NationStates Jolt Archive

USA 2008 Presidential Election ? public Poll is only a one choice Poll, messed up again, lol.

USA Citizen who will you vote for? Non USA Citizen who do you support?

If you are undecided, post it, come back when you are decided post and vote.

01. Republican Sen John McCain, Republican Alaska Governor Sarah Palin ticket.

02. Democrat Sen Barack Obama, Democrat Sen Joe Biden ticket.

03. Libertarian Party, Bob Barr, Wayne Allyn Root ticket.

Former Republican Georgia Rep Bob Barr, Libertarian Party Chairman Wayne Allyn Root.

04. Independent Ecology Party, Natural Law Party, Ralph Nader, Matt Gonzalez ticket.

Lawyer, Consumer advocate Ralph Nader.

Matt Gonzalez, lawyer,former president of San Francisco Board of Supervisors. Narrowly lost 2003 San Francisco Mayoral election 47.20 to 52.80 %.

05. Other Candidates on the ballot.


Wikipedia: Third party candidate tickets for president, vice president respectively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_third_party_presidential_candidates,_2008

03. Libertarian Party, Bob Barr, Wayne Allyn Root ticket.

04. Idependent, Ecology Party, Natural Law Party: Ralph Nader, Matt Gonzalez ticket.

06. Green Party, former Georgia Dem Rep, Cynthia McKinney, Rosa Clemente ticket.

Rosa Clemente, commentator, political activist, community organizer, independent reporter from New York.

07. Constitution party, Charles o Chuck Baldwin, Darrell L Castle ticket.

08. American Idependent Party. Ambassador Diplomat, Former UN Ambassador to Economic and social Council, Alan L Keyes, Wiley Drake ticket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assistant_Secretary_of_State_for_International_Organization_Affairs

09. Socialist Party USA, Brian Moore, Steward Alexander ticket.

10. Socialist Workers Party, Roger Calero, Alyson Kennedy ticket.

Others, ect, ect, ect.

At least my personal view:

Barack Obama the candidate of change you can believe in as his campaign slogan suggests. Its a very clever way to mean everything to all voters. Its just a campaign slogan to get your votes. If Barack Obama becomes president he will be a Liberal president on the economy, a liberal socialist. A leftist on foreign policy. The candidate of change you can believe in will not actually tell you that. For those who wish to vote for a Liberal no problem.

An actual poll might be in order.

myrth!

miami, you forgot to say who you are voting FOR.

There's an election going on in the US? And just who are these mysterious McCain and Obama fellows, I certainly wish someone would tell me more about them.

And just who are these mysterious McCain and Obama fellows, I certainly wish someone would tell me more about them.

obama is a muslim from africa who wants to enslave the white race. mccain, on the other hand, has a strong background in being a shitty pilot whose campaign is centered on a plan to destroy the moon while torturing the fuck out of some kittens.


you know, those aren't actually equally ridiculous. hmmm....

A post in which MS explains his view on the candidates(or rather, just on Barack Obama) with little more than phrases cut and pasted from his previous posts. How shocking!

turing says no dice

I demand a recount!

I am a communist muslim from North Korea and given we've invested a lot of money in Barack Obama's training, he damn well better win or our world domination plans will be set back another 4 years.

Goddammit, how many fucking threads do we need to have essentially the same fucking conversation? This is a UK hosted forum created by an Australian, maybe we could leave at least some room for the rest of the English speakers who don't live in or give a crap about our election?

I've got to say, if Barack Obama IS planning to enslave the white race or turn America over to the communists then frankly he deserves to succeed. At first, second and thirty seventh viewing he appears to be a very moderate, even conservative candidate who is appealing to a broad coalition of interests.
But on that thirty eighth look it all becomes clear.
One may only speculate as to why it is just the incredibly stupid who have been able to see through the past 47 years of wonderfully executed hoaxinz. Also, for his plans to come to fruition, the concept of a Legislative must also be a myth (although given the efforts of the current *Republican* administration, I may be skirting painfully close to the truth)

Actually, that last sentence has reminded me of something - has everyone forgotten what the last eight years have been like? Who liked that? Hands up please. How has McCain signalled he is going to move away from that? Given the amount of people who only ever vote for one party, how has party affiliation come to mean so little? I genuinely don't understand the stupidity of the American public.

miami, you forgot to say who you are voting FOR.

lol. Republicans Sen John McCain, Governor of Alaska Sarah Palin of course.

Lol, Messed up agian, the Public Poll is only one choice, not multi choice.

I decided to proovide a vote space for our non USA Citizen fellow NS Nations.

Barack Obama the candidate of change you can believe in as his campaign slogan suggests. Its a very clever way to mean everything to all voters. Its just a campaign slogan to get your votes. If Barack Obama becomes president he will be a Liberal president on the economy, a liberal socialist. A leftist on foreign policy. The candidate of change you can believe in will not actually tell you that. For those who wish to vote for a Liberal no problem.

You keep saying "Obama is a liberal, but he won't tell you that!" as if it's some sort of revelation, and as if Obama is trying to hide the fact. Do you honestly think there is a significant number of people who Obama has been able to trick into thinking he's a conservative?

obama is a muslim from africa who wants to enslave the white race. mccain, on the other hand, has a strong background in being a shitty pilot whose campaign is centered on a plan to destroy the moon while torturing the fuck out of some kittens.


you know, those aren't actually equally ridiculous. hmmm....
The Moon you say? Well it is about time someone showed those smug Moon Men just whose boss, and the kittens have almost certainly brought their problems on themselves. I shall be voting for this McCain fellow and his "Republican Party" most heartily then.

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Originally Posted by Miami Shores
Barack Obama the candidate of change you can believe in as his campaign slogan suggests. Its a very clever way to mean everything to all voters. Its just a campaign slogan to get your votes. If Barack Obama becomes president he will be a Liberal president on the economy, a liberal socialist. A leftist on foreign policy. The candidate of change you can believe in will not actually tell you that. For those who wish to vote for a Liberal no problem.

You keep saying "Obama is a liberal, but he won't tell you that!" as if it's some sort of revelation, and as if Obama is trying to hide the fact. Do you honestly think there is a significant number of people who Obama has been able to trick into thinking he's a conservative?

Obama has a liberal record. He wont actually campaign on his liberal record. His acceptance speech sounds more Conservative Republican on the economy and foreign policy. His campaign slogan change you can believe in is a very clever way to sound like all things to all voters.


The Moon you say? Well it is about time someone showed those smug Moon Men just whose boss, and the kittens have almost certainly brought their problems on themselves. I shall be voting for this McCain fellow and his "Republican Party" most heartily then.

ok, seriously ms, what's the deal?

i am very happy to be voting for barack obama for president. i think he will do a good job.

Im not a batshit theocrat.


I also dont hate black, poor, or gay people.


Thus, I am voting for Obama. And its not even a lesser of two evils thing. I just love liberal candidates.

Im not a batshit theocrat.


I also dont hate black, poor, or gay people.


Thus, I am voting for Obama. And its not even a lesser of two evils thing. I just love liberal candidates.

Thank you for admitting what the candidate of change Obama you can believe in wont actually tell others. As I have posted before, if you wish to vote for a liberal no problem, that is your right to do so. As is my right not to do so.

As I have posted before, if you wish to vote for a liberal no problem, that is your right to do so. As is my right not to do so.

Thanks for outlining those rights. I'm sure there was a lot of confusion there.

Thank you for admitting what the candidate of change Obama you can believe in wont actually tell others. As I have posted before, if you wish to vote for a liberal no problem, that is your right to do so. As is my right not to do so.

Oh, I actually am frusterated that he wont admit hes liberal.


I dont know why liberal is a dirty word in American politics.



IM A LIBERAL AND PROUD OF IT!!!!!!

I am still on the fence about the whole bit. Something about Obama doesn't sit right with me. However he is a great speaker and enjoy listening to the guy. As for McCain he just seems like he is too old. Reminds me a bit of Reagan's last year in office where his mental abilities really started to drop off. I do however like his VP choice so far. I am waiting to see what happens in October and see what kind of surprises are sprung.

I'm voting for Cynthia McKinney.

I'm voting for Cynthia McKinney.

That is your democratic right to do so. Sorry I had to decide to let our fellow non citizen nations have a vote space on the poll. Cythiia McKinney would have made the 10 options poll. They could have just posted.

Obama has a liberal record. He wont actually campaign on his liberal record. His acceptance speech sounds more Conservative Republican on the economy and foreign policy. His campaign slogan change you can believe in is a very clever way to sound like all things to all voters.

Just so you know, every single point you've brought up is a conservative talk show talking point, although I'm sure you knew that.

It's no big secret that Obama is a liberal. His platform (openly available on his website, for everyone to see) is obviously liberal. His record (openly available on the Internet, for everyone to see) is liberal. When it walks like a duck and talks like a duck everyone knows it's a duck, even if it doesn't walk around saying "I'm a duck! I'm a duck!".

The impression I'm getting from your posts (do feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) is that you think that Obama is attempting to hide the fact that he's a liberal and that he has some secret liberal agenda that he's hiding from the public. You see him as attempting to masquerade as a conservative and feel that you need to inform everyone that he's actually a liberal in disguise.

How far off base am I?

The impression I'm getting from your posts (do feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) is that you think that Obama is attempting to hide the fact that he's a liberal and that he has some secret liberal agenda that he's hiding from the public. You see him as attempting to masquerade as a conservative and feel that you need to inform everyone that he's actually a liberal in disguise.

How far off base am I?

Not very I'd suspect. After all, he did repeatedly point out how it was the whole Elian Gonzalez debacle that has him chugging the Hatorade with regards to Democrats.

Personally Obama is a change. A change from the reign of Bushevism that McCain seems determined to continue.

Just so you know, every single point you've brought up is a conservative talk show talking point, although I'm sure you knew that.

It's no big secret that Obama is a liberal. His platform (openly available on his website, for everyone to see) is obviously liberal. His record (openly available on the Internet, for everyone to see) is liberal. When it walks like a duck and talks like a duck everyone knows it's a duck, even if it doesn't walk around saying "I'm a duck! I'm a duck!".

The impression I'm getting from your posts (do feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) is that you think that Obama is attempting to hide the fact that he's a liberal and that he has some secret liberal agenda that he's hiding from the public. You see him as attempting to masquerade as a conservative and feel that you need to inform everyone that he's actually a liberal in disguise.

How far off base am I?

If it

His acceptance speech sounding like a conservative republican on the economy and foreign policy. his campaign slogan trying to sound like all things to all voters.

If it dosent walk around saying I am a Liberal duck, and it dosent, its a liberal duck.

For those who wish to vote for a Liberal no problem. That is their democratic right to do so.

For those who wish to vote for a Liberal no problem. That is their democratic right to do so.

You keep saying that...is someone disagreeing with that or something?

You don't like Obama's campaign slogan. We all get it. You don't need to keep making threads about it.

You don't like Obama's campaign slogan. We all get it. You don't need to keep making threads about it.

He just doesn't like how Bill Clinton didn't kiss Exile Ass and kept Elian here in the U.S. away from his father. The rant on Obama is a thinly veiled cover.

His acceptance speech sounding like a conservative republican on the economy and foreign policy.

I think you're confused about what being a Republican or Democrat actually means.

his campaign slogan trying to sound like all things to all voters.

So? That's what politicians do. I think you'll find, as you see more elections come and go, that this is the norm.

If it dosent walk around saying I am a Liberal duck, and it dosent, its a liberal duck.

I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here. Is there any way you could reword it for me?

For those who wish to vote for a Liberal no problem. That is their democratic right to do so.

I'm also confused as to why you're even making this statement. It seems to me just as redundant and self-evident as saying that anyone who wants to shop at K-Mart instead of Wal-Mart is allowed to.

Barack Obama the candidate of change you can believe in as his campaign slogan suggests. Its a very clever way to mean everything to all voters. Its just a campaign slogan to get your votes.
That's all campaign slogans are for, it's hardly groundbreaking.


If Barack Obama becomes president he will be a Liberal president on the economy, a liberal socialist. A leftist on foreign policy. The candidate of change you can believe in will not actually tell you that. For those who wish to vote for a Liberal no problem.
A liberal yes (though I suspect you're misusing the word Liberal in relation to the economy), but I'm not seeing the socialist bit, what is a 'liberal socialist' precisely and how is Obama one?

I'm voting for a candidate that I most feel will give me change.

Hopefully $1000, more or less. :D