NationStates Jolt Archive

(Yes, other NS'ers seem to do it and me being Mr popular must get in on this)

Where do you think Call to Power should try living? Netherlands? US-lands? Khadgar's closet?

I do not know why this has decided to come up in my life more and more, I guess I am at that age of now or maybe it is the need to steal someone’s job and/or reap a native.

I have already asked a question but also this has also come up recently and it scared me:

Me: so what you doing after you get back from your year in [barren English filled prison that I will leave you to guess]

Lady Y: I guess I should start settling down after that getting a house and stuff sorted out

Me: ****

Are you "settling down" (preferably next to a resource of horses to get chariots for an early rush)? When do normal people think about this? How do I avoid such discussions in future?

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Come to the USA!

A war-torn, disease, hunger and poverty stricken third world country. It will broaden your horizons.

Try my nation
Sumamba Buwhan is ranked 1st in the region and 483rd in the world for Happiest Citizens.

I personally have been thinking of moving to the Netherlands or Canada - but it'll be several years before that happens.

Come to the USA!

but why? (and what part I mean its not like your homogeneous now:confused:)

A war-torn, disease, hunger and poverty stricken third world country. It will broaden your horizons.

Manchester?

I personally have been thinking of moving to the Netherlands or Canada - but it'll be several years before that happens.

so you like getting high I presume :p

For the USA you will not only need a green card, but apparently you're also more or less obliged to own a car. Those are expensive to maintain these days, but if you don't have one in the States, the populace will think you're a halfwit. Public transportation tends to be a viable alternative in most European countries, also it's easier to move to any EU member nation when you already live in one of those.

I've heard it can be very hard to get out of the USA if you don't like it. Something to do with absurd Income tax laws...

As long as your current country isn't on fire or something you might as well stay put.

do you have any job skills that might be an "in" into another country?

what other languages do you speak well?

Are you "settling down" (preferably next to a resource of horses to get chariots for an early rush)? When do normal people think about this? How do I avoid such discussions in future?


Several options:

Become a Hobo, and never lay your hat anywhere.

Avoid any or all commitment(s)

Make a list of absurdly difficult things that you MUST do, before you allow yourself to settle down. Make this list known.



Or just be very vague whenever asked... It's worked for me for years. Could be construed as leading people on though....:rolleyes:

Netherlands? US-lands? Khadgar's closet?
Canada is the most viable choice today, IMHO. It at least doesn't have hot political fights, and retains a degree of freedom.

AND it's an oil exporter.

What are you looking for?

Some people are after middle class suburban affluence with sunshine. Australia is then the obvious destination.

Some are after excitement - New York or, dare I say it, lovely London.

Some freaks head out to Dubai but you really do have to be a freak.

There are lots of opportunities given that you can trample around the EU to your hearts content. Speaking another language helps although there are opportunities to live a very sheltered English speaking life in Spain.

Give us info you great big smellybear

For the USA you will not only need a green card, but apparently you're also more or less obliged to own a car. Those are expensive to maintain these days, but if you don't have one in the States, the populace will think you're a halfwit.
Quite the contrary, they'll think you're a superhero, or at least a marathon athlete.

But it doesn't apply to big cities, or to just living in a city. There is quite a lot of people who live without cars in US, it's just only possible in certain places.


On the flip side, used cars in US can be very cheap, yet still well usable. They'll have poor fuel economy, but gas is ultra-cheap compared to elsewhere - at least twice cheaper than in Europe. And if the car breaks big time, you know what to do.
It's not such a big expense in US to own a car.

so you like getting high I presume :p


Hell yes I do. Plus I just love Europe in so many ways. I felt very at home in the Netherlands especially. Way more so than I ever felt in the U.S.A.

it's easier to move to any EU member nation when you already live in one of those.

yeah the whole walking over and declaring "I live here now, no returns!" is a perk but we can't rule out the colonials without them giving us a show of what they have first

I've heard it can be very hard to get out of the USA if you don't like it. Something to do with absurd Income tax laws...

thats the beauty of being able to run away overseas at a moments notice >.>

As long as your current country isn't on fire or something you might as well stay put.

yeah but I may as well give it a go before I have some bratty kids tying me down or something

have you traveled much? Is there any place that you are drawn to?

I hear there be dragons in Asia, try there.

Ghana. Beautiful, but poor. The people are so kind there. Just don't drink out of taps, or eat anything even slightly wet.

What kind of experience are you looking for?

do you have any job skills that might be an "in" into another country?

my CV is more of an "experienced" thing though in about 6 months-ish I will be a certified childcare provider so that might be something :confused:

but I figure job prospects will be grunt work for new immigrants?

what other languages do you speak well?

none.

however I speak the English tongue which allows for most of educated Europe as long as I'm studying the language at local collages (looking at the Netherlands in particular where English is apparently taught in higher education anyway:eek:)

Become a Hobo, and never lay your hat anywhere.

will there be lying in a gutter?

Make a list of absurdly difficult things that you MUST do, before you allow yourself to settle down. Make this list known.

Me: I must avenge my fathers death!
Voice of reason: but hes not dead?
Me: so the pod people have got to you too

Give us info you great big smellybear

well:

1) I'm first of all looking for some adventure not just some English slum in tourist trap land

2) friendly locals would be nice so a good place would be somewhere with a real identity to it if you know what I mean

3) I tend to lean more to a city life rather than the wicker man

4) not living in absolute poverty would be nice

really the idea is you guys sell me stuff because I'm more dreaming at the moment and hoping you would know me enough by now :tongue:

Hell yes I do. Plus I just love Europe in so many ways. I felt very at home in the Netherlands especially. Way more so than I ever felt in the U.S.A.

explain at home? it does look nice from the pics but what is the place like?

(Yes, other NS'ers seem to do it and me being Mr popular must get in on this)

Where do you think Call to Power should try living? Netherlands? US-lands? Khadgar's closet?

I do not know why this has decided to come up in my life more and more, I guess I am at that age of now or maybe it is the need to steal someone’s job and/or reap a native.

I have already asked a question but also this has also come up recently and it scared me:

Me: so what you doing after you get back from your year in [barren English filled prison that I will leave you to guess]

Lady Y: I guess I should start settling down after that getting a house and stuff sorted out

Me: ****

Are you "settling down" (preferably next to a resource of horses to get chariots for an early rush)? When do normal people think about this? How do I avoid such discussions in future?

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Come to the US. More specifically, come to Colorado. We have everything (except the ocean, that's a couple of thousand miles away). We have mountains for skiing, sledding and snowboarding, the prairies for tornadoes. We have Denver for sports and cultural events, we have Colorado Springs for the military and conservative Christians. Go to Boulder if you want a dose of liberal California. Brits settled here a bit ago, so there are places that have a distinctive (if Americanized) British flavor. There are horses, dogs, cats, alpacas, deer in the back yard, a robin in right field, wolves and coyotes. There are Native Americans (excuse me, Neesika, First Nations), casinos, lakes, rivers, trees, deserts. There are some decent universities, passable architecture, and scenery. We have it all (almost).

my CV is more of an "experienced" thing though in about 6 months-ish I will be a certified childcare provider so that might be something :confused:


ohhhhhhhh you should start looking for listings of families that want an english speaking "nanny" for the kids. choose by who it is and where they live.

have you traveled much? Is there any place that you are drawn to?

I'd say I'm well traveled but have never spent more than six months abroad so read what you will as far as setting roots is concerned

however out of the places I've been I absolutely loved Berlin albeit the unemployment is rather scary at the moment making such a move rather risky

Ghana. Beautiful, but poor. The people are so kind there. Just don't drink out of taps, or eat anything even slightly wet.

hmm that does sound cozy but finding a job and stability might be tough especially with an agriculture dominated industry (maybe I could use the British skills at management?)

ohhhhhhhh you should start looking for listings of families that want an english speaking "nanny" for the kids. choose by who it is and where they live.

You think there is a market for English male nannies? I think many would be put off by the fact he is male. Stereotypes are hard to overcome.

You think there is a market for English male nannies? I think many would be put off by the fact he is male. Stereotypes are hard to overcome.

He could get a job at a day-care center. They pay reasonably well and have insurance plans. They generally have education requirements for caregivers and vet them thoroughly. They also have a need for male caregivers because a lot of the kids come from single-mom families and a good male example is needed.

Just go and live in northern France.

I'm convinced that everyone secretly wants to live in northern France, even if they haven't realised it yet.

Have you considered Texas? :p

A war-torn, disease, hunger and poverty stricken third world country. It will broaden your horizons.

Or you could just go to a place that has clean running water and you won't catch malaria just when you get off the puddle jumper aircraft that's being held together by duct tape.

I'd go with the Philippines myself.

explain at home? it does look nice from the pics but what is the place like?

I just felt like I belonged in Europe during both of my visits, and didn't matter if I was in France, Belgium, The Netherlands or England. I grew up in small towns and large cities in the US and was never really all that comfortable.

I seem to connect with the way the cities were laid out - how you could walk everywhere or take public transportation with ease. The people were so nice in the Netherlands especially. I loved the historical architecture and cobblestone streets. I'm a fan of the socialist govt's and whatnot.

Of course I also loved the sex shows and coffeeshops.

Just go and live in northern France.

I'm convinced that everyone secretly wants to live in northern France, even if they haven't realised it yet.


I've heard SO many good things from people who have vacationed there.

He could get a job at a day-care center. They pay reasonably well and have insurance plans. They generally have education requirements for caregivers and vet them thoroughly. They also have a need for male caregivers because a lot of the kids come from single-mom families and a good male example is needed.

Unless one owns the day care center here in the states the pay is generally minimum wage. Forget about the benefits at day care centers. Unless of course you are talking somewhere else outside the US that offers such good pay and benefits.

1) I'm first of all looking for some adventure not just some English slum in tourist trap land

2) friendly locals would be nice so a good place would be somewhere with a real identity to it if you know what I mean

3) I tend to lean more to a city life rather than the wicker man

4) not living in absolute poverty would be nice

really the idea is you guys sell me stuff because I'm more dreaming at the moment and hoping you would know me enough by now :tongue:


Sorry for not keeping up with my call to power homework sir.

That still doesn't quite cover it. Are you looking for a bit of an experience before coming back home? Do you want a new life? Do you want to keep doing your current job or are you up for anything? And do you have any specialist skills or anything?

Just go and live in northern France.

I'm convinced that everyone secretly wants to live in northern France, even if they haven't realised it yet.

Why not Southern France? The weather is so much better.

I'm so excited about my trip to the Philippines and Hong Kong this coming new year. I can't wait to see what they are like. I'm learning Tagalog on the Rosetta Stone program.

I just felt like I belonged in Europe during both of my visits, and didn't matter if I was in France, Belgium, The Netherlands or England. I grew up in small towns and large cities in the US and was never really all that comfortable.

I seem to connect with the way the cities were laid out - how you could walk everywhere or take public transportation with ease. The people were so nice in the Netherlands especially. I loved the historical architecture and cobblestone streets. I'm a fan of the socialist govt's and whatnot.

Of course I also loved the sex shows and coffeeshops.

I understand the feeling; where you were born and grew up is not always where you belong. I'm a native Californian and just never felt like I belonged in California - Northern or Southern. I visited Colorado and felt an instant connection - it's not as drastic as moving from the US to Europe, but the underlying feeling is probably the same.

I've heard SO many good things from people who have vacationed there.

Yup, stayed in Brittany for two weeks a while back, camping just outside a small village, and decided pretty much instantly that I'm going to retire to somewhere in northern France.

I understand the feeling; where you were born and grew up is not always where you belong. I'm a native Californian and just never felt like I belonged in California - Northern or Southern. I visited Colorado and felt an instant connection - it's not as drastic as moving from the US to Europe, but the underlying feeling is probably the same.

Yeah, but to be completely honest, I did sorta get that feeling in Cedar Rapids IA - and I loved Washington and Oregon when I visited. Vancouver was pretty appealing as well.

Why not Southern France? The weather is so much better.

More character.

SNIP

you make convincing what is the work like in Colorado? how much is alcohol (or rather how easy is it for 18 year olds to drink)?

ohhhhhhhh you should start looking for listings of families that want an english speaking "nanny" for the kids. choose by who it is and where they live.

well yeah I could get a job anywhere in the world tbqh especially as a male :p

but that still leaves where the parent should live which still remains (admittadly I could just live in a Billionaires basement for a year and retire to a Kings life in some backwards state)

Yup, stayed in Brittany for two weeks a while back, camping just outside a small village, and decided pretty much instantly that I'm going to retire to somewhere in northern France.

I heard that there are a bunch of large cottages that you can rent really cheaply too. Also, that it's beautiful and peaceful.

But mostly I am distracted by your avatar ;)

You think there is a market for English male nannies? I think many would be put off by the fact he is male. Stereotypes are hard to overcome.

well yeah there is that hitch.

have you ever seen Mrs Doubtfire?

Unless one owns the day care center here in the states the pay is generally minimum wage. Forget about the benefits at day care centers. Unless of course you are talking somewhere else outside the US that offers such good pay and benefits.

they are all sucky pay here too usually putting all staff on an apprenticeship so they can pay below minimum wage :(

That still doesn't quite cover it. Are you looking for a bit of an experience before coming back home? Do you want a new life? Do you want to keep doing your current job or are you up for anything? And do you have any specialist skills or anything?

1) a new life is an idea I certainly can't spend the rest of my life living in Northampton (though moving to Northampton Massachusetts could be funny)

2) I'd say I'm up for anything any specialist skills are rather minimal

Yup, stayed in Brittany for two weeks a while back, camping just outside a small village, and decided pretty much instantly that I'm going to retire to somewhere in northern France.

but does it have all the immigrations restrictions France has in place especially in finding work

1) a new life is an idea I certainly can't spend the rest of my life living in Northampton (though moving to Northampton Massachusetts could be funny)

2) I'd say I'm up for anything any specialist skills are rather minimal


Okay, I've tallied everything up and put it into my special where-to-live computer which supplies me with the ONE place perfect for the person in question. And the result:

The computer crashed. Go and get some qualifications and then think about moving.

The computer crashed. Go and get some qualifications and then think about moving.

aww your no fun :(

You think there is a market for English male nannies? I think many would be put off by the fact he is male. Stereotypes are hard to overcome.
i have no idea but there may be. and its sooo much nicer to live in a properous neighborhood with a well to do family than to try to scrape by at some minimum wage job and find an affordable place to live.

you make convincing what is the work like in Colorado? how much is alcohol (or rather how easy is it for 18 year olds to drink)?



well yeah I could get a job anywhere in the world tbqh especially as a male :p

but that still leaves where the parent should live which still remains (admittadly I could just live in a Billionaires basement for a year and retire to a Kings life in some backwards state)
you must have SOME reason to be getting child care credentials. did you think it through at all?

aww your no fun :(
you cant move to the US because you cant work here. you would need a special qualification like a nursing degree, marriage to a US citizen, or some employer willing to sponsor you as some kind of necessary employee that he cant seem to find locally.

you cant move to the US because you cant work here. you would need a special qualification like a nursing degree, marriage to a US citizen, or some employer willing to sponsor you as some kind of necessary employee that he cant seem to find locally.

He could always try to enter the country illegally...

He could always try to enter the country illegally...
oh he can enter legally, no problem. all he needs is his UK passport and he can stay here 3 months with a 3 month automatic extension if he requests it.

but he cant work here legally and cant stay longer than that.

but if he's good at landscaping work or roofing work he can probably get lots of day work. it sort of sucks to be in the US without health insurance though.

oh he can enter legally, no problem. all he needs is his UK passport and he can stay here 3 months with a 3 month automatic extension if he requests it.

but he cant work here legally and cant stay longer than that.

but if he's good at landscaping work or roofing work he can probably get lots of day work. it sort of sucks to be in the US without health insurance though.

If you're healthy you don't need to worry about it.

i have no idea but there may be. and its sooo much nicer to live in a properous neighborhood with a well to do family than to try to scrape by at some minimum wage job and find an affordable place to live.

this.

easy way to make large sums of money in 6 months work and a great ability for travel

you must have SOME reason to be getting child care credentials. did you think it through at all?

its something you can fall back on and always have employment

sort of like a HGV license only less pay

you cant move to the US because you cant work here. you would need a special qualification like a nursing degree, marriage to a US citizen, or some employer willing to sponsor you as some kind of necessary employee that he cant seem to find locally.

so much your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free :p

[QUOTE=Call to power;13987177]you make convincing what is the work like in Colorado? how much is alcohol (or rather how easy is it for 18 year olds to drink)?



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I'm afraid the law in Colorado is pretty much the same as it is everywhere in the US; drinking when under the age of 21 is illegal and it's illegal for anyone over 21 to provide alcohol to those under 21. I find it pretty silly myself.

Work is pretty much like anywhere else in the US. Gas is cheap(er) - we/re at $3.55/gal right now. The cost of living isn't bad, housing is relatively inexpensive, and I can get by on less than $200/mo for food. Utilities are not expensive, especially compared to California.

There's good and bad, but, to me, the good far outweighs the bad. So you won't be able to drink legally until you're 21, I think the variety of things to do here and the educational and social opportunities more than compensate.

I might add that Colorado has the lowest obesity rate in the country and one of the highest fitness rates just because the outdoor lifestyle is so attractive.

this.

easy way to make large sums of money in 6 months work and a great ability for travel



its something you can fall back on and always have employment

sort of like a HGV license only less pay



so much your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free :p
we gave that up long ago.

but we have a nice lottery that you can sign up for that will give you a green card if you "win"

]you make convincing what is the work like in Colorado? how much is alcohol (or rather how easy is it for 18 year olds to drink)?



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I'm afraid the law in Colorado is pretty much the same as it is everywhere in the US; drinking when under the age of 21 is illegal and it's illegal for anyone over 21 to provide alcohol to those under 21. I find it pretty silly myself.

Work is pretty much like anywhere else in the US. Gas is cheap(er) - we/re at $3.55/gal right now. The cost of living isn't bad, housing is relatively inexpensive, and I can get by on less than $200/mo for food. Utilities are not expensive, especially compared to California.

There's good and bad, but, to me, the good far outweighs the bad. So you won't be able to drink legally until you're 21, I think the variety of things to do here and the educational and social opportunities more than compensate.

I might add that Colorado has the lowest obesity rate in the country and one of the highest fitness rates just because the outdoor lifestyle is so attractive.
colorado is a fabulous place to live. so many great locations. so many cool people

it helps to like the outdoors.

What about Tonga just for ability to say that you have lived in Tonga

Costa rica.

it's so beautiful <3

Colorado Springs for the military and conservative Christians

I hated being stationed in the Springs. Damn, how that town sucks. Also, I need grass, tress and water to survive properly and the Front Range have none of those. Landing in the Springs was the first time I'd seen any sort of desert, and I hate it.

Just go and live in northern France.

I'm convinced that everyone secretly wants to live in northern France, even if they haven't realised it yet.

I lived in Angers for six months and it was wonderful. If I'd been able to I would have stayed.

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Me: so what you doing after you get back from your year in [barren English filled prison that I will leave you to guess]

Australia?

I hated being stationed in the Springs. Damn, how that town sucks. Also, I need grass, tress and water to survive properly and the Front Range have none of those. Landing in the Springs was the first time I'd seen any sort of desert, and I hate it.

I lived in Angers for six months and it was wonderful. If I'd been able to I would have stayed.

What part of the Springs were you in? I'm up by the Air Force Academy, just off Academy. I have a beautiful stand of pine and oak in back of my townhome, Pike's Peak and Cheyenne Mt. are close by. It's green and tree-filled.

Of course, I grew up in a semi-arid area and lived in the "Inland Empire" of Southern California so none of this seems remotely like desert to me.

What part of the Springs were you in? I'm up by the Air Force Academy, just off Academy. I have a beautiful stand of pine and oak in back of my townhome, Pike's Peak and Cheyenne Mt. are close by. It's green and tree-filled.

Of course, I grew up in a semi-arid area and lived in the "Inland Empire" of Southern California so none of this seems remotely like desert to me.

I was stationed at Fort Carson, although I hung out all over town.

One thing I did like about the Springs was this French bakery (run by Germans, of all people) on the north end of Academy. I used to go there for breakfast every day.

I grew up in lower Michigan, which is almost entirely forest outside of the largest cities, so anywhere where it's dry enough for dust to blow around is a desert to me.

Not that the Springs is brown and dry and nasty all the time, it's nice in the summer, but the rest of the year it's rather bleh.

come to the US. Girls here go nuts over any UK accent you will likely get laid non stop here.
House food and taxes are all much less then most places in Europe. and hurry up and convert you currency lest the dollar climbs any more.

you cant move to the US because you cant work here. you would need a special qualification like a nursing degree, marriage to a US citizen, or some employer willing to sponsor you as some kind of necessary employee that he cant seem to find locally.

Hmm I sense a money making opportunity here for you. How much do they pay for fake marriages now days?

you cant move to the US because you cant work here. you would need a special qualification like a nursing degree, marriage to a US citizen, or some employer willing to sponsor you as some kind of necessary employee that he cant seem to find locally.

For western Europeans fluent in English it is pretty easy to get work visas and residency. And citizenship if they can pass a Us history test they likely learned in their High schools.(after 2 years living here I think)

For western Europeans fluent in English it is pretty easy to get work visas and residency. And citizenship if they can pass a Us history test they likely learned in their High schools.(after 2 years living here I think)

Wrong, wrong and a slice of wrong.

If you are wanting to do this for 'the experience' then I recommend that you look further afield than Europe, and also avoid the USA - these are too similar to the UK to make the experience worth the problems.

Africa, Asia and maybe South America seem like good ideas, with South America being more difficult due to your lack of language skills.

So Singapore, Hong Kong, Kenya are places that come to mind as being exotic but English speaking. There is also New Zealand, but that may be too British.

But mostly I am distracted by your avatar ;)

I aim to please ;)

but does it have all the immigrations restrictions France has in place especially in finding work

It's in the EU, what restrictions could they have on an EU citizen?

It's in the EU, what restrictions could they have on an EU citizen?

your restricted from lots of work if you can't speak French (well you are anyway but only their are laws in place to stop you now)

Philadelphia.

Costa rica.

it's so beautiful <3

Damn right. Closest place to paradise on earth.

your restricted from lots of work if you can't speak French (well you are anyway but only their are laws in place to stop you now)

Then learn to speak French!

Thankfully I can, makes going to France a lot easier.

For western Europeans fluent in English it is pretty easy to get work visas and residency. And citizenship if they can pass a Us history test they likely learned in their High schools.(after 2 years living here I think)
if he had a nursing degree, US hospitals would already have tried recruiting him.

there are other high demand professions but i dont know what they are.

i think there may also be a "if you bring in a boat load of money" exemption (something like $1million). im not sure of that either but canada had one from before hongkong was returned back to the chinese and rich-ish hongkongers werent inclined to gamble on the kindness of their future chinese overlords. we were jealous that canada got all the best rich guys.

i guess if i were CtP id try to save up a bunch of money, get some specific skills, and go to australia or new zealand.