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While reading a so-called 'freedom' blog, I came upon a particular American demagogue who was preaching that, as a result of the South Ossetia war, Russia would isolate itself, conquer Europe and the middle East, and hell would reign on Earth.

Though I seriously doubt that this is the true way that events will play out, I was wondering if there might be a grain of truth inside the 'ebil kommiez!' propoganda. Russia has indeed become rather 'cold' to the Western nations, some would say in an attempt to prove itself to the world when the First Russian Empire and the USSR failed. Also, the Russian 'bear' has been 'seen' looking 'hungrily' towards Easter Europe - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122100831438617621.html?mod=hps_us_at_glance_opinion .

TIME Magazine, too, reported on this possible phenomenon in their August 25th issue, apptly named 'How to Stop a Second Cold War. In it, they empthasized the common ground between the West and the Russian Federation.

Anyway, I was wondering what the other residents of the General Board thought about this. It can be considered old news, it is true, but that does not make it any less important, nyet? ;)

Should I add a poll?

It's scare tactics, pure and simple. Though I'm fairly certain that the military-industrial complex would love a new Cold War. All those new defense contracts and no worry about someone creating a peace dividend.

In practice, though, it should be no different than what we're doing right now: having an arms race with ourself.

It's scare tactics, pure and simple. Though I'm fairly certain that the military-industrial complex would love a new Cold War. All those new defense contracts and no worry about someone creating a peace dividend.

In practice, though, it should be no different than what we're doing right now: having an arms race with ourself.

This can be argued. But if the RF and China came together (which is unlikely, they mutually distrust each other), that would be a formidable chalenge. Fortunately, the Chinese economy is too dependent on American businessmen to change.

I don't think the remnants of the past one ever really faded. Right now Russia has a puppet president (hand-picked by his predecessor), and there is a lot going on and the gears in old Russia are turning. Northern Russia, Siberia is getting oil money right now and their economy is being stimulated at a faster rate than ever before. The war with Georgia is just a warm up. International Relations are failing Russia has indeed become rather 'cold' to the Western nations, and this seems to be the case.

The United States needs to handle this one delicately because we would seem highly hypocritical to tell Russia to back off.

The United States needs to handle this one delicately because we would seem highly hypocritical to tell Russia to back off.

If politicians were actually bothered by hypocrisy, the world would be in a much better state

If politicians were actually bothered by hypocrisy, the world would be in a much better state

Very true.

I don't think the remnants of the past one ever really faded.

At least there aren't MAD's in place anymore...

At least there aren't MAD's in place anymore...

Takes less than a day to target warheads.

Takes less than a day to target warheads.

It does? Well then... At least Stalin ain't top dog in Russia anymore. It's interesting to wonder on who's side would stalin be in the Georgia War.

Some of the Georgian-Russian animosity comes from the Georgian media "remembering" Stalin's not too good treatment of Georgians.

While reading a so-called 'freedom' blog, I came upon a particular American demagogue who was preaching that, as a result of the South Ossetia war, Russia would isolate itself, conquer Europe and the middle East, and hell would reign on Earth.

Though I seriously doubt that this is the true way that events will play out, I was wondering if there might be a grain of truth inside the 'ebil kommiez!' propoganda. Russia has indeed become rather 'cold' to the Western nations, some would say in an attempt to prove itself to the world when the First Russian Empire and the USSR failed. Also, the Russian 'bear' has been 'seen' looking 'hungrily' towards Easter Europe - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122100831438617621.html?mod=hps_us_at_glance_opinion .

TIME Magazine, too, reported on this possible phenomenon in their August 25th issue, apptly named 'How to Stop a Second Cold War. In it, they empthasized the common ground between the West and the Russian Federation.

Anyway, I was wondering what the other residents of the General Board thought about this. It can be considered old news, it is true, but that does not make it any less important, nyet? ;)

This cold war you speak of will be as a tv dinner is, it stays cold up until somebody starts pressing buttons, then at that point the war become hot (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=566025).

Its already happening....

This can be argued. But if the RF and China came together (which is unlikely, they mutually distrust each other), that would be a formidable chalenge.You mean something like the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organization)?

You mean something like the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organization)?

:eek:
At least they claim that they're not directed against any other countries... But that's a big claim...