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Some school administrators need to get lives.

http://www.parentdish.com/2008/08/22/pink-cancer-hair-student-suspended/?icid=200100397x1207911643x1200422850

Censorship can get a bit extreme, can't it?

I know a lot of dress code policies come down to perceived gang affiliations...but this is just dumb.

Some school administrators need to get lives.

http://www.parentdish.com/2008/08/22/pink-cancer-hair-student-suspended/?icid=200100397x1207911643x1200422850

Yes, yes they do but in this particular case, umm hard to tell maybe if it was for charity or something.

Censorship can get a bit extreme, can't it?

I know a lot of dress code policies come down to perceived gang affiliations...but this is just dumb.

Well maybe in America gang affiliations are a bit more prevalent but others try to keep a bit of class within the school and ensure that we represent the school in a uniform fashion, so we don't have jackass' (no she isn't one but I was one weekend after winning the grand final) rocking up to school with half their hair white and the other red.

waddya expect for a school with a public graded opinon (http://mo.localschooldirectory.com/schools_info.php/school_id/49423)of B?

Wow... and I thought my school was full of Fascists.

It does sound a bit on the extreme side, but schools appear to do this sort of thing all the time. A lot of schools' high-ups seem to think that if all of the kids are dressed sensibly, in the proper uniform or similar, then every other problem that they might have will disappear quite quickly, or at least that's the impression I've got from a lot of the decisions I've seen made by British schools.

My old secondary school was pretty lax on uniform, which was cool. I was able to turn up in a hoodie and trainers, so long as the trainers were dark and I had the school polo neck on and a proper pair of trousers.

thank god we don't have school uniforms in Finland

I'm hoping this sort of thing will become less prevalent as the old generation retires and younger people start to take over. I don't care what color my students dye their hair or how they cut it, as long as they're hygienic and not actively distracting anyone. I don't even make students take hats off all the time; I usually let them leave them on unless it's a problem.

That website you linked to needs to go back to school themselves.
It's hair, not heroine.
Guess they spent too much time working on their hair and not enough time finding out the difference between heroine and heroin.
I for one won't be heading to their place to get high.

the thing is of course that many hair dyes pose a significant cancer raising risk...

the thing is of course that many hair dyes pose a significant cancer raising risk...
Don't forget that hydrogen peroxide can be used to make bombs.

I agree with the school. This girl is obviously trying to subvert the entire school's authority and overthrow the administration in a bloody revolution.

I agree with the school. This girl is obviously trying to subvert the entire school's authority and overthrow the administration in a bloody revolution.

oh,clearly.

oh,clearly.
Indeed. All hair ought to be confiscated from students as soon as they step across the threshold into the educational establishment.

This is stupid.

I don't even care about the fact that she's dying her hair in memory of her father - there's no earthly reason to prohibit students from dying their hair, period, and I'm rather disgusted by the commenters on that site who are arguing that children should be taught to follow rules even if they're stupid or unfair. That's sure as heck not what I intend to teach my children.

there's no earthly reason to prohibit students from dying their hair, period

apart from all that stuff on equality, getting used to work, looking smart and such

That's sure as heck not what I intend to teach my children.

so your not going to teach your children when to back down? interesting that

apart from all that stuff on equality...

What does equality have to do with forbidding someone to dye their hair?

What does equality have to do with forbidding someone to dye their hair?

by forcing all children to conform to brutal totalitarianism we can root out any class distinction or anything else that they may use to distinguish between each other

by forcing all children to conform to brutal totalitarianism we can root out any class distinction or anything else that they may use to distinguish between each other

But......that doesn't sound like a good thing at all.

I agree with the school. This girl is obviously trying to subvert the entire school's authority and overthrow the administration in a bloody revolution.

i, for one, welcome our new pink-haired overlords

apart from all that stuff on equality, getting used to work, looking smart and such
If I want to "look smart," I will wear a suit and a tie and carry a book. Note I do neither in school. School isn't a job for anyone except the teacher and it doesn't matter what the students look like unless they are intentionally trying to disrupt class.

But......that doesn't sound like a good thing at all.
Whatever commie.

But......that doesn't sound like a good thing at all.

stops little Timmy no parents from getting stomped on the playground really

If I want to "look smart," I will wear a suit and a tie and carry a book.

but how much smarter do you look when all of your rabble are dressed in the same form marching in lines ;)

plus the carrying of book undoes the whole process leading you to smart casual

School isn't a job for anyone except the teacher

and I never said it was but its important to get children used to a working environment and one of them is being able to dress smartly

stops little Timmy no parents from getting stomped on the playground really

So will sedating children in between classes and that's a terrible.....actually that's a brilliant idea. *runs to department of education*

So will sedating children in between classes and that's a terrible.....actually that's a brilliant idea. *runs to department of education*

if you sedate children you will have to carry on with this until adulthood which will prove costly and ineffective

and I never said it was but its important to get children used to a working environment and one of them is being able to dress smartly

If you want to get children ready for a working environment, school is the last place you should send them. Well almost the last.

by forcing all children to conform to brutal totalitarianism we can root out any class distinction or anything else that they may use to distinguish between each other

next thing on the chopping block....names.

I'll be number 21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_henchmen#.2321), you be number 24 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_henchmen#.2324)

apart from all that stuff on equality, getting used to work, looking smart and such

equality requires individuality rather than mandated conformity. and breaking stereotypes and the hold that stupid conservative values have on the world is a good thing that ought be encouraged.

so your not going to teach your children when to back down? interesting that

only back down when you are either wrong or in a hopeless situation (and even then, don't surrender more than you have to and leave your enemy in a weaker position if at all possible)

If you want to get children ready for a working environment, school is the last place you should send them. Well almost the last.

are you suggesting we don't teach children English and Maths both of which will prove useful to them in the working world?

It also has a Racially Proper percentage of blacks, 0%.


This is stupid.
I don't even care about the fact that she's dying her hair in memory of her father - there's no earthly reason to prohibit students from dying their hair, period, and I'm rather disgusted by the commenters on that site who are arguing that children should be taught to follow rules even if they're stupid or unfair.
I guess the school principal has been to Japan recently. They force you to dye your hair if it's not black...

If you want to get children ready for a working environment, school is the last place you should send them.

disagree. it is precisely because the modern school system was designed as part of a system for producing workers that it sucks so goddamn much.

next thing on the chopping block....names.

I'll be number 21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_henchmen#.2321), you be number 24 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_henchmen#.2324)

well actually you will have a number on your file iirc :p

equality requires individuality rather than mandated conformity. and breaking stereotypes and the hold that stupid conservative values have on the world is a good thing that ought be encouraged.

however thats not what happens at all is it? *points at goth kids*

only back down when you are either wrong or in a hopeless situation (and even then, don't surrender more than you have to and leave your enemy in a weaker position if at all possible)

or if its more convenient, welcome to compromise :wink:

however thats not what happens at all is it? *points at goth kids*

what about them?

or if its more convenient, welcome to compromise :wink:

only democrats think surrender and compromise are the same thing.
if you get a compromise out of the deal, you have advanced rather than retreated.

what about them?

kids dress in uniform regardless however a school uniform is universal and non-exclusionary

only democrats think surrender and compromise are the same thing.

well they are...hence why surrender exists as a word

if you get a compromise out of the deal, you have advanced rather than retreated.

if you have retreated you have cut your losses also an advance from the previous situation

next thing on the chopping block....names.

I'll be number 21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_henchmen#.2321), you be number 24 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_henchmen#.2324)
Agreed, but only if I can be number 6 (http://www.tvsquad.com/media/2006/05/prisoner.jpg).

Well, at least this shows that we in the UK don't have the monopoly on fascist school authorities pissing all over individuality. A few years back, my old school sent home dozens of students who had sprayed their hair red for the day as part of a recognised national fundraising campaign for the Comic Relief charity.

As appears to be the case here, the excuse used on that occasion was "oh, they need to look smart all the time in school when kids or they won't be able to do so when they go to work, which will damage their chances of succeeding in the workplace"...really? As if people are so thick that if its not drummed into them for years they're all going to leave school and think "oh no, because my school was a little lenient on uniform I am unable to comprehend how to put on these smart clothes, after trying and failing to do this for several hours I must go into work looking a mess, get sacked, give up on the idea of a legitimate career, buy some crack, rob a bank and beat up old ladies." What a total festering, steaming pile of reactionary hyper-pish. Children are going to be forced into dull conformity when they grow up, at least allow them a shred of individuality when they're young.

As if people are so thick that if its not drummed into them for years they're all going to leave school and think "oh no, because my school was a little lenient on uniform I am unable to comprehend how to put on these smart clothes, after trying and failing to do this for several hours I must go into work looking a mess, get sacked, give up on the idea of a legitimate career, buy some crack, rob a bank and beat up old ladies."
My school wasn't pushy at all on uniform, and then I went to a sixth form college where I didn't have to wear one at all, and I don't think it's done me any harm. I mean, I'd probably still have zero work ethic even if I was forced to wear a uniform all the time.

Admittedly, it wasn't a bad uniform - black jumper, polo shirt, trousers kind of beats the shirt and blazer crap that a lot of schools have.

I do think it's fairly ridiculous, to a point, forcing kids to wear uniforms.

Agreed, but only if I can be number 6 (http://www.tvsquad.com/media/2006/05/prisoner.jpg).

and I'll be Number 2.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/RobertWagner3.jpg

My school wasn't pushy at all on uniform, and then I went to a sixth form college where I didn't have to wear one at all, and I don't think it's done me any harm. I mean, I'd probably still have zero work ethic even if I was forced to wear a uniform all the time.

Admittedly, it wasn't a bad uniform - black jumper, polo shirt, trousers kind of beats the shirt and blazer crap that a lot of schools have.

I do think it's fairly ridiculous, to a point, forcing kids to wear uniforms.

At my school, there was a fixed date every spring when people were allowed to wear a shirt without a quite thick jacket/blazer-type thing over the top. It could be absolutely boiling hot, but if it hadn't been officially declared you didn't have to wear it, woe betide anyone who walked around without it. And at speech day, one year it was over 30 degrees centigrade, but they rejected the idea that people could just not wear the blazer, instead assigning members of staff to observe the students and remove any who looked like they were about to faint from the heat. The total and utter asshattery of my school may colour my opinions towards restrictive uniforms somewhat

Many people for some strange reason think that )jr.) High School is the easiest time of a person's life when its in fact one of the worst. You are going through many physical and emotional changes and in the meantime have to put up with the stress caused by drugs, violence, sex, your peers, and incompetent/corrupt authority figures while spending 8 hours a day being forced to do something you don't like. In fact its not really any different from 'real life'!

Imagine if she'd shaved her head to raise money for cancer. That would have been distracting in the extreme! Good on the school for ensuring the other students could focus on their studies.

kids dress in uniform regardless however a school uniform is universal and non-exclusionary

freely chosen subcultural signifiers are a sign of equality. mandates from on high about what everyone must wear are a sign of subservience.

Imagine if she'd shaved her head to raise money for cancer. That would have been distracting in the extreme! Good on the school for ensuring the other students could focus on their studies.

I must say I worry for students who would find themselves so disturbed and shocked by someone having a different colour hair than previously that they are incapable of focusing on their studies for the rest of the day. God knows how they'd react to the first real trauma of their life.

so your not going to teach your children when to back down? interesting that

Oh, I'll teach them when to back down. I just don't think "whenever anybody tells you to do anything, regardless of whether it seems sensible or fair to you" is that time.

At my school, there was a fixed date every spring when people were allowed to wear a shirt without a quite thick jacket/blazer-type thing over the top. It could be absolutely boiling hot, but if it hadn't been officially declared you didn't have to wear it, woe betide anyone who walked around without it.
Sounds quite like the military to me.

Sounds quite like the military to me.

not exactly coincidental, that. you may also note some overlap with the way both workplaces and prisons are run too...

At my school, there was a fixed date every spring when people were allowed to wear a shirt without a quite thick jacket/blazer-type thing over the top. It could be absolutely boiling hot, but if it hadn't been officially declared you didn't have to wear it, woe betide anyone who walked around without it. And at speech day, one year it was over 30 degrees centigrade, but they rejected the idea that people could just not wear the blazer, instead assigning members of staff to observe the students and remove any who looked like they were about to faint from the heat. The total and utter asshattery of my school may colour my opinions towards restrictive uniforms somewhat

All hail der principal!

Sounds quite like the military to me.

Ah, I was wondering what the Year 9 geography field trip to Afghanistan back in late 2001 was about. Unfortunately, no-one managed to complete the last item on the worksheet "find Bin Laden's cave", so the teacher failed the whole class:(

On a serious note, yep it was a bit like that.

and I'll be Number 2.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/RobertWagner3.jpg
Who is NUMBER ONE?!!

Who is NUMBER ONE?!!

http://www.durfee.net/startrek/images/Riker1.jpg

http://www.durfee.net/startrek/images/Riker1.jpg
really? him? I always thought of him as a number two. A great big steaming number two. Spock would've kicked his ass easy.

Anyone here watched "The Prisoner"? I recently got a full set and have been pacing myself through it. Totally trippy 60's stuff.

The school has a uniform policy, she got a warning for breaking it, chose to ignore it and now has to face the consequences.

My school was one of those with shirts, ties, and blazers compulsory. I liked it, then and now.



Anyone here watched "The Prisoner"? I recently got a full set and have been pacing myself through it. Totally trippy 60's stuff.

I watched all of it in a marathon at a friends house, it's trippy right to the end. Apparently Patrick Mcgoohan's an alcoholic recluse now.

The hair can be seen as a distraction to others who might actually want to learn.

The hair can be seen as a distraction to others who might actually want to learn.

No. Not really. That's a popular misconception. You see it, you react, you get on with life. If it's still a distraction to anyone after that, the problem is with those so "distracted". If pink hair is enough to truly distract someone, then how on Earth does anyone manage to learn at all, with all the colors and shapes present in every classroom?

Shit fire and save matches, man.

My school doesn't allow unnatural hair colors. Every spring, a few girls sneak pink or blue highlights under some of the layers in their hair. Somehow, the rest of us manage to complete our finals. It must be magic.

We also have a "strict uniform policy." Certain colors of polo shirts, black/brown belt, khaki pants, capris, shorts, or skirts (of certain lengths and styles). It wouldn't be so annoying if the administration stopped trying to pull crap like they did this year (No more than three buttons! It's not a polo shirt! What? We didn't add that into the rule book? Oh, well, try to have three of them buttoned!). It just causes drama with the moms complaining, the teachers yelling at the moms after following them to their workplace, etc. And certain chosen groups (those affiliated with sports) are often allowed to wear those uniforms on game days, while the rest of the organizations get told to shut up and cheer.

I think I'll be 47 (http://gaygamer.net/images/Agent47.jpg)

That girl is so damn plain-looking, the only way for her to be visually distracting is if she were running around naked. Or maybe if she had a tattoo of "Fuck the System" on her forehead, although even that would get old after a while.

I think I'll be 47 (http://gaygamer.net/images/Agent47.jpg)

yeah,47 with AMT Silverballers and a garrotte

The hair can be seen as a distraction to others who might actually want to learn.

If Pink highlighted hair is distracting you from learning, you arn't interested in hearing the teacher drone on about algebra or english or what not.

School administrators are always clueless authoritarians.

EDIT: You know what hair style is distracting? Mullets. But you don't see those banned.

That is cocked-up.

She should.... doot doot doot dooooooooo! Call the ACLU.

Somehow, I have a feeling if another girl came in with pink streaks in her weave, nobody would care. Why? It happened at my own highschool, repeatedly.


Junior year, after a slew of dumb blonde jokes from a math teacher (and the appearance of my first few grey streaks), I dyed my hair. It went horribly wrong, mind you, and appeared to be tinged with purple for several days. I literally had to bring the dye box in to prove I hadn't put something similar to Manic Panic or the like on my head. (I thought it was pretty damn obvious -- I went from blonde with a few grey bits to a dark brown with a burgundy tint.) I was repeatedly sent to the office with complaints about my hair, likely because it was washing out, and thus appeared to change colours every day or two. This went on until I pointed out that my classmates had red, yellow, and neon green in their WEAVE, and hadn't been bothered at all. I know it sounds stupid, but the more I asked around, the more I saw this double standard across the city. It all came down to a cost issue -- apparently, since it's cheaper to go buy another box of hair dye than it is to go have weave removed or changed out, the girls with dyed hair get all the grief.


It kind of makes me wonder if she's got a classmate or two with unnatural things poking out of his or her head.

stops little Timmy no parents from getting stomped on the playground really



Not really. Kids find ways to viciously pick on each other regardless of dress. uniforms are just a way of limiting personal freedom and expression and stifling dissent.

try to keep a bit of class within the school and ensure that we represent the school in a uniform fashion, so we don't have jackass' (no she isn't one but I was one weekend after winning the grand final) rocking up to school with half their hair white and the other red.

Wait.... a human, you say, with two colors in her hair?

HOLY SHIT. IT'S THE MARK OF THE BEAST. THE END IS NIGH!

EDIT: You know what hair style is distracting? Mullets. But you don't see those banned.

Actually in my high school if the mullet went below the shoulder, then it was banned.

Wait.... a human, you say, with two colors in her hair?

HOLY SHIT. IT'S THE MARK OF THE BEAST. THE END IS NIGH!

Actually I'm a male, but still it was against the school rules to have your hair of an unnatural colour.

Sounds quite like the military to me.

I've been in military units that weren't as anal as that.