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So the Met Police have realised a Crime Map which allows you to see the amount of crime in your area...if you live in London. My borough is average and the actual area. Well I was surprised to find that in the past two years only 9 crimes have been reported.

http://maps.met.police.uk/

So do you think other police forces will do this?

Bwhahahaha!! :D :eek:

I just entered the postcode for 10 Downing Street -- SW1A 2AB

My area's crime rate is above average ;_; but my sub ward is average! :)

A priori, I'd say there was a danger that people will buy houses on the basis of this kind of map, where they can afford to, and that it'll lead to differences being even more starkly accentuated. But, having looked at the map, Westminster has the highest crime rate but is quite a nice area, in places, to live, so I guess it's more something for curiosity than anything.

Ward results:

Drugs Offences (Per 1000 Population) -
Ward: 107.
Met total: 9.5

CHAMPIONES

Can you tell I live in Camden?

Bwhahahaha!! :D :eek:

I just entered the postcode for 10 Downing Street -- SW1A 2AB

I wonder why Westminster is a high crime area? But isn't that area where most of the tourists be hanging around?

I wonder why Westminster is a high crime area? But isn't that area where most of the tourists be hanging around?

Hence all the criminals who prey on tourists hang around there! Plus there is a huge homelessness issue and drugs problem, that the local Tory borough council ignores and hence does not fund any initiatives to get rid of them(source: my friend who works for them, and was trying to get funding for the drugs and alcohol strategy)

Actually, it's more to do with the fact that so many people pass through. More people = more crime.

Ward results:

Drugs Offences (Per 1000 Population) -
Ward: 107.
Met total: 9.5

CHAMPIONES

Can you tell I live in Camden?

I wish I lived in Camden... Oh well I'm okay where I am.

Hence all the criminals who prey on tourists hang around there! Plus there is a huge homelessness issue and drugs problem, that the local Tory borough council ignores and hence does not fund any initiatives to get rid of them(source: my friend who works for them, and was trying to get funding for the drugs and alcohol strategy)

BS... it's the presence of so many politicians in such little space!

BS... it's the presence of so many politicians in such little space!This is what I thought, and was peeved when no one laughed with me :/

I just looked at the sub-ward stats. It's purrty bad.
No. of Crimes Crime rate
Sub Ward 32 22.42
St James's 89 10.28
Westminster 689 3.80

Oh, and on a scary note. 11.6% of all homophobic crime in the capital happens in Westminster and is up from last year.

Oh, one thing that stuck my mind is these stats are totals and nor per capita. Hmm....

So the Met Police have realised a Crime Map which allows you to see the amount of crime in your area...if you live in London. My borough is average and the actual area. Well I was surprised to find that in the past two years only 9 crimes have been reported.

http://maps.met.police.uk/

So do you think other police forces will do this?

It's not a bad idea... Props to the London Police Force.

I don't think it would fly here in America because a lot of minorities and leftists would complain that the map is designed to target low income areas and call it racist. The neo-cons will start babbling on and on about how liberals don't take law enforcement seriously and how this program should be expanded upon so the government can track individual people wherever they go. Then the ACLU would go to the Supreme Court over it and regardless of which side wins the case it will still be yet another point of meaningless bickering between the Republicans and Democrats. I suppose it is a better issue than people complaining about oil prices while they cruise around in massive SUVs.

It's not a bad idea... Props to the London Police Force.

I don't think it would fly here in America because a lot of minorities and leftists would complain that the map is designed to target low income areas and call it racist. The neo-cons will start babbling on and on about how liberals don't take law enforcement seriously and how this program should be expanded upon so the government can track individual people wherever they go. Then the ACLU would go to the Supreme Court over it and regardless of which side wins the case it will still be yet another point of meaningless bickering between the Republicans and Democrats. I suppose it is a better issue than people complaining about oil prices while they cruise around in massive SUVs.

Actually I believe it is a technique pioneered in New York, at least according to the BBC

My city does this, but you can put in your postal code and it will show you how many crimes within a mile radius, where they were specifically and what crime was committed.

A small anecdote from my recent move. I just this past weekend moved from my old apartment in Boston, to a place in Brookline, which, for all intent and purpose, is just a neighborhood of Boston, but from a legal perspective is a seperate legal entity, with its own infrastructure and police.

Now I loved in a fairly decent neighborhood of Boston before, but since it was Boston, it was covered by the same police force that covered areas like Roxbury, Mission Hill, and other not so hot areas, so the Boston police department had its hands full...when it wasn't beatting confessions out of people..

Anyway so as I left my apartment to run some errands around the new neighborhood I walk past the local Trader Joe's (a sort of health food/organic supermarket) and see someone directing traffic in and out of the lot. I walk past, do a double take, turn around, and sure enough, instead of just a security guard, she was actual Brookline PD.

You know you live in a weird neighborhood when the cops have nothing better to do than direct traffic in and out of the Trader Joe's

People aren't going to buy houses with this thing for many reasons

1. At the moment no-ones buying houses
2. Rich and well to do areas have higher crime simply because they have stuff worth stealing. Move to a low crime area and
a. It will be a dump
b. Crime will follow you

How big is a borough in London? That's amazingly few crimes.

Hard to imagine that big cities in the U.S. would start doing this. I can't even imagine how long it would take to log in all the data... I don't even think we have a map of murders, let alone robberies and the like.

How big is a borough in London? That's amazingly few crimes.

If memory serves, about 2ish square miles on average or so.

How big is a borough in London? That's amazingly few crimes.

Hard to imagine that big cities in the U.S. would start doing this. I can't even imagine how long it would take to log in all the data... I don't even think we have a map of murders, let alone robberies and the like.It varies from Borough to Borough. Some have as few as 150,000 residents (not including the City of London [8,000]) and some as many as 350,000.

If memory serves, about 2ish square miles on average or so.Heh, I like how we both had different interpretations of what was meant by 'how big'.

Okay, so I was totally wrong, there is a crime map for my city! Since the start of the year there have been 20 crimes in my immediate neighborhood--1 assault, 1 arson (?) and 18 burglaries.

Heh, I like how we both had different interpretations of what was meant by 'how big'.

although, in retrospect, yours was almost certainly the correct one.

edit: and wait, people actually live in City of London proper? I thought it was mostly offices and financial stuff. Not that I spent much time in the "square mile" when I was in the city.

It varies from Borough to Borough. Some have as few as 150,000 residents (not including the City of London [8,000]) and some as many as 350,000.

DAMN. You mean to tell me that in Londim's borough there could be 100,000+ people and only 9 crimes in TWO YEARS?

although, in retrospect, yours was almost certainly the correct one.

edit: and wait, people actually live in City of London proper? I thought it was mostly offices and financial stuff. Not that I spent much time in the "square mile" when I was in the city.It's not very populated. Other Boroughs at least 3 times as densely populated. My little PDF that I found says only 10% of people in the City of London are under 21, whilst 75% are of working age.

It's not very populated. Other Boroughs at least 3 times as densely populated. My little PDF that I found says only 10% of people in the City of London are under 21, whilst 75% are of working age.

fair enough, even still, I'm surprised that many actually live in the actual London area.

It's scary to think Hackney has 100 or so crimes less then Westminster.

It's scary to think Hackney has 100 or so crimes less then Westminster.
No its not. Westminster is full of MPs

I'd like to just say lol, but apparently I'm not allowed to do that.

DAMN. You mean to tell me that in Londim's borough there could be 100,000+ people and only 9 crimes in TWO YEARS?

Yes though I fear the crime rate will rise.

Yes though I fear the crime rate will rise.

Dude. There are 100,000 people in Richmond and 30-40 murders per year. There are 420,000 people in Oakland and there have been 147 crimes reported in the last week. There have been 7 shootings in my city so far this year, which is ridiculously safe and middle class!

Dude. There are 100,000 people in Richmond and 30-40 murders per year. There are 420,000 people in Oakland and there have been 147 crimes reported in the last week. There have been 7 shootings in my city so far this year, which is ridiculously safe and middle class!

Well obviously the answer is...You move to London.

Dude. There are 100,000 people in Richmond and 30-40 murders per year. There are 420,000 people in Oakland and there have been 147 crimes reported in the last week. There have been 7 shootings in my city so far this year, which is ridiculously safe and middle class!

crime rate in my city

City Population: 521,681

Murder: 49
Forcible Rape: 365
Robbery: 1,381
Aggravated Assault: 2,847
Burglary: 8,300
Larceny or Theft: 35,367
Car Theft: 3,928
Arson: 208

crime rate in my city

City Population: 521,681

Murder: 49
Forcible Rape: 365
Robbery: 1,381
Aggravated Assault: 2,847
Burglary: 8,300
Larceny or Theft: 35,367
Car Theft: 3,928
Arson: 208

:( At least you live in a "nicer" neighborhood now? Ish?

The arson stats always get me. I had no idea so many people were lighting shit on fire in my city.

Well obviously the answer is...You move to London.

i love how Rich Hall says... (to paraphrase badly - i can't find a clip)

"people are always telling me to be careful in London - its scary. they say you might get mugged, they might have a knife. a knife? where i come from that's quaint. i'd probably pull out a camera and ask the guy to stab me for a photo"


but yeah, i'd like to have this info for my city. i found a little something on upmystreet.com, but its not that comprehensive


Southampton England avg
Population 222,000.0 --
Households 94,000.0 --
Violence against the person 38.4 16.7
Robbery offences 2.0 1.2
Theft of a motor vehicle offences 4.7 2.9
Sexual offences 2.3 0.9
Burglary dwelling offences 3.9 4.3
Theft from a vehicle offences 17.4 7.6

Crime statistics are per 1,000 of the population within the local authority area.


we're not so bad for burglaries! yay! :$

Ward results:

Drugs Offences (Per 1000 Population) -
Ward: 107.
Met total: 9.5

CHAMPIONES

Can you tell I live in Camden?
lol!

*whispers* skunk?

DAMN. You mean to tell me that in Londim's borough there could be 100,000+ people and only 9 crimes in TWO YEARS?I think Londim might have got his figures mixed up or is talking about a ward or sub-ward as opposed to a borough. The lowest number of crimes in any borough in the past year was 139, which gave a crime rate of 0.94 crimes per 1,000 residents.

I would love to see one of these for New York City and then other major cities in the US. It's very cool. Great post.

I would love to see one of these for New York City and then other major cities in the US. It's very cool. Great post.

SpotCrime.com (http://www.spotcrime.com/)

NYC map (http://www.spotcrime.com/ny/new+york)

According to this site, there've been 211 shooting in NYC in the past two months. Not all fatalities, of course.

Hence all the criminals who prey on tourists hang around there! Plus there is a huge homelessness issue and drugs problem, that the local Tory borough council ignores and hence does not fund any initiatives to get rid of them(source: my friend who works for them, and was trying to get funding for the drugs and alcohol strategy)

Yeah my thoughts exactly, as for the drugs shame they are not doing anything about it.

This is what I thought, and was peeved when no one laughed with me :/

I laughed with you, I just didn't display it on the forum

Oh, one thing that stuck my mind is these stats are totals and nor per capita. Hmm....

Yes, a bit skewed then.

lol!

*whispers* skunk?

And to think if the Police properly enforced drug laws there could be more drug arrests than people. They stand metres away from those guys who sell drugs like you'd sell the big issue. "Skunk? Skunk. Skunk. Skunk?.... Skunk". I think the officers involved like to pretend they're watching the guy do beat poetry.

I wish I lived in Camden... Oh well I'm okay where I am.

Hmmm. Skunk. Camden's skunk. I quite like it here. Skunk. Very interesting but also convenient. Skunk skunk. Where do you live? Skunkity skunkity skunk

I think Londim might have got his figures mixed up or is talking about a ward or sub-ward as opposed to a borough. The lowest number of crimes in any borough in the past year was 139, which gave a crime rate of 0.94 crimes per 1,000 residents.

Oops so I did. 9 crimes in my ward.