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http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/14/charles-darwin-to-receive-apology-from-the-church-of-england-for-rejecting-evolution/?icid=200100397x1209623314x1200541837

Jesus, it's not like they killed anybody over it. Truth is, it took a long time for evolutionary theory to build its overwhelming case and to fault anyone for doubting it back in the 19th and early 20th centuries is a somewhat unfair appraisal of the situation. Changing beliefs isn't easy, and I can understand the reticence of religious institutions to adopt new ideas when they posed a potential (and ultimately unfounded) threat to their existing belief structure.

Apologizing like this seems like some kind of strange ploy to appeal to people for one reason or another. I don't fault anyone of that time for their rejection of evolutionary theory...there's a world of difference between them and today's creationist charlatans that play on lies, intellectual dishonesty, and ignorance about evolution to keep their views alive.

I can't help but recall the Catholic Church's official apology to Galileo in 1992.

These things take time.

*snip*
Agreed. It's not as if Church doctrine was until this announcement that evolution was wrong; they just never got around to apologizing. The Virginia legislature only recently apologized for slavery, but we've been slave-free for quite a while now.
And as Geniasis said, this is far from the longest wait for an apology.

I can't help but recall the Catholic Church's official apology to Galileo in 1992.
That's different, Galileo ended up before the Inquisition and in some potentially quite serious shit. All the church did to Darwin was laugh in his face, which is quite understandable considering that he was calling for a revision of a worldview that had been accepted and in place for over a millennium.

Well it's fairly clear to everyone that the CoE doesn't really dispute science, so I think this has more to do with them wanting to shake associations people make between them and certain "Christian brothers" from over the pond, than any particularly dramatic shift in their world view.

Awww, I thought you meant the Catholic Church...

A bit late for him to care.

Lolz

http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/14/charles-darwin-to-receive-apology-from-the-church-of-england-for-rejecting-evolution/?icid=200100397x1209623314x1200541837

Yet another failing of the CoE. They were right to reject his theories, as are all who continue to oppose them.

Yet another failing of the CoE. They were right to reject his theories, as are all who continue to oppose them.

We should still be able to burn witches as well.

We should still be able to burn witches as well.

Haven't you watched John Oliver's Terrifying Times? We used up all the witches, back when England was powered solely by them, because they weren't a renewable resource.

Haven't you watched John Oliver's Terrifying Times? We used up all the witches, back when England was powered solely by them, because they weren't a renewable resource.

The burden of proof is on you to prove they don't exist, otherwise I'll continue to believe what I feel like and I feel like burning some witches, specifically Ardchoille, her avatar is an affront to all that is holy.

The burden of proof is on you to prove they don't exist, otherwise I'll continue to believe what I feel like and I feel like burning some witches, specifically Ardchoille, her avatar is an affront to all that is holy.

*Hexes*

Oliver suggested England should've stuck with a Catholic-powered fuel technology, since we make more of ourselves.

*Hexes*

You were already on the list by dint of being both female and, well that was about it to be honest though the black cat avatar didn't help.

Does this mean Darwin isn't in Hell anymore?

Does this mean Darwin isn't in Hell anymore?

Exactly. Now he can party in protestant heaven.

Oliver suggested England should've stuck with a Catholic-powered fuel technology, since we make more of ourselves.

Yeah but a catholic-fired power station is going to run out of fuel pretty quick. All the non-condom use still isn't going to produce enough catholics to burn.

We should still be able to burn witches as well.

And gays.

Yeah but a catholic-fired power station is going to run out of fuel pretty quick. All the non-condom use still isn't going to produce enough catholics to burn.
Edit: found the whole thing:
Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate. Anyone remember that?:p Monty Python's meaning of life!

Took em long enough
Took em even longer to take back what Martian Luther said about what should be done to Jews

Lolz

http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/14/charles-darwin-to-receive-apology-from-the-church-of-england-for-rejecting-evolution/?icid=200100397x1209623314x1200541837

It looks like the CoE are trying to distance themselves from the recent upsurge of Creationism and anti-science theology.

Took em long enough
Took em even longer to take back what Martian Luther said about what should be done to Jews

Martian Luther?

What, did he advocate expulsion to Mars? :D

Took em long enough
Took em even longer to take back what Martian Luther said about what should be done to JewsTo be fair, the Church of England shouldn't be held responsible for Martin Luther.

Lolz

http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/14/charles-darwin-to-receive-apology-from-the-church-of-england-for-rejecting-evolution/?icid=200100397x1209623314x1200541837

Well, here's to another church that needs to grow a freakin' spine. *raises his beer bottle*

That's different, Galileo ended up before the Inquisition and in some potentially quite serious shit. All the church did to Darwin was laugh in his face, which is quite understandable considering that he was calling for a revision of a worldview that had been accepted and in place for over a millennium.

I know. I'm just saying it reminds of that.

Edit: found the whole thing:
Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate. Anyone remember that?:p Monty Python's meaning of life!

Ah the third world Yorkshire.

Edit: found the whole thing:
Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate. Anyone remember that?:p Monty Python's meaning of life!

How could you not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8&feature=related

The funniest part I thought when I first saw this (at a catholic school no less)apart from the song itself is when the little girl sings solo "Let, the heathens spill them on the dusty ground"

the main thing when arguing about religion is

I reject YOUR reality and subsitute it with my OwN

Well, here's to another church that needs to grow a freakin' spine. *raises his beer bottle*

Yeah. How cowardly of them to accept reality! True Christians (tm) should remain deluded about science! :soap:

Yeah. How cowardly of them to accept reality! True Christians (tm) should remain deluded about science! :soap:

That's what Jesus would do.

Edit: found the whole thing:
Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate. Anyone remember that?:p Monty Python's meaning of life!
hey Sperm-run power plant. . . .fun, cheap AND renewable!

hey Sperm-run power plant. . . .fun, cheap AND renewable!

Just imagine the amount of health issues with that, all those sore hands.

Just imagine the amount of health issues with that, all those sore hands.

The hand moisturiser industry would have sky rocketing profits.

Well, here's to another church that needs to grow a freakin' spine. *raises his beer bottle*

:rolleyes:

That's what Jesus would do.

Nonsense. Jesus would simply look in his empty glass of wine and ask for a refill.

Nonsense. Jesus would simply look in his empty glass of wine and ask for a refill.

He needs water first.

Please try to remember the conversions people.

Water + HoC (Hand of Christ) = Wine

Urine + no HoC = Budweiser

Budweiser + HoC = Good German Beer

He needs water first.

Please try to remember the conversions people.

Water + HoC (Hand of Christ) = Wine

Urine + no HoC = Budweiser

Budweiser + HoC = Good German Beer

I think urine may actually be an improvement over Bud. I don't really know, not having tried urine, but it smells better.

Even Christ couldn't make Bud better, maybe bud, but not Bud.

Jesus, it's not like they killed anybody over it. Truth is, it took a long time for evolutionary theory to build its overwhelming case and to fault anyone for doubting it back in the 19th and early 20th centuries is a somewhat unfair appraisal of the situation. Changing beliefs isn't easy, and I can understand the reticence of religious institutions to adopt new ideas when they posed a potential (and ultimately unfounded) threat to their existing belief structure.

Apologizing like this seems like some kind of strange ploy to appeal to people for one reason or another. I don't fault anyone of that time for their rejection of evolutionary theory...there's a world of difference between them and today's creationist charlatans that play on lies, intellectual dishonesty, and ignorance about evolution to keep their views alive.
There's another reason to apologize.... to kind of step aside, and point fingers at fundamentalists, and say "WE don't have a problem with understanding that science is valid.... THEY'RE the ones who refuse to believe it if it's not in the Bible."

But when will the Romans apologize to Jesus?

These things take time.

Lol! You, sir, win.

But when will the Romans apologize to Jesus?

They've already let him have a whole hill in Rome where all his friends and relatives live (at least the Catholics, think so).

But when will the Romans apologize to Jesus?

Don't forget the Jews apology.

Don't forget the Jews apology.

They let Mel Gibson make The Passion of the Christ. Jesus should be apologizing to them.