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America is the Greatest Place on Earth

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Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:22
Despite all of the bad-mouthing on this forum, America is, by far, the greatest place on Earth.
Sdaeriji
23-08-2008, 01:23
How do you know? Have you been to every place on Earth?
Ashmoria
23-08-2008, 01:23
damned straight

especially if you are talking about the totality of the americas from canada to tierra del fuego!
Holy Cheese and Shoes
23-08-2008, 01:24
damned straight

especially if you are talking about the totality of the americas from canada to tierra del fuego!

Don't make me wiki your ass!

BTW, to the OP: No, the greatest place on Earth is my pants. I'm sure all the arguments you have for America also count for my pants, but are beaten by the additional reason of "I'm wearing them".
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:27
How do you know? Have you been to every place on Earth?

I spent five-weeks backpacking across Europe this summer. AND I watched Phelps kick everyone's ass at the Olympics (on TV, didn't go to Beijing).
USA! USA!
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:27
If its so great then why do you find the need to post on NSG rather than exploiting America's greatness?
Maraque
23-08-2008, 01:28
America is far from the greatest place on Earth. There is no such thing as the greatest place.
[NS]Moon Knight
23-08-2008, 01:29
If we are so great why does half the world hate our guts?
Snafturi
23-08-2008, 01:29
We are the best for one reason, and one reason only. Government cheese.
Sdaeriji
23-08-2008, 01:29
I spent five-weeks backpacking across Europe this summer. AND I watched Phelps kick everyone's ass at the Olympics (on TV, didn't go to Beijing).
USA! USA!

So, what you're saying is that you HAVEN'T been to every place in the world? I hardly see how you are an expert on the greatest places on Earth if you haven't been to them all. It's like you're being entirely subjective and arbitrary, based on your very limited personal experiences.
1010102
23-08-2008, 01:29
Yes. We are the best country on Earth. We might not be the best in everything, but we're the greatest.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:29
Moon Knight;13947013']If we are so great why does half the world hate our guts?

Cause they are not so great at being friendly to America.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:30
Yes. We are the best country on Earth. We might not be the best in everything, but we're the greatest.

Not the best at anything or the greatest at anything but hey, that doesn't mean your not great!
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:30
America is far from the greatest place on Earth. There is no such thing as the greatest place.

Wrong. The word "Greatest" implies relative excellence by comparison to other places. Therefore, while not "Perfect" (the word you should've used), America is better than every other place, therefore it is the "greatest place."
Sirmomo1
23-08-2008, 01:32
I spent five-weeks backpacking across Europe this summer. AND I watched Phelps kick everyone's ass at the Olympics (on TV, didn't go to Beijing).
USA! USA!

If we're going by the Olympics then China is the greatest country in the world. Congratulations Communist party - Integritopia thinks you've done a wonderful job.
Trostia
23-08-2008, 01:32
Despite all of the bad-mouthing on this forum, America is, by far, the greatest place on Earth.

If that were true, Americans - i.e., you - would be able to put forth convincing arguments. Since you can't, it isn't. Q.E.D!
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:33
If we're going by the Olympics then China is the greatest country in the world. Congratulations Communist party - Integritopia thinks you've done a wonderful job.

Whoa- pump the brakes.
I said PHELPS kicked ass. That man is a national icon. If you break it down by Medals/Capita...we beat China hands down.
1010102
23-08-2008, 01:34
Not the best at anything or the greatest at anything but hey, that doesn't mean your not great!

Here's why we are better than everyone else.:
1. We have guns.
2. We have freedom.
3. We aren't a nanny state that makes 1984 look like a free soceity coughBritiancough.
4. We took the best of everyone else and made them our own.
Sirmomo1
23-08-2008, 01:35
Whoa- pump the brakes.
I said PHELPS kicked ass. That man is a national icon. If you break it down by Medals/Capita...we beat China hands down.

I think you'll find that if you break it down by Medals/Capita WE beat you hands down.

UK!UK!UK!UK!
Sdaeriji
23-08-2008, 01:36
Using medals per capita makes The Bahamas the greatest place on Earth.

Which might not be far from truth.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2008, 01:38
Using medals per capita makes The Bahamas the greatest place on Earth.

Which might not be far from truth.

Isn't that only for this year, though?
If we look at all-time totals, I think France holds that title.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:39
Here's why we are better than everyone else.:
1. We have guns.
2. We have freedom.
3. We aren't a nanny state that makes 1984 look like a free soceity coughBritiancough.
4. We took the best of everyone else and made them our own.

1) other people have guns
2) Your freedom is just a proxy to do what your told
3) No but you do suck at sticking to your constitution and respecting peoples rights
4) You also took the worst of a lot of things and blamed it on everyone else
Nice Magical Hats
23-08-2008, 01:39
The greatest place on Earth is actually the south-west corner of my back garden. It has electric lighting, chocolate, and a monkey.
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:40
If that were true, Americans - i.e., you - would be able to put forth convincing arguments. Since you can't, it isn't. Q.E.D!

Ah, it's a debate you want, eh?

Alright, let's throw hands (with words).

Argument one:

The United States is the birthplace of global popular culture (i.e. movies, music, video games, comedy)...When we include Canada, we've covered most of the spectrum (outside of the UK...a.k.a the home of Spice World, Oasis, and the Beatles).

Argument two:

Americans are interesting. You yourself have already spent at least a moment of your free time discussing America with an American.

Argument three:

Americans have AWESOME teeth.

Argument four:

We've had constitutional government longer than anyone else on Earth.

Argument five:

Barack Obama is American.

Argument six:

Hawaii


This could go on and on.
Sdaeriji
23-08-2008, 01:40
Isn't that only for this year, though?
If we look at all-time totals, I think France holds that title.

Well that only means that France USED to be the greatest place on Earth, using this particular arbitrary set of determining conditions. Currently, The Bahamas is the greatest place on Earth, at least until Vancouver 2010 (unless only the Summer Games count).
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:40
I think you'll find that if you break it down by Medals/Capita WE beat you hands down.

UK!UK!UK!UK!

Wow the UK achieving something? :eek2:
Soviet KLM Empire
23-08-2008, 01:42
Despite all of the bad-mouthing on this forum, America is, by far, the greatest place on Earth.

ha ha good joke.
Ryadn
23-08-2008, 01:42
Here's why we are better than everyone else.:
1. We have guns.
2. We have freedom.
3. We aren't a nanny state that makes 1984 look like a free soceity coughBritiancough.
4. We took the best of everyone else and made them our own.

1. Which are put to excellent use in my city. Remember, kids, you can't have drive-by knifings!
2. Too amorphous to rule on. Of expression? Yes. Of election? Not so much.
3. We also have the highest infant mortality rate and the highest percentage of children living in poverty than any industrialized nation. But I do have the freedom to point that fact out.
4. Or made them slaves. Or exploited them for cheap labor and then rounded them up and shipped them back to Mexico.
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:42
I think you'll find that if you break it down by Medals/Capita WE beat you hands down.

UK!UK!UK!UK!


Yeah, the UK is awesome *sarcasm*. Who wants tea instead of coffee? Besides, the Queen is Earth's wealthiest welfare recipient.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:43
ha ha good joke.

Meh I couldn't be bothered to find it funny.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2008, 01:43
Well that only means that France USED to be the greatest place on Earth, using this particular arbitrary set of determining conditions. Currently, The Bahamas is the greatest place on Earth, at least until Vancouver 2010 (unless only the Summer Games count).

Actually, a quick wiki search has revealed that France, the UK and Switzerland are tied for greatest place on earth (as determined by # of medals won over every modern olympics).

For total won by a single athlete, its currently the USA, thanks to Phelps, although the Soviet Union is in a close second.
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:44
1. Which are put to excellent use in my city. Remember, kids, you can't have drive-by knifings!
2. Too amorphous to rule on. Of expression? Yes. Of election? Not so much.
3. We also have the highest infant mortality rate and the highest percentage of children living in poverty than any industrialized nation. But I do have the freedom to point that fact out.
4. Or made them slaves. Or exploited them for cheap labor and then rounded them up and shipped them back to Mexico.

Wow, interesting. According to the 2007-2008 United Nations HR Report, quite a few industrialized nations beat us when it comes to infant mortality...Russia, for one.
1010102
23-08-2008, 01:44
I forgot one.

5. We have The Colbert Report.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:44
Yeah, the UK is awesome *sarcasm*. Who wants tea instead of coffee? Besides, the Queen is Earth's wealthiest welfare recipient.

Pfff the UK has a hell of a lot of coffee as well. They don't call the money they give the Queen welfare, gawd.
Ryadn
23-08-2008, 01:46
Personally, I think our biggest contribution to the world was the chocolate chip cookie. We've been downhill since. Although, really, what could trump the chocolate chip cookie?
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:46
Meh I couldn't be bothered to find it funny.

Yeah, us saving Europe (where you allegedly live) from the Nazis is funny?
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:46
I forgot one.

5. We have The Colbert Report.

No idea what that is, but I've heard it be mentioned before.
Katganistan
23-08-2008, 01:46
Despite all of the bad-mouthing on this forum, America is, by far, the greatest place on Earth.
Whatever patch of ground you happen to love being on is the greatest place on earth.
Sdaeriji
23-08-2008, 01:47
Actually, a quick wiki search has revealed that France, the UK and Switzerland are tied for greatest place on earth (as determined by # of medals won over every modern olympics).

For total won by a single athlete, its currently the USA, thanks to Phelps, although the Soviet Union is in a close second.

You're really going to turn this into an actual debate?
Snafturi
23-08-2008, 01:47
Yeah, the UK is awesome *sarcasm*. Who wants tea instead of coffee? Besides, the Queen is Earth's wealthiest welfare recipient.

Yes, because England is the only country in the world with a monarch that recieves their money from taxes.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:47
Yeah, us saving Europe (where you allegedly live) from the Nazis is funny?

Yep 'cause the whole war effort relied on you guys :rolleyes: and its not funny considering how things have turned out cause of US culture.
Trostia
23-08-2008, 01:47
Ah, it's a debate you want, eh?

I suppose it might be vaguely different from watching you drool.

Argument one:

The United States is the birthplace of global popular culture (i.e. movies, music, video games, comedy)...When we include Canada, we've covered most of the spectrum (outside of the UK...a.k.a the home of Spice World, Oasis, and the Beatles).

You've already compromised by 1) including Canda and 2) excluding the UK. Essentially you're arguing, "We're the greatest, as long as we pretend that Canada is a part of the US and that the UK doesn't exist..."

Argument two:

Americans are interesting. You yourself have already spent at least a moment of your free time discussing America with an American.

All people can be interesting. You yourself are only interesting as a sock-puppet for me to barely conceal my contempt for while mercilessly slaughtering your arguments and publicly humiliating you.

Not exactly a reason why the country you live in is the greatest place on Earth. ;)

Argument three:

Americans have AWESOME teeth.

I know you're just trolling, but you could at least put up a fight.

Argument four:

We've had constitutional government longer than anyone else on Earth.

There are plenty of old women who've had great tits for a longer period of time than young women, but that doesn't mean old women have great tits *now* does it?

Argument five:

Barack Obama is American.


So is Dick Cheney.


Argument six:

Hawaii

Ooh, a pretty place.

There are pretty places everywhere. Just like there are interesting people. Except for you.


This could go on and on.

But the outcome would still be the same.
Ifreann
23-08-2008, 01:48
The Marianas Trench is the best place in the world. Prove me wrong.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:48
Yes, because England is the only country in the world with a monarch that recieves their money from taxes.

Well I'm quiet sure the US rulers get money from taxes too.
Sdaeriji
23-08-2008, 01:48
Personally, I think our biggest contribution to the world was the chocolate chip cookie. We've been downhill since. Although, really, what could trump the chocolate chip cookie?

Ultimate Frisbee.
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:48
Yes, because England is the only country in the world with a monarch that recieves their money from taxes.

No, but she is the wealthiest.
Soviet KLM Empire
23-08-2008, 01:49
Yep 'cause the whole war effort relied on you guys :rolleyes: and its not funny considering how things have turned out cause of US culture.

Without us, USA would of never of won on their front.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2008, 01:49
You're really going to turn this into an actual debate?

You actually think I'm serious?

Oh, sorry, answering a question with another question is rude.

I can't believe you thought I was serious.
Snafturi
23-08-2008, 01:49
The Marianas Trench is the best place in the world. Prove me wrong.

Their government cheese tastes like ass. Fail!
Sdaeriji
23-08-2008, 01:49
Uh oh, this thread is getting super serious.
Derscon
23-08-2008, 01:49
The US of A is the greatest place on earth because it is the only place on earth.
Ryadn
23-08-2008, 01:50
Wow, interesting. According to the 2007-2008 United Nations HR Report, quite a few industrialized nations beat us when it comes to infant mortality...Russia, for one.

I was referencing the last report I saw, which was the 2006 report where the only country worse than us was Latvia. Good to know we've moved up a spot.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2008, 01:50
Without us, USA would of never of won on their front.

Of course, without the USA the war would've been years longer, even more bloody, and the USSR would probably have been so depopulated that it ceased to exist as a single entity. And Jo Stalin most likely would have killed himself.
Snafturi
23-08-2008, 01:50
No, but she is the wealthiest.

You're quite sure of that? Constitutional monarchies tend to take good care of their monarchs.
Sirmomo1
23-08-2008, 01:50
Yeah, the UK is awesome *sarcasm*. Who wants tea instead of coffee? Besides, the Queen is Earth's wealthiest welfare recipient.

I don't know, I don't drink tea. The UK is the greatest country in the world because it's the only country in the world to contain London, the greatest city in the world. UNDENIABLE LOGIC.
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:51
I suppose it might be vaguely different from watching you drool.



You've already compromised by 1) including Canda and 2) excluding the UK. Essentially you're arguing, "We're the greatest, as long as we pretend that Canada is a part of the US and that the UK doesn't exist..."



All people can be interesting. You yourself are only interesting as a sock-puppet for me to barely conceal my contempt for while mercilessly slaughtering your arguments and publicly humiliating you.

Not exactly a reason why the country you live in is the greatest place on Earth. ;)



I know you're just trolling, but you could at least put up a fight.



There are plenty of old women who've had great tits for a longer period of time than young women, but that doesn't mean old women have great tits *now* does it?



So is Dick Cheney.



Ooh, a pretty place.

There are pretty places everywhere. Just like there are interesting people. Except for you.




But the outcome would still be the same.

Hahaha. My goodness, your raw intellect blows me away. (FYI you meant to spell it CANADA not CANDA).

Where, dare I ask, do you live?
1010102
23-08-2008, 01:51
1. Which are put to excellent use in my city. Remember, kids, you can't have drive-by knifings!
2. Too amorphous to rule on. Of expression? Yes. Of election? Not so much.
3. We also have the highest infant mortality rate and the highest percentage of children living in poverty than any industrialized nation. But I do have the freedom to point that fact out.
4. Or made them slaves. Or exploited them for cheap labor and then rounded them up and shipped them back to Mexico.

1. You sure?
2. Which is why I have the freedom to not care.
3. I'm not an infant so I could care less.
4. The past is the past.
5. Like I said we have the Colbert Report
6. We have guns. I'm saying it again because guns are cool, and fun to use.
7. We're better than you.
8. I'm from there, so that makes it the greatest place on Earth.
9. The Jews rule the world from here.
10. We made the F-14.
Snafturi
23-08-2008, 01:52
Oh, we also are the nation with the fewest vacation days given to employees and we work the most hours! Yes, we pwn.
Derscon
23-08-2008, 01:52
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l91/empyreanimperator/demotivators/America.jpg
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:52
Of course, without the USA the war would've been years longer, even more bloody, and the USSR would probably have been so depopulated that it ceased to exist as a single entity. And Jo Stalin most likely would have killed himself.

Yeah lets not get into a WW2 what if scenario please.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:53
Oh, we also are the nation with the fewest vacation days given to employees and we work the most hours! Yes, we pwn.

Ha but us Britons earn less!
Trostia
23-08-2008, 01:53
Hahaha. My goodness, your raw intellect blows me away. (FYI you meant to spell it CANADA not CANDA).

Congratulations on your ability to spot obvious typos.

Where, dare I ask, do you live?

California - the greatest place on Earth.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2008, 01:53
[IMG]http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l91/empyreanimperator/demotivators/America.jpg[IMG]

And shoot your officers, too. ;)
New Manvir
23-08-2008, 01:54
damned straight

especially if you are talking about the totality of the americas from canada to tierra del fuego!

Woohoo!! New World FTW!
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:54
Yeah lets not get into a WW2 what if scenario please.

Oh, there's also that little thing called the Marshall Plan...you know...that thing that kept Europe from collapsing into dire poverty.
Derscon
23-08-2008, 01:54
What if, instead of Stalin, it was Optimus Prime leading the USSR?
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:55
Congratulations on your ability to spot obvious typos.



California - the greatest place on Earth.

California? The hell hole California?
Snafturi
23-08-2008, 01:55
Ha but us Britons earn less!

But you don't pay for your own healthcare! That's an honor and a right we had to fight for!
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2008, 01:56
What if, instead of Stalin, it was Optimus Prime leading the USSR?

Then I, for one, would welcome our new robot overlords.
Also, transforming T-34's! FUCK YEAH.
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:56
Congratulations on your ability to spot obvious typos.



California - the greatest place on Earth.

Congratulations on YOUR ability to agree with me!

California is in America...if California is the greatest place on Earth, America can't be too shabby.
Sirmomo1
23-08-2008, 01:56
To be semi-serious for a minute, I used to live in America and it's quite good in many respects but there are many countries I'd rather live in.

Now where was I? Oh yeah, the United Kingdom is the only country in the world to beat Germany in the 1966 world cup and in both world wars (and from the start!). Rule Brittania! God save the Queen and all who sail in her!
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:56
Oh, there's also that little thing called the Marshall Plan...you know...that thing that kept Europe from collapsing into dire poverty.

Well the US half heartedly helped and only really to stop us form becoming communist. And the plan failed considering how impoverish Britain is.
West Pacific Asia
23-08-2008, 01:56
In terms of the greatest places in the world:

1.UK, US, Japan, Isreal, Canada, Germany, France, New Zealand, Italy & Australia.
2.Everyone else is tied for second place.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:57
But you don't pay for your own healthcare! That's an honor and a right we had to fight for!

You can't call that healthcare when your more likely to get a disease or infection IN the hospital than out (based on some of the hospitals of course)
And we pay for it in our very high taxes.
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 01:57
Well the US half heartedly helped and only really to stop us form becoming communist. And the plan failed considering how impoverish Britain is.

Oh no you didn't

You're right, pumping countless millions into Britain through NATO and other relief MUST have been trivial.
Ryadn
23-08-2008, 01:58
Ultimate Frisbee.

We're talking about reasons the U.S. is great, not reasons it should be taken 'round the back of the house, shot and cooked for dinner.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 01:58
In terms of the greatest places in the world:

1.UK, US, Japan, Isreal, Canada, Germany, France, New Zealand, Italy & Australia.
2.Everyone else is tied for second place.

Israel is crap, the UK is crap but the other countries are meh-able although France doesn't seem that good.
Soviet KLM Empire
23-08-2008, 01:59
In terms of the greatest places in the world:

1.UK, US, Japan, Isreal, Canada, Germany, France, New Zealand, Italy & Australia.
2.Everyone else is tied for second place.

You seem to have missed Russia....
Dear Leader Haimrich
23-08-2008, 01:59
There is no greatest place in the world until you define " greatest", "greatest" being rather subjective.
For example, were some deranged individual to believe that "greatest" ought to be measured by " how much the government abuses its people" then, say, Zimbabwe would be heaven.
Define greatest, then explain why the USA is greatest.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2008, 01:59
Oh no you didn't

You're right, pumping countless millions into Britain through NATO and other relief MUST have been trivial.

About 13 billion in total, if I remember aright.

Which, converted from 1947 dollars totals...136,684,540,038.96. Hooray for inflation calculators.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:00
Oh no you didn't

You're right, pumping countless millions into Britain through NATO and other relief MUST have been trivial.

Well yes it is trivial, cause millions of pounds/dollars is a very tiny sum in comparison to how much was needed and how much Britain earned. And Britain joined NATO just to feel "included" in something after they lost the greater amount of their empire.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:01
About 13 billion in total, if I remember aright.

Which, converted from 1947 dollars totals...136,684,540,038.96. Hooray for inflation calculators.

There's no need to count inflation, since it was money THEN not now.
Sdaeriji
23-08-2008, 02:01
You seem to have missed Russia....

I'm sure that was totally by accident, too.
Andaluciae
23-08-2008, 02:02
I've often thought that America, like most countries (I'm not thinking about you Lesotho...sorry) is too big to be considered "one place". It's too damn diverse of a place, with its fair share of both crap and awesome.

Personally, I'd daresay that Ohio is not the best place in America, despite my 22+ years of being a resident.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:02
You seem to have missed Russia....

Nah Russia just wasn't invited to the party.
Derscon
23-08-2008, 02:02
There is no greatest place in the world until you define " greatest", "greatest" being rather subjective.
For example, were some deranged individual to believe that "greatest" ought to be measured by " how much the government abuses its people" then, say, Zimbabwe would be heaven.
Define greatest, then explain why the USA is greatest.

You completely fail for taking this seriously.

You lose an internet.
Trostia
23-08-2008, 02:02
Congratulations on YOUR ability to agree with me!

California is in America

It may happen to be in America, but it isn't America.


...if California is the greatest place on Earth, America can't be too shabby.

In the awesome light of California's greatness, the rest of the place is even shabbier by comparison.

I take it since you ignored the ass-reaming I gave your trolling arguments you're conceding this pretend debate.
Ryadn
23-08-2008, 02:02
7. We're better than you.

Who is "you"?

Oh, we also are the nation with the fewest vacation days given to employees and we work the most hours! Yes, we pwn.

Only because we don't have a federal minimum, what's your point?

Dude, Pakistan is kicking our ass in vacation days. Seriously? Pakistan? *facepalm*
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:02
I'm sure that was totally by accident, too.

Yes, an accident ;SS
West Pacific Asia
23-08-2008, 02:02
Why does everyone keep insulting the Queen?

It isn't her fault she was born into a special family we recognise as the rightful holders of the throne in the UK.

It's also something I feel is an important part of our culture. Which is why I hope we keep the monarchy. Imagine telling an American you wanted to change the US flag and national anthem and such. I feel the same about getting rid of the Monarchy.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2008, 02:02
There is no greatest place in the world until you define " greatest", "greatest" being rather subjective.
For example, were some deranged individual to believe that "greatest" ought to be measured by " how much the government abuses its people" then, say, Zimbabwe would be heaven.
Define greatest, then explain why the USA is greatest.

We already agreed on a definition of 'greatest'. It was number of Olympic medals per capita. And also total number of Olympic medals. And most medals won by an individual.
Forsakia
23-08-2008, 02:03
Ah, it's a debate you want, eh?

Alright, let's throw hands (with words).

Argument one:

The United States is the birthplace of global popular culture (i.e. movies, music, video games, comedy)...When we include Canada, we've covered most of the spectrum (outside of the UK...a.k.a the home of Spice World, Oasis, and the Beatles).

I'm pretty sure music and comedy was around before the US, cinema was invented by a Frenchman (the US gets credit for developing them), video games I'll give you (as inventors, the Japanese developed them a lot).


Argument two:

Americans are interesting. You yourself have already spent at least a moment of your free time discussing America with an American.

Amusing perhaps


Argument three:

Americans have AWESOME teeth.

You really are trolling


Argument four:

We've had constitutional government longer than anyone else on Earth.

Wrong, off the top of my head San Marino beat you


Argument five:

Barack Obama is American.

Argument six:

Hawaii


This could go on and on.

You listing things that are often irrelevant or wrong?
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:04
Why does everyone keep insulting the Queen?

It isn't her fault she was born into a special family we recognise as the rightful holders of the throne in the UK.

It's also something I feel is an important part of our culture. Which is why I hope we keep the monarchy. Imagine telling an American you wanted to change the US flag and national anthem and such. I feel the same about getting rid of the Monarchy.

Meh the monarchy are there cause they feel sorry for them and don't have the heart to tell them their not needed.
Derscon
23-08-2008, 02:05
Main reason the US is the greatest: I live here, and I'm a god. Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2008, 02:05
There's no need to count inflation, since it was money THEN not now.

Yes, but the value of 13 billion dollars has decreased since then, its, you know, inflation. A nickle fifty years ago bought a lot more than a nickle nowadays.
Look at British currency. They used to half half and quarter penny denominations.
Sirmomo1
23-08-2008, 02:06
Israel is crap, the UK is crap but the other countries are meh-able although France doesn't seem that good.

My guesses as to the logic for each country: full of jews, some darkies, some darkies.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:06
Main reason the US is the greatest: I live here, and I'm a god. Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.

I'm not disagreeing I'm just not believing!
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:07
Yes, but the value of 13 billion dollars has decreased since then, its, you know, inflation. A nickle fifty years ago bought a lot more than a nickle nowadays.
Look at British currency. They used to half half and quarter penny denominations.

I know the pound used to have so many denominations, I think towards the end of the seventeenth century you were luckily to make £5 a year if you where just a "commoner".
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:08
My guesses as to the logic for each country: full of jews, some darkies, some darkies.

Well if you think that's how it should be rated, then you go of and think that -points to the corner away from everyone else-
Andaluciae
23-08-2008, 02:09
You seem to have missed Russia....

When considering "greatest place on Earth" one must consider climate. The ideal climate is not Russia.

Oh, and economies based off of something more than commodity exports, that, too, is a bonus.


Aftershave? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6752515.stm) I've heard of dumping Aqua Velva into a juice mix when you can't find a fifth in your apartment, but, seriously.
Dakini
23-08-2008, 02:10
Argument six:

Hawaii

This isn't a very good reason for the US being the best. As much as Hawaii is nice (or at least the Big Island is nice, I can't speak for the rest of it), it's really the best thing in the US (and it's barely in the US really) and the reasons it's good are entirely unrelated to it being a part of the US... which is basically, it's a beautiful tropical island chain and is the closest part of Polynesia to me (and has good surfing and diving) however, there are some negatives which are largely due to it being a part of the US such as the excessive amount of cheap crap marketed towards tourists and touristy feeling towards some of the places. I mean, Hilo isn't bad for it but from what I saw of Kona there was a lot of tourist junk and I've heard that Honolulu is worse.

Oh, but free buses that run across the island once a day = awesome.
New Manvir
23-08-2008, 02:10
People, people. you all need to calm down.

As a Canadian I feel I am obligated to be a peacekeeper here.

*puts on blue helmet and stands in between Americans and everyone else holding a whistle*
Snafturi
23-08-2008, 02:10
You can't call that healthcare when your more likely to get a disease or infection IN the hospital than out (based on some of the hospitals of course)
And we pay for it in our very high taxes.
We spread the wonderful gift of democracy to the world!
West Pacific Asia
23-08-2008, 02:10
Russia might be considered the greatest because this man came from there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5GmYeop2J4

Can't fault them for him.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:11
People, people. you all need to calm down.

As a Canadian I feel I am obligated to be a peacekeeper here.

*puts on blue helmet and stands in between Americans and everyone else holding a whistle*

Silly Canadian, nobody peace keeps with a whistle anymore
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:11
We spread the wonderful gift of democracy to the world!

The Macedonian's and Greeks did it better! and first!
Ryadn
23-08-2008, 02:14
California - the greatest place on Earth.

Oh, thank you, some sanity!

California? The hell hole California?

I take it you've been to every part of California, from Eureka to Salton City, yes? You must have an awfully lot of free time on your hands to travel that much.

Congratulations on YOUR ability to agree with me!

California is in America...if California is the greatest place on Earth, America can't be too shabby.

We're the best house on the block. Doesn't mean the block isn't ghetto.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:15
Oh, thank you, some sanity!



I take it you've been to every part of California, from Eureka to Salton City, yes? You must have an awfully lot of free time on your hands to travel that much.



We're the best house on the block. Doesn't mean the block isn't ghetto.

Well I got told it was a hell hole but just under half a dozen people, and your the only one to say otherwise so...
Ifreann
23-08-2008, 02:16
ALL PLACES ARE INFERIOR TO THE GLORY OF THE MARIANAS TRENCH!
*invents and sings the Marianas Trench national anthem*
Non Aligned States
23-08-2008, 02:16
Yes. We are the best country on Earth. We might not be the best in everything, but we're the greatest.

Hmm, greatest expenditure on military weapons among all nations, yes, I'll give you that.

One of the highest rich/poor divides among first world nations, definitely seems so, but we're not sure which is the "greatest"

Least amount of social care for the unfortunate in your society, well, there are worst, I'll give it that, but those are usually developing or third world countries.

People who can't even find their country on a world map. Not indicative of a whole, but certainly telling nevertheless.

You might want to define this "greatness".
Snafturi
23-08-2008, 02:16
Only because we don't have a federal minimum, what's your point?

Dude, Pakistan is kicking our ass in vacation days. Seriously? Pakistan? *facepalm*

That we are the only advanced nation in the world to not have a minimum number of sick or vacation days.
Dakini
23-08-2008, 02:16
I don't know, I don't drink tea. The UK is the greatest country in the world because it's the only country in the world to contain London, the greatest city in the world. UNDENIABLE LOGIC.
Canada contains a London. It's even got a Thames river and a covent garden market.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:18
Canada contains a London. It's even got a Thames river and a covent garden market.

Correction, Imitation London ;)
Maraque
23-08-2008, 02:18
Wrong. The word "Greatest" implies relative excellence by comparison to other places. Therefore, while not "Perfect" (the word you should've used), America is better than every other place, therefore it is the "greatest place."Don't tell me what words I should have used.

"Greatest" is a subjective term, therefore what may be great to you isn't to everyone. So no, America isn't the greatest country.
Ryadn
23-08-2008, 02:18
That we are the only advanced nation in the world to not have a minimum number of sick or vacation days.

Yeah, I... wait, I thought we were simultaneously sarcasming.
New Manvir
23-08-2008, 02:19
Silly Canadian, nobody peace keeps with a whistle anymore

Hey! Don't make me use this!

*puts whistle in mouth threateningly*
Ryadn
23-08-2008, 02:19
Well I got told it was a hell hole but just under half a dozen people, and your the only one to say otherwise so...

I'm the only one? Really? Jeez, I was already the only person you'd ever heard say that they found black people attractive. I think you need to talk to more people.
Andaluciae
23-08-2008, 02:20
Canada contains a London. It's even got a Thames river and a covent garden market.

I can speak to the first two, as we have both of them in the US as well. Covent Garden Market, I'm not as sure about, as I've never seen either, but it's more than plausible, given how we Americans steal the names of other places like we get paid to do it.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:20
Hey! Don't make me use this!

*puts whistle in mouth threateningly*

Don't you take that tone with me young man!
Snafturi
23-08-2008, 02:20
The Macedonian's and Greeks did it better! and first!

We've streamlined politics with the two party system.
New Manvir
23-08-2008, 02:20
Relevant.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4mCDZMWVWuc
Maineiacs
23-08-2008, 02:21
Yeah, us saving Europe (where you allegedly live) from the Nazis is funny?

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9529/shitvz7.png (http://imageshack.us)

Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself and the country.
Derscon
23-08-2008, 02:21
Russia might be considered the greatest because this man came from there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5GmYeop2J4

Can't fault them for him.

They also invented the helicockter.
ascarybear
23-08-2008, 02:21
For those of you who claim California is the best, I've seen Bakersfield.
The Scandinvans
23-08-2008, 02:22
If we're going by the Olympics then China is the greatest country in the world. Congratulations Communist party - Integritopia thinks you've done a wonderful job.Well, I disagree as China has been pulling the underage kid card, bribery, slavery, and make the IOC there bitch.
Ifreann
23-08-2008, 02:22
They also invented the helicockter.

Dongcopter>helicockter
Dakini
23-08-2008, 02:22
Main reason the US is the greatest: I live here, and I'm a god. Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.

Psh. Haven't you looked at my post count title? I'm a goddess and I live in Canada.

Therefore Canada wins.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:22
I'm the only one? Really? Jeez, I was already the only person you'd ever heard say that they found black people attractive. I think you need to talk to more people.

Or maybe its just I pretty much never talk to people about these things, you see there not hot topic on mine or my friends agenda.
Snafturi
23-08-2008, 02:22
Yeah, I... wait, I thought we were simultaneously sarcasming.

Yeah, that didn't quite come out as witty as I thought. :/
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:23
We've streamlined politics with the two party system.

You mean you've murdered it with the two party system?
New Manvir
23-08-2008, 02:24
Don't you take that tone with me young man!

I'm sorry, please don't cut my funding.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:24
Psh. Haven't you looked at my post count title? I'm a goddess and I live in Canada.

Therefore Canada wins.

I wonder whether the public can accept a Canadian Goddess
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:25
I'm sorry, please don't cut my funding.

Well then, now you know where you stand!
Snafturi
23-08-2008, 02:26
You mean you've murdered it with the two party system?

No, no. It simplifies everything. And saves money. See, the lobbists only have to buy two parties instead of multiple parties. And with the small difference between the two parties, we make the difficult choice very easy for the American public. We can now judge the canidates solely on their looks and funny youtube videos.
Derscon
23-08-2008, 02:26
I wonder whether the public can accept a Canadian Goddess

The term is unacceptable.
Dakini
23-08-2008, 02:26
I can speak to the first two, as we have both of them in the US as well. Covent Garden Market, I'm not as sure about, as I've never seen either, but it's more than plausible, given how we Americans steal the names of other places like we get paid to do it.
Oh, you haven't been to London, Ontario. Everything is ripped off from the England version.
New Manvir
23-08-2008, 02:26
Psh. Haven't you looked at my post count title? I'm a goddess and I live in Canada.

Therefore Canada wins.

woo hoo!

*waves miniature Canadian flag*
Dakini
23-08-2008, 02:28
I wonder whether the public can accept a Canadian Goddess
They don't have to accept me, I just am and they'll have to deal with it or I'll smite them or something.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:28
The term is unacceptable.

Argh it burns!
Non Aligned States
23-08-2008, 02:28
4. We took the best of everyone else and made them our own.

Greatness is defined by thievery? Explain the likes of the RIAA and MPAA then hmmm?
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:29
They don't have to accept me, I just am and they'll have to deal with it or I'll smite them or something.

Sure but first, lets change your title from Canadian to something a bit more pleasant on the ears.
Dakini
23-08-2008, 02:29
The term is unacceptable.
*smites*
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:30
*smites*

-Flees the impending smiting-
Dakini
23-08-2008, 02:30
Sure but first, lets change your title from Canadian to something a bit more pleasant on the ears.
Technically my title is just "goddess" the fact that I live in Canada is incidental... but my presence does make the entire country that much more awesome.
Ifreann
23-08-2008, 02:31
I wonder whether the public can accept a Canadian Goddess

Is she hot?
Fnarr-fnarr
23-08-2008, 02:32
Moon Knight;13947013']If we are so great why does half the world hate our guts?

Half the world? Probably closer to 90% of the world.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:32
Technically my title is just "goddess" the fact that I live in Canada is incidental... but my presence does make the entire country that much more awesome.

Well anyone can turn Canada into something better than before goddess or no.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:32
Is she hot?

She.Is.Canadian.
Ryadn
23-08-2008, 02:33
For those of you who claim California is the best, I've seen Bakersfield.

You can't judge us by Bakersfield. It's written into the state constitution, I'm pretty sure. Bakersfield is like that person who wasn't really invited to the party, they just happened to be around when you were talking about it and you couldn't think of a good excuse for them not to come, so they showed up with some weird snack no one touched, drank a lot of your beer and broke your lamp after crashing into it during a drunken imitation of Tom Cruise in Risky Business.

Or maybe its just I pretty much never talk to people about these things, you see there not hot topic on mine or my friends agenda.

Yeah, people and places are boring.
Neesika
23-08-2008, 02:33
All Canadians are hot. It's just how we roll.

(the ugly ones lose citizenship upon descending to a certain level of non-attractiveness. We call this the Rita McNeil point.)
Ifreann
23-08-2008, 02:34
She.Is.Canadian.

All Canadians are hot. It's just how we roll.

You both make very good arguments.
Ryadn
23-08-2008, 02:36
She.Is.Canadian.

So, yes?
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:37
So, yes?

...So?
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:38
You both make very good arguments.

Know you may now see the light :hail:
Dakini
23-08-2008, 02:43
Is she hot?
I'm totally hot.


...and am being called away for beer drinking...
Ifreann
23-08-2008, 02:45
Know you may now see the light :hail:
Woot!
I'm totally hot.


...and am being called away for beer drinking...

Hot and drinks. Excellent.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:46
I'm totally hot.


...and am being called away for beer drinking...

Oh mighty Goddess show us the -cough hotness cough- light so that we may follow in your shadow!
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 02:47
4. Or made them slaves.

Which we used to build our awesome, awesome country. Which makes it even more awesome, because we got so much of it for free.
Neesika
23-08-2008, 02:49
Which we used to build our awesome, awesome country. Which makes it even more awesome, because we got so much of it for free.

Killing off all the savage heathens only made that awesomeness hit fever pitch I'm sure.
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 02:50
Which we used to build our awesome, awesome country. Which makes it even more awesome, because we got so much of it for free.

Well in Britain we almost got it free and wrecked it for free, cause we got other people to do it for us!
CthulhuFhtagn
23-08-2008, 02:56
55% of the population of the United States is legally subhuman. Greatest country my ass.
The 37th divison
23-08-2008, 03:00
i wish a america was the greatest but next to other nations were (not including me) right winged guns (true sadly) and corupt poloticans

all hail binary econamics!
Hachihyaku
23-08-2008, 03:01
55% of the population of the United States is legally subhuman. Greatest country my ass.

But diversity is your strength :eek: apparently...
Euroslavia
23-08-2008, 03:46
Whatever patch of ground you happen to love being on is the greatest place on earth.

Couldn't agree more. To each their own.
Heikoku 2
23-08-2008, 04:49
A room with a cute Asian nympho cosplayer of age is the greatest place on Earth. :p
Vetalia
23-08-2008, 05:05
A room with a cute Asian nympho cosplayer of age is the greatest place on Earth. :p

Swap her with the girl that played Marlena in Cloverfield and I'll agree.
Lunatic Goofballs
23-08-2008, 05:08
Despite all of the bad-mouthing on this forum, America is, by far, the greatest place on Earth.

I keep all my stuff there. :)
Copiosa Scotia
23-08-2008, 05:12
I've seen a lot of the world. I'd rather live in America than anywhere else. But objectively the best? I don't know.
Intestinal fluids
23-08-2008, 05:14
One of the positive measures of how good a Country is, is the length of the line of people waiting to get in.
Heikoku 2
23-08-2008, 05:20
One of the positive measures of how good a Country is, is the length of the line of people waiting to get in.

Subtract from that the number of people taking advantage of your high living costs to send money back to their families, and you get...?

There is no such thing as a "greatest country on Earth". Claiming there is is mere dickwaving.

Magister dixit, someone should close this thread.
Sirmomo1
23-08-2008, 05:21
One of the positive measures of how good a Country is, is the length of the line of people waiting to get in.

So all Switzerland needs to do to become the best country in the world is to enforce a quota on immigrants but hand out $200,000 to those who few who get lucky?
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 05:23
Despite all of the bad-mouthing on this forum, America is, by far, the greatest place on Earth.

You're gods damned right it is.
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 05:24
You're gods damned right it is.

America, FUCK YEAH!
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 05:29
america, fuck yeah!

fuuuuuck yeeeaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 05:31
fuuuuuck yeeeaaaaaaaaaaaah!

it is the height of irony when certain people, try to express a position, by quoting a line from a movie that was designed to satirize that very position.
Deus Malum
23-08-2008, 05:31
America, FUCK YEAH!

fuuuuuck yeeeaaaaaaaaaaaah!

I have this vague feeling of an amusing bit of irony to this that may have just gone over his head, NA.

Edit: Son of a bitch.
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 05:32
I have this vague feeling of an amusing bit of irony to this that may have just gone over his head, NA.

quite. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13947689&postcount=175)
Deus Malum
23-08-2008, 05:34
quite. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13947689&postcount=175)

Yeah, yeah. You and your quick, lawyer fingers.
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 05:35
I have this vague feeling of an amusing bit of irony to this that may have just gone over his head, NA.

Edit: Son of a bitch.

quite. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13947689&postcount=175)

Oh I know it was meant as a satire, but I don't give a damn.

I was born and raised in the good ol' US of A. And I fucking love my country, despite our current problems.

I'll always love America.

So I'll say it loud, and proud.

America, FUCK YEAH!
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 05:35
Oh I know it was meant as a satire, but I don't give a damn.

That's kind of why it's funny.
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 05:36
Yeah, yeah. You and your quick, lawyer fingers.

at very least I wasn't the only one who saw that. I kinda can't believe he fell for it...
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 05:38
That's kind of why it's funny.

well the words quite frankly capture a lot of people's views, for good or ill, funny or not.
Poliwanacraca
23-08-2008, 05:38
it is the height of irony when certain people, try to express a position, by quoting a line from a movie that was designed to satirize that very position.

That was kinda awesome.

Also, you have a TG.
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 05:39
well the words quite frankly capture a lot of people's views, for good or ill, funny or not.

That's kinda why it's funny.
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 05:41
That's kinda why it's funny.

whatever
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 05:42
whatever

America, FUCK YEAH!
Deus Malum
23-08-2008, 05:43
at very least I wasn't the only one who saw that. I kinda can't believe he fell for it...

I can believe he's trying to defend it now, though. All of which is really funny in light of his generally anti-technology, anti-civilization views.
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 05:43
America, FUCK YEAH!

Yup.

Says it in my location, ya know?
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 05:44
I can believe he's trying to defend it now, though. All of which is really funny in light of his generally anti-technology, anti-civilization views.

I guess the patriotism was instilled in childhood. Hard to break out of.
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 05:44
Yup.

Says it in my location, ya know?

yeah, I know. That's what makes it funny. I don't think you're grasping that point. The fact that people like you actually exist is what makes the movie funny in the first place.
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 05:46
yeah, I know. That's what makes it funny. I don't think you're grasping that point.

The point that I'm using a phrase to describe my views that other people used to satirize my views? I think I got it.

edit: you added more:

"the fact that people like you exist make the movie funny"

What? People that love their country? Are proud of it? Happy to live there? hmm?
Deus Malum
23-08-2008, 05:46
yeah, I know. That's what makes it funny. I don't think you're grasping that point. The fact that people like you actually exist is what makes the movie funny in the first place.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 05:47
The point that I'm using a phrase to describe my views that other people used to satirize my views? I think I got it.

no, no I don't think you do. If you did, you'd understand that by doing so, you prove the entire premise of the movie correct.
Deus Malum
23-08-2008, 05:47
I guess the patriotism was instilled in childhood. Hard to break out of.

Now that is laughable.
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 05:50
no, no I don't think you do. If you did, you'd understand that by doing so, you prove the entire premise of the movie correct.

I actually never got around to watching the movie, lol. I just say the part with the America, fuck yeah song.
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 05:51
Now that is laughable.

Oh, haha.

I'm sure many of your views were instilled in childhood, as well. I don't think that's laughable.
Deus Malum
23-08-2008, 05:54
Oh, haha.

I'm sure many of your views were instilled in childhood, as well. I don't think that's laughable.

None in particular, no. See, that's the point of growing up. You start reevaluating the positions forced upon you in your youth, and you start to figure out which ones work, and which ones don't.

Rabidly holding a view just because ma and pa told you to hold that view is nothing short of asinine. And compounding that blind patriotism by parroting a line from a movie you've never seen and don't fully understand only makes you look more the fool.
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 05:56
Oh, haha.

I'm sure many of your views were instilled in childhood, as well. I don't think that's laughable.

actually, the whole point of adulthood is learning how to re-evaluate those things you took for granted as a child. The fact that you believed something as a child is not a reason to believe it as an adult.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
23-08-2008, 05:57
None in particular, no. See, that's the point of growing up. You start reevaluating the positions forced upon you in your youth, and you start to figure out which ones work, and which ones don't.
Not all of them. There are some things from your childhood that you'll never be able to escape, and all the existentialist crap about re-inventing yourself through thought won't change that.
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 05:58
None in particular, no. See, that's the point of growing up. You start reevaluating the positions forced upon you in your youth, and you start to figure out which ones work, and which ones don't.

Rabidly holding a view just because ma and pa told you to hold that view is nothing short of asinine. And compounding that blind patriotism by parroting a line from a movie you've never seen and don't fully understand only makes you look more the fool.

Well, I still do like America. Now I realize there is room, more room than there should be for improvement, but I still like my country. What is wrong with that?

I say the line from the movie in-spite of the movie. In spite of many of my fellow countrymen who seem to loathe their country, despite what it has done for them. So the fuck what? America is a great country, and I'm proud to have been born in it.
Skallvia
23-08-2008, 05:59
Idk, ive seen some great beachfront property on Rockall....
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 06:00
Well, I still do like America. Now I realize there is room, more room than there should be for improvement, but I still like my country. What is wrong with that?

What's wrong with liking the things you see positive about your country? Nothing.

What's wrong with rabidly, dogmatically clinging to the position that your country is the best in the world, without having been to all, or even the majority, or even a significant minority, of the countries in the world, and having extremely little experience from which to form that conclusion, all while claiming you believe that way because of childhood indoctrination? A whole lot.
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 06:01
Not all of them. There are some things from your childhood that you'll never be able to escape, and all the existentialist crap about re-inventing yourself through thought won't change that.

maybe you should try it some time.

edit: there was an emote that didn't make it into that thread, making my comment seem far more serious than it was intended. Sorry if it came out that way.
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 06:04
What's wrong with liking the things you see positive about your country? Nothing.

What's wrong with rabidly, dogmatically clinging to the position that your country is the best in the world, without having been to all, or even the majority, or even a significant minority, of the countries in the world, and having extremely little experience from which to form that conclusion, all while claiming you believe that way because of childhood indoctrination? A whole lot.

Ha.

Oh well.

That's one belief that will take a long, long time to die for me. Soz.
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 06:06
That's one belief that will take a long, long time to die for me. Soz.

Frankly..your narrow, myopic, uninformed and outdated worldview is your problem, not mine.
Deus Malum
23-08-2008, 06:07
Ha.

Oh well.

That's one belief that will take a long, long time to die for me. Soz.

A pity.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
23-08-2008, 06:07
maybe you should try it some time.
I did, I realized that I was wrong in following my parents belief that people can be in complete control of themselves, their actions or their thoughts.
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 06:08
I did, I realized that I was wrong in following my parents belief that people can be in complete control of themselves, their actions or their thoughts.

please check my edit. That post was meant to be humor, but inadvertently came out sounding more serious than I had intended.
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 06:10
Frankly..your narrow, myopic, uninformed and outdated worldview is your problem, not mine.

Oh well.

Lots of people have called me things to the effect of an anachronism, outdated, old fashioned, a walking stereotype, even! (mostly on this board, I think). Doesn't phase me, and in fact, makes my happy that I have the right ideas.

Even if my views and beliefs are doomed to fade away, they'll always be there as along as I'm alive.

So, just for Neo Art, America, FUCK YEAH!

*every time a see old glory waving high in the sky..
a tear forms in the corner of my eye*

:p
Neo Art
23-08-2008, 06:16
Oh well.

Lots of people have called me things to the effect of an anachronism, outdated, old fashioned, a walking stereotype, even! (mostly on this board, I think). Doesn't phase me, and in fact, makes my happy that I have the right ideas.

So the fact that lots of people have insulted your ideas tells you that they're right?

I'm beginning to understand how you could have those views
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 06:17
Does 'outdated', 'old-fashioned', and an 'anachronism' make one wrong? Does having differing views from the majority make one wrong? (unless its something to the affect of 1+1=3 or something).

edit:

oh, btw, did you like my little poem-thing I made? I said it for you, Neo! :D
Sudreich
23-08-2008, 06:27
This obviously was started during a rash of patriotism the likes of which can only be caused by someone like Phelps. I understand it, I feel it myself. It's like a sugar rush, he'll get over it and move on. No big deal.
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 06:36
This obviously was started during a rash of patriotism the likes of which can only be caused by someone like Phelps. I understand it, I feel it myself. It's like a sugar rush, he'll get over it and move on. No big deal.

Hold up Junior...Phelps is awesome, but I believe America IS the greatest place on Earth, and I will continue to hold this belief.
Ness Snorlaxia
23-08-2008, 06:40
I personally believe that the Mughal Empire is the greatest place on, and off of, the earth. America is a nice place, though.
Heikoku 2
23-08-2008, 06:49
I personally believe that the Mughal Empire is the greatest place on, and off of, the earth. America is a nice place, though.

>.>

<.<

*Tosses a poké-ball to try to capture Snorlax*
Ness Snorlaxia
23-08-2008, 06:56
>.>

<.<

*Tosses a poké-ball to try to capture Snorlax*

Nobody ever mentions that part of my name. You're one of the first to do so. :P
Heikoku 2
23-08-2008, 06:59
Nobody ever mentions that part of my name. You're one of the first to do so. :P

You're a resistant pokémon. :D
Ness Snorlaxia
23-08-2008, 07:04
It was always one of the more difficult to catch ones! ;)
New Wallonochia
23-08-2008, 07:31
I've often thought that America, like most countries (I'm not thinking about you Lesotho...sorry) is too big to be considered "one place". It's too damn diverse of a place, with its fair share of both crap and awesome.

Personally, I'd daresay that Ohio is not the best place in America, despite my 22+ years of being a resident.

I agree entirely.

In my 22 years of living in Michigan (I'm 26 but I've spent time overseas since I graduated high school as well as 6 months in Colorado) I know for a fact it isn't the best place on Earth, but I do still love it.
Anti-Social Darwinism
23-08-2008, 07:37
Moon Knight;13947013']If we are so great why does half the world hate our guts?

Envy!?
Integritopia
23-08-2008, 07:44
Envy!?

*high five*
Chernobyl-Pripyat
23-08-2008, 08:03
USA, Mexico and the Yugoslav states are the last places on earth where I would go to.
Dregruk
23-08-2008, 08:58
Hold up Junior...Phelps is awesome, but I believe America IS the greatest place on Earth, and I will continue to hold this belief.

I think deep-fried pizzas are possibly one of the greatest inventions of all time.

...but I don't feel some overarching need to tell an entire forum as much. Wait, damn it!
Gravlen
23-08-2008, 11:49
Despite all of the bad-mouthing on this forum, America is, by far, the greatest place on Earth.
Proof! We request - nay, DEMAND! - proof! Preferably in the form of nude pictures.

Linkplzkthxbye
Gravlen
23-08-2008, 11:50
We are the best for one reason, and one reason only. Government cheese.

Aye, and the huge portions of it! :p
Gravlen
23-08-2008, 11:50
The Marianas Trench is the best place in the world. Prove me wrong.

Unpossible! You are as right as can be.
Gravlen
23-08-2008, 11:52
Here's why we are better than everyone else.:
1. We have guns.
2. We have freedom.
3. We aren't a nanny state that makes 1984 look like a free soceity coughBritiancough.
4. We took the best of everyone else and made them our own.
1. So does Somalia.
2. So does Somalia.
3. Neither does Somalia.
4. So does ... Um, Ok, you got one out of four!

Your country: Slightly better than Somalia.

I forgot one.
5. We have The Colbert Report.
The Canadian? Aye...
Gravlen
23-08-2008, 11:53
I guess the patriotism was instilled in childhood. Hard to break out of.

You can get professional help for such problems these days :wink:
Ryadn
23-08-2008, 11:57
Oh I know it was meant as a satire, but I don't give a damn.

I was born and raised in the good ol' US of A. And I fucking love my country, despite our current problems.

I'll always love America.

So I'll say it loud, and proud.

America, FUCK YEAH!

I do believe the term "Us(i)an" bothers me far, far less than "US of A". It's the U.S., the United States of America, or the USA.

Luckily I'm from the California Republic.
greed and death
23-08-2008, 12:28
if by greatest place on earth you mean happiest. then yes we Americans have that. it is called Disney land/world.
given Japan and Europe both have one as well, but the US we have two.
Newer Burmecia
23-08-2008, 12:32
if by greatest place on earth you mean happiest. then yes we Americans have that. it is called Disney land/world.
given Japan and Europe both have one as well, but the US we have two.
I think that Hong Kong probably has the most Disneyland per capita.
Neu Leonstein
23-08-2008, 12:44
You do realise that Phelps' record haul, while impressive, is in no small part due to the fact that there are a lot of medals to be won in swimming? For 100 and 200 metres for example, running offers three medals: both individual events and a 100m team event. Swimming offers five individual medals and at least two team events (not sure I thought of them all, might be more).

Not to take away from Phelps, but I think he was probably slightly more advantaged than a similarly awesome runner (say, a certain tall Jamaican fellow) would be when it comes to potential medal counts. When people say he is the "greatest Olympian ever", I think that should be taken into account. Nobody but a swimmer could reach these numbers.

None of which has anything to do with his country of origin.
Stoklomolvi
23-08-2008, 12:46
Here's why we are better than everyone else.:
1. We have guns.
2. We have freedom.
3. We aren't a nanny state that makes 1984 look like a free soceity coughBritiancough.
4. We took the best of everyone else and made them our own.
1. Almost every country on earth has guns.
2. Almost every country on earth has freedom to a certain extent.
3. There are almost no countries on earth that oppress the people to the point where they're watched with telescreens with every moment and a world wide war started by a world government.
4. The best? HAHAHAHAHA. Funny. The best of everyone else? Racism? Poverty? Inequality? Thieves are what you are, if that's what you mean.
5. The Colbert Report is too good for America.

And, unfortunately, I am an American.
Skgorria
23-08-2008, 12:50
It's comments like those from the OP that make me think it would be better if we retook the 13 Colonies back. You chaps can keep the rest :p
Maineiacs
23-08-2008, 14:14
It's comments like those from the OP that make me think it would be better if we retook the 13 Colonies back. You chaps can keep the rest :p

Well, as Maine started out as part of Massachusetts, I suppose I should learn the words to "God Save the Queen". Or would you make us join Quebec?
Derscon
23-08-2008, 14:45
*smites*

*tickles*
Derscon
23-08-2008, 14:47
4. The best? HAHAHAHAHA. Funny. The best of everyone else? Racism? Inequality?

It's the responsibility of the civilized western nations to bring culture and democracy to the heathen primitives by forcing them to convert to christianity and establishing not a free market system, but a neomercantilist so as to expl...efficiently use the resource base as payment for advancing their culture.

Also, lol at the poverty. Just because we're better at making money than you are doesn't mean we promote poverty.
Dumb Ideologies
23-08-2008, 14:50
Meh, I'm quite happy being in Britain, and wouldn't want to move. I'd rather be pretty much anywhere in Western Europe (yep, even France) than America. Not that America is an awful place or anything, or that I'm an America-hater. The religious, uber-capitalist, anti-welfare mentality that seems quite deeply rooted in much of the political culture just jars too much with my worldview for me.
Western Mercenary Unio
23-08-2008, 14:52
i'd rather live in Scotland
Dumb Ideologies
23-08-2008, 14:55
i'd rather live in Scotland

Why would anyone say that? Its just a colder, unhealthier England :p
Chernobyl-Pripyat
23-08-2008, 14:55
Does America have chavs?
Western Mercenary Unio
23-08-2008, 14:55
Why would anyone say that? Its just a colder, unhealthier England :p

i like Scotland!
Chernobyl-Pripyat
23-08-2008, 14:59
i'd rather live in Scotland




http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e148/Numerobofis/lochness_monster_large.jpg
Dumb Ideologies
23-08-2008, 15:00
i like Scotland!

But...but...the national dish is deep-fried heroin, visitors have the wheels stolen off their cars even while moving, and its impossible to hear yourself think over the continuous foul sound of bagpipes:p
Western Mercenary Unio
23-08-2008, 15:02
But...but...the national dish is deep-fried heroin, visitors have the wheels stolen off their cars even while moving, and its impossible to hear yourself think over the continuous foul sound of bagpipes:p

why are you badmouthing Scotland?
Dumb Ideologies
23-08-2008, 15:02
why are you badmouthing Scotland?

I'm English. Its the national sport:rolleyes:
Tagmatium
23-08-2008, 15:03
why are you badmouthing Scotland?
He's joking...

...probably.
Vetalia
23-08-2008, 15:54
4. The best? HAHAHAHAHA. Funny. The best of everyone else? Racism? Poverty? Inequality? Thieves are what you are, if that's what you mean.

Because there's no racism, poverty, or inequality anywhere else in the world. I'm pretty sure the world's poor would jump at the chance to live in poverty in the United States...our poverty is food, shelter, and a car, something unavailable in many parts of the world.

And who cares about inequality? The fun thing about the United States is that the vast majority of people can raise their status if they put in the effort to do so. The problem is, a lot of them don't.
Maineiacs
23-08-2008, 16:36
The fun thing about the United States is that the vast majority of people are under the illusion that they can raise their status if they put in the effort to do so.

fixed.
Ifreann
23-08-2008, 16:37
I see none of you can show that any place on earth is superior to the Marianas Trench. I'm not surprised.