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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineusa/2008/sep/17/uselections2008.sarahpalin

Wikileaks, the online clearinghouse of classified information that has caught the Guantanamo Bay prison, Northern Rock, and a major Swiss bank in its crosshairs, has posted hacked data from Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin's private e-mail account.

The alleged hack was pulled off by "loosely affiliated" members of an anti-Scientology group, according to Wikileaks, which justified its move by citing Palin's reported use of yahoo.com to conduct official state business. (Aides to George Bush came under fire for similar e-mailing behaviour last year.)

The hack uncovered family photos and the addresses of Palin friends -- of questionable relevance to any public records violation, really -- as well as what looks like proof that Palin was indeed using personal e-mail for state business.

Sounds like the work of Anon/Legion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group))? I would love to see Anon do some damage to the Palin campaign by exposing the dirt on her. :)

i wonder how long it will take to find the hacker and charge him with massive crimes.

i took a quick look at the screen shots but i didnt see one to "our lord satan." maybe she uses a different account when she wants to check in on the soul she sold for this chance.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineusa/2008/sep/17/uselections2008.sarahpalin



Sounds like the work of Anon/Legion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group))? I would love to see Anon do some damage to the Palin campaign by exposing the dirt on her. :)
Looks like someone tried to find the dirt and discovered there was none.

i wonder how long it will take to find the hacker and charge him with massive crimes.

i took a quick look at the screen shots but i didnt see one to "our lord satan." maybe she uses a different account when she wants to check in on the soul she sold for this chance.

Most of the screenshots are here, http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_inbox_2008

If you can access them. Some are posted here as well.

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/The_Incident_Did_4Chan_Anon_Hack_Palin_s_Yahoo_Email

Anonymous?

Sorry I still think there a bunch of wannabes with way to much time on their hands.

(Damn I'm back to insulting hackers again ...despite being pseudo hacked)

i wonder how long it will take to find the hacker and charge him with massive crimes.

i took a quick look at the screen shots but i didnt see one to "our lord satan." maybe she uses a different account when she wants to check in on the soul she sold for this chance.

They'd have to hack her ebay account for that. I heard she tried to auction it for fair market value, but it ended up having to be sold for much, much less.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineusa/2008/sep/17/uselections2008.sarahpalin



Sounds like the work of Anon/Legion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group))? I would love to see Anon do some damage to the Palin campaign by exposing the dirt on her. :)
If there's dirt, let it be shown. But if there's dirt on Obama, let that be displayed for all to see, too.

There's plenty of room in politics for equal opportunity mudslinging.

Palin sounds to much like a Canadian to be the Vice President...

Anonymous? They'll go after her tooth and nail until someone shines a flashlight on the floor and distracts them...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineusa/2008/sep/17/uselections2008.sarahpalin



Sounds like the work of Anon/Legion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group))? I would love to see Anon do some damage to the Palin campaign by exposing the dirt on her. :)
It appears that there is no dirt, though. Other than using her personal email for some state business, which is hardly criminal.

Can we have Joe Biden, McCain and Obama's computers hacked as well just for fairness?

Newfags.

Palin sounds to much like a Canadian to be the Vice President...

What's wrong with Canadians?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/deadlineusa/2008/sep/17/uselections2008.sarahpalin



Sounds like the work of Anon/Legion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group))? I would love to see Anon do some damage to the Palin campaign by exposing the dirt on her. :)
Storing government emails on external non verified mail servers is fucking ridiculous and completely un-acceptable.

I am not a fan of anon but I am glad they exposed this flagrant stupidity

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/09/03.jpg

haha, check out the tabs

Image is too small.

It appears to be two /b/ tabs, a google search on her husband, a page on her...

...and a page on Alan Colmes.

Looks like someone tried to find the dirt and discovered there was none.

Or none sent through email and or the address(s) hacked?

At least these /b/tards might find something lulzish, unlike those protestfags. *shudder*

Clearly this means Anon is sexist.

:D

Really this was an uncalled for stunt, illegal and also offering McCain a new incident to spin for political gain by saying how the evil democrats are attacking Palin unfairly.

Annonymous may sometimes have admirable goals, bt their methods are questionable, and overall I'd have to say they're just a bunch of wankers.

Really this was an uncalled for stunt, illegal and also offering McCain a new incident to spin for political gain by saying how the evil democrats are attacking Palin unfairly.

Annonymous may sometimes have admirable goals, bt their methods are questionable, and overall I'd have to say they're just a bunch of wankers.

They were going somewhere positive with Project Chanology, but that one fizzled out like New Coke.

Most of the time they're looking for short-term schadenfreude for lulz. Few if any are committed to long term goals like taking out Scientology and I Can't Believe It's Not Hillary.

Really this was an uncalled for stunt, illegal and also offering McCain a new incident to spin for political gain by saying how the evil democrats are attacking Palin unfairly.

Annonymous may sometimes have admirable goals, bt their methods are questionable, and overall I'd have to say they're just a bunch of wankers.

The mere fact that they were using fucking YAHOO as an official means of communication is more then sufficient to crucify them with and I hope it occurs.

I hate anons vigilante mob justice approach but the exposition of the sheer idiotic behavior of her organization is worth it in my opinion

Looks like the GOP are sic'ing the FBI and Secret Service on whoever hacked Palin's non-government email account. Hurray for smoke and mirrors to distract from the fact she was using it for official business.

GOP directs the FBI and SS now? Or are they just demanding it?

Looks like the GOP are sic'ing the FBI and Secret Service on whoever hacked Palin's non-government email account.
Good, I hope they get executed for filling the world with more politically motivated non-stories.
Hurray for smoke and mirrors to distract from the fact she was using it for official business.
And how is that significant enough to merit attention?

It appears that there is no dirt, though. Other than using her personal email for some state business, which is hardly criminal.

Can we have Joe Biden, McCain and Obama's computers hacked as well just for fairness?

We could, if you could tell us who "we" is. Why would you demand "fairness" when the group that did it is clearly partial to its own views? It's like you're asking Rush to blow as much sunshine up Biden's ass as he has Palin's?

It appears that there is no dirt, though. Other than using her personal email for some state business, which is hardly criminal.

Can we have Joe Biden, McCain and Obama's computers hacked as well just for fairness?

Obama's website was hacked by conservatives way before this. Turnabout is fair play.

Obama's website was hacked by conservatives way before this. Turnabout is fair play.

Only if it was the same hackers. You can't expect even treatment when the treatment itself is inherently partisan.

EDIT: These are hackers, not a nominally impartial media organization.

Only if it was the same hackers. You can't expect even treatment when the treatment itself is inherently partisan.

EDIT: These are hackers, not a nominally impartial media organization.

I'm not claiming Anon is impartial, media or an organization. I'm just pointing out that, well, neocons hacked Obama's site, so I'm finding it hard to muster sympathy for Palin. I only wish they disclosed something BIG and hope they are actually holding on to something big TO throw a wrench in McCain's campaign come November.

Good, I hope they get executed for filling the world with more politically motivated non-stories.

And how is that significant enough to merit attention?

Well, one new site reported that since Palin is currently under investigation, her official email can be viewed by the investigators.
Sending official stuff on a personal account is not only incredibly naive regarding data security and privacy, it might turn out to be actually an offense in this case...

It all just looks like a storm in a teacup, from where I'm sitting.

A comment that I saw on another forum earlier today sort of summed up the way I'd interpreted it...

What's really pissing me off about this entire yahoo email thing is the way that the entire media keep calling it "hacking"

Someone just entered her email adress and hit password recovery. She'd set her secret question to "What is your zip code?"

That is the extent of security she used. Now we get to watch as the fucking clusterfuck that is American media paints this as some evil liberal conspiracy using high tech attacks to target this christian woman.

There was no hacking, nobody broke in to the yahoo system. This is akin to someone locking their car and then leaving a note in the window saying : "I've hidden the keys on the front left wheel"

This woman would be in charge of nuclear launch codes. This is the level of security and computer knowledge she has and I, for one, find that to be a terrifying prospect. This, however, will be entirely ignored by the media, who will simply run this as another "POOR PALIN THE BOYS ARE MEAN TO HER" story.

tl:dr: looking up a zip code isn't hacking. Media will fuck the story completely.

Seems plausible to me.

It all just looks like a storm in a teacup, from where I'm sitting.

A comment that I saw on another forum earlier today sort of summed up the way I'd interpreted it...



Seems plausible to me.

Yeah, too bad logic doesn't prevail too often.

I like how they call anonymous an anti-Scientology group now, I guess 'chanology' was an epic fail. Also shame the wiki article misses out some of the best raids that anonymous have done.

Anonymous? They'll go after her tooth and nail until someone shines a flashlight on the floor and distracts them...

You sleep with a flashlight under your pillow don't you? :tongue:

I like how they call anonymous an anti-Scientology group now, I guess 'chanology' was an epic fail. Also shame the wiki article misses out some of the best raids that anonymous have done.
Oh the Chanology people will be pissed as well though, they have several GOP followers in their group.

Maybe that's why they did it?

they have several GOP followers in their group.


They do?


Maybe that's why they did it?

From what I hear, all it was was just one person who managed to hack into her yahoo mail account and then he posted some screen shots on /b/, it was not an anonymous attack by any means. The guy eventually gave out the login in details which caused a flood of logins causing her to delete her account. So yeah pretty lame.

Wasn't even a hack. Her security question just sucked. And then, in his brilliance, he gave the password to /b/, instead of, you know, actually archiving the e-mails and potentially revealing incriminating information.

Edit: It wasn't a security question. All Yahoo needs for a password reset is DOB, residence, and Zip Code.

Haha, it's being investigated by the secret service apparently, that's some serious business they've gotten themselves into.

I like how they call anonymous an anti-Scientology group now, I guess 'chanology' was an epic fail. Also shame the wiki article misses out some of the best raids that anonymous have done.

God help us...

I'm just looking for a "pro-Scientology" splinter group that can finally be used to purge this disgusting chapter from internet history.

Only if it was the same hackers. You can't expect even treatment when the treatment itself is inherently partisan.

EDIT: These are hackers, not a nominally impartial media organization.

No hacking took place... Googling the answer to a famous person's secret question isn't hacking. It's just not being a fucking moron (unlike the person who'd make something on public record their secret question...)

God help us...

I'm just looking for a "pro-Scientology" splinter group that can finally be used to purge this disgusting chapter from internet history.

You could always look up the Cult Awareness Network. Long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away it used to be a watchdog group until $cientology sued it to bankruptcy and bought out the rights to the name. Now it's a hollow shell that redirects people to $cientology every chance it gets. So it could be considered a pro-$cientology group.

Annonymous may sometimes have admirable goals

Fur die lulz?

I guess 'chanology' was an epic fail.
I don't know. I'm a little disappointed (though hardly surprised) that they couldn't keep the anti-Scientology demonstrations going longer, but I think it did raise some awareness and do long term damage to the Scientologists.

They do?

Yep, had one person went to the Texas RNC earlier this year to address the CO$ to them even.

They try and get both sides on board. Right for the "Forced Abortions, exploitation, slave labor, etc ." Left for the "Racism, Bigotry, Exploitation, slave labor, etc."

On the forums any "Partisan Faggotry" as quoted, is a huge forum crime.

I don't know. I'm a little disappointed (though hardly surprised) that they couldn't keep the anti-Scientology demonstrations going longer, but I think it did raise some awareness and do long term damage to the Scientologists.
Some still do it, but most of the regulars bailed. They had a protest last Sunday I heard. I think they're down to around 4,000 to 3,000 active people though.

The mere fact that they were using fucking YAHOO as an official means of communication is more then sufficient to crucify them with and I hope it occurs.

I hate anons vigilante mob justice approach but the exposition of the sheer idiotic behavior of her organization is worth it in my opinion


What's wrong with yahoo?

Palin sounds to much like a Canadian to be the Vice President...

Says a Minnesotan...

It all just looks like a storm in a teacup, from where I'm sitting.

A comment that I saw on another forum earlier today sort of summed up the way I'd interpreted it...



Seems plausible to me.

This is why I input a password that I will not forget and set the answer to the recovery question to randomly struck keys.

If there's dirt, let it be shown. But if there's dirt on Obama, let that be displayed for all to see, too.

There's plenty of room in politics for equal opportunity mudslinging.

Mudslinging is what political groups do to each other. A bored individual gaining the password to someone's e-mail account is not "mudslinging". Nor is it "mudslinging" to investigate potential unethical and illegal activity when it surfaces, such as Palin and her staff using private e-mail accounts for government business.

GOP directs the FBI and SS now? Or are they just demanding it?

Well, the President is a Republican, so I'd say the GOP runs the Secret Service right now. Unless you think they don't follow orders from the President?

We could, if you could tell us who "we" is. Why would you demand "fairness" when the group that did it is clearly partial to its own views? It's like you're asking Rush to blow as much sunshine up Biden's ass as he has Palin's?

Anything that makes Republicans look bad, even themselves = liberal media slandering their good names. That's all the logic you need.

What's wrong with yahoo?

All you need to know is someone's birthdate, residence, and Zip Code to get their password. It's enormously insecure.

What's wrong with yahoo?

The fact that any jackass with her Wiki page up could gain access to her Yahoo account, where she did official state business from.

Though, we already knew that she used a Yahoo account for state business. The current ethics investigation on her tried, and I believe is still trying, to subpoena the archived e-mails in this account because she did state business with it.

Well, the President is a Republican, so I'd say the GOP runs the Secret Service right now. Unless you think they don't follow orders from the President?


Well, that's the thing. Is Bush demanding it? Or just the GOP?

Lulz.

Mudslinging is what political groups do to each other. A bored individual gaining the password to someone's e-mail account is not "mudslinging". Nor is it "mudslinging" to investigate potential unethical and illegal activity when it surfaces, such as Palin and her staff using private e-mail accounts for government business.

Nope, its not mudslinging to go after Palin in this manner. Just sexism.

Nope, its not mudslinging to go after Palin in this manner. Just sexism.

Pffft. You just hate America.

Pffft. You just hate America.

And our troops. *nods*

And our troops. *nods*

Nononono, you're supposed to say "JAWOHL!" and throw a nazi salute. Then possible curbstomp some babies or kittens or something. And also say that Muhammad was a pretty cool guy, while drinking human blood from the skull of a bald eagle and wiping your chin with a burning US flag.

wiping your chin with a burning US flag.

That sounds dangerous.

And it might burn the beard he, as an extremist m0zlem, is obligated by the ebul shuhrias to sport.

That sounds dangerous. o_O

Terrorists are immune to fire. How else do you think Bin Laden gets away after setting the forest fires in California?

Terrorists are immune to fire. How else do you think Bin Laden gets away after setting the forest fires in California?

You're a nutcake. :D

I LIKEY!

Terrorists are immune to fire. How else do you think Bin Laden gets away after setting the forest fires in California?

I thought he's made of liquid metal. How else can he evade capture after being trapped in Tora Bora? He killed an American soldier and impersonated him to make a clean getaway to Pakistan.

Fur die lulz?

Well, I'd like to see the fall of the Church of Scientology. It is quite simply a mob front organization, and should be treated as such.

Well, I'd like to see the fall of the Church of Scientology. It is quite simply a mob front organization, and should be treated as such.
There's a thread on the whole thing somewhere in the NSG archives. I think it has all the info.

Agreed, this is not the place for the debate on that.

Agreed, this is not the place for the debate on that.

I know that, but when I'm asked a question I like to answer it.