NationStates Jolt Archive

Mine: Matthew, 19:12.

Sorry Christians, that is just the way the ball bounces--or does not.

Matthew 15:11

Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

The Miracle of the loaves and fishes:
And Jesus said to the crowd, "With this loaf of bread I will make a multitude of loaves. And with these fish I will make a multitude of fishes!"
And someone from the back yelled, "Sit down Jesus! You're pissed!"

CURSE YOU NOT QUOTING YER VERSES!

It's a tie between Matthew 7:3...
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

And John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Jesus preaching of tolerance and peace, things that many modern churches can't seem to get. :mad:

Revelation 6:1-2. Not so much for its Biblical importance, but because it's the beginning of a great Johnny Cash album:
1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

2 And I saw, and behold a white horse...

Revelation 22:12 "And, behold, I come quickly..."

Jesus preaching of tolerance and peace, things that many modern churches can't seem to get. :mad:

His downfall came when his followers finally convinced him he was not only the son of God, but God himself; though later, while carrying the cross, he repented this ("Not as I will, but as you (God) will." -Matthew, 26: 39).

He was very benign for his time; still, he thought his religion was superior to competing faiths.

"Go nowhere among gentiles[...]"
-Matthew, 10: 5.

"Salvation is from the Jews."
-John, 4: 22.

Mine: Matthew, 19:12.

Sorry Christians, that is just the way the ball bounces--or does not.
12For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage[c]because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."
How convient you forget Mat 19: 3-11
3Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?"

4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'[a] 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'[b]? 6So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

7"Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?"

8Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."

10The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry."

11Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given.
Matthew 15:1111What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' "


I like Mat 15: 17-20 a little more specific and leaves less to misinterpretation.
17"Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man 'unclean.' 19For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.' "
too bad most evangelicals don't seem to know that passage.

I like Mat 15: 17-20 a little more specific and leaves less to misinterpretation.

too bad most evangelicals don't seem to know that passage.

Not nearly as quotable, plus you can't use it to convince poor impressionable Christians that Jesus was all about oral.

Not nearly as quotable, plus you can't use it to convince poor impressionable Christians that Jesus was all about oral.

ahem...
he was more concerned about what is coming out, not going in. so it's better to swallow than spit. ;)

if it goes in, then it enters the stomach and eventually leaves.
but if it comes out then it comes from the heart and thus it's only sexaully immoral if you spit and don't swallow.

How convient [sic] you forget Mat 19: 3-11

Christ still endorses castration.

Christ still endorses castration.

never said he did or didn't.

I like that part in Exodus where Dubya is lit on fire and burns eternally without being consumed.

Yes, I know that Exodus is old testament not new testament.

Actually, I have two, both of which work so well together.

"and Judas went out and hanged himself."

"go thou, and do likewise."

31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

There.

Jesus said onto Judas "you will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me." "Step away from the others and I shall tell you the mysteries of the kingdom,'' Jesus says to Judas. "Look, you have been told everything. Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars surrounding it. The star that leads the way is your star.''
From the gospel of Judas.

I really like John 4:16.

"And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him."

The bold passage I chose for my baptism.

I really like John 4:16.

"And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him."

The bold passage I chose for my baptism.
that is a good one.

that is a good one.
Thanks!

I try to live by it as good as I can. ;)

26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Now, if we look at the days of Lot, what do we see

5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.

11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

Pretty interesting stuff. Of course, there are plenty of other verses in the New Testament that I enjoy.

Here's some:

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me.
John 14:6, KJV

Here, Jesus specifically states that Christianity is the exclusive route to salvation.

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things in earth and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God.
2 Philippians 2:9-11, KJV

Here it is shown that all people, living and dead, including everyone currently alive today, will, at the end, bow to Jesus and recognize Him as the one true Lord.

Austin 3:16

I just whooped your ass!

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

Jesus preaching of tolerance and peace, things that many modern churches can't seem to get. :mad:

True enough. I really prefer the KJV though. Less accessible, maybe. More elegant, unquestionably.

Why does it have to be New? My favorite passage is Job 1:7
And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
But, if I must limit myself, then John 11:35.
Jesus wept
Short, simple, humanizing (because he weeps for a dead friend).

John 15:13 (KJV)

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Rufus, Act 5, Scene 4: "Knew him? ****** owes me 12 bucks!"

I didn't notice anyone else mentioning the "judge not..." one.

"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment that you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me take the speck out of your eye," when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."

-Matthew 7.1-5

Also, I like Matthew 25:40 "...Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Jesus was such a progressive we still haven't caught up to him as a society yet...

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

My favourite quote to turn to when I hear spouted the BS that it is a "religion of love".

I didn't notice anyone else mentioning the "judge not..." one.

Judge Not? On NSG? :p

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

My favourite quote to turn to when I hear spouted the BS that it is a "religion of love".

You'd be surprised at how many things are worthy of death. The key point is that we don't actually receive death, even though we deserve it, due to the never-failing mercy of God.
Sounds like a religion of love to me.

You'd be surprised at how many things are worthy of death.

Actually, I wouldn't. That religion is quite nauseating in its lust for blood and death, as it at its core is nothing but an apocalyptic death cult yearning for their "lamb of love" to come back, slaughter most everyone, unless they kneel before him and sate his own desire for emotional fellatio.

The key point is that we don't actually receive death, even though we deserve it, due to the never-failing mercy of God.
Sounds like a religion of love to me.

Sounds like delusions to the sane, sweetie.

The key point is that we don't actually receive death, even though we deserve it, due to the never-failing mercy of God.

And that just goes to show how mercy is an inferior virtue to justice.

If God forgives people who have sex with people of the same sex, He may be merciful... but as long as He condemns them in the first place, He is not just.

Christianity turns into dogma the ultimate injustice, that our lives should be spent obeying the arbitrary rules of the dictator of the universe, and that our afterlives will be determined by His whims. The fact that the arbitrary rules are so ridiculous as to render us all, according to them, horrendous sinners does not turn "God" into some wonderfully loving being just because He forgives some portion of us for the grievous crime of defying Him (and sentences the others to eternal torture and agony in Hell.)

Gen.9 :6

" Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. "

So true believers have to kill God, for so many murders He has done.

I really love this one.

I have quite a lot, my bible is literally marked all over with things I like.

I'll share just a few, out of 1st Corinthians

3:9 For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, you are God's building.

7:22, 23 For he who is called in the Lord while a slave is the Lords freedman. Likewise, he who is called while free, is Christ's slave. You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men.

10:31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.

15:33 Do not be decieved, for evil company corrupts good habits

15: 54b-55, 57 For it is written:
Death is swallowed up in victory
O death, where is your sting?
O Hades where is your victory?

Thanks be to God, who gives us the Victory through our Lord Christ Jesus.

John 20:24-25

But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.

The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the LORD. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
Even as a kid going to Sunday School, ol' Doubting Thomas seemed a rather sensible fellow. There's undoubtedly many beautiful passages in both the OT and the NT, but I suppose the one above is most meaningful to me.

EDIT: And I'm not trying to make some Christian-bashing point here, I'm not trying to show the 'truth' of the Bible (for just as many posters can cherry-pick rather violent passages from the Bible, as many, or more posters can cherry-pick peaceful, loving passages) I genuinely feel affinity with Thomas Didymus, and have had many a discussion with my old minister on the subject.

1 Corinthians 1:21

"For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe."

:)

John 20:24-25


Even as a kid going to Sunday School, ol' Doubting Thomas seemed a rather sensible fellow. There's undoubtedly many beautiful passages in both the OT and the NT, but I suppose the one above is most meaningful to me.

EDIT: And I'm not trying to make some Christian-bashing point here, I'm not trying to show the 'truth' of the Bible (for just as many posters can cherry-pick rather violent passages from the Bible, as many, or more posters can cherry-pick peaceful, loving passages) I genuinely feel affinity with Thomas Didymus, and have had many a discussion with my old minister on the subject.
That makes sense. And it's not as if after doubting Jesus, Thomas was sent to Hell, He just told him to be more faithful next time. He ended up all right in the end, anyway. (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14658b.htm) (Notice the prefix before "Thomas.")

You'd be surprised at how many things are worthy of death. The key point is that we don't actually receive death, even though we deserve it, due to the never-failing mercy of God.
Sounds like a religion of love to me.

Actually, I wouldn't. That religion is quite nauseating in its lust for blood and death, as it at its core is nothing but an apocalyptic death cult yearning for their "lamb of love" to come back, slaughter most everyone, unless they kneel before him and sate his own desire for emotional fellatio.

Sounds like delusions to the sane, sweetie.
Yes! They've finally met!

this is mine

And lo! a man was in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and this man was just and virtuous, and abode the comfort of Israel [and this man was just and dread-full, abiding the comfort of Israel]; and the Holy Ghost was in him.

26 And he had taken an answer of the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, but he saw first the Christ of the Lord.

27 And he came in Spirit into the temple. And when his father and mother led [in] the child Jesus to do after the custom of the law for him,

28 he took him into his arms, and blessed God, and said,

29 Lord, now thou lettest go thy servant after thy word in peace; [Lord, now thy leavest thy servant after thy word in peace;]

30 for mine eyes have seen thine health,

31 which thou hast made ready before the face of all peoples;

32 light to the showing of heathen men, and glory of thy people Israel.

33 And his father and his mother were wondering on [upon] these things, that were said of him.

34 And Simeon blessed them, and said to Mary, his mother, Lo! this is set into the falling down and into the rising again [into the falling and into the rising again] of many men in Israel, and into a token, to whom it shall be against-said.

35 And a sword shall pass through thine own soul, that the thoughts be showed of many hearts.

You'd be surprised at how many things are worthy of death. The key point is that we don't actually receive death, even though we deserve it, due to the never-failing mercy of God.
Sounds like a religion of love to me.

Why did you take the bait? Why, I ask you?