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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080902/od_nm/putin_tiger_dc_1

Thoughts?

He didn't tear off his top to reveal his greased muscular torso before wrestling the tiger to the ground and eating it's heart for strength?

Staged.

Staged.

It does seem that way. He just happened to grab the tranqulizer gun and shoot. Didn't let the professional do it? And the tiger escaped just as Putin showed up?

Wish the television crew got it on film.

He didn't tear off his top to reveal his greased muscular torso before wrestling the tiger to the ground and eating it's heart for strength?

He's too cool for that, he understands that sometimes going overkill is without honour.

And how long does it take for a tranquilizer dart to have an effect on a (moving) tiger?

He's too cool for that, he understands that sometimes going overkill is without honour.

Bah, then he's not a true Russian leader.

All true Russian leaders understand that overkill is part of the job description. Stalin overkilled 25 million people for gods sake.

Staged.

Yeah, I think so too.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080902/od_nm/putin_tiger_dc_1

Thoughts?

Truly, this gives Putin a claim to badassery that few other world leaders can touch. Plus, he tranquilized the tiger instead of killing it, so he shows strength without appearing cruel. It's a story so good that it bears the faint possibility of actually being true.

Considering he survived and prospered in the KGB, has become president and prime minister of Russia, I would expect him to have some degree of combat wherewithal... So why not?

Staged.

You doubt the baddassery of Putin! :eek2:

Feel free to call me an idiot, but when I clicked on the link I was thinking "Palin"

DAMN YOU AMERICAN POLITICS! (And yes, I am American.)

PUTIN SMASH!!!

Yeah, but you realize that if Bush saved an orphanage from a band of bloodthirsty tigers, people would be outraged that he killed wildlife.

Bah, then he's not a true Russian leader.

All true Russian leaders understand that overkill is part of the job description. Stalin overkilled 25 million people for gods sake.

A true Russian? Maybe not, but a true badass!? Hell yeah.

Doubt it actually happened. The Ruskies seem a bit poor at this "making stuff up" business compared to North Korea. I haven't heard that Putin's done a 38 under par round of golf, for example.

Another vote for "staged" by me.

Yeah, but you realize that if Bush saved an orphanage from a band of bloodthirsty tigers, people would be outraged that he killed wildlife.

Not if he didn't kill the tigers. This sort of thing should happen more often, if only to include an interesting extra line in the CIA World Factbook: "Number of Tigers Faced Down by National Leader:"

You could further subdivide that into Metaphorical Tigers and Actual Tigers.

A true Russian? Maybe not, but a true badass!? Hell yeah.

If it was true Russian badass then if would have been a bear.

Putin is a pussy taking on a tiger.

Another vote for "staged" by me.

Count one more. It's incredibly obvious.

PUTIN SMASH!!!

Yeah, but you realize that if Bush saved an orphanage from a band of bloodthirsty tigers, people would be outraged that he killed wildlife.

Of course.

To all you deniers, I'm calling prejudice against Russia!

You doubt the baddassery of Putin! :eek2:

Of course - he hasn't sent me any chocolate yet!

*Shakes fist at Putin*

Baby don't hurt me... Don't hurt me... No more... :(

BABUSHKA!

To all you deniers, I'm calling prejudice against Russia!

Because they're all lazy former commie bastards! (Kudos for those who get the joke)

Hey, until he writes six operas in the span of two years, he doesn't hold a candle to Kim Jong Il. That guy is a goddamned genius.

I don't know why everyone is claiming it was staged; he is former KGB, he should have some sort of gun training, he probably could have made the shot...

I don't know why everyone is claiming it was staged; he is former KGB, he should have some sort of gun training, he probably could have made the shot...

Because to me, it sounds too much like propaganda. It'd be like GWB saving a baby from a bear.

Because to me, it sounds too much like propaganda. It'd be like GWB saving a baby from a bear.

Real events could be used for propaganda purposes if it's wanted; it's not like they said he did anything a person trained in guns couldn't do.

Real events could be used for propaganda purposes if it's wanted; it's not like they said he did anything a person trained in guns couldn't do.

Yea, true. But still, I can't explain it, but it just feels staged to me.

Yea, true. But still, I can't explain it, but it just feels staged to me.

Dunno, it feels bit too convoluted to be staged.

I mean, who would believe such a story?

If McCain did something like this, I might actually vote for him :P

Its almost as crazy as a pretzel almost killing The President of the United States...

PUTIN SMASH!!!

Yeah, but you realize that if Bush saved an orphanage from a band of bloodthirsty tigers, people would be outraged that he killed wildlife.

The biggest flaw in that statement is the presuption that Dubya would save an orphanage in the first place.

:p

I wonder what George Bush could do to top this. Maybe stop a freight train from hitting a small child, or making all the snakes leave North America.

well he is a judo master >.>

Putin is Russia's Rambo.

I hope it's staged. Otherwise, we're doomed.

I'm undecided. Could have been staged, could be real. Putin is both capable of staging this and of doing the real thing.

I hope it's staged. Otherwise, we're doomed.

I'm undecided. Could have been staged, could be real. Putin is both capable of staging this and of doing the real thing.

And that's the power of staging things that are plausible. The mere fact of their plausibility is enough to carry the message.

If it's not staged...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/CrowningMoment/RealLife

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IZ BAADAZZ

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/3/24/iizsovietdefe128508780583750000.jpg

IZ BAADAZZ

I hate to say it, but Putin looks a lot better when he's hunting than when Cheney is.

I hate to say it, but Putin looks a lot better when he's hunting than when Cheney is.

That's because Putin is an evil Kung-Fu Judo Master.

Cheney is an evil extra-mayonnaise cheeseburger master.

Okay, got very confused.

He helped measure the Amur tiger's incisors before placing a satellite transmitter around the neck of the beast, which can weigh up to 450 kg (1,000 lb) and measure around ten feetI thought it was the transmitter that weighed 450kg. I was thinking "I know Russian technology is a bit antiquated, but I didn't know it was that shit"

I'm voting staged unless a video shows up. To not produce something on tape of your Prime Minister pulling some Rambo shit when a television crew was seemingly in the middle of rolling is extremely suspect.

I hate to say it, but Putin looks a lot better when he's hunting than when Cheney is.

What's better than shooting a lawyer?

That's because Putin is an evil Kung-Fu Judo Master.

Cheney is an evil extra-mayonnaise cheeseburger master.

Cheney is the master of Friendly Fire.

Clearly this means we need to get Vlad and Dick all buddy-buddy until they decide to go on a hunting trip together.

The rest, is history.

Pfft, tranquilizers? Real men reach into the lion's maw and pull out it's tongue.

http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/News/0,,2-11-1447_1725526,00.html

I'm voting staged unless a video shows up. To not produce something on tape of your Prime Minister pulling some Rambo shit when a television crew was seemingly in the middle of rolling is extremely suspect.

To be fair, the story does say the television crew was busy running for their lives at the time.

A tranq gun? What, was he out of polonium or something?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080902/od_nm/putin_tiger_dc_1

Thoughts?
Eh, Putin is a cool guy, fighting Siberian tigers and doesn't afraid of anything.

(also he led the KGB in East Germany and looks like someone who's probably killed people with his bare hands, so this is not entirely surprising, also doubtless staged).

Putin only shot the tiger for show. Once the tiger realised who he was, it would have given up.

Putin only shot the tiger for show. Once the tiger realised who he was, it would have given up.

That's something I didn't think of. Maybe the tiger wasn't attacking, it was just really excited to meet Putin and get his autograph.

To be fair, the story does say the television crew was busy running for their lives at the time.

See, I more got the impression that they were cornered somewhere, cowering and wetting themselves, when Putin rappelled out of a helicopter and shot the tiger while smoking a cigar menacingly.

I want a Cheny-Putin deathmatch.

I'm voting staged unless a video shows up. To not produce something on tape of your Prime Minister pulling some Rambo shit when a television crew was seemingly in the middle of rolling is extremely suspect.

There was a video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkt5G0uHO0g&feature=related

This is quite clearly not just a piece of propaganda set up to increase moral and public opinion while everyone hates Russia.


EDIT: saw the video, interesting how they never show him shoot.

What tranquiliser did they use?

How quickly does it act when injected intramuscularly?

If it was ketamine (often used on cats) it takes longer than 15 seconds to take effect.

15 seconds is a long time when being attacked by a tiger.

It is possible that it was a fast-acting tranquiliser.

Any large animal vets in the house?

A professor and veterinarian speaking on the TV called it "a cute story, but utter rubbish" because it would take between three and five minutes to knock out a tiger - under optimal circumstances. He also said that only a direct hit to the heart would have a chance of stopping a charging tiger.

A professor and veterinarian speaking on the TV called it "a cute story, but utter rubbish" because it would take between three and five minutes to knock out a tiger - under optimal circumstances. He also said that only a direct hit to the heart would have a chance of stopping a charging tiger.

Clearly this professor is part of the world wide conspiracy to undermine Russia, initiated by Mi6 in response to the alleged polonium poisoning. I'll have you know that polonium is actually a jolly delightful substance that adds a great flavour to your tea, despite the lies that have been spread about it!

If McCain did something like this, I might actually vote for him :P

He already did?

Or does shooting enemy combatants and being locked away as a POW not count?

*sings*He must be like Putin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gncW1zqMFgs

Here's the full video, with the shooting and the attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

Here's the full video, with the shooting and the attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

If only Putin was there with a tranquilizer.

If only.

Here's the full video, with the shooting and the attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

Don't even try it.

Don't even try it.

Had to try. :)

Here's the full video, with the shooting and the attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

I hate you.

I hate you.

And this is why you should double any suspect video links before going to them. There are a few ways that let you check what's in it without actually opening the link.

And this is why you should double any suspect video links before going to them. There are a few ways that let you check what's in it without actually opening the link.

How do I check without opening?

It does seem that way. He just happened to grab the tranqulizer gun and shoot. Didn't let the professional do it? And the tiger escaped just as Putin showed up?

Wish the television crew got it on film.

Is that the official story? If so I ask again, "Is that the 'Official' story?"

How do I check without opening?

Google the link. All will become clear.

Ahhh, satire!


The Russian Prime Minister last night sent a clear message to tigers everywhere not to oppose his policies.
Mr Putin shot the tiger in a disagreement over Russia's regional expansion in the Caucusus. The Tiger was believed to have expressed doubts about the re-establishment of Russian hegemony in former Soviet states, thus provoking the Russian leader to shoot him.

Gotta love Private Eye

Here's the full video, with the shooting and the attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

Obvious ZuuiU is obviously a rickroll. The rickroll, in fact.

Sen John McCain smelled trouble with Russia's Putin. I would rather have a President John McCain than Obama dealing with Russia.

Who would meet with unfriendly world leaders without preconditions. After preparations with conditions. Please, lol.

McCain supports Georgia as a member of Nato and the EU.

Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Poland and Georgia should all be part of Nato and the EU.

No matter what Putin and Russians think the EU is not a military thread to Russia. In fact Russia, a majority European nation, at times has been thought of as a prospect for EU membership itself. Or at least an associated member through certain negotiated treaties. That would be a good thing for both the EU and Russia.

Current official Nato member nations.
01. Belgium
02. Bulgaria
03. Canada
04. Czech Rep
05. Denmark
06. Estonia
07. France
08. Germany
09. Greece
10. Hungary
11. Iceland
12. Italy
13. Latvia
14. Lithuania
15. Luxemburg
16. Netherlands
17. Norway
18. Poland
19. Portugal
20. Romania
21. Slovakia
22. Slovenia
23. Spain
24. Turkey
25. United Kingdom
26. United States

Georgia and the Ukraine are partner nations that should be full Nato members. Even Russia is considered to be a partner nation.

A President John McCain would make one tough bad-ass Comander in Chief.

As well as a honorable decent President. On CNN of all places thier was a democratic strategist who said of John McCain he is an honorable decent man. That said, it still does not mean he supports McCain for president, but at least he said that about John McCain personally. He seemed very sincere about it and not putting on an act. I still do not know the name of this person on CNN. I aluded too in a previous post on another thread, so I cannot provide the name of the democrat person who made the statement.

Even Dona Brazille a democrat who supports Obama said tonight on CNN, she has worked with or knows John McCain said he is a decent honorable man. So I site these sources.

My Job as a supporter of John McCain is to support my candidate to the best of my abilities. Just as it is the job of Obama supporters to support thier candidate and no doubt they do.