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Whole Food

Wilgrove
11-09-2008, 01:25
I discovered Whole foods yesterday, I also ate Vegan/Vegetarian meatloaf. Oh God....the unprocessed and refined food were delicious! The Turkey Burger was alittle dry, but it was still delicious. The meatloaf was actually pretty good, it still tasted like meat, but without the actual meat product.

I also had "all natural" Cola, which I'm still not getting. How can Cola be "All Natural"?

Anyone else here eat whole food?
Sarkhaan
11-09-2008, 01:32
Whole Foods, the grocery store?
or "whole foods" the concept?

I was raised in a pescetarian family...grew up with tofu loaf, tofu balls, veggie burgers, fakin, saitan...it's all pretty good
Wilgrove
11-09-2008, 01:36
Whole Foods, the grocery store?
or "whole foods" the concept?

I was raised in a pescetarian family...grew up with tofu loaf, tofu balls, veggie burgers, fakin, saitan...it's all pretty good

concept
Khadgar
11-09-2008, 01:39
Vegetarian is fine, organic is a load of horseshit.
Call to power
11-09-2008, 01:44
I have always found Vegetarian to taste more like meat than meat really

though yes the vegetarian food scientist have yet to figure out how to make bird...or bacon :'(

organic is a load of horseshit.

:D
Sarkhaan
11-09-2008, 01:59
I have always found Vegetarian to taste more like meat than meat really

though yes the vegetarian food scientist have yet to figure out how to make bird...or bacon :'(



:D
fakin is horrible. The "fat" just doesn't work, and the "meat" always ends up really bad.

there is a decent way to make "chicken" using saitan though...it works better as beef in my opinion.

Well, really, in my opinion, they shouldn't refer to vegitarian things as being "beef" or "chicken", as they don't really taste like what they're replicating. It's the only reason my roommates don't like the vegan place near us. "It doesn't really taste like beef. I thought it would"
Neesika
11-09-2008, 02:07
Farmer's Market chicken is the only poultry worth eating. Free range eggs...locally grown produce in season, and produce from an actually decent organic store (not that 'organic' shit sold in separate sections in the big supermarkets now)...all good. I use a lot of vegetarian ground for casseroles, tacos, things like that...I find beyond that, you shouldn't be trying to make it taste too meaty.

Food should be tasty, and I find most of the time what you get in the regular supermarkets just doesn't cut it.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
11-09-2008, 02:40
I also had "all natural" Cola, which I'm still not getting. How can Cola be "All Natural"?
Generally, it is made with real sugar (as opposed to HFCS or Phenylalanine or whatever else) and without added caffeine. It doesn't taste very good, though.
Wilgrove
11-09-2008, 02:53
Generally, it is made with real sugar (as opposed to HFCS or Phenylalanine or whatever else) and without added caffeine. It doesn't taste very good, though.

It actually tasted pretty good.
Smunkeeville
11-09-2008, 03:14
We eat a diet rich in whole foods, mostly from my garden, and a local co-op. I only really have to go to the grocery store for junk......like chocolate, which I can't seem to shake free of.
Frisbeeteria
11-09-2008, 03:17
I eat whole pizzas, whole burgers, and whole plates of pasta. I even ate a whole watermelon, but it took me a few days.
Knights of Liberty
11-09-2008, 03:18
I discovered Whole foods yesterday, I also ate Vegan/Vegetarian meatloaf. Oh God....the unprocessed and refined food were delicious! The Turkey Burger was alittle dry, but it was still delicious. The meatloaf was actually pretty good, it still tasted like meat, but without the actual meat product.

I also had "all natural" Cola, which I'm still not getting. How can Cola be "All Natural"?

Anyone else here eat whole food?

You realize that by eating natural and whole foods, you are now a communist/hippy.
Wilgrove
11-09-2008, 03:19
You realize that by eating natural and whole foods, you are now a communist/hippy.

Well fuck....I thought I was just enjoying good food that hasn't been pumped with anti-bodies and hormones.
Marrakech II
11-09-2008, 03:26
I eat whole pizzas, whole burgers, and whole plates of pasta. I even ate a whole watermelon, but it took me a few days.

Aye, I like that kind of whole food diet. :)
Marrakech II
11-09-2008, 03:28
You realize that by eating natural and whole foods, you are now a communist/hippy.

Next thing you know he will be driving an old VW bus wearing a Che Guevara T-shirt. Don't forget the "Bring the troops home" sticker on the bumper.
Lunatic Goofballs
11-09-2008, 03:32
Whole foods are a good way to choke and die. I prefer my foods in bite-sized chunks. *nod*
Knights of Liberty
11-09-2008, 03:32
Well fuck....I thought I was just enjoying good food that hasn't been pumped with anti-bodies and hormones.

You have been lied to.
Gauthier
11-09-2008, 03:53
You have been lied to.

One Of Us... One Of Us... One Of Us...
Wilgrove
11-09-2008, 04:00
One Of Us... One Of Us... One Of Us...

Gooble Gobble, Gooble Gobble, One of us one of us.
New Limacon
11-09-2008, 04:26
I try to avoid eating whole foods, as if even a crumb touched my lips the reaction in my taste buds would shock my brain into recognizing the hollow, consumerist life I lead which has no room for nature, or community, or even good taste, no, it just demands an unending stream of cheap, artificial baubles that leave my mind hungry and my stomach with a physical feeling of ennui.
So, yeah: I tend to stick to lunch meat.
Anti-Social Darwinism
11-09-2008, 04:33
I shop at Whole Foods. They're a bit pricy, but they get their produce and meat, as much as possible, from local growers and I do want to support the locals. I buy whatever is least expensive, so I don't always get organic. What I like best is that they make bread on site and, in the Spring and Summer, they make fresh mozarella cheese - which is purely wonderful.
Knights of Liberty
11-09-2008, 04:34
As a serious answer, there is a Whole Foods right by my apartment, and I shop there all the time. Love it.
Zombie PotatoHeads
11-09-2008, 06:34
Well fuck....I thought I was just enjoying good food that hasn't been pumped with anti-bodies and hormones.
essentially it's the same thing.
All those hormones and shit? Not just hormones. Also mind-control drugs and sedatives designed to keep you pacified and suceptible to their evil capitalistic messages.
Now you're free, you'll see the world in a world new light. You're one of us now, brother! You have broken free from the tyrannical chains of consumerism and mass-produced shitfood and are now one with the Earth!
Now all you need is a pair of tie-dyed flares and a beaded headband.
Peepelonia
11-09-2008, 10:03
concept

Yeah of course I have. I used to be a veggie for a couple of years, now of course I eat whatever the hell is put down in front of me(ummm come to think of it, my wife and I now have a new deal I do all the cooking), all home cooked of course no shity processed 'ready meals' for me, no sir!
Cabra West
11-09-2008, 11:05
I tend to. I'm more or less vegetarian by association, with my BF being vegetarian. I just don't really see the point in cooking speparate meals, so most of the time I'm cooking vegetarian.
And - truth be told, those Quorn chicken style pieces... wow. You'd have to go a long way to find a chicken tasting THIS good.
Same goes for Linda McCartney sundried tomatoe sausages, although to my neverending grief the supermarkets over here don't sell those any more since the Linda McCartney company changed hands about a year ago. They do have them at the vegetarian co-op, though. So it's not all bad. :D

I still do eat meat, usally when we go out for a meal. But I find it's getting less and less these days.
Snafturi
11-09-2008, 11:38
Quorn really is fabulous. I love it to no end.
Extreme Ironing
11-09-2008, 12:55
I discovered Whole foods yesterday, I also ate Vegan/Vegetarian meatloaf. Oh God....the unprocessed and refined food were delicious! The Turkey Burger was alittle dry, but it was still delicious. The meatloaf was actually pretty good, it still tasted like meat, but without the actual meat product.

I also had "all natural" Cola, which I'm still not getting. How can Cola be "All Natural"?

Anyone else here eat whole food?

I haven't heard the term 'whole foods' before, but yes I try to have unprocessed foods. I certainly love going out to the garden to pick some lettuce and other salad for lunch.
greed and death
11-09-2008, 18:59
It actually tasted pretty good.

it is really the same thing as normal coke. in order to keep cane sugar from crystallizing they have to invert it. Inverted cane sugar is exactly the same chemically as HFCS.
Ashmoria
11-09-2008, 19:07
i dont eat "whole food" or "organic food"

i eat simple food made from scratch.
Bitchkitten
11-09-2008, 19:10
There was a Whole Foods in Austin that I sometimes shopped at. But up here there's not much choice. Akins natural food market doesn't have nearly the selection.
Darvo-Tran
11-09-2008, 19:32
it is really the same thing as normal coke. in order to keep cane sugar from crystallizing they have to invert it. Inverted cane sugar is exactly the same chemically as HFCS.

Erm - no, it isn't. HFCS = High Fructose Corn Syrup. It's similar to ordinary corn syrup but has had the fructose content increased way beyond what's natural. Why do they do this? Because fructose tastes twice as sweet as glucose, which in turn tastes twice as sweet as sucrose (ordinary table sugar). Meaning they don't need to use as much. It's a synthetic product - related to ordinary sugar yes, but not the same thing at all.
It has other advantages too - such as it mixes more easily than sugar. When used in solid foods, like breads for example, it helps them retain water and stops them going stale so quickly.

While we're on the subject - you don't have to invert sucrose to stop it crystallising out of solution in coke, or any other soft drink for that matter. It's nowhere near concentrated enough. An average can of soft drink (use coke as an example if you like) contains 9 teaspoons of sugar (between 20 and 30 grams, depending on how big the granules are), in about 330 mL of water, plus all the other shite they stick in it like phosphoric acid (which is also used to dissolve rust off the surface of steel - think about what it's doing to your teeth!). Go and measure out that amount of water, then measure out 30 grams of sugar. Dissolve the sugar in the water (you might need to heat it a bit). Then leave your sugar solution in a sealed container (so the water doesn't evaporate). You could even carbonate it if you have a sodastream machine, to more accurately mimic coke.
I can promise that you'll be waiting until the end of time before it crystallises.
New Ziedrich
12-09-2008, 00:24
I had all-natural peanut butter once. It was awful.
UpwardThrust
12-09-2008, 02:58
i dont eat "whole food" or "organic food"

i eat simple food made from scratch.

Yeah same here I don't particularly care on either I buy local because the quality is higher and taste are better. While it probably qualifies as whole at least some of the time it is about the quality and preparation rather then particularly caring about it being whole

At least for major food staples as always I am an odd contradiction of loving quality local product as well as processed preserved junk food as well :)
UpwardThrust
12-09-2008, 03:00
I had all-natural peanut butter once. It was awful.

God yeah yuck I have tried it as well
G3N13
12-09-2008, 03:08
I once ate a veggie sausage...was horrible.


Can't understand the fixation to create meat products from non-meat products though, if you want meat eat meat, if you don't then have a salad or something. :p
New Limacon
12-09-2008, 03:11
Can't understand the fixation to create meat products from non-meat products though, if you want meat eat meat, if you don't then have a salad or something. :p

I guess people like the taste but not the ethical implications. It is a little odd though, I always find veggie burgers and the like much tastier if I think of them as a mushroom patty, not very inferior beef.
Soleichunn
12-09-2008, 03:50
Vegetarian is fine, organic is a load of horseshit.
I'm looking forward to vat meat.
Kyronea
12-09-2008, 04:31
I had all-natural peanut butter once. It was awful.

God yeah yuck I have tried it as well

You two have no appreciation for nutty tastes. Most peanut butter you can get is far too sweet. The all natural/organic peanut butter tastes much better.
The Phoenix Milita
12-09-2008, 11:22
Just two things to keep in mind....

The reason mankind invented enriched grains was to drastically increase their shelf life. Without enriched grains, the would not be able to support such a large population as it does.

The sole reason High Fructose Corn Syrup is used in the U.S. is a result of the high tariffs the US Gov't placed on the importing of sugar cane, at the behest of the corn farmer's lobby, nothing more.
Conserative Morality
12-09-2008, 11:31
Blech, the "All-natural" foods are awful.
Peepelonia
12-09-2008, 12:12
God yeah yuck I have tried it as well

Really? Not the 'Whole Earth' brand, surly coz thats fuckin' lovly.
Rambhutan
12-09-2008, 13:23
Really? Not the 'Whole Earth' brand, surly coz thats fuckin' lovly.

I buy that as well and it is very tasty. None of that shit with palm oil in like Sun Pat.
Brutland and Norden
12-09-2008, 13:25
I eat whole pizzas, whole burgers, and whole plates of pasta. I even ate a whole watermelon, but it took me a few days.
I like this diet. :)