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Not a new idea but an interesting one.

Natalie Dylan is selling her virginity online. Intriguingly, the 22-year-old San Diego woman, who already holds a B.S. in women's studies, plans to finance her graduate school education in marriage and family therapy from the proceeds of the virginity auction. To prove her chastity, she will undergo a gynecological exam as well as a lie detector test.

Surprisingly, Natalie Dylan is entering into a not uncommon online marketplace. For instance, in 2007, 18-year-old Carys Copestake tried to sell her virginity for £10,000. In 2004, 18-year-old Rosie Reid, a lesbian student at Bristol University, auctioned hers off for £8,400. Oddly, British women are very over-represented although there are many other cases in other countries, including men who have sold their services online. Asked about her decision and doubters, Dylan replied, "We live in a capitalist society. Why shouldn't I be allowed to capitalize on my virginity?"

To consummate the deal, Natalie Dylan will meet the winner at the infamous Moonlite Bunny Ranch, a legal brothel, which is holding the auction, in Nevada where her sister works. She is apparently looking for a $1 million dollar bid, which may be highly optimistic given the prices that past auctions have closed at, but the amount of press she is getting, including an appearance with Howard Stearn, won't hurt.


Pics:

http://www.digitalalchemy.tv/2008/09/natalie-dylan-virgin-auction-photos.html


What do you think? Is this over the line or perfectly fine? :fluffle:

What the hell is women's studies?

It would be a smarter business decision to rent it rather than sell it outright. *nod*

What the hell is women's studies?

I got a B.S. in Women's Studies. I worked long and hard for that one. :p

It would be a smarter business decision to rent it rather than sell it outright. *nod*

Yes, good call. :hail:

Edit: Notice in the article her sister in fact rents hers. Probably much cheaper......

Hahaha.

Not a new idea but an interesting one.

Pics:

http://www.digitalalchemy.tv/2008/09/natalie-dylan-virgin-auction-photos.html


What do you think? Is this over the line or perfectly fine? :fluffle:

I don't see any real issue. It's pretty much established that our culture fetishises both yourh and virginity - both of which are available to any given person in very ephemeral form.

If she wants to sell it, and someone wants to buy it, that's between them, as far as I'm concerned.

I doubt she'll make a million.

Wow shes hot.


Too bad shes charging a million. I can pick up girls that look like that at a bar.

And I dont have this fetish with virginity. I like my girls experienced.

*looks at pic*
nah. she'd have to pay me.

What do you think? Is this over the line or perfectly fine? :fluffle:
It is probably just the beer goggles talking, but she looks pretty hot to still be a virgin at 22, altough I guess the fact that she expects a million dollars in return for hers might explain it.

*looks at pic*
nah. she'd have to pay me.

You have no taste in women.

Wow shes hot.


Too bad shes charging a million. I can pick up girls that look like that at a bar.

And I dont have this fetish with virginity. I like my girls experienced.

See - I'm with you on the virginity thing - there's nothing extra appealing about virginity to me. I wouldn't dump a girl if I found out she was a virgin, but it's certainly not an extra attraction.

But, this particular girl is totally not my type. Given the choice of her virginity, or a Quarter Pounder with Cheese, I'd be going to McD's.

*looks at pic*
nah. she'd have to pay me.

I heard she already had a 250k offer. With 250k you can go to the Middle East and find enough gorgeous women to fill a harem.

You have no taste in women.

I'm with Junii, here.

Isn't prostitution illegal in most american states? That would mean anyone bidding on it that did not reside in.. Nevada... would be breaking the law.

See - I'm with you on the virginity thing - there's nothing extra appealing about virginity to me. I wouldn't dump a girl if I found out she was a virgin, but it's certainly not an extra attraction.


I wouldnt break it off with a girl for being a virgin either. I am however unlikely to end up i that situation because (aside from being engaged) I tend to date girls that both look and act, as "wholesome" Christians would put it, "trashy".


I have a thing for dirty girls.

What do you think? Is this over the line or perfectly fine?
Prostitution is a long-established and respected profession. Different people just use different marketing strategies.

She isn't the first, isn't the last, but the novelty of auction and the publicity might give her a higher bid. The customers are paying for the publicity and the concept, not the virginity.

Isn't prostitution illegal in most american states? That would mean anyone bidding on it that did not reside in.. Nevada... would be breaking the law.

The transaction takes place in Nevada. So the answer would be no.

Isn't prostitution illegal in most american states? That would mean anyone bidding on it that did not reside in.. Nevada... would be breaking the law.

It's perfectly legal where she is, so there's no underlying crime.

I have a thing for dirty girls.

Well then her sister does actually work at the fine establishment that is holding the auction. I bet sis knows a thing or two. :tongue:

I heard she already had a 250k offer. With 250k you can go to the Middle East and find enough gorgeous women to fill a harem.

or from where I live, go to china or japan and find that harem...

heck, I could probably move that harem here for that money...

You have no taste in women.

Beauty... KOL... is in the eye of the Beer holder. ;)

or from where I live, go to china or japan and find that harem...

heck, I could probably move that harem here for that money...

Who would turn down Hawaii? Better start saving those pennies.... :wink:

Beauty... KOL... is in the eye of the Beer holder. ;)


Yes, beer goggles have proven to be real...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26205250/

something we all knew anyways.

It would be a smarter business decision to rent it rather than sell it outright. *nod*
Perhaps she should be a public company and sell shares? :D

Perhaps she should be a public company and sell shares? :D

Well, she does have three working offices....

I think that's right.

Perhaps she should be a pubic company and sell shares? :D
Fixed.

Oh good, I'm in the market for a virginity. I seem to have misplaced mine somewhere and it would nice to have one again. Maybe pick up two just in case.

You know, I've actually considered selling my virginity as a not-so-bad idea. It would pay for a semester or two of graduate school, perhaps. I cut this girl some slack; it's hard in today's economy to come up with enough money to go to college.

its funny to think that some fool might pay for what millions of women cheerfully give away for free.

if she can safely make the deal its no worse than any other form of prostitution.

$1M.........with that butter face? not happening.

Why am I not surprised that the Moonlight Bunny Ranch is getting in on this?

Of course if she DOES go through with it, she could land up there with a helicopter.

You know, I've actually considered selling my virginity as a not-so-bad idea. It would pay for a semester or two of graduate school, perhaps. I cut this girl some slack; it's hard in today's economy to come up with enough money to go to college.

I think you'll find that most of the people that oppose some form of protected, legal, prostitiution - are fuck-ugly. It's jealousy speaking, not morality.

I'm just pissed that I didn't think of selling mine...

It would be a smarter business decision to rent it rather than sell it outright. *nod*

Virginity, barring surgery, is a one off thing. You can't rent it because it isn't there anymore after one use.

Virginity, barring surgery, is a one off thing. You can't rent it because it isn't there anymore after one use.

Bit of a lack of imagination, there. Plays her cards right, I can't see why she couldn't end up with two or three mill...

What do you think? Is this over the line or perfectly fine? :fluffle:

I think she should milk the capitalist cow (MU!) for all it's worth.

I got a B.S. in Women's Studies. I worked long and hard for that one. :p

Did you study naked women? That is called voyeurism not Woman's studies.:)

Many of us prostitute ourselves we well sell our labour power - our souls, our minds, our bodies.
But I wouldn't do it. I hope she finds love and happiness but I doubt that she will going there.

I think you'll find that most of the people that oppose some form of protected, legal, prostitiution - are fuck-ugly. It's jealousy speaking, not morality.

I'm just pissed that I didn't think of selling mine...

Hmm, I wonder how the men are able to do this. I wonder, if I pass myself off as a huge nerd, would I be able to put myself on the market (literally speaking)?

Anyone notice how women can command vast sums of money for their virginity while 75 to 90% of men couldn't ever pay enough to give theirs away?

:D

Bit of a lack of imagination, there. Plays her cards right, I can't see why she couldn't end up with two or three mill...

From a biological standpoint, it's still a one off thing.

Anyone notice how women can command vast sums of money for their virginity while 75 to 90% of men couldn't ever pay enough to give theirs away?

:D

Women can command vast sums from some men...

From a biological standpoint, it's still a one off thing.

You're not coming at this one from the right angle. So to speak.

You're telling me you couldn't find a better looking prostitute, or even a better looking virgin for $1 million? If you ask me, it sounds like a desperate attempt to escape from the obscurity and poverty only a women's studies degree could provide.

I mean, hell, for $1 million you could have the entire brothel for a month.

$1M.........with that butter face? not happening.

That's awesome.

"Butter face". I don't know what it means, but I intend to use it. A lot.

You know, I've actually considered selling my virginity as a not-so-bad idea. It would pay for a semester or two of graduate school, perhaps. I cut this girl some slack; it's hard in today's economy to come up with enough money to go to college.

Why does she need any slack? It's her virginity she may sell, rent, or give it away as she pleases and needs ask no leave or forgiveness of anyone.

Anyone notice how women can command vast sums of money for their virginity while 75 to 90% of men couldn't ever pay enough to give theirs away?

:D
its pretty rare to get anything for one's virginity, male or female.

if you had a bunch of extra cash would you pay a completely inexperienced prostitute for sex?

That's awesome.

"Butter face". I don't know what it means, but I intend to use it. A lot.

Everything is great butta face. Hence the term "butta face". Or "block away babe".

You're telling me you couldn't find a better looking prostitute, or even a better looking virgin for $1 million? If you ask me, it sounds like a desperate attempt to escape from the obscurity and poverty only a women's studies degree could provide.

I mean, hell, for $1 million you could have the entire brothel for a month.

I saw a documentary on them on HBO. At their prices I'm not too sure about that . . .

I saw a documentary on them on HBO. At their prices I'm not too sure about that . . .

He is right. For a million you could make it fall off from over use.

Everything is great butta face. Hence the term "butta face". Or "block away babe".

Eww... really?

On two counts. One... just eww. I'm not so fond of it now. But... two... eww. The face was the least of my worries...

I saw a documentary on them on HBO. At their prices I'm not too sure about that . . .

Well, it's a valuable lesson in budgeting.

I have to admit though, some of them would have to offer fairly large discounts. Call me crazy, but fake tits and plastic surgery just don't do it for me.

I wonder, if I pass myself off as a huge nerd, would I be able to put myself on the market (literally speaking)?
Why would you need to pass off?

Well, it's a valuable lesson in budgeting.

I have to admit though, some of them would have to offer fairly large discounts. Call me crazy, but fake tits and plastic surgery just don't do it for me.

I don't think most women realize that most guys don't like the plastic bits. I always have told women to do the best with what you were given. Guys don't generally care anyway.

I don't think most women realize that most guys don't like the plastic bits. I always have told women to do the best with what you were given. Guys don't generally care anyway.

Well, the sort of guys who would throw down huge amounts of money at a Nevada brothel probably care least of all.

Well, the sort of guys who would throw down huge amounts of money at a Nevada brothel probably care least of all.

It takes a certain type to frequent those places. So I am sure you are right.

http://www.digitalalchemy.tv/2008/09/natalie-dylan-virgin-auction-photos.html
W.T.F? :eek:

But, but...why? Unless she planned for auctioning off her goods in the first place that is.


I'd like to see a pencil neck geek try the same...fo' equality an' all that. :tongue:

edit:
Erm...So...can someone, cough, borrow me a million dollars? :fluffle:

I'd like to see a pencil neck geek try the same...fo' equality an' all that. :tongue:

He'd be laughed off by the nation as a whole, provide a few nights of punchlines for late night talk shows, and end up a couple months as an Anonymous meme.

He'd be laughed off by the nation as a whole, provide a few nights of punchlines for late night talk shows, and end up a couple months as an Anonymous meme.
So, why hasn't someone already done it if it is a ticket for 15 minutes of fame? ;)

Edit: Also why do you assume a pencil neck geek is automatically a he? :p

He'd be laughed off by the nation as a whole, provide a few nights of punchlines for late night talk shows, and end up a couple months as an Anonymous meme.

You know some women are suckers for pity sex. Although he wouldn't get paid I bet there would be a few women offering.

Edit: Also why do you assume a pencil neck geek is automatically a he? :p


Was thinking the same thing. Plenty of geeky women out there.

W.T.F? :eek:

But, but...why? Unless she planned for auctioning off her goods in the first place that is.


I'd like to see a pencil neck geek try the same...fo' equality an' all that. :tongue:

edit:
Erm...So...can someone, cough, borrow me a million dollars? :fluffle:
ya know, no matter how good looking a man might be, how buff his body, how spectacular his equipment, im not going to pay anything to be his first time at 22 years old.

ya know, no matter how good looking a man might be, how buff his body, how spectacular his equipment, im not going to pay anything to be his first time at 22 years old.
But why not?

If you had the money to spend and you'd think he was hot, what would you lose?

ya know, no matter how good looking a man might be, how buff his body, how spectacular his equipment, im not going to pay anything to be his first time at 22 years old.
But you're a woman, there can also be another case.

But why not?

If you had the money to spend and you'd think he was hot, what would you lose?
men need practice to be good in bed.

But you're a woman, there can also be another case.
im not sure what you mean.

men need practice to be good in bed.
What if it was some sort of longer term plan?

You could teach him to do what ever you desire...

im not sure what you mean.
If a man can love a woman with all his hart, why not another man?

That's awesome.

"Butter face". I don't know what it means, but I intend to use it. A lot.

"Great body, but her face...." Say the part after the comma relatively fast and with relaxed diction.

"Butterface."

If a man can love a woman with all his hart, why not another man?
if there are men who would pay for a stranger's virginity, i suppose that group includes those who prefer a man's over a woman's.

if there are men who would pay for a stranger's virginity, i suppose that group includes those who prefer a man's over a woman's.

In the joint it's worth a couple packs of cigs.

In the joint it's worth a couple packs of cigs.
*shudder*

I bet the price differential between a guy selling his virginity and a girl selling hers is pretty darn close to the price differential between pay rates for male porn stars and pay rates for female porn stars. This must be a focus area for my master's thesis and/or future dissertation.

I bet the price differential between a guy selling his virginity and a girl selling hers is pretty darn close to the price differential between pay rates for male porn stars and pay rates for female porn stars. This must be a focus area for my master's thesis and/or future dissertation.
where are you going to find men who have sold their virginity?

im pretty sure that the differential between 2 packs of prison cigs and the going rate for female virginity is much greater than the differential between male and female porn stars.

surely the big time male porn stars make good money at it.

where are you going to find men who have sold their virginity?

It has to exist somewhere. The internet may help in this regard.

im pretty sure that the differential between 2 packs of prison cigs and the going rate for female virginity is much greater than the differential between male and female porn stars.

surely the big time male porn stars make good money at it.

The big ones do, sure. But compare the number of them to the sheer number of people in the business and the pay scales look a lot less attractive; the primary reason a lot of heterosexual or bisexual actors do "gay for pay" is due to the considerably larger pay they get for producing those scenes as opposed to straight porn.

She looks like the girl from That 70's Show.

Though it is pretty arrogant to be looking for 50-60 times more than anyone else has ever got from this sort of thing. I wonder if there's a certificate of authenticity, or if you can return your purchase if it doesn't fit.

It has to exist somewhere. The internet may help in this regard.

This should probably be taken with a grain of salt, but here goes:

Bremen man selling virginity to the highest bidder (http://www.hoosiergazette.com/2004/April/News/news001.asp)

Young Man's Virginity. Please look. (http://www.whattheheck.com/ebay/iconclast.html)

She looks like the girl from That 70's Show.

Though it is pretty arrogant to be looking for 50-60 times more than anyone else has ever got from this sort of thing. I wonder if there's a certificate of authenticity, or if you can return your purchase if it doesn't fit.

You know the wife and I were just talking about this a couple hours ago. In Morocco and other Islamic nations a woman before she gets married may have to go to the doctor to prove her virginity. The doctor checks her out and then issues a "certificate of authenticity". However the problem in Morocco is the doctors have been getting sued by the husband and the families for supposedly being wrong. So doctors in Morocco are either not doing it anymore or charging a lot of money for the certificate. The whole process is laughable to me.

This should probably be taken with a grain of salt, but here goes:

Bremen man selling virginity to the highest bidder (http://www.hoosiergazette.com/2004/April/News/news001.asp)

Young Man's Virginity. Please look. (http://www.whattheheck.com/ebay/iconclast.html)

Where is that smiley that rolls in laughter!

Well, she does have three working offices....

I think that's right.

Close enough. ;)

Where is that smiley that rolls in laughter!

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-014.gif

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/lachen/laughing-smiley-014.gif

Aye, there she be.

See - I'm with you on the virginity thing - there's nothing extra appealing about virginity to me. I wouldn't dump a girl if I found out she was a virgin, but it's certainly not an extra attraction.

But, this particular girl is totally not my type. Given the choice of her virginity, or a Quarter Pounder with Cheese, I'd be going to McD's.

Extra seconded. I could pick up someone who looked like that and gave good head for free.

You have no taste in women.She's cute, but not my type. I'd do her, but I highly doubt I'd pay for it. Especially since she's a virgin. Let's not argue about taste, though. There's no way to really prove anyone wrong on it.

*looks at pic*
nah. she'd have to pay me.

Agreed. She doesn't have the tomboy look, so it does nothing for me.

I think "good for her" for trying her best to sell something meaningless to pay for something much more important - in this case, her education. I don't know how successful she'll be but I wish her luck with it and see no reason not to do it.

The thing that astonishes me is the pure vitriol expressed in the comments attached to that article - people seem personally affronted by her pragmatic attitude to selling sex. :confused:

Agreed. She doesn't have the tomboy look, so it does nothing for me.
im sure she'd be willing to dress up any way youd like if you are willing to pay her outrageous asking price.

Agreed. She doesn't have the tomboy look, so it does nothing for me.

So what you are telling us is you secretly like your woman looking like a guy? Hmmm....

I'd hit it, but I wouldn't pay.

Yes, beer goggles have proven to be real...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26205250/

something we all knew anyways.
... and they paid people for this study?

what's next? a study that water is wet?

Did you study naked women? That is called voyeurism not Woman's studies.:)
... the fact that my professor required us to bring our own binoculars and we always seemed to meet in various areas around the womens dorm all makes sense now...

Everything is great butta face. Hence the term "butta face". Or "block away babe".
I thought that term meant bagger. a two bagger is one for her head and one for yours incase her bag falls off.

Wow.. that is one expensive whore...
But one who will spend the money wisely :)

... and they paid people for this study?
.

I can never figure out where they advertise for people to use in these studies. Why don't I ever see this?





...

I thought that term meant bagger. a two bagger is one for her head and one for yours incase her bag falls off.


May be a regional thing. But those all mean the same thing just different ways of saying it. I personally like "block away babe". You know that girl that looks good walking toward you on the street. However when she gets closer it is clear the face isn't what you were expecting.

I think "good for her" for trying her best to sell something meaningless to pay for something much more important - in this case, her education. I don't know how successful she'll be but I wish her luck with it and see no reason not to do it.

The thing that astonishes me is the pure vitriol expressed in the comments attached to that article - people seem personally affronted by her pragmatic attitude to selling sex. :confused:

Well this is a market economy. And considering the fact that you can get top of the line prostitutes for 1000 dollar and she's asking for a million, it's no surprise that people think she's overshooting her price. It takes a lot of arrogance to think that her own service is worth a million dollars.

Then again I think her woman studies degree is a turnoff.

Oh, what? I totally thought this was about something different. I thought this was like for conservative Christian fathers who'd caught their daughter being naughty and wanted to purify them again. They could buy some latino's virginity and then insert the virginity into their daughter.

Oh, what? I totally thought this was about something different. I thought this was like for conservative Christian fathers who'd caught their daughter being naughty and wanted to purify them again. They could buy some latino's virginity and then insert the virginity into their daughter.

I'm sure anyone that concerned about their daughters virginity is just obsessed with the idea of sticking things in their daughter.

What do you think? Is this over the line or perfectly fine? :fluffle:Meh, if she wants to sell her virginity that's up to her. For my part, she's not my type and I wouldn't consider it even if she paid me.

It would be a smarter business decision to rent it rather than sell it outright. *nod*A bit difficult to rent out something that can only be used once though. ;)

*looks at pic*
nah. she'd have to pay me.
You have no taste in women.
I'm with Junii, here.
Yeah, me too. I'd rather be accused of having no taste than proving I don't.

I mean, hell, for $1 million you could have the entire brothel for a month.That'd be such fun; talking, cuddling, playing Scattergories (http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2008/05/06/i-paid-100-to-cuddle-with-a-prostitute/).

That'd be such fun; talking, cuddling, playing Scattergories (http://nevadasagebrush.com/blog/2008/05/06/i-paid-100-to-cuddle-with-a-prostitute/).

That's excellent.

i sense research for a paper about sex attitudes in the patriarchy

I'm guessing that whoever does wind up buying what she's selling is going to have a severe case of buyers remorse.

Italian model plans to sell virginity for 1m euros (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/2971511/Italian-model-plans-to-sell-virginity-for-1m-euros.html)

Looks like a blooming business, lately.