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A month or so ago I was chatting with a 30-something year old blokey guy who - I must admit - is a bit of a chauvanist. We were speaking about bisexuality and the fashionability of lesbianism, or as he put it "lipstick lesbians". See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_lesbian
I personally feel that a lot of people are legitimitely homosexual and some are legitimitely bisexual, and some people just like sex full stop. I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring your sexuality and having fun. However, I think there are some younger women who kiss girls because it's...well, "cool".

What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are I hate that damn song.

People need to realize sexuality isn't a binary thing. Feel free to play around with it.

If they genuinely don't find it unpleasant then fair enough, y'know? It's not like I'm going to force anyone to adopt a particular social identity any time they want to kiss someone, regardless of whether they're only doing it on pure pop-culture whim or out of considered interest.

Kissing chicks is awesome. I can see how other chicks would be into it.

I don't know that I'd want to waste a lot of energy presuming other people's motives for things. I'm sure there are plenty of chicks who kiss chicks to be 'interesting.' I don't know that I care that much.

Kissing chicks is awesome. I can see how other chicks would be into it.

I don't know that I'd want to waste a lot of energy presuming other people's motives for things. I'm sure there are plenty of chicks who kiss chicks to be 'interesting.' I don't know that I care that much.

Or to get some of the guys aroused and more into them. But yeah so what.

My thoughts are I hate that damn song.

People need to realize sexuality isn't a binary thing. Feel free to play around with it.

It's not a particularly good song. I think the lyrics to "You're so gay" are kind of funny, though.

But yeah, I agree. I think everyone has the right to play around with it. But I know a lot of people feel differently, so I thought I'd put it out there.

A month or so ago I was chatting with a 30-something year old blokey guy who - I must admit - is a bit of a chauvanist. We were speaking about bisexuality and the fashionability of lesbianism, or as he put it "lipstick lesbians". See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_lesbian
I personally feel that a lot of people are legitimitely homosexual and some are legitimitely bisexual, and some people just like sex full stop. I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring your sexuality and having fun. However, I think there are some younger women who kiss girls because it's...well, "cool".

What are your thoughts?

My thoughts? Meh, whatever!

Even kissing other women because you think it's cool has nothing wrong, I mean, if we are talking about two consensual adults, they can do whatever they want provided it is not extremely harmful or illegal, for whatever reasons they think and agree with it. Be it for true sexual attraction, to look cool, to instill sexual desire upon others, as a show, or for any other reasons. People should be free to do whatever they want, including adopting any kind of stereotype, or being a little bit stupid around.

As with open relationships and casual sex, I think kissing other girls to appear 'interesting' is fine as long as both parties know what that is.

I have to say there was nothing more frustrating as a teenage lesbian than to end up pulling a nice girl only to find out she was only doing it to get her boyfriend (or prospective one) aroused.

I also think it doesn't necessarily help dispell the myth that lesbians can be "turned" by the right guy.

My thoughts? Meh, whatever!My thoughts exactly; down to the punctuation (well, ok, in spirit, anyway).

My thoughts? Meh, whatever!

Well, that really ends the thread there, doesn't it. :p

Well, that really ends the thread there, doesn't it. :p

Meh! A pointless thread anyway. Young people do all sorts of things to look cool, and I guess they always will.

Some bimbo from the courier mail had her say the other week.

As far as I'm concerned, slutty women aren't worth my time. And if it keeps 60% of males occupied whilst I have free range of the others, who am I to complain?

Some bimbo from the courier mail had her say the other week.

As far as I'm concerned, slutty women aren't worth my time. And if it keeps 60% of males occupied whilst I have free range of the others, who am I to complain?

Bimbo from Courier Mail? Do elaborate.

Girls are hawt.

Bimbo from Courier Mail? Do elaborate.

bogan/bimbo/illiterate rambling lunatic. They are all the same from that 'newspaper'

bogan/bimbo/illiterate rambling lunatic. They are all the same from that 'newspaper'

Obviously I meant what did she say.

Obviously I meant what did she say.

Oh, sorry. Give me an inch to yell abuse at the courier mail and I'll take a mile.

She basicaly said it was a an annoying fashion fad and that they are all dirty whores who should be ignored.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24252482-2,00.html

Oh, sorry. Give me an inch to yell abuse at the courier mail and I'll take a mile.

She basicaly said it was a an annoying fashion fad and that they are all dirty whores who should be ignored.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24252482-2,00.html

Oh Amber Petty you were talking about, yeah I have to agree with you I don't remember which paper I begun to read this exact same column (it wasn't The Courier) but I gave up on the first sentence, a shame they decided to hire her for an opinion piece there a lot of other people who are more worthy to write a column.

A month or so ago I was chatting with a 30-something year old blokey guy who - I must admit - is a bit of a chauvanist. We were speaking about bisexuality and the fashionability of lesbianism, or as he put it "lipstick lesbians". See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_lesbian
I personally feel that a lot of people are legitimitely homosexual and some are legitimitely bisexual, and some people just like sex full stop. I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring your sexuality and having fun. However, I think there are some younger women who kiss girls because it's...well, "cool".

What are your thoughts?

Whatever. I'll look, but if they're just doing it to get laid, I'm not buying. (That's what I say, but I'll take whatever I can get)

My thoughts are I hate that damn song.

I concur. I think the reason I hate it the most is that the tune is too catchy. You want to sing along, but then you realize what you're singing and hate yourself for singing it.

A month or so ago I was chatting with a 30-something year old blokey guy who - I must admit - is a bit of a chauvanist. We were speaking about bisexuality and the fashionability of lesbianism, or as he put it "lipstick lesbians". See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_lesbian
I personally feel that a lot of people are legitimitely homosexual and some are legitimitely bisexual, and some people just like sex full stop. I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring your sexuality and having fun. However, I think there are some younger women who kiss girls because it's...well, "cool".

What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are it doesn't really matter why someone is making sexual choices, because it's none of my business.

A month or so ago I was chatting with a 30-something year old blokey guy who - I must admit - is a bit of a chauvanist. We were speaking about bisexuality and the fashionability of lesbianism, or as he put it "lipstick lesbians". See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_lesbian
I personally feel that a lot of people are legitimitely homosexual and some are legitimitely bisexual, and some people just like sex full stop. I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring your sexuality and having fun. However, I think there are some younger women who kiss girls because it's...well, "cool".

What are your thoughts?

I admit that I'm irritated at times by both the girls who kiss for male attention and the people who criticize them for it. Mostly because they both totally cramp my style and interfere with my ability to get laid. Unacceptable.

Seriously, I think people should be free to explore or express whatever sexuality they want, as long as it's truly consensual. As a legitimately bisexual woman I am annoyed at times by the hordes of rail-thin, American Apparel-wearing, Jagerbomb-drinking, barely-legal skanks who take any opportunity to lock lips as long as there's a camera around so they can show how edgy they are on myspace. But I'm annoyed by a great many things in life, and it's my job to get over it, not theirs.

I'm also really annoyed by the people who think that if you're not a butch lesbian with a crew cut and a truck that you must just be pretending to like girls. There's a lot of diversity in any community, including the lesbian/bi community.

I don't like attention whores, male or female. It has nothing to do with their sexuality, just that irritating histrionic mindset that nobody really likes.

I concur. I think the reason I hate it the most is that the tune is too catchy. You want to sing along, but then you realize what you're singing and hate yourself for singing it.

I like the song because its catchy, but it makes me sound like a bi-curious gay man when I sing it.

What's people's opinion on heterosexual men who kiss each other to get the attention of girls?

I bet half the men who are "w00t! hawt!" about girls, would be "yergh! Blergh!"

Bloody double standards!

I don't like attention whores, male or female. It has nothing to do with their sexuality, just that irritating histrionic mindset that nobody really likes.

If no one really liked it it wouldn't exist because it wouldn't work. And we'd all be blissfully unaware of Paris Hilton.

What's people's opinion on heterosexual men who kiss each other to get the attention of girls?

I bet half the men who are "w00t! hawt!" about girls, would be "yergh! Blergh!"

Bloody double standards!

I don't know that that is a double standard as stated that much. They're not really the same thing to the observer. One is two things you're attracted to together (awesome squared) and the other is two things you're not attracted to together (no thanks, squared). If you're not into dudes, there is no way two dudes being intimate in anyway is going to do anything for you. Even if you're into dudes it's not a guarantee. Just like it's not a guarantee that if you're into chicks (as a dude) that you're going to like two chicks doing it.

However, I can totally see how chicks, and I've been in enough chick's dorm rooms and otherwise to know that more than a few feel this way, like dudes kissing each other or in other ways being intimate. I've also heard the "It's different." argument that ends where it begins, that it's different.

No. It's not. Just because you're porn has better lighting doesn't make it better.

There's nothing wrong with it. You like dudes kissing, I don't, no biggy. But I should no longer have to hear the question, "what is it with guys and lesbians." It's the same fucking thing. That, I would say, for some is a double standard.

However, I can totally see how chicks, and I've been in enough chick's dorm rooms and otherwise to know that more than a few feel this way, like dudes kissing each other or in other ways being intimate.

Or summed up in two words: slash fanfiction. There's a reason it exists.

A month or so ago I was chatting with a 30-something year old blokey guy who - I must admit - is a bit of a chauvanist. We were speaking about bisexuality and the fashionability of lesbianism, or as he put it "lipstick lesbians". See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_lesbian
I personally feel that a lot of people are legitimitely homosexual and some are legitimitely bisexual, and some people just like sex full stop. I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring your sexuality and having fun. However, I think there are some younger women who kiss girls because it's...well, "cool".

What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are: a lot of people are idiots.

Some girls kiss girls because they like girls. Some do, because they're curious. Some do just because they do, and it doesn't 'mean' anything. And so do to elicit a reaction from someone - especially from a 'significant other'.

But, what's the big deal? I've seen guys kiss girls for pretty much all those same reasons... so why are we making a special case for girl-on-girl?

There's nothing intrinsically 'fake gay' about kissing someone.

However, I can totally see how chicks, and I've been in enough chick's dorm rooms and otherwise to know that more than a few feel this way, like dudes kissing each other or in other ways being intimate .

I like those sorts of girls - I can't abide double standards, so it only seems fair that if I like them to do it that I should do it back ;)



No. It's not. Just because you're porn has better lighting doesn't make it better.
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Eh? What?

Fuck. Anything you want. Don't try to pigeonhole yourself or let society determine what's acceptable to molest. Oh, if you're gonna brag (or if it's got a high enough level of sick fuckery), pictures or it didn't happen.

What's people's opinion on heterosexual men who kiss each other to get the attention of girls?

I'd say my feelings about this are probably the same as a stereotypical straight man's feelings about girls kissing: I don't care if it's all a show, just keep doing that!

I'd say my feelings about this are probably the same as a stereotypical straight man's feelings about girls kissing: I don't care if it's all a show, just keep doing that!
See, this is what some people for some reason don't seem to understand about porn..."women aren't really like that/lesbians aren't like that" whatever...

Yeah? Well, wizards also don't really enlist tiny dudes to throw rings in volcanoes either.

If you really could pay for a pizza with a blow job or chicks would clean your pipes for fixing their pipes I wouldn't need a movie to have that happen in. Of course two lesbians who I happen to see kiss are not at all likely to ask me to 'join them.' So I watch a movie where that unlikely event gets to unfold. It's fantasy you fucking morons (the ones who don't understand, not any reader). Frankly, if it were real it would be creepy. But add some soft lights and a funky saxophone track and it's a recipe for some quality alone time.

What's people's opinion on heterosexual men who kiss each other to get the attention of girls?

I bet half the men who are "w00t! hawt!" about girls, would be "yergh! Blergh!"

Bloody double standards!
ill let you know if its hot or not after i have seen 2 hot het men kissing each other. seems like it COULD be but you never know about these things until you see it. (ya ya the guys in brokeback mountain were hot but they were only kissing because its their job)

dont forget that there is a kind of woman who loves the idea of converting a gay man to straight with her amazing womanly sex ways. surely those women cant be utterly disgusted by men kissing even if they pretty much disagree with the premise.

Girls are hawt.

You've never met my ex.

A month or so ago I was chatting with a 30-something year old blokey guy who - I must admit - is a bit of a chauvanist. We were speaking about bisexuality and the fashionability of lesbianism, or as he put it "lipstick lesbians". See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_lesbian
I personally feel that a lot of people are legitimitely homosexual and some are legitimitely bisexual, and some people just like sex full stop. I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring your sexuality and having fun. However, I think there are some younger women who kiss girls because it's...well, "cool".

What are your thoughts?

I just love sex to be quite honest. I've had sex with 2 girls at once. I've had sex where you swap partners. I've had sex with twins, best friends, roommates. Sex is just w wonderful thing and you should be able to do it whenever you want with consulting adults. No sexual actions with dudes unless you consider sex in the same room gay.

It's not a particularly good song. I think the lyrics to "You're so gay" are kind of funny, though.

But yeah, I agree. I think everyone has the right to play around with it. But I know a lot of people feel differently, so I thought I'd put it out there.

watching you kiss a girl would be a little disappointing because I would be jealous of you not kissing me. :fluffle: You're quite hot and worth kissing one way or the other.

No sexual actions with dudes unless you consider sex in the same room gay.

More importantly, you consider 'sex in the same room' to be arguable as a 'sexual action with dudes'... so the question is, do YOU consider it 'gay'?

My thoughts are: a lot of people are idiots.

Some girls kiss girls because they like girls. Some do, because they're curious. Some do just because they do, and it doesn't 'mean' anything. And so do to elicit a reaction from someone - especially from a 'significant other'.

But, what's the big deal? I've seen guys kiss girls for pretty much all those same reasons... so why are we making a special case for girl-on-girl?

There's nothing intrinsically 'fake gay' about kissing someone.

My thoughts have been summed up here perfectly.:)

And I need to add that kissing a girl, at least from personal experience, feels exactly the same as kissing a guy. It´s a mouth, with lips, a tongue and teeth. Nothing particularly distinctive. So, meh.

If no one really liked it it wouldn't exist because it wouldn't work. And we'd all be blissfully unaware of Paris Hilton.

Yeah, that's true. In addition, I guess I'm just too esoteric a connoisseur of pornography to find fake lesbian scenes arousing.

I used to get really annoyed with the 'fake' bisexuals, because a few times, I'd be messing around with one, and then they'd go all cold and decide they didn't want to actually have sex. Then I realised...hey, guys have to deal with that shit all the time :D

Now I just don't bother with flakes, of either gender.

Yeah, that's true. In addition, I guess I'm just too esoteric a connoisseur of pornography to find fake lesbian scenes arousing.

Fake scenes of any 'genre' are not arousing to me. I can only get into it if it's clear the participants are into it.

Fake scenes of any 'genre' are not arousing to me. I can only get into it if it's clear the participants are into it.

I agree.

Fake scenes of any 'genre' are not arousing to me. I can only get into it if it's clear the participants are into it.

Surely that's the whole point of 'acting'?

Ive kissed many girls, and most of the time I liked it.

Ive kissed many girls, and most of the time I liked it.

This really needs further qualification.

Were some ugly? Or just crap kissers?

Surely that's the whole point of 'acting'?

Not my thing. It's pretty obvious when it's fake.

This really needs further qualification.

Were some ugly? Or just crap kissers?

Crap kissers.

I admit that I'm irritated at times by both the girls who kiss for male attention and the people who criticize them for it. Mostly because they both totally cramp my style and interfere with my ability to get laid. Unacceptable.

Seriously, I think people should be free to explore or express whatever sexuality they want, as long as it's truly consensual. As a legitimately bisexual woman I am annoyed at times by the hordes of rail-thin, American Apparel-wearing, Jagerbomb-drinking, barely-legal skanks who take any opportunity to lock lips as long as there's a camera around so they can show how edgy they are on myspace. But I'm annoyed by a great many things in life, and it's my job to get over it, not theirs.

I'm also really annoyed by the people who think that if you're not a butch lesbian with a crew cut and a truck that you must just be pretending to like girls. There's a lot of diversity in any community, including the lesbian/bi community.

See, that's what kind of annoys me: I feel sorry (well, not sorry, moreso annoyed) for my legitimitely bisexual or lesbian friends who could potentially end up kissing a chick that is just doing it because she's had too many jager bombs and wants a cool myspace pic. That being said, there's lots of guys out there who kiss chicks at clubs that are just doing it for selfish reasons. And, honestly, those American Apparel-wearing Barbies aren't that attractive anyway.

A few of my lesbian friends are the most beautiful, feminine girls, and it was actually when I was discussing one of my friends with this 30-something year old guy that be brought up the term "lipstick lesbian". He's of the belief that he can turn girls straight... :rolleyes:

watching you kiss a girl would be a little disappointing because I would be jealous of you not kissing me. :fluffle: You're quite hot and worth kissing one way or the other.

:rolleyes:

More importantly, you consider 'sex in the same room' to be arguable as a 'sexual action with dudes'... so the question is, do YOU consider it 'gay'?

I know this question wasn't directed at me, but I think that unless the guys are touching each other sexually or feel sexually attracted to one another, it's more experimental and open than homosexual. I think it's quite... "manly" -for lack of a better word- for 2 men to share a sexual experience with one woman. Like dogs with meat. ;)

My thoughts have been summed up here perfectly.:)

And I need to add that kissing a girl, at least from personal experience, feels exactly the same as kissing a guy. It´s a mouth, with lips, a tongue and teeth. Nothing particularly distinctive. So, meh.

I think girls have softer lips...

Oh and this was the Amber Petty thing from the Courier Mail:
Amber Petty - why fake lesbians turn me offBy Amber Petty
August 28, 2008 12:21am
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"I KISSED a girl and I liked it!"

Yeah, yeah. Great song, Katy Perry, and well done for going No 1 around the world with it. But my question to you is: Did you really kiss a girl or are you simply cashing in on the new cultural trend of pseudo-lesbianism sweeping the world?

It seems everywhere you look, there's another pair of dopey chicks simulating lust for each other in the desperate hope someone's watching. They're on Facebook, they're grinding at the clubs, they're pashing at parties, wherever there's an audience - ideally male.

Since when did it become fashionable to be so pathetic?

Oh, that's right - probably when the likes of Britney Spears and Paris Hilton started falling out of clubs together holding hands and staring into each other's crossed eyes.

Call me cynical but I can't help suggest that these two Hollywood horrors are about as gay as Ita Buttrose or Wayne Carey.

Of course, there's no harm in experimenting and it doesn't mean that, if you do, suddenly you'll be hanging off the back of a float at Mardi Gras. But when you're doing it in public, essentially to get attention from men, or because you think it's the cool thing to do, you need to take yourself off to a quiet little room and take a long, hard look.

I would suggest you've either got a problem with promiscuity, have been watching too many Britney videos or you're suffering from seriously low self-esteem.

Either way, you're not being true to yourself - and when you finally grow up, you may actually wish you didn't treat your self-respect or reputation as little more than a doormat.

We all have male and female hormones and, for some girls, including the more girlie girls or "lipstick lesbians", they have a strong male energy that dictates how they feel and who they feel it for, and this often results in a desire for the same sex.

For bisexual girls dating girls, it's often about honouring their male energy and needs, and then going back to men to fulfil their female side. So girls will often treat their "girlfriends" the same way they like to be treated by a guy, and that's something they really enjoy.

Here's something I never thought I'd say, but finally Lindsay Lohan has shown a side to her almost worth admiring.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me but she's at least showing the guts to "come out" about her gay relationship with Samantha Ronson.

OK, she hasn't exactly held a press conference, nor should she have to, but she's at least not appearing ashamed of it by ducking and weaving every time she sees a camera.

Can't imagine it's been a move that her fame-hungry mother, Dina, would be popping another bottle of Cristal over. And as for the cheerful chats with her agent over her new-found love, well, you've got to give her some credit, don't you think?

Spare a thought for the real-deal lesbians or bisexual women, who must literally want to vomit every time they see these idiot girls in action.

How much would it wind you up if you've taken the hard path of growing up gay and proud and then these twits turn up on the scene doing what looks like a drunk Saturday Night Live send-up of the gay community?

The thing is, all you "sell-out sisters", being a lesbian or bisexual is not a fashion trend. It was not merchandised alongside last summer's maxi dress, and you can't pick it up at your local store and then return it a week later because it doesn't fit.

You're born bisexual and you're born gay. It's pretty simple really. "If you kissed a girl and you liked it", good on you, but don't fake it to be cool.

Amber Petty is co-host of the SAFM morning show


I think she's just written it to create controversy.

My thoughts have been summed up here perfectly.:)

And I need to add that kissing a girl, at least from personal experience, feels exactly the same as kissing a guy. It´s a mouth, with lips, a tongue and teeth. Nothing particularly distinctive. So, meh.

I was going to contest that, but, really, I've never kissed any two people who kissed exactly the same, so I don't think the difference is so much about gender as individuals. Except that with girls, you're not as likely to get stubble burn. Hopefully.

Not my thing. It's pretty obvious when it's fake.

I think this is part of the reason that watching two guys make out can be just as hot or hotter than watching them go at it, to me, because it at least takes more skill to pretend you like kissing someone than to pretend you like fucking them. If two chicks or two guys (I have a weird thing against straight porn) look like they really enjoy kissing each other, the porn is probably going to be good.

I was going to contest that, but, really, I've never kissed any two people who kissed exactly the same, so I don't think the difference is so much about gender as individuals. Except that with girls, you're not as likely to get stubble burn. Hopefully.

I can guarantee that kissing me is not like kissing a chick. Except maybe the bearded lady.

I think this is part of the reason that watching two guys make out can be just as hot or hotter than watching them go at it, to me, because it at least takes more skill to pretend you like kissing someone than to pretend you like fucking them. If two chicks or two guys (I have a weird thing against straight porn) look like they really enjoy kissing each other, the porn is probably going to be good.

That's what I've found. It's also pretty true in straight porn as well.

I'm bisexual; I've kissed and had sex with people of both sexes. I'm attracted to both, and have had serious relationships with members of both sexes.

Doesn't stop me sometimes getting off with a girl to turn on a guy I like. If it works, it works. I suppose the knowledge that I'm bisexual and getting off with a girl probably turns a guy on more; he probably thinks he can have me and another girl at the same time. I dunno. If I'm going to "have" get off with a hot girl (which I'm going to enjoy, anyway) as part of the process of pulling a hot guy then, frankly, I'm more than happy to do so.

I have no problem in manipulating guys to get them to want me. Or manipulating guys anyway.

I can guarantee that kissing me is not like kissing a chick. Except maybe the bearded lady.

I've met some hairy chicks in my time, man. And anyway, of course kissing you wouldn't be like kissing a chick, but kissing you wouldn't be like kissing any other guy, either. I assume. Unless you and a guy I've kissed, like, took a class somewhere together. That would be weird.

Yeah? Well, wizards also don't really enlist tiny dudes to throw rings in volcanoes either.

Son of a bitch you should have told me that before I spent the airfare to Hawaii.

I've met some hairy chicks in my time, man. And anyway, of course kissing you wouldn't be like kissing a chick, but kissing you wouldn't be like kissing any other guy, either. I assume. Unless you and a guy I've kissed, like, took a class somewhere together. That would be weird.
B-but, the Kissing Ryadn class took car of a GE requirement...it was a fairly hard class to get into...

I have no problem in manipulating guys to get them to want me. Or manipulating guys anyway.

Deliciously honest!

I kissed a chick once.

Caught Avian Flu...

I kissed a chick once.

Caught Avian Flu...

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http://nohomers.net/images/smilies/rimshot.gif (http://www.ilovewavs.com/Effects/Music/Sound%20Effect%20-%20Rimshot.wav)Better response is to tell him to only kiss white or black chicks then, or kiss the asian chick with a face mask on. But I suppose the latter option takes a lot of the fun out of it.

Better response is to tell him to only kiss white or black chicks then, or kiss the asian chick with a face mask on. But I suppose the latter option takes a lot of the fun out of it.
Honestly, I was just happy I found both a smiley and a sound effect...I didn't realize the little guy had such a deadpan face until after the fact.

Honestly, I was just happy I found both a smiley and a sound effect...I didn't realize the little guy had such a deadpan face until after the fact.It has a sound? *pauses music* I don't hear anything... ooh, do I have to click the smiley? *appreciates*

More importantly, you consider 'sex in the same room' to be arguable as a 'sexual action with dudes'... so the question is, do YOU consider it 'gay'?

Nah, I was kind of just making a joke out of it all. The loving the sex part was true. The sexual experiences with girls who like girls is true. By in the same room I'm referring to opposite sides of a basement. At no point was I ever in contact or full view of male genitalia. That basement experience was also a result of intoxicating items that shall remain nameless. It's amazing what you can do when inhibitions are pretty much nill.

My thoughts have been summed up here perfectly.:)

And I need to add that kissing a girl, at least from personal experience, feels exactly the same as kissing a guy. It´s a mouth, with lips, a tongue and teeth. Nothing particularly distinctive. So, meh.

Hello mi amore. It has been a long time since we've spoke. Look for a TG.

B-but, the Kissing Ryadn class took care of a GE requirement...it was a fairly hard class to get into...

Damn right it was, but the instruction was top notch. ;)

I must say I like the idea of woman running around kissing and having fun with each other. Leaves the men free for me :)

I must say I like the idea of woman running around kissing and having fun with each other. Leaves the men free for me :)

Maybe we can combine our powers for good.

Better response is to tell him to only kiss white or black chicks then, or kiss the asian chick with a face mask on. But I suppose the latter option takes a lot of the fun out of it.

He meant chick, like chicken, honey.

If you really could pay for a pizza with a blow job or chicks would clean your pipes for fixing their pipes .

if that actually happened. i'd be in the wrong line of work

Deliciously honest!

I wouldn't dream of being anything else!

He meant chick, like chicken, honey.Yes, I knew this, just as he knew everyone else meant chick as in girl. :p

Hello mi amore. It has been a long time since we've spoke. Look for a TG.

'Lo Liuzzo-sama! Thanks for the greeting. I got your TG. ;)

A month or so ago I was chatting with a 30-something year old blokey guy who - I must admit - is a bit of a chauvanist. We were speaking about bisexuality and the fashionability of lesbianism, or as he put it "lipstick lesbians". See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_lesbian
I personally feel that a lot of people are legitimitely homosexual and some are legitimitely bisexual, and some people just like sex full stop. I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring your sexuality and having fun. However, I think there are some younger women who kiss girls because it's...well, "cool".

What are your thoughts?

i think that you're right.

however, i also believe that there is much higher percentage of females than males who are "truly" bisexual in their character and inclination.

for more on my view on that, read my post in the "gender binary" thread.

my wife and I had a three way kiss with our roommate. It was nice - he's a good kisser. He didn't have any cherry chapstick on though, unfortunately.

I kissed a girl, and I liked it.

I was going to contest that, but, really, I've never kissed any two people who kissed exactly the same, so I don't think the difference is so much about gender as individuals.


Do you find any gender similarities? I've found heterosexual men tend to kiss quite forcefully, as they're probably trying to prove a point when kissing another guy. Homosexual men, heterosexual and homosexual women tend to be more varied though, I agree. I don't know if I have had enough of a representative sample though! I remember one girl almost ripped my tongue out she had so much suck on her! (tragic misapplication in my opinion)


I have no problem in manipulating guys to get them to want me. Or manipulating guys anyway.

It's all fun! I don't mind being manipulated, as long as you don't mind me doing some too ;)

I kissed a girl, and I liked it.

I can't accept that empirical proposition without pictures. Both of you and the girl, and a simultaneous brain-scan showing the appropriate neural activity. ;)

I can't accept that empirical proposition without pictures. Both of you and the girl, and a simultaneous brain-scan showing the appropriate neural activity. ;)

It was purely subjective. (The 'liking', not the 'kissing'.)

It was purely subjective. (The 'liking', not the 'kissing'.)

Don't forget the ambiguity with the word girl. She could have been a trannie who was put together well.

Here's something fun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IPDOB4yzzo&feature=related)

What are your thoughts?
My thoughts are that i really don't get to see enough posts from you until i'm too busy to hit the forums. Especially THESE kinds of posts. :p

My thoughts are that i really don't get to see enough posts from you until i'm too busy to hit the forums. Especially THESE kinds of posts. :p

Werd on that.

I often find that my natural urge to experiment is heightened in a nightclub after a few drinks and that therefore (combined with my penchant for a little exhibitionism) I am far more likely to become over-friendly with my female friends. Of course, the abundance of free drinks is a pleasant inducement as well.

But does the fact that I have at one time or another kissed my female friends in nightclubs really create that much of a problem for other people? Why do I have to pigeonhole myself as bisexual to legitimise my actions?

And I like that song...and Jager. Not everyone is trying to make a statement or be cool. Some people are just open to new experiences.