clever idea for dealing with the populations of certain cultures and sub-cultures.

http://www.uoregon.edu/~rbear/modest.html

A simple modification of this effective plan and the problem of evangelical vegans is solved. Simply substitute the word vegan or vegans for any word in the proposal that means child or children. Thus are they put out of our misery.

I prefer mine with fava beans and a nice chianti.

WTF???

Now I'm all in favour fo trying to allievate the problem of poverty amongst children but WTF?

WTF???

Now I'm all in favour fo trying to allievate the problem of poverty amongst children but WTF?

It's not Soylent Green - It's Soylent Happy Meal.

Or Jr. Green. Or whatever. They can employ a nation to come up with the name.


>.>

And how many are preached at?

The vast, vast majority of vegans and vegetarians never 'preach' at all.

A loud minority? Yeah, same with the Religious Right.

...Do you see what I'm getting at?