This is disgusting and wrong. - Page 2
Vault 10
08-09-2008, 20:37
That would work too, but works better for Libertarianism than just plain capitalism. :)
So you're OK with economic freedom - capitalism - but not OK with extensive social and political freedoms?
Free United States
08-09-2008, 22:15
"a bar in NY" is not a state actor, thus their behavior is limited only by statute, and may discriminate against any entity, as a matter of law, that the statute does not say they can not.
Ok, I barely understand that. I think it's the double-negative at the end. Anyway, I found a news article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/20/military.discriminationatwork) relating to the UK and discrimination against the military. I know it's not the same, but it's at least something...
Oh, and what's a 'state actor?'
Grave_n_idle
08-09-2008, 23:31
So you're OK with economic freedom - capitalism - but not OK with extensive social and political freedoms?
Nope. Exactly the other way around.
Vault 10
08-09-2008, 23:39
Nope. Exactly the other way around.
But Libertarianism is capitalism + social and political freedoms.
Grave_n_idle
08-09-2008, 23:42
But Libertarianism is capitalism + social and political freedoms.
Under which definitions?
I don't know if it's a whole US thing (Ron Paul's seeming authoritarian bent suggests it might be), or if it's just a Georgian phenomenon - but round here, Libertarian tends to mean conservative politics, and absolute laissez-faire over business.
Libertarianism is unrestricted capitalism. It's all money, no soul.
Knights of Liberty
08-09-2008, 23:43
But Libertarianism is capitalism + social and political freedoms.
So, hes not ok with half of that, hence why hes not a libertarian.
Grave_n_idle
08-09-2008, 23:47
So, hes not ok with half of that, hence why hes not a libertarian.
True, this.
Peepelonia
09-09-2008, 12:12
I tend to agree with what the mother says: it's discrimination. However, I also would like to know exactly why the hotel refuses to rent room to military personnel. I'm under the impression there's a specific reason for it.
Burning places to the ground is ok when you favour lynch mob solutions. There are better, more civilized responses possible to this specific incident.
Yeah me too. Knowing your avarage Brit squaddie and his likeing for acohol based violence, perhaps there are plenty of valid reasons not to have that sort of behaviour in your hotel.