Who read's Terms and Conditions?
Western Mercenary Unio
13-09-2008, 17:19
I don't.I just skip them and click agree or if I have to scoll down i just scoll fast and don't read them.I just want to get fast into the game or a registration.I know that they put them there only to avoid lawsuits but who here actually reads them?
Ashmoria
13-09-2008, 17:21
i look through them to see if they put in anything unusual but i never read them closely.
One or two lawyers, who then tell the internet if there's something especially note worthy in them.
Adunabar
13-09-2008, 17:24
I don't, and there's no apostrophe in reads.
Western Mercenary Unio
13-09-2008, 17:27
I don't, and there's no apostrophe in reads.
well,sorry.i didn't remember it(being finnish and all) and it's so minor mistake.
Adunabar
13-09-2008, 17:28
I know. I'm helping you with your English. Next lesson we'll cover captial letters at the start of sentences.
Yootopia
13-09-2008, 17:31
Eh I used to, and still skim them, but since they almost always say "we can change any of this whenever we like", you might as well just click 'accept'.
Western Mercenary Unio
13-09-2008, 17:32
I know. I'm helping you with your English. Next lesson we'll cover captial letters at the start of sentences.
I know.Same thing in finnish.I ignore it.
HC Eredivisie
13-09-2008, 17:33
I know.Same thing in finnish.I ignore it.No you don't.;)
Hydesland
13-09-2008, 17:34
I know.Same thing in finnish.I ignore it.
What about putting a space after every full stop and comma! That would make your sentences look nicer.
Conserative Morality
13-09-2008, 17:35
Usuallly I'll skim them to make sure that they don't have anything like mandatory regular downloads or anything weird like that (No, I've never seen that), but usually I don't read them too closely.
Western Mercenary Unio
13-09-2008, 17:39
No you don't.;)
well,when i post a thread i do capitalize them.
What about putting a space after every full stop and comma! That would make your sentences look nicer.
i ignore that too.although Word suggests that i put spaces there and i do because i wan those annoying wiggly lines out.
Adunabar
13-09-2008, 17:42
But it makes it faster for everyone to read.
Western Mercenary Unio
13-09-2008, 17:43
But it makes it faster for everyone to read.
well..*tries to think a way to get out of it.
(this is a problem for me in debating.when i say something in a debate,and then the other guy says something generally i find i agree with it and then i think''fuck it'' and drop that debate.)
HC Eredivisie
13-09-2008, 17:58
well,when i post a thread i do capitalize them.
And the sentence I quoted.:tongue:
Western Mercenary Unio
13-09-2008, 18:02
And the sentence I quoted.:tongue:
yeah,that was to lampshade capitalization
Intangelon
13-09-2008, 18:13
Who uses an apostrophe on a verb?
Bad enough they've been showing up in plurals for a while.
I suppose I should make allowances for not having English as a first language, but were it me, I'd want the information.
Adunabar
13-09-2008, 18:13
We've already been through this.
Western Mercenary Unio
13-09-2008, 18:16
Who uses an apostrophe on a verb?
Bad enough they've been showing up in plurals for a while.
why,oh why do you go after me like this?only for an apostrophe!and,as for your question who uses an apostrophe in a verb,i do!because i didn't know that.
Adunabar
13-09-2008, 18:18
Ah, but "only" an apostrophe can have disastrous effects. One woman wrote a will and put an apostrophe where she shouldn't and missed out a comma, so her son missed out on her fortune.
Western Mercenary Unio
13-09-2008, 18:19
Ah, but "only" an apostrophe can have disastrous effects. One woman wrote a will and put an apostrophe where she shouldn't and missed out a comma, so her son missed out on her fortune.
wow.that's so bad luck.
Intangelon
13-09-2008, 18:22
We've already been through this.
Yes, but to seemingly no effect. Our Finn friend has deliberately abandoned the space bar.
Adunabar
13-09-2008, 18:22
And the shift key.
Western Mercenary Unio
13-09-2008, 18:26
Yes, but to seemingly no effect. Our Finn friend has deliberately abandoned the space bar.
Fine, I will try to remember to use the space bar and the shift key.
Ah, but "only" an apostrophe can have disastrous effects. One woman wrote a will and put an apostrophe where she shouldn't and missed out a comma, so her son missed out on her fortune.
An apostrophe had fairly serious consequences for Sir Roger Casement, too.
Intangelon
13-09-2008, 18:28
Fine, I will try to remember to use the space bar and the shift key.
Thank you very, very much. I, and likely many others, thank you. :fluffle:
EDIT: That fluffle smiley lets you know I'm serious. I almost never use them.
Western Mercenary Unio
13-09-2008, 18:32
Thank you very, very much. I, and likely many others, thank you. :fluffle:
EDIT: That fluffle smiley lets you know I'm serious. I almost never use them.
Keyword being here trying to remember. As I have some ADHD tendencies and have ADD, I might forget some times the spaces and capitalizations.
Adunabar
13-09-2008, 18:58
Hey, you're doing really well. Sometimes actually doesn't have a space, though.
Non Aligned States
13-09-2008, 19:09
On topic, I do read the EULA. About some 8 or more years back, when I noticed curiously worded legalese essentially saying "our software is going to collect some information off your computer, and then send it to us, which we may sell to a third party."
That sort of put me on guard ever since.
I hear the Google Chrome EULA is rather evil. Something along the lines of everything transmitted through it becoming property of google. Though my friend may just be full of shit. Lets see what google finds about its own evilness.
Ah, seems the evil was just a mistake and they're getting rid of it. Yay!
Ad Nihilo
13-09-2008, 20:40
I don't read EULAs... ever. I go on the assumption that my firewalls are being Nazi (they are, and if they aren't I make sure they are), and also "slightly altered" executables can be presumed to not work for the publisher, and make antiviruses go berserk if they work for anyone else.
I hear the Google Chrome EULA is rather evil. Something along the lines of everything transmitted through it becoming property of google. Though my friend may just be full of shit. Lets see what google finds about its own evilness.
Ah, seems the evil was just a mistake and they're getting rid of it. Yay!
you realize that just means the EVIL was there in the first place! :eek:
you realize that just means the EVIL was there in the first place! :eek:
Well google is a corporation, and everyone knows that corporations are evil, by law.
Lunatic Goofballs
13-09-2008, 23:00
DOn't read them. Nothing good will come of it. See for yourself:
http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/gamespy013.jpg
I never read them. I just scroll, click "accept" and keep on going. :D
http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/gamespy013.jpg
So that's where you get your AIEEE! from. I've been wondering.
On topic: I skim to make sure nothing out of the usual is there, and read certain sections that look noteworthy more closely.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-09-2008, 23:14
I never read them. I figure that, as many EULAs as I've agreed to over the years, the various rights I've ceded will all cancel each other out.
Apple may have legal ownership of my left testicle, but so does JP Morgan & Chase Co., so if either wants to collect, they'll have to fight it out in the courts first.
South Lorenya
13-09-2008, 23:29
I've read a couple due to extreme boredom. Every time I install, however, Is ee if they let me actually modify the EULA before accepting it. For one of my program, the whole EULA was "You must like pizza." or something similar! :D
[NS]Fergi America
14-09-2008, 00:41
It depends.
If it's a EULA, I tend to skim it, unless I suspect the software/service in question is likely to have some evil hidden in the terms.
If it's "Terms and Conditions," on the other hand, I usually go through it with a fine-tooth comb. That's because the things I sign up for that use Ts & Cs are usually places that are supposed to pay me money (in exchange for me promoting their/their clients' crap)--in other words, it's a business arrangement. When it comes to business online (and off, but I see more of this kind of stuff on the internet), I am careful to watch out for "lawful evil" crooks who hide behind tricky terms in order to not pay.
The Romulan Republic
14-09-2008, 02:41
I often do, because I hate lying when I click that I've read them, and because I value knowledge of my legal rights.
The Infinite Dunes
14-09-2008, 02:58
Only if money is involved.
Blouman Empire
14-09-2008, 03:03
Leave the poor kid alone.
As for the question, no I don't, but this thread needs a poll.
Western Mercenary Unio
14-09-2008, 06:53
This remids me of a song:
Grammar police
Arrest this nerd
She often fails
To conjugate a verb
Her sentence tense is always wrong
Grammar police
Arrest this geek
His clauses stink
His adverb use is weak
He’s dangling his participle
This is a sentence
Know the predicate
Follows the subject
And contains a verb
Grammar police
Apostrophes confound
They can’t be used
To pluralize a noun
They show possession, omission
Learn your alphabet
Don’t trust your spell check
“Their” will pass the test
When you meant “they are”
I before E
Except after C, except after C
I before E
Except after C, except after C
I before E
Except after C, except after C
I before E
Except after C, except after C
Possible Oscar-Grammar Police. http://www.possibleoscar.com/media/audio/.
I usually don't bother because I'll almost certainly violate them eventually in some way. It doesn't matter if it's terms and conditions or a warranty, I'll find a way to violate it.
FreedomEverlasting
14-09-2008, 09:05
Although I have no patience to read them all, I do occasionally read some of them.
Terms and Condition of installed programs usually involves how they are not responsible if their software breaks your computer, and how you are not allow to mod/share the program. While the first one is just to remove them from any responsibilities the moment you install, the second is something they can never enforce economically speaking.
Terms and conditions of things like banks and loan companies are flooded with the different ways they can change your terms at any time, and how they give your "non personal" information to 3rd parties to make money. While there's nothing you can do about the first condition, opt out of their ad programs are possible and are usually written in fine prints that nobody reads. So if you are receiving too much credit card ads in your mail, you know where it's all coming from.
Signing up to pay service like mobile phone are definitely something I read. Interesting highlights includes early termination fees, and how they do not guarantee service and you still have to pay. The combination of both terms mean, if you got their phone and have no reception in their area, you still have to either pay them for the whole 12 months (sometimes 24), or pay early termination fee. No real point of reading this though since all mobile phone comes with this condition. But you will be much better off if you make sure their are reception of that company around your area before you sign up.
Lunatic Goofballs
14-09-2008, 11:14
So that's where you get your AIEEE! from. I've been wondering.
John Kovalic bears responsibility for several of my more interesting personality traits. :p
I only read them if I think that something other than the usual terms and conditions apply.