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The layout is less simple and more complicated, it hides your groups and just looks crap. What do you think?

You just now notice this?

It's always been shite. It's unfortunate that it's pretty much impossible to have a social life at uni without it.

Its users are experiencing a strong, but probably very temporary, bout of inertia.

You just now notice this?

I haven't been on it since last week.

I haven't been on it since last week.

It's been like this for longer than a week. Lay your head down now, your turn is over.

It hasn't on the English version. It's been fine until today.

It hasn't on the English version. It's been fine until today.

You probably were on Old Facebook. Old Facebook is no longer an option as of very recently.

New Facebook is alright, though. It's just different--it takes a while to get used to it.

I was on Old Facebook. Why does New Facebook exist?

It's better than it was before. Now I don't have to rummage through the 101 different shitty applications that people add and then forget about to find a person's wall.

That's the only upside.

That's the only upside.

Also, you can find Groups in the "Info" section.

I'd prefer them to be on the profile.

I'd prefer them to be on the profile.

...but do the extra few seconds really matter?

This format makes more sense. Things are divided up more, so you can decide for yourself what you do and do not want to see. People used to whine and whine about applications... well, Facebook listened.

I find that I don't care.

I find that I don't care.

You unfeeling bastard!

Facebook: Voluntary deanonymization.

I passed.

I find that I don't care.

Seconded.

I find that I don't care.

neither do i.because i don't use Facebook.

It's been like this for longer than a week. Lay your head down now, your turn is over.

No it hasn't, they just forced the change within the past couple days. If you elected to change it yourself, that's your own stupid problem.

I tried to avoid the change as long as possible. I wish I at least had a choice...

Facebook: Voluntary deanonimization.

I passed.
What is this word, and what does it mean?
From where did it come? Where will it go?
Does no one care, or can anyone know?

It means it takes away your anonymity.

What is this word, and what does it mean?
Sorry, spelling error. Deanonymization.

From where did it come?
http://www.dfki.uni-kl.de/vega/relfun+/RFM-Manual/node22.html

Where will it go?
Anonymous never forgets.

The thing I hate the most is that they've combined the wall and the mini-feed. It looks terrible.

They did it to double their advertising though. Although when they replace the ads with what my friends have put as their statuses over the past couple days, this is extra creepy.

What is this word, and what does it mean?
From where did it come? Where will it go?
Does no one care, or can anyone know?

It's a neologism, and I, for one, don't like it. Mainly because of the US English style of spelling.

It's better than it was before. Now I don't have to rummage through the 101 different shitty applications that people add and then forget about to find a person's wall.

I agree. I much prefer the new layout.

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The layout is less simple and more complicated, it hides your groups and just looks crap. What do you think?

sorry, you're not getting me to click on that link... no sirree bob.

and isn't 'less simple' the same as 'more complicated'?

It's always been shite. It's unfortunate that it's pretty much impossible to have a social life at uni without it.
People don't have phones, IMs, and personal contact?

People don't have phones, IMs, and personal contact?

All of that is just an illusion. The Matrix has you Kat.

I <3 it.

The thing I hate the most is that they've combined the wall and the mini-feed. It looks terrible.

They did it to double their advertising though. Although when they replace the ads with what my friends have put as their statuses over the past couple days, this is extra creepy.

Which is really what it is all about, none of this rubbish that spills out of their mouths about making it easier for us, and we a re listening to you, it is all about making more money.

Before anyone says something along the lines of well its free, this isn't a service to you blah blah blah, I understand that and I accept that is what it is about. But I hold onto my right to be unhappy about it and I wish that they would just be honest about it, say we are doing it to make more money dont say we are doing it to make it better for you because you aren't and the end result isn't.

People don't have phones, IMs, and personal contact?

It is easier rather than contacting people for major events just to look up on facebook and see when the event is on.

It's been like this for longer than a week. Lay your head down now, your turn is over.

Well, no it was only made compulsory about a day ago.

And I hate the new layout, I would like to close my account but everybody uses it and it is the best way to organise events without having to call up people or send emails you just look see it is on at this time this date and confirm that you will be attending.

Well, no it was only made compulsory about a day ago.

And I hate the new layout, I would like to close my account but everybody uses it and it is the best way to organise events without having to call up people or send emails you just look see it is on at this time this date and confirm that you will be attending.

I was still on the original until 10 minutes ago when I foolishly clicked "try it out".

Now I'm doubly peeved.

But there's an opt out: http://apps.new.facebook.com/?fbnew_opt_out=1

Also, there's a large and growing "I hate the new facebook" group, see link below, which has a nice list of meansd to complain.

COMPLAIN HERE:

http://forum.developers.facebook.com/viewforum.php?id=39%3Cbr%20/%3E/

http://www.facebook.com/s.php?k=100000080&id=4

Call & Complain: (650) 853-1300

JOIN THESE GROUPS:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34175927925

JOIN THIS PETITION:

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Tis all quite terrible. They changed my account today permanently and I joined a bunch of groups protesting against it. There's a group with 1.5m users.

Wait. Who the hell uses facebook?

For some reason, I think I can finally know what it must have been like to move from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95, except with no manual and no way of going back.

I don't find that it inconveniences me at all, so I really don't mind it.

Well, it's made Opera crash twice and I can't move my boxes. Just generally it's a slower interface. Shit.

I was still on the original until 10 minutes ago when I foolishly clicked "try it out".

Now I'm doubly peeved.

But there's an opt out: http://apps.new.facebook.com/?fbnew_opt_out=1

Also, there's a large and growing "I hate the new facebook" group, see link below, which has a nice list of meansd to complain.

Yes thank I have complained already, and have joined these new groups. Good thing you still had it shame they have got you in the old block, my boxes have stuck and I cant dismiss them from the main page to the applications page.

I hope they do decide to change back or at least give us the option for the two layouts.

That link you posted the one in your quote doesn't work it just goes straight to my profile page.

I didn't use facebook before not using facebook was cool.

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The layout is less simple and more complicated, it hides your groups and just looks crap. What do you think?

I think it is fine, new and differant, but fine.

I have worked in IT for the last 20 years and it never, and I mean never fails to amaze me how people react when faced with IT change.

Nobody wants it, nor likes it but y'know give it a few weeks, and it's be 'Ohhhs is much better then the old one' all over the place.

Tis all quite terrible. They changed my account today permanently and I joined a bunch of groups protesting against it. There's a group with 1.5m users.

Is that like the group a freind of mine asked me to join. 'Facebook is closing down in two week, join the save Facebook group'?

They stopped making you identify yourself by your uni e-mail and let teenagers in? That's when it crashed and burned in my opinion.

For teenagers here who use Facebook, I'm not sorry. You guys made it suck.

Nobody wants it, nor likes it but y'know give it a few weeks, and it's be 'Ohhhs is much better then the old one' all over the place.

This. If you just get used to it, it's really not that difficult. When you're being intentionally obtuse, you're not going to like it no matter what.

Just try it people. You'll get used to it. It is much more organized now, IMHO. I guess they're playing to the OCD market. :tongue:

Nobody wants it, nor likes it but y'know give it a few weeks, and it's be 'Ohhhs is much better then the old one' all over the place.

Only because the the people who hate it have come to realise that they are stuck with the damn thing and just shut up about it, while those who like it were drowned out before and are now being heard. BTW I still hate it, there are some good bits I will give it that but I preferred the old layout.

A man knew where he stood with the old layout.

'A man knew where he stood with the old layout.'

Heh again I cannot belive how many times I have heard this or themes on it, in my proffesional life.

It seems to me that when technology changes, the vast majority at first do not like it. Damn me I remember 'Dbaselll', with its poxy pull down menu system, then 'Access' turns up with it's fancy GUI, and guess what, data inputters didn't like it one bit. Now go and ask one of them if they would like to return to a menu driven system like 'Dbaselll' and I wonder what the answer would be?:D

Honestly, technolgy changes, and there really is nowt we can do about it. I rember when the CD cam out and all the vynil heads where up in arms, me I thought shit more music on a smaller medium, cool!

They stopped making you identify yourself by your uni e-mail and let teenagers in? That's when it crashed and burned in my opinion.

For teenagers here who use Facebook, I'm not sorry. You guys made it suck.

Yeah, yeah. We get it. You had to walk 3.14 miles to school in a blizzard, uphill both ways. Gas was cheaper, and every guy on the subway had a deeply personal way for telling the people around him to fuck off, unique to each person. Your iPods had wheels and monochrome screens, etc.

Heh again I cannot belive how many times I have heard this or themes on it, in my proffesional life.

It seems to me that when technology changes, the vast majority at first do not like it. Damn me I remember 'Dbaselll', with its poxy pull down menu system, then 'Access' turns up with it's fancy GUI, and guess what, data inputters didn't like it one bit. Now go and ask one of them if they would like to return to a menu driven system like 'Dbaselll' and I wonder what the answer would be?:D

Honestly, technolgy changes, and there really is nowt we can do about it. I rember when the CD cam out and all the vynil heads where up in arms, me I thought shit more music on a smaller medium, cool!

But is this new layout really technology changing? It is change one which I don't like simple because I do like the old way and I prefer it over this new layout, that is not to say I hate all new layouts maybe one which worked better for me I would like it more than the old layout. I am not against technology myself, I am what you would call an early adapter hell I had a Blu Ray player not long after they were released in Australia. But in this instance this new change is not to my liking.

As for my little "A man knows where he stands" comment, it was intended as a joke and was a reference to a 1970's TV show, but I thought that might get you I am not surprised at all to hear that you have heard it over the years.

I notice facebook went downhill at about the same time they let highschoolers have one.


Coincidence? I think not.

Coincidence? I think not.

Do you have an explanation for the causal relation you're implying?

Do you have an explanation for the causal relation you're implying?

Nothing other then the obvious nature of highschoolers and their love of idiotic myspace esc "applications".


Aside from that, nothing.;)

Nothing other then the obvious nature of highschoolers and their love of idiotic myspace esc "applications".

What does this have to do with you? What difference does it make to your Facebook experience if every high schooler in the country has a Facebook profile crowded with applications?

Are you Facebook friends with a lot of high schoolers? If you are, surely opening it to high schoolers was a net asset to you? If you aren't... how exactly does what they do affect you?

Edit: It's an interesting phenomenon of the young that whatever their views toward their elders, they virtually always look with contempt upon those even only a few years younger than them.

What does this have to do with you? What difference does it make to your Facebook experience if every high schooler in the country has a Facebook profile crowded with applications?

Are you Facebook friends with a lot of high schoolers? If you are, surely opening it to high schoolers was a net asset to you? If you aren't... how exactly does what they do affect you?

It was a joke that has been taken to far by you. Chill.:tongue:

It was a joke that has been taken to far by you. Chill.:tongue:

My tone was (intended to be) curious, not angry. :)

Maybe you intended it as a joke, but it seems to be accepted Facebook dogma for many... so I'm trying to understand it.

My tone was (intended to be) curious, not angry. :)

Maybe you intended it as a joke, but it seems to be accepted Facebook dogma for many... so I'm trying to understand it.

It may go back to the old Facebook was for the upper class' while Myspace was for the lower class'.

I remember reading an article on the Social Network wars, and it mentioned how Facebook used to have a bit more class rather than Myspace, IMO it still does despite the change. So while Facebook was for the more elite or at least in their minds elite Myspace was more of a lower class plebs sort of web page a place where emos and goths and maybe even a few preps would hang hang out. In fact the article pointed also mentioned that the US Army had banned MySpace the site which many of its enlisted personnel used but didn't ban Facebook which was the site more of its officers use. Now that more and more people are moving into Facebook including teenagers maybe some of the people aren't liking that because now they want it to be a more exclusive club.

Yeah, yeah. We get it. You had to walk 3.14 miles to school in a blizzard, uphill both ways. Gas was cheaper, and every guy on the subway had a deeply personal way for telling the people around him to fuck off, unique to each person. Your iPods had wheels and monochrome screens, etc.

Back in my day our Ipods had to be started with a crank...goddamn kids with their "wheels" and their "music".

Back in my day our Ipods had to be started with a crank...goddamn kids with their "wheels" and their "music".

In my day, we were still on the Apod, all the way to 'I' now, times fly when you're having fun.

In my day, we were still on the Apod, all the way to 'I' now, times fly when you're having fun.
In my day, we had banging our b-pods together and listen to that music.

Back in my day our Ipods had to be started with a crank...goddamn kids with their "wheels" and their "music".

In my day, we were still on the Apod, all the way to 'I' now, times fly when you're having fun.

In my day, we had banging our b-pods together and listen to that music.

:hail:

I concede.