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There's probably one here all ready, but this is my one.
Mine has to be theee one,
theeeeee only,
Admiiiraaaal Piett!
'Cos what cooler way to die is there than to be crashed into by a spaceship?

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb177/jedidude_2007/AdmiralAckbar.jpg

http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/starwars-new-hope/clumsy-trooper.gif

that guy

http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/starwars-new-hope/clumsy-trooper.gif

that guy

Ah yes, the fearsome Noobtrooper, scourge of the alliance.

Jar Jar Binks?

Doctor Evazan

Jar Jar Binks?

*dropkicks out of window into a truck of barb wired mouse traps*
Never say that again!

Doctor Evazan

..and Jar Jar Binks

..and Jar Jar Binks

Bwuahahaha! (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Heights/5927/gifs/jjfilet.jpg)
Where is your precious Jar Jar now?
/insanity

Wouldn't that mean there was a good character?

Fetts Fetts Fetts!

Fetts Fetts Fetts!

Oh really? (http://www.freewebs.com/zakjedi/FAIL!4.PNG)
:tongue:

I'll enjoy the characters when they all die a horrible horrible death!

Oh really? (http://www.freewebs.com/zakjedi/FAIL!4.PNG)
:tongue:

:eek::eek::eek: how could you do that! 'thinks of random jango is alive theory' The one that died was a clone! a clone i tells ye!

:eek::eek::eek: how could you do that! 'thinks of random jango is alive theory' The one that died was a clone! a clone i tells ye!

*mindbreak* So, the man who made clones died, but it wasn't him it was his clone, who was Boba Fett, who lives 'till episode 6 except he didn't so it had to be Jango who lived... *head explodes*
And the correct response would have been 'Ya really. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTrPZWdx2Fw)

Jar Jar Binks?
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/ultima.gif


For eight hundred years have I answered polls. My own counsel will I keep on which answer is to be chosen.

A pollster must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind.

This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked... for the funny answer, for the trick question.

Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Fett. Heh. Random Answer/Lunatic Goofballs/CHEESECAKE. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things. You fail.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Yoda.png

My pick: Master Yoda.

(AND WHY THE HELL IS HE NOT ON THE POLL?)

R2-D2. Never in history has so much ass been kicked by a dildo-shaped robot. *nod*

*mindbreak* So, the man who made clones died, but it wasn't him it was his clone, who was Boba Fett, who lives 'till episode 6 except he didn't so it had to be Jango who lived... *head explodes*
And the correct response would have been 'Ya really. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTrPZWdx2Fw)

I'm not going to pretend to understand that:D, naw i was just kidding he's dead. But he was just so damn cool:(

Clone trooper number 5678 :P

R2-D2. Never in history has so much ass been kicked by a dildo-shaped robot. *nod*

Seconded.

Also, an honorable mention goes to Chewbacca, if only because the Lego version of him is ridiculously cute.

Hayden Christensen you’re in Star Wars
And you try the dark side of the force
To save, Padme

Jedi council will grant you a seat
But not the rank of master that you seek
To be, you plead

You’re murdering
Jedi by the bunch
There’s no time for a lunch
They should have had a hunch

Palpatine’s a dark lord of the Sith
He says his power will fulfill your wish
To save, Padme

Hayden Christensen on Mustafar
Battle sword to sword with Obi-Wan
In turn, you burn

You’re murdering
Sand People at night
Their heads roll side to side
They took your mother’s life

You’re murdering
Separatist in stride
The dark side is your guide
You’re rage will not subside

You’re murdering
Jedi by the bunch
There’s no time for a lunch
They should have had a hunch

You’re murdering
Jedi far and wide
The dark side is your guide
You’re rage will not subside

Hayden Christensen you’re in Star Wars
And you try the dark side of the force
To save, Padme
But you’re murdering
Yeah (hold), murdering

Possible Oscar-Hayden Christensen. http://www.possibleoscar.com/media/audio/. it's there on the list.

http://www.stargods.org/ClintonDarthMaul.jpg

He'll give me babies some day.

R2-D2. Never in history has so much ass been kicked by a dildo-shaped robot. *nod*

Once again, LG has just given more proof that C3P0 is gay.

Jar Jar Binks?
Only good Jar Jar Binks is this one:
http://sperone.free.fr/images/extraz/PICS10/STARWARSmessa.jpg

By odd coincidence, I just watched original Star Wars tonight. 1st time in ages. Chewie's noises annoy me too much, as does R2D2's beeps and blips, for me to like them the best.
Prob go for Yoda:
http://sperone.free.fr/images/extraz/PICS22/starsdogs.jpg
Anyone who looks like a zombie Miss Piggy and can kick ass the way Yoda can gets A+ grade in my book.

He'll give me babies some day.
Have fun at birth. The Zabrak have horns - even as babies!!! :eek2:

*mindbreak* So, the man who made clones died, but it wasn't him it was his clone, who was Boba Fett, who lives 'till episode 6 except he didn't so it had to be Jango who lived... *head explodes*
And the correct response would have been 'Ya really. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTrPZWdx2Fw)

Actually, the real Fettmeister (the OT Boba) didn't die in the belly of the Sarlacc, he contracted a case of explosive evasion.

Not to be a ridiculous elitist snob, or an OT Nazi (though I like Stormtroopers, and the Vade, so I probably completely am an OT Nazi), but Jango Fett sucked big time. I refuse to allow Lucas to suggest that the best Bounty Hunter in the galaxy is a clone of Jango Fett, in AotC, Jango hired another person to do his work for him (Zam Wessil), now it was brought to my attention that Wessil was an assassin, so it was ok that Jango would hire someone else to do his job for him, but even still, a bounty hunter can be an assassin, and any hunter worth his salt (able to capture someone) should be able to kill that person.

Also, we see Jango's apparent skill at murder, when he killed Wessil to stop her from talking, so someone hires Jango to kill Padme, well he's a weenie, so he hires an assassin, and then, he follows her to her destination, and keeps an eye on her the whole time, so that when she is defeated he can kill her before she reveals who she worked for.

I discount the entire NT from Star Wars canon, Lucas was an idiot, and the new movies just sucked (not to mention contradictions).

EDIT: Oh right, who's my favourite? Well, in no real particular order I like the Vade, Fettmeister (if you have to ask which one, I refer you to my above post), Wedge Antilles, Yoda, and I've always been partial to Luke, his character growth has been well-written, and well acted, plus he had a wicked cool green lightsaber, and he didn't do stupid dance choreography and call it swordfighting (like they do in the NT).

Nute Gunray and Rune Haako.

Mikka Hakkinen was also good.

Obi Wan Kenobi.

The only character who actually got COOLER in the prequels, and the only reason I bother with them at all.

A haiku:

Obi Wan Kenobi
Jedi Master who prefers
a blue lightsaber

Tarkin

Han Solo! The original trilogy would not have worked without some smartass wisecracking about the proceedings but also pulling out the last-minute saves.

How could you do a Star Wars character poll and leave off Yoda?

Obi Wan Kenobi.

The only character who actually got COOLER in the prequels, and the only reason I bother with them at all.

A haiku:

Obi Wan Kenobi
Jedi Master who prefers
a blue lightsaber

That's not a haiku.
Six syllables in first line?
D'oh. Learn to count, dude. :tongue:

Ladies and gentlemen, I refer you to my avatar. 'Nuff said.

I voted for Vader since Wedge Antilles wasn't a choice.

I voted for Vader since Wedge Antilles wasn't a choice.

May I direct you here? (http://www.piett.org/piett/p-fileswedge.html)
Piett has spoken. :p
How could you do a Star Wars character poll and leave off Yoda?
He's so green and teeny that I dun forgot about him.
This is his substitute. :D

If I had to pick any character, out of any of the Star Wars franchise, I'd probably pick Palpatine.

But, I'd take Dune over Star Wars anyday.

If I had to pick any character, out of any of the Star Wars franchise, I'd probably pick Palpatine.

But, I'd take Dune over Star Wars anyday.

Flow, the spice must.
See, combine the two for pure awesomness!:p

If I had to pick any character, out of any of the Star Wars franchise, I'd probably pick Palpatine.

But, I'd take Dune over Star Wars anyday.
Iron Maiden never wrote a song about Star Wars.

Flow, the spice must.
See, combine the two for pure awesomness!:p

Nah, that just detracts from Dune, I'm afraid.

I was never much of a fan of the original starwars trilogy. Indeed, the best thing I can say about it, is it's not the NEW starwars trilogy. I've never quite understood the devotion it inspires.

None of the characters are that memorable really, apart from Vader (original trilogy only).

Iron Maiden never wrote a song about Star Wars.

System of a Down take imagery from Dune, http://www.kolporter.pl/stuff/p/pi/f4/62845_System_Of_A_Down.jpg

Fatboy Slim steals lines from it (and Christopher Walken dances to it - arguably the greatest music video, ever).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZwZiU0kKs

There's just really no comparison.

C'mon... no Yoda, no R2, no Lando and no Chewbacca on the poll?!?

We all know what he was doing while Han was in Carbonite:

http://www.icanhasforce.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/star-wars-chewbacca-leia-omg-wtf-knock-before-you-come-in.jpg

obi wan kenobi.

Jabba the Hut hands-down.

Is it time yet to sound the NERD ALERT, or does that remark make me a horrible troll? Not that I mind being horrible, but I like to think that I'm above the despiccable level of the average troll.

Tarkin

YES. Blew a planet to hell like it was nothing.

Honorable mentions go to Piett, Ackbar, and Dooku. Also, I've always liked General Madine for some reason, despite the fact that he gets maybe ten seconds of screentime in ROTJ. Must be the awesome facial hair.

That reminds me; Darksaber kinda sucked. I've been wanting to say that for eleven years; I guess now's a decent enough chance.

HK-47
"Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope.
Statement: This definition, I am told, is subject to interpretation. Obviously, love is a matter of odds. Not many meatbags could make such a shot, and fewer would derive love from it. Yet for me, love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticle, and together, achieving a singular purpose, against statistically long odds."

or Darth Revan (http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/f/fc/DarthRevan_DarthMalak_EGF.jpg)

Is it time yet to sound the NERD ALERT, or does that remark make me a horrible troll? Not that I mind being horrible, but I like to think that I'm above the despiccable level of the average troll.

Nah, it's only time for a NERD ALERT when Star Wars LARPing is a possibility.

That's not a haiku.
Six syllables in first line?
D'oh. Learn to count, dude. :tongue:

Ol' Ben Kenobi
Jedi Master who prefers
a blue lightsaber.

It undermines his silly opinion that NT Obi-wan is better than OT, which is, of course ridiculous, but I'm ok with the revision.

That reminds me; Darksaber kinda sucked. I've been wanting to say that for eleven years; I guess now's a decent enough chance.

Kevin J. Anderson kinda sucked. Now seems a good time to say it. :)

Grand Admiral Thrawn, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Darth Vader, Corran Horn to name a few.

Oh, also Grand Admiral Palleon...err was he a Grand Admiral? He was Grand Admiral Thrawn's successor.

Grand Admiral Thrawn, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Darth Vader, Corran Horn to name a few.

Oh, also Grand Admiral Palleon...err was he a Grand Admiral? He was Grand Admiral Thrawn's successor.

All good, though I like Wedge a bit better than Corran.

All good, though I like Wedge a bit better than Corran.

Wedge is an awesome character, but I put Corran on because of what he did during the Yuuzon Vong invasion. All the pain he went through, his experiences, etc. (I only read the first 3 of the new jedi order books...I'm planning to read the others sometime soon, so maybe end up likeing wedge better)

Dash Rendar, SotE (Episode 5.5)

originally R2 D2 was going to be a human role. played by a guy with photographic memory the ability to hack computer system at will but little social adjustment, or speaking parts he was mostly just going to hover around silently until someone told him to go away or hack a computer.

then lucas realized that would be really creepy.

That's not a haiku.
Six syllables in first line?
D'oh. Learn to count, dude. :tongue:


d'oh...

ok re-write:

Old Ben Kenobi
Jedi Master who prefers
a blue lightsaber

If I had to pick any character, out of any of the Star Wars franchise, I'd probably pick Palpatine.

But, I'd take Dune over Star Wars anyday.

Especially considering how heavily Star Wars ripped off Dune.

Obi Wan Kenobi.

The only character who actually got COOLER in the prequels

This is very true.


As an aside- Why the fuck would anyone vote for Luke? God hes a whiney little sissy.

Grand Admiral Thrawn, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Darth Vader, Corran Horn to name a few.

Oh, also Grand Admiral Palleon...err was he a Grand Admiral? He was Grand Admiral Thrawn's successor.

Thank God - I thought I was never going to see a vote for Thrawn. By far the greatest military strategist the SW Galaxy has ever seen, I wonder what would have happened if he had been in command at Endor like Paelleon wonders. And yes, Paelleon did go on to be a Grand Admiral.

[/nerdulance]

This is very true.


As an aside- Why the fuck would anyone vote for Luke? God hes a whiney little sissy.

Gawd I tried to like Luke. I really, really tried.

I mean, one could forgive him for being the way he was in Episode 4.. he was just a moisture farmer kid with no life experience.

"But I was going to go down to Toshi Station and pick up some power converters!"
"Looks like I'm going nowhere."
"I thought you said this thing was fast!"

But he seemed to come into his own a bit by the end. Unfortunately old habits die hard like in Episode 5:

"If you're saying it was a mistake coming here, I'm beginning to agree with you..."
"I don't understand why we can't go see Yoda now!"
"No.... No.... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"

But hey, he's a Jedi in Episode 6 so he must be good, right? No. he went from a whiner to an arrogant ass.

"It's your choice but I warn you not to underestimate my power."
"I've taken care of everything."
"That's why you couldn't bring yourself to destroy me. That's why you won't take me to your Emperor now."

Gawd I tried to like Luke. I really, really tried.

I mean, one could forgive him for being the way he was in Episode 4.. he was just a moisture farmer kid with no life experience.

"But I was going to go down to Toshi Station and pick up some power converters!"
"Looks like I'm going nowhere."
"I thought you said this thing was fast!"

But he seemed to come into his own a bit by the end. Unfortunately old habits die hard like in Episode 5:

"If you're saying it was a mistake coming here, I'm beginning to agree with you..."
"I don't understand why we can't go see Yoda now!"
"No.... No.... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"

But hey, he's a Jedi in Episode 6 so he must be good, right? No. he went from a whiner to an arrogant ass.

"It's your choice but I warn you not to underestimate my power."
"I've taken care of everything."
"That's why you couldn't bring yourself to destroy me. That's why you won't take me to your Emperor now."

And he gives his sister tounge. That too.

And he gives his sister tounge. That too.

"no.... No..... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!"

Especially considering how heavily Star Wars ripped off Dune.

Everything has ripped of either Dune, Alien, or Robert Heinlein - if it's any good. Probably why 40k is so good, it dined flamboyantly and heavily upon the bodies of all three.

The Starwars Clonetroopers... equal parts Sardaukar and (Heinlein) Space Marines.
The Dominion's Jem'Hadar... Sardaukar.
Necromongers... Sardaukar.
Imperial Space Marines... equal parts Sardaukar and (Heinlein) Space Marines.


What offends me about Star Wars isn't how derivative it is - it's how slavishly it's worshipped, when you consider what it is.... a knock off of Lord of The Rings.

Knights of good and evil? Check.
A Dark Lord? Check.
Magic Sword? Check.
Mystical Powers? Check.
An Elite Order of Wizards, Almost Extinct? Check.
Some Wizards, Gone Bad? Check.
Monsters? Check.
Talking-but-Inanimate Objects? Check.
Impenetrable Fortress, with One Stupid Weakness? Check.
Big Bug That Eats People, But Lives In Ridiculously Out-Of-The-Way Place? Check.

Hell, Vader's even got a Set of Magic Armour.

Look at 'Star Wars' as a fairy tale, where someone has done nothing mroe than gone through and renamed everything that had a mystical name, to a 'sci-fi' sounding name? Hobbits? No - call them... Ewoks! Orks? No... stormtroopers. It's impressive... that people are still lapping it up.

Yoda.

I mean ... come on! He's clearly the coolest one in the whole serie!

What offends me about Star Wars isn't how derivative it is - it's how slavishly it's worshipped, when you consider what it is.... a knock off of Lord of The Rings.

Knights of good and evil? Check.
A Dark Lord? Check.
Magic Sword? Check.
Mystical Powers? Check.
An Elite Order of Wizards, Almost Extinct? Check.
Some Wizards, Gone Bad? Check.
Monsters? Check.
Talking-but-Inanimate Objects? Check.
Impenetrable Fortress, with One Stupid Weakness? Check.
Big Bug That Eats People, But Lives In Ridiculously Out-Of-The-Way Place? Check.


And Lord of the Rings probably draws on King Arthur and such; if you look hard enough you can always find connections to older works because these common threads of plot are extremely old, and are more or less ingrained in the human psych; there are no original stories, just new and interesting retellings of them.

And Lord of the Rings probably draws on King Arthur and such; if you look hard enough you can always find connections to older works because these common threads of plot are extremely old, and are more or less ingrained in the human psych; there are no original stories, just new and interesting retellings of them.

I think he said it was more about Norse myth, didn't he?

But that's not the point. Star Wars isn't 'drawing on' Norse tradition or King Arthur - it IS a fantasy story, just with the names changed. It's sci-fi so soft you could drink it.

lol wut?

Who cares if Star Wars has many parallels to fantasy stories?

And the thread was on your favorite characters.

Start your own damn thread on how much you hate Star Wars.

This thread is for fans.

lol wut?

Who cares if Star Wars has many parallels to fantasy stories?

And the thread was on your favorite characters.

Start your own damn thread on how much you hate Star Wars.

This thread is for fans.

I picked a character - Palpatine.

I'm not saying star war "has many parallels to fantasy stories", I'm saying it IS a fantasy story.

The thread title says "Favorite Star Wars character', and I picked one. It doesn't say it's a 'fan' thread. So, I answered the original question, and then expressed my opinion (which I don't see disallowed anywhere) that Star Wars is basically shit. Not as a hollow gesture, mind - I actually pointed out WHY it's shit.

You seem strangely militant about my objecting... where you 'nearly there' looking at the list of names, or something?

Did you know that the current category of the Stars Wars films is "Space Opera", and not "Sci-fi"?

I'm a Star Wars fan, and I love Space Operas then, but it is not really Sci-fi. As someone else said, it is a fantasy tale, just in a space, future setting.

May I direct you here? (http://www.piett.org/piett/p-fileswedge.html)
Fails on soooo many levels
Antilles skill as a pilot can clearly be seen to be lacking. In the Battle of Yavin, Antilles, already a pilot with training and combat experience under his belt, is made subordinate to Luke Skywalker - a teenage farmboy with NO experience with the squadron, NO experience in combat, and NO experience flying an X-Wing starfighter. Obviously Wedge's superiors felt that this boy - whom they had never even seen before, let alone had a chance to evaluate his performance and abilities - was a better pilot and leader than Antilles.
Even sadder, a person of whom their commanders feel is so bad as to place them under the command of a total rookie was later placed in command of the Rebel Alliance's so-called elite fighter squadron.
already fails. Wedge was not made into Luke's Subordinate. he was friends with Biggs and Biggs was friends with Luke. thus when Luke made the call, Biggs supported Luke as a friend should and Wedge backed up Biggs as a friend should.

and remember, Luke had the Force, Wedge did not.

Word of Wedge's lack of flying skills was so prevalent that it had already spread down to the newest member of the X-Wing squadron, Luke Skywalker. This is evident in the fact that when Skywalker was under attack by a TIE Fighter, he called to Biggs Darklighter for assistance, rather than the much closer Wedge Antilles. Following Wedge's near-suicidal attack at the TIE, Skywalker was obliged to say a small 'Thanks, Wedge' - while probably thanking the Force at the same time for Wedge not having hit him.
Once again, the confidence placed in Wedge by his superiors was shown in the fact that he was left for the VERY LAST group to make an attack on the thermal exhaust port. Fail #2, Luke called for Biggs because Biggs was Luke's friend from Tattoonie.

During the trench run on the Death Star, Antilles was slightly singed by a blast from a pursuing TIE. Following this one hit, Antilles pulls out and leaves his comrades to die. The blast would seem to have caused extremely little operational damage, evidenced by the fact that he safely flew his X-Wing back to Yavin 4 and landed without incident. he was ordered out by Luke. a point touched upon in Rogue Squadron. besides, how do you know it wasn't the Force telling Luke to save Wedge.
But even if one were to believe the explanation that a stabiliser had been hit and he would have been a danger to remain in the trench, why did he not circle around and strafe the pursuing TIEs? Lord Vader even specifically said to leave him - why did he not make use of this tactical advantage? It could easily have saved the life of Biggs Darklighter. Or was there a reason Vader let him go? Was Antilles working for the Dark Lord?
Antilles memory is obviously not the best, either. In later years, he would constantly refer to the group that attacked the first Death Star as Rogue Squadron. They weren't - they clearly identified themselves as Red Group, as would the pilots of the same group during the Battle of Endor. Only during the battle of Hoth were any of his group ever referred to as Rogue group. so speaks a non-pilot.
let's see how well this reviewer flies a fighter at top speed with a shot out stabalizer.

and Red Squadron was renamed to Rogue. so TECHNICALLY Wedge is correct that Rogue Squadron flew against the first death star.

espeically since Rouge squadron included all the surviving X-Wing pilots and included all those that died among their roster.

In the credits of Star Wars, Wedge was so unimportant that they spelled the actor's name wrong. It isn't Dennis Lawson, it's Denis Lawson. Only one 'n'. yep and that was wedges fault.... how exacty?
One of the few surviving pilots of the attack on the first Death Star did not even rank highly enough during the Battle of Hoth to merit a wingman, as evidenced by the fact that Luke Skywalker had to fly cover for him during an attack on an Imperial At-At. and where was Luke's wingman? perhaps the wingmen were...*gasp* the gunners!
Of all the attributes you can ascribe to Antilles, modesty sure isn't one of them. During the Battle of Hoth, Wedge and his gunman manage to down one of the At-At's, which Skywalker commends Wedge for by saying "I see ya Wedge, good work". While Antilles did fly the Snowspeeder, at least some credit goes to his gunner, Wes Janson. Sure, Wedge did say "Good shot, Janson!", but he could have mentioned something to Luke about giving credit where credit is due... wait. so during a battle, you want them to be distracted by chatter? that was a team effort, both pilot and gunner. another failure on the reviewer's part.
What the hell happened to his accent between the Battle of Hoth and the Battle of Endor? what accent. people do talk differently when stuck on a frozen planet freezing their assets off.
When attacking the second Death Star, Antilles surely failed to check his instruments, or perhaps even turn them on. As the fighter wings approached the Death Star, he commented that he got no reading from the Death Star, indicating that he could neither tell if the shield was up or down. If the shield were down, he would get a reading saying that the shield was down. If the shield was up, he would get a reading that the shield was up. In the case where he gets no reading at all, it should surely be self-evident that scans are being jammed, yet he still questioned if that was indeed the case. So either he had no idea whatsoever about combat tactics, or he did not even have his computers switched on, and was merely trying to cover his own incompetence. oooh... yep. incompetence... especially his comments about not having any reading came from General Lando's comment about "Check your sensors, the Shields should be down".
Undoubtedly, this hesitation cost several Rebel pilots their lives when the order to pull up was finally given - too late in those several case. The few seconds that Antilles took up being stupid would have made all the difference. how many ships crashed into the barrier? he can't say because NONE did.
As Antilles took the point leading a group of fighters and the Millennium Falcon into the interior of the Death Star, he completely failed to warn Lando Calrissian that the way ahead was actually too small for the Falcon to fit through, causing the loss of the Falcon's subspace antennae dish. yep, because the blueprints were soo detailed that the measurements of space between components were clearly labeled.

I would wonder the battle General's (Lando) tactics of sending his stocklight frieghter into what could be confined spaces. that speaks more against Lando's judgement than Wedge's skills.

Following the Battle of Endor, Antilles took to marking his X-Wing with the symbols of two Death Stars, in addition to all the TIE craft he had destroyed. In reality, he deserved neither of these kill marks. The kill shot on the first Death Star belongs to Luke Skywalker - Antilles caused little to no damage on the Death Star itself. The kill mark for the second Death Star rightly belongs to Lando Calrissian. Antille's shot destroyed a power regulation tower, which in itself would not have proved fatal for the battle station. It was Calrissian's shot that triggered the detonation of the main reactor. And even if one were to be lenient on these factors, standard military pilot protocol dictates that only those who have the final kill shot may add the kill to their tally - Antilles can claim neither, so his usurping of the kill marks is blatant slap in the face to the skills of Skywalker and Calrissian. (No wonder Luke only pops up once and Lando never turns up in the X-Wing novels or comics...) read the books again. there are two types of symbols for the death star. one is a kill symbol of which Wedge does claim credit because he was one of 3 fighters to return from that mission and he did fire upon the Death Star thus earning him a credit to the kill. the second type exists only for the second one. that is an Endor Battle Tab with a dot on it. to symbolize those that made the Death Star II Run but did NOT partake of the kill (Tycho had that one)
In said Rogue Squadron novels, what little flying skill Antilles may have had has already eroded to the point that former police officers and millionaires are racking up more kills. Also, Tycho Celchu seems to be presented as a better pilot, but is not credited for his skill, and Wedge's flying is so bad that the vast majority of the series supposedly inspired by Antilles is devoted to Corran Horn.
reading comprehension is lacking in this one. Wedge reformed the squadron, so the book focuses on the new pilots. Wedge is the commanding officer, thus while important to the squadron, not important to the story.
Antilles later creates and leads "Wrath Squadron", a collection of lousy, incompetent pilots. Apparently he decided to cover his own lack of skill by surrounding himself with more of the same... obviously someone who never read the books. Wrath Squadron was supposed to be infiltrators first, pilots second.
In the LucasArts Rogue Squadron 3D game, the player spends ONLY 1 MISSION as Antilles. (And it's a crappy Dark Empire one at that...)
Yep and that is the fault of the Character Wedge, and not the programmers... good call. :rolleyes:
Sorry VT
that reviewer fails on soo many levels that I have to conclude that Wedge Antillies is my favorite Star Wars Character from all 6 movies.

Gonna pile on here with Junii, because I have some stuff to add.


* Antilles skill as a pilot can clearly be seen to be lacking. In the Battle of Yavin, Antilles, already a pilot with training and combat experience under his belt, is made subordinate to Luke Skywalker - a teenage farmboy with NO experience with the squadron, NO experience in combat, and NO experience flying an X-Wing starfighter. Obviously Wedge's superiors felt that this boy - whom they had never even seen before, let alone had a chance to evaluate his performance and abilities - was a better pilot and leader than Antilles.

Wedge was placed subordinate to Red leader. That he followed Luke and Biggs appears to have been simply a personal decision, as rank does not appear to have been delineated any lower than individual group leaders.


* Even sadder, a person of whom their commanders feel is so bad as to place them under the command of a total rookie was later placed in command of the Rebel Alliance's so-called elite fighter squadron.


Which works against the argument, not for it.


* Word of Wedge's lack of flying skills was so prevalent that it had already spread down to the newest member of the X-Wing squadron, Luke Skywalker. This is evident in the fact that when Skywalker was under attack by a TIE Fighter, he called to Biggs Darklighter for assistance, rather than the much closer Wedge Antilles. Following Wedge's near-suicidal attack at the TIE, Skywalker was obliged to say a small 'Thanks, Wedge' - while probably thanking the Force at the same time for Wedge not having hit him.


No such thing is evident. Biggs appears to have been Luke's wingman. Who else would he look for?


* Once again, the confidence placed in Wedge by his superiors was shown in the fact that he was left for the VERY LAST group to make an attack on the thermal exhaust port.

Gold Squadron, in the heavier Y-Wing bombers were supposed to attack the exhaust port while the X-Wings flew cover for them. That Red Group was called upon to attack the exhaust port directly was the result of the fact that Gold group had been wiped out by the TIE fighters. It is the more talented pilots that tend to fly CAP for bombers.


* During the trench run on the Death Star, Antilles was slightly singed by a blast from a pursuing TIE. Following this one hit, Antilles pulls out and leaves his comrades to die. The blast would seem to have caused extremely little operational damage, evidenced by the fact that he safely flew his X-Wing back to Yavin 4 and landed without incident.


His being able to fly the fighter home means very little. Flying down a narrow trench and navigating open space are two different things. Also, we have no way to know the status of Wedge's weapon systems or his deflector shields.


* But even if one were to believe the explanation that a stabiliser had been hit and he would have been a danger to remain in the trench, why did he not circle around and strafe the pursuing TIEs? Lord Vader even specifically said to leave him - why did he not make use of this tactical advantage? It could easily have saved the life of Biggs Darklighter. Or was there a reason Vader let him go? Was Antilles working for the Dark Lord?


To have lingered in the area alone would have been suicidal. Have we forgotten the surface turrets?


* Antilles memory is obviously not the best, either. In later years, he would constantly refer to the group that attacked the first Death Star as Rogue Squadron. They weren't - they clearly identified themselves as Red Group, as would the pilots of the same group during the Battle of Endor. Only during the battle of Hoth were any of his group ever referred to as Rogue group.

No, at the Battle of Hoth the squadron was 'Rho' group, not 'Rogue.' Remember when the speeder pilot saw Han and Luke at the beginning?

"Base, this is Rho Two. I've found them. Repeat, I've found them." Watch it again if you don't believe me.


* In the credits of Star Wars, Wedge was so unimportant that they spelled the actor's name wrong. It isn't Dennis Lawson, it's Denis Lawson. Only one 'n'.

Utterly irrelevant.


* One of the few surviving pilots of the attack on the first Death Star did not even rank highly enough during the Battle of Hoth to merit a wingman, as evidenced by the fact that Luke Skywalker had to fly cover for him during an attack on an Imperial At-At.

If Luke was covering Wedge that would appear to mean he was Wedge's wingman... Not that rank has anything whatsoever with having a wingman to begin with.


* Of all the attributes you can ascribe to Antilles, modesty sure isn't one of them. During the Battle of Hoth, Wedge and his gunman manage to down one of the At-At's, which Skywalker commends Wedge for by saying "I see ya Wedge, good work". While Antilles did fly the Snowspeeder, at least some credit goes to his gunner, Wes Janson. Sure, Wedge did say "Good shot, Janson!", but he could have mentioned something to Luke about giving credit where credit is due...

Because the middle of a combat zone is a great setting for such a conversation.


* What the hell happened to his accent between the Battle of Hoth and the Battle of Endor?

What accent?


* When attacking the second Death Star, Antilles surely failed to check his instruments, or perhaps even turn them on. As the fighter wings approached the Death Star, he commented that he got no reading from the Death Star, indicating that he could neither tell if the shield was up or down. If the shield were down, he would get a reading saying that the shield was down. If the shield was up, he would get a reading that the shield was up.


Lando's comment appears to contradict this assertion.

"We should be getting some kind of reading up or down..."

At which point he ordered the fighters to break off.


In the case where he gets no reading at all, it should surely be self-evident that scans are being jammed, yet he still questioned if that was indeed the case. So either he had no idea whatsoever about combat tactics, or he did not even have his computers switched on, and was merely trying to cover his own incompetence.

Or he was still checking his instruments for possible malfunction.


* Undoubtedly, this hesitation cost several Rebel pilots their lives when the order to pull up was finally given - too late in those several case. The few seconds that Antilles took up being stupid would have made all the difference.

No fighters were depicted as being lost until after the Imperial TIEs attacked. You can't make assumptions about anything that isn't shown onscreen.


* As Antilles took the point leading a group of fighters and the Millennium Falcon into the interior of the Death Star, he completely failed to warn Lando Calrissian that the way ahead was actually too small for the Falcon to fit through, causing the loss of the Falcon's subspace antennae dish.

If rebel pilots have such magnificent vision and the ability to instantly measure size and distance, then what's Lando's excuse?


* Following the Battle of Endor, Antilles took to marking his X-Wing with the symbols of two Death Stars, in addition to all the TIE craft he had destroyed. In reality, he deserved neither of these kill marks. The kill shot on the first Death Star belongs to Luke Skywalker - Antilles caused little to no damage on the Death Star itself. The kill mark for the second Death Star rightly belongs to Lando Calrissian. Antille's shot destroyed a power regulation tower, which in itself would not have proved fatal for the battle station. It was Calrissian's shot that triggered the detonation of the main reactor. And even if one were to be lenient on these factors, standard military pilot protocol dictates that only those who have the final kill shot may add the kill to their tally - Antilles can claim neither, so his usurping of the kill marks is blatant slap in the face to the skills of Skywalker and Calrissian. (No wonder Luke only pops up once and Lando never turns up in the X-Wing novels or comics...)

1)Teamwork means Wedge's contribution at the Battle of Yavin deserves credit if for no other reason than:
-He saved Skywalker, who went on to fire the critical shot
-He took a hit that would otherwise have struck Biggs or Skywalker
2)At the Battle of Endor it appears that destroying the power regulator was a necessary step in destroying the core. Otherwise, why not concentrate all firepower on the reactor core in the first place?
3)You can't make assumptions that the Rebel military traditions will equal our own.


* In said Rogue Squadron novels, what little flying skill Antilles may have had has already eroded to the point that former police officers and millionaires are racking up more kills. Also, Tycho Celchu seems to be presented as a better pilot, but is not credited for his skill, and Wedge's flying is so bad that the vast majority of the series supposedly inspired by Antilles is devoted to Corran Horn.

How can you break the fourth wall as an argument against an in-universe concept?

OK you guys are all insane...
seriously... NO ONE MENTIONS MACE WINDU?
I mean he's Samuel L jackson...with a purple lightsaber.

I mean I will admit yoda is kewl, obi-wan is cool and Thrawn is fricking awesome! but hey, its mace windu!


honorable mentions to Palleon,(sp) Darth Vader, Mara Jade, Han Solo, chewie, and R2-D2

OK you guys are all insane...
seriously... NO ONE MENTIONS MACE WINDU?
I mean he's Samuel L jackson...with a purple lightsaber.

I mean I will admit yoda is kewl, obi-wan is cool and Thrawn is fricking awesome! but hey, its mace windu!


honorable mentions to Palleon,(sp) Darth Vader, Mara Jade, Han Solo, chewie, and R2-D2

what about Mace?

All this time he never 'trusted' Aniken then suddenly Mace shows his back to the person he never trusted because Aniken reveiled who the Sith Lord was?

Then he plans on killing Palpatine and talks about it first? to the one man Palpatine spent time with and that person was the one person Mace never trusted untill that moment?

he's still awesome ;) he kills jango feet, defeats general grievous in a duel, almost beats palpatine and is generally cool and black ;) and samuel L jackson.

A Mace Windu haiku:

Mace Windu was cool
almost killed the Emperor
should have watched his back

he's still awesome ;) he kills jango feet, defeats general grievous in a duel, almost beats palpatine and is generally cool and black ;) and samuel L jackson.

I'll admit that he beats Jango.

but Obi Wan kills General Grievious

and while Sam Jackson plays Mace Windu, Mace Windu was certanly no Sam Jackson.

too true...but he does beat general grievous in a duel
from wikipedia
"A slightly different path of events occurs in Labyrinth of Evil, where Grievous is never shown patrolling through Coruscant's Subway in a prolonged chase after the Chancellor, but instead duels and nearly defeats Mace Windu atop one of the myriad fighters in the battle over the city. Windu unbalances and topples the General from the fighter, and it is here that he crushes Grievous' chest plates."

Vader because he shot a lawyer in the face....

HK-47
The guy who wrote HK-47 said in a recent interview that he based the character on The Littlest Hobo.

Only the Canadians here will have any idea what that means, but it's awesome.

Vader because he shot a lawyer in the face....

eh? :confused:

Admiral Piett

I'm amazed nobody has mentioned Stacey aka Pink5 yet!

Yoda: "When my age you reach, look as good you will not."
Stacey: "When my age you were, look as goo you didn't!"

This guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU :)

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So far no one has voted for Leia. Perhaps I can change that?

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So far no one has voted for Leia. Perhaps I can change that?

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better pic would be of Leia in her white dress while standing in the trash compactor. ;)

after all, one of her main complaints was that she was forbidden to wear a bra.

Vader. *Nods*

And where's the "Myrth" option? :tongue:

I'd have to say my fave Star Wars char is Darth W Vader by a landslide. He's a special character made by George Lucas for Colbert's 1st greenscreeen challange. Jar Jar Binks mentions him