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Binge Drinkers of NSG

Free Soviets
22-08-2008, 06:28
over in the drinking age lowering thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13942793), AnarchyeL cited a source that defined 'binge drinking' as have 5 or more drinks in a row.

two questions:
1) so who here is now officially a binge drinker?
2) is there even anything wrong with 'binge drinking'?
Holy Cheese and Shoes
22-08-2008, 06:33
1) yes
2) no*


*unless you count so-called "medical evidence"
Soviestan
22-08-2008, 06:33
1. I binge drink often
2. No there's nothing wrong with it. I don't it because I have to, I do it because I like the feeling of being completely and utterly trashed.
Free Soviets
22-08-2008, 06:34
1) yes
2) no*


*unless you count so-called "medical evidence"

yeah, what do doctors know?
Sarkhaan
22-08-2008, 06:40
I'm a recent unemployed college grad... I drink lots.

There is little wrong with it, as long as it isn't a permanent lifestyle
German Nightmare
22-08-2008, 06:46
two questions:
1) so who here is now officially a binge drinker?
2) is there even anything wrong with 'binge drinking'?
1^ I

Noiioathing!
Vetalia
22-08-2008, 06:49
1. I am a binge drinker...frankly, it's pretty fun.
2. Not at all, unless you put other people in danger by doing so.
Free Soviets
22-08-2008, 06:50
now with poll!
The South Islands
22-08-2008, 06:57
Of course I am. What else is there to do on cold winter days then drink until night passed out, get dumped by your friends, wander around until some kindly soul directs you back to campus, and stumble into an ELPD cop just as you're trying desperately to find your ID that you may or may not have used as a weapon in driving off said helpful friends.

*cough*
Free Soviets
22-08-2008, 07:02
Of course I am. What else is there to do on cold winter days then drink until night passed out, get dumped by your friends, wander around until some kindly soul directs you back to campus, and stumble into an ELPD cop just as you're trying desperately to find your ID that you may or may not have used as a weapon in driving off said helpful friends.

*cough*

well, you could always try to start a non-alcohol-fueled riot, i guess
Sarkhaan
22-08-2008, 07:03
Of course I am. What else is there to do on cold winter days then drink until night passed out, get dumped by your friends, wander around until some kindly soul directs you back to campus, and stumble into an ELPD cop just as you're trying desperately to find your ID that you may or may not have used as a weapon in driving off said helpful friends.

*cough*

doing all this while not wearing pants.
The South Islands
22-08-2008, 07:03
well, you could always try to start a non-alcohol-fueled riot, i guess

pfft...what fun are those?
The South Islands
22-08-2008, 07:05
doing all this while not wearing pants.

Fourtunately, pants were present at all times.

My roommate, on the other hand...
Vetalia
22-08-2008, 07:08
The most difficult thing I have done while drunk is put a cigarette in to my TarGard. It's so tough to put the round peg in to the round hole, a metaphor possibly appropriate for really drunken sex depending on your levels of coordination.
Sarkhaan
22-08-2008, 07:12
Fourtunately, pants were present at all times.

My roommate, on the other hand...

Now, this does raise the significant question...

while binge drinking, what is the longest period of time you have gone without pants?

mine has topped 18 hours, but I also started without pants.

I don't think it is really binge drinking untill pants have been lost.
Vetalia
22-08-2008, 07:16
I don't think it is really binge drinking untill pants have been lost.

Now, if people hit you with a belt or similarly painful object if you remove your pants, how does this figure in to the equation?
The South Islands
22-08-2008, 07:17
Now, this does raise the significant question...

while binge drinking, what is the longest period of time you have gone without pants?

mine has topped 18 hours, but I also started without pants.

I don't think it is really binge drinking untill pants have been lost.

I must say, I can never recall a drinking episode where pantular objects have become detached from the body proper.

Well, I've had the pants down, but never off. I think.

Arn't blackouts awesome?
LSDville
22-08-2008, 07:20
More than 5 drinks?
How are you even supposed to get a good buzz going?
Anyway binge blazing and weekly trip sessions are way better. And no hangovers!
AnarchyeL
22-08-2008, 07:20
:p :p :p :p :p

And that's because, comments in another thread notwithstanding, I'm in binge mode at the moment.

;)
Evir Bruck Saulsbury
22-08-2008, 07:26
Seriously, I'm the only person in that poll who doesn't drink? Should I feel ashamed now that I know that I'm not part of the "cool crowd"?
Boihaemum
22-08-2008, 07:29
More than 5 is binge drinking? Wow, now I feel like I must be an alchy.
The South Islands
22-08-2008, 07:30
Seriously, I'm the only person in that poll who doesn't drink? Should I feel ashamed now that I know that I'm not part of the "cool crowd"?

Yes.

Go buy yourself a fifth of everclear.
Free Soviets
22-08-2008, 07:34
More than 5 is binge drinking? Wow, now I feel like I must be an alchy.

that was sorta my thought too; hence this thread. welcome to being part of the problem.
Sarkhaan
22-08-2008, 07:37
Now, if people hit you with a belt or similarly painful object if you remove your pants, how does this figure in to the equation?
depends...do you remember it? Does it leave a UPI (unidentified party injury)?
I must say, I can never recall a drinking episode where pantular objects have become detached from the body proper.

Well, I've had the pants down, but never off. I think.

Arn't blackouts awesome?

That they are. But who needs to black out to lose their pants?


*has had a series of very bad nights*
Cosmopoles
22-08-2008, 07:38
Yes, I do binge drink (as in have more than 5). Yes, there is something wrong with drinking that much - its bad for your health.
Free Soviets
22-08-2008, 07:45
UPI (unidentified party injury)

not quite unidentified, but i think i fractured my arm once after a bit too much wine.

to be fair to myself, it was done while doing something stupid much like many stupid things i do while sober, in which i occasionally injure myself badly anyways. but yeah, it was pretty awesome when i realized the extent of the pain later.

never actually got it looked at either. just fixed it up myself. actually, i spent the next couple weeks writing my master's thesis too.
Boihaemum
22-08-2008, 07:45
that was sorta my thought too; hence this thread. welcome to being part of the problem.

I know, right. I'm a whiskey drinker and still 5 seems a bit low, I always thought it'd be more like 10. I have to say, it's much more fun being a part of the problem.
The South Islands
22-08-2008, 07:57
That they are. But who needs to black out to lose their pants?


*has had a series of very bad nights*

Evidently so. Although I seem to recall a guy down the hall (when I was living in the dorms (the brojects, if anyone knows)) losing his pants, plus wallet, cellphone and the like. Not once. Not twice. Not thrice. Four times he lost his pants in the course of his drinking. Also lost his shoes a few times.

And another guy down the hall went to the hospital because of Alcohol poisoning. He came back on the bus with puke stained pants. Oh, to be him.
Sarkhaan
22-08-2008, 08:03
not quite unidentified, but i think i fractured my arm once after a bit too much wine.

to be fair to myself, it was done while doing something stupid much like many stupid things i do while sober, in which i occasionally injure myself badly anyways. but yeah, it was pretty awesome when i realized the extent of the pain later.

never actually got it looked at either. just fixed it up myself. actually, i spent the next couple weeks writing my master's thesis too.
Nice job on the man-up.
Evidently so. Although I seem to recall a guy down the hall (when I was living in the dorms (the brojects, if anyone knows)) losing his pants, plus wallet, cellphone and the like. Not once. Not twice. Not thrice. Four times he lost his pants in the course of his drinking. Also lost his shoes a few times.

And another guy down the hall went to the hospital because of Alcohol poisoning. He came back on the bus with puke stained pants. Oh, to be him.

Never lost cell phone, keys, wallet...only pants. And never really lost them. Just shed them. Sometimes along with boxers, sometimes not.


my friend did the best. She went out for a cigarette, lit her hair on fire, ran into the glass door, got taken away by ambulance, ripped out her IV after blowing 1.2 the next morning, and ran to my apartment screaming that the cops were after her.
Tagmatium
22-08-2008, 11:10
two questions:
1) so who here is now officially a binge drinker?
2) is there even anything wrong with 'binge drinking'?
According to the British government, binge drinking is drinking over three units. My favourite drink is a cider which 6%, which means a can of it is over three units. If I have more than one can, or a can then something else, I am officially binge drinking in the eyes of the British government, which is frankly crap.

But then I do binge drink in the full meaning of the words every so often, especially if I go out to a club or anything like that. There's nothing that wrong with it, so long as its done in moderation.
Rambhutan
22-08-2008, 11:50
Moderation is fine as long as you don't do it to excess.
Jello Biafra
22-08-2008, 12:03
5 drinks seems about right to constitute a binge.
Call to power
22-08-2008, 13:23
hmm I binge drink* everyday on my lunch hour...thats news (I work with young people though so I have to set a good example)

its not a problem as long as I don't have to look after you in any way, shape or form

*well technically only half what with being broke and horrendously watered down pub alcohol
Vault 10
22-08-2008, 14:07
over in the drinking age lowering thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13942793), AnarchyeL cited a source that defined 'binge drinking' as have 5 or more drinks in a row.
two questions:
1) so who here is now officially a binge drinker?
2) is there even anything wrong with 'binge drinking'?

Oh $t. If by "drink" you mean 1/2 oz of alcohol, then I'm afraid to say the only times I drink less than 5 is when I do it for social purposes only, when I have to drive, or when I just want to quench the thirst.

Generally, it takes 3 small (330-355ml) beers for me to survive a modern movie, 6 to get influenced, 9 to consider myself somewhat drunk, 12 to enter the second phase with sometimes slight sleepiness, at a gallon I normally stop; 24 a day is the most I ever had without sleep in between.

As a defense, though, I have to note that in the last half a year I mostly haven't drunk even a drink a day, and only got influenced once.
Dorksonia
22-08-2008, 15:15
I drink between 6 and 8 glasses of water every day without fail. I guess I'm a binge drinker!
Hachihyaku
22-08-2008, 15:23
I don't binge drink.
Ashmoria
22-08-2008, 15:23
Seriously, I'm the only person in that poll who doesn't drink? Should I feel ashamed now that I know that I'm not part of the "cool crowd"?
no wonder you only have 88 posts after 3 years.

the rest of us post whores are regular drunks.
Hachihyaku
22-08-2008, 15:26
I drink between 6 and 8 glasses of water every day without fail. I guess I'm a binge drinker!

:eek2: You bastard!
Hachihyaku
22-08-2008, 15:26
no wonder you only have 88 posts after 3 years.

the rest of us post whores are regular drunks.

No wonder I can't get a good post count :) Still doing better than him though :tongue:
Bornova
22-08-2008, 15:30
5 drinks seems about right to constitute a binge.Hmmm... I can drink about two 70 cl 40% alcoholic drink called raki steadily and over a long time and keep at "tipsy" for hours on end. I don't think this counts as 2 drinks and I don't consider this binging. If I did that in 2 hours though, I wouldn't be binging, I'd be dead :)

And for beer, my tolerance is very close to Vault 10's - I just go drunk very quickly if I forget to eat first (which happens occasionally) after about 6 beers and my limit is about 23-25 if I drink steadily over a tour bus 24 hours :) (read, lots of things to keep you awake and want to be tipsy and fun).

Cheerio!
Snafturi
22-08-2008, 16:00
I'm drunk off one glass of wine. Five drinks would probably kill me.
Free Soviets
22-08-2008, 16:02
According to the British government, binge drinking is drinking over three units. My favourite drink is a cider which 6%, which means a can of it is over three units. If I have more than one can, or a can then something else, I am officially binge drinking in the eyes of the British government

wait, really? so basically, anyone who has even two ~5% beers is binging in britain? well fuck, so it's realy more of just a measure of how many people ever drink alcohol at all then, isn't it?
Chumblywumbly
22-08-2008, 16:07
wait, really? so basically, anyone who has even two ~5% beers is binging in britain? well fuck, so it's realy more of just a measure of how many people ever drink alcohol at all then, isn't it?
Yup, I don't know anyone who drinks who isn't, according to the UK government, a binge drinker.

EDIT: But then, I'm also a 'hoodie'.
Peisandros
22-08-2008, 16:07
Hmm.... Alcohol...
But seriously, it's good stuff and I'm definitely a binge drinker. Nearly 19yrs old and living in the student capital of NZ. Drink for one main purpose-to get drunk. Occasionally I'll just have a few beers, but usually it'll be 12 beers.

I'm just gutted I can't drink for another two weeks :(
Cosmopoles
22-08-2008, 16:11
wait, really? so basically, anyone who has even two ~5% beers is binging in britain? well fuck, so it's realy more of just a measure of how many people ever drink alcohol at all then, isn't it?

Yup, I don't know anyone who drinks who isn't, according to the UK government, a binge drinker.

As far as I'm aware, the level at which drinking becomes a binge is the level at which it starts to affect your health. I don't really have a problem with their definition, I'm perfectly aware the negative impact that alcohol has on people's health, including my own.
Peisandros
22-08-2008, 16:18
I'm drunk off one glass of wine. Five drinks would probably kill me.

Wonderfully cheap drunk. I wish I was less able to hold my alcohol. Tipsy occurs usually after 6 or so drinks.
Call to power
22-08-2008, 16:21
But then, I'm also a 'hoodie'.

sorry last one *hides pack of cigarettes*
Snafturi
22-08-2008, 16:21
Wonderfully cheap drunk. I wish I was less able to hold my alcohol. Tipsy occurs usually after 6 or so drinks.

I love being a cheap drunk. When I was younger, I was very self concious of my tolerance. Now, I thank my lucky stars every time I see my tab at the bar.

Tipsy after 6 drinks? Yikes! I hope you don't live in a country where alcohol is insanely expensive (like it's ever cheap).
Smunkeeville
22-08-2008, 16:25
Now, this does raise the significant question...

while binge drinking, what is the longest period of time you have gone without pants?

mine has topped 18 hours, but I also started without pants.

I don't think it is really binge drinking untill pants have been lost.

Are we talking American pants or British pants? Because it entirely changes the answer.

Also, I don't currently binge drink......and I think the second question is too simplified, it's a problem if you have a problem. If you are an alcoholic or you drink yourself into alcohol poisoning it's a problem.
Tagmatium
22-08-2008, 16:31
wait, really? so basically, anyone who has even two ~5% beers is binging in britain? well fuck, so it's realy more of just a measure of how many people ever drink alcohol at all then, isn't it?
Yeah, dead on there. It's a bit bloody tedious, to be honest. After all, how often do you go down to a pub for just a single pint in an evening? They even had an advertising campaign a couple of months ago, warning us on the perils of having ten units in a week, with the slogan "It all adds up".

Well, fuck 'em. Ten units in a night is a good fucking start, not ten units in a week.

Although of late I've personally cut down on the amount of booze I drink (reducing it to nill in the last two weeks), primarily because I'm somewhat strapped for cash. I'm also aiming to reduce my alcohol tolerance, so it'll be cheaper when I can afford to get pissed of an evening again. Basically when my student loan comes in and I have the time to go job hunting, but that's an aside.
Cheese penguins
22-08-2008, 16:34
I'm a student, its impossible not to be one. ;)

And erm yes there are problems, but well not right now, eventually my Liver will explode of course and I will turn yellow and it will hurt... But until then no problems.
Dumb Ideologies
22-08-2008, 16:40
I'm a student and *NOT* a binge drinker. No, really.

I get a bit drunk and have a hangover the next day if I have more than three of a fairly weak alcopop (I don't like beer etc) so I don't really ever come close to being one of these "bingers". I frequently go whole months without drinking.
Newer Burmecia
22-08-2008, 16:45
I suppose so. I'm not really a lager/spirits/alcopops fan, I tend to stick to Guiness or Tetley's, unless there's some real stuff on tap, but I am required to appear out with the rest of the Student Race every so often, which usually manifests itself with litttle me lightweight (five drinks would have me in A&E) feeling a wee bit poorly the following morning.
Jello Biafra
22-08-2008, 18:10
Hmmm... I can drink about two 70 cl 40% alcoholic drink called raki steadily and over a long time and keep at "tipsy" for hours on end. I don't think this counts as 2 drinks and I don't consider this binging. If I did that in 2 hours though, I wouldn't be binging, I'd be dead :)Heh. I suppose I was thinking of the alcohol content of a can of beer - about 5 of those would constitute a binge.
Certainly a higher-alcohol drink would need fewer for the drinker to be bingeing.

I suppose so. I'm not really a lager/spirits/alcopops fan, I tend to stick to Guiness or Tetley's, unless there's some real stuff on tap, but I am required to appear out with the rest of the Student Race every so often, which usually manifests itself with litttle me lightweight (five drinks would have me in A&E) feeling a wee bit poorly the following morning.Do pubs over there not serve nonalcoholic beverages?
Free Soviets
22-08-2008, 18:30
I'm a student and *NOT* a binge drinker.

ur doin it rong
Dumb Ideologies
22-08-2008, 18:34
ur doin it rong

My assessments so far suggest I'm doin it rite:p
Vault 10
22-08-2008, 18:56
I get a bit drunk and have a hangover the next day if I have more than three of a fairly weak alcopop (I don't like beer etc) so I don't really ever come close to being one of these "bingers".
Let's see... Alcopops, 6-7%, 12 oz - 1.5 drinks each... 4*1.5=6 drinks. Qualifies!
Dumb Ideologies
22-08-2008, 18:57
Let's see... Alcopops, 6-7%, 12 oz - 1.5 drinks each... 4*1.5=6 drinks. Qualifies!

Ah, but its only about once a year I have more than one in an evening:p

Even then, the 2 or 3 I have are sensibly spaced apart, at least an hour between each with me also having non-alcoholic drinks and some food to minimise the impact.
Call to power
22-08-2008, 19:05
Do pubs over there not serve nonalcoholic beverages?

I think you can get American beers yes :tongue:

you can get fruit drinks like j2o but they are more expensive than the alcohol

My assessments so far suggest I'm doin it rite:p

well what do you think you will you tell your employer in 5 years time when he asks what you did in school?!
Sarkhaan
22-08-2008, 19:06
I'm a student and *NOT* a binge drinker. No, really.

I get a bit drunk and have a hangover the next day if I have more than three of a fairly weak alcopop (I don't like beer etc) so I don't really ever come close to being one of these "bingers". I frequently go whole months without drinking.

Well, there's your problem...you're drinking concentrated hangover in a bottle.
Rejistania
22-08-2008, 20:32
over in the drinking age lowering thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13942793), AnarchyeL cited a source that defined 'binge drinking' as have 5 or more drinks in a row.

two questions:
1) so who here is now officially a binge drinker?
2) is there even anything wrong with 'binge drinking'?

1) not me!
2) nothing more than with alcohol in general.
Free Soviets
22-08-2008, 22:45
My assessments so far suggest I'm doin it rite:p

and my assessment suggests otherwise
Ifreann
22-08-2008, 22:51
I very rarely do not binge drink.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
22-08-2008, 23:16
I drink that much almost every day. Just plain heavy drinking, though occasionally I really hang one one.

Like, OMG, last night. *hangs head*
Londim
22-08-2008, 23:18
I'm a student. I'm sure that answers your question.
Vetalia
23-08-2008, 00:26
depends...do you remember it? Does it leave a UPI (unidentified party injury)?

Yes, it usually does.
Trollgaard
23-08-2008, 00:31
I guess you could say I'm an occasional binge drinker...(5 or more drinks)
Andaluciae
23-08-2008, 00:33
It definitely takes way more than five drinks to get me drunk, especially if I am consuming those drinks at my preferred time of day: Dinner.
Interlosia
23-08-2008, 00:58
Im a Student and I rarely ever get drunk, never really see any point of it. I have only once had a really bad night that ended up in me being sick in a toilet. Still, this was because this girl seemingly wanted to get me drunk for some reason...hmm...by buying loads of triple vodka and cokes. I got away from her somehow although she wasn't best pleased.

I hate the whole binge drinking culture in the UK, everyone looks like a right bunch of idiots. I have to say though, it can be good fun for a sober person to watch drunk people and have a right good laugh!

And why do binge drinkers want ME to drink, and get annoyed if I don't. Really hope I can leave England at some point. I don't even support the national team any more because of how horrible England is becoming. Still, I am very cynical of lots of things. Well im done with my small rant.
Bornova
23-08-2008, 07:41
Hmmm... This reminds me of a little anecdote. One of my friends meets a hawt girl at a local bar. They get seriously drunk together and she whispers in his ear "I'm going to the bathroom, follow me if you like" and he, clueless uncharacteristically, says "nah, I don't need to pee just now."

Obviously she gets upset and leaves - and he remembers the whole thing in the morning with some expected regret.

:)

Cheerio!
Adunabar
23-08-2008, 12:12
over in the drinking age lowering thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13942793), AnarchyeL cited a source that defined 'binge drinking' as have 5 or more drinks in a row.

two questions:
1) so who here is now officially a binge drinker?
2) is there even anything wrong with 'binge drinking'?

According to some doctors I saw on a program about binging, it's better for your health to drink every night and get completely hammered, than to binge at the weekends, which is really damaging.
Newer Burmecia
23-08-2008, 12:20
According to some doctors I saw on a program about binging, it's better for your health to drink every night, but night get completely hammered, than to binge at the weekends, which is really damaging.
Thus, I binge drink on weekdays.
Hydesland
23-08-2008, 12:35
I drink a lot (too much), but I will concede that binge drinking makes our cities a horrible, violent and ugly place at night. There's no benefit to binge drinking.
Jello Biafra
23-08-2008, 14:59
I think you can get American beers yes :tongue:

you can get fruit drinks like j2o but they are more expensive than the alcohol How about the mixers? Most places can make rum and coke, it's possible to have just the coke (presumably).

I hate the whole binge drinking culture in the UK, everyone looks like a right bunch of idiots. I have to say though, it can be good fun for a sober person to watch drunk people and have a right good laugh!It can be, but generally drunk people are more obnoxious than entertaining.
Western Mercenary Unio
23-08-2008, 15:06
don't drink.i'm thirteen
Call to power
23-08-2008, 15:23
How about the mixers? Most places can make rum and coke, it's possible to have just the coke (presumably).

in theory however without the alcohol you can get a pretty good idea of how much your being screwed thus making the idea of ordering such a concoction folly

don't drink.i'm thirteen

but your being conscripted?!

*mutters about NS making me feel old*
Western Mercenary Unio
23-08-2008, 15:24
in theory however without the alcohol you can get a pretty good idea of how much your being screwed thus making the idea of ordering such a concoction folly



but your being conscripted?!

*mutters about NS making me feel old*

no,not untili'm eightteen
The Infinite Dunes
23-08-2008, 16:39
I guess I fit this definition. But 5 drinks is such a varied number...

5 doubles and I'm tipsy. 5 pints and I'm reeling. But then I can usually remember the times I drink perfectly - so it doesn't feel like binge drinking. And I don't get hangovers...
Vault 10
23-08-2008, 16:52
"Drink" is a legal term, denoting 1/2 oz or 14g, or 18ml of alcohol. 5 drinks is 70g or 90ml.
Vault 10
23-08-2008, 17:26
Well, there's your problem...you're drinking concentrated hangover in a bottle.
Indeed.
Alcopops are stronger than beer, and their carbon dioxide accelerates alcohol absorption. Thus, it leads to higher BAC.


As a sidenote, it's stupid, IMHO, to define "binge drinking" merely by the number of drinks. What's binge drinking for a 100-pound low-tolerance Asian female, is nothing for a 200-pound high-tolerance white male.

3 alcopops for you might mean more than 9 beers for me.
Say, for 120 lbs, female, 3 typical alcopops would produce 0.20% BAC, or 0.17% considering delays. They could be replaced by 6 beers.
A 180-200 lbs, male, beer drinker would have to drink at least 12 beers to get the same effect, considering delays.

http://www.alcohol.vt.edu/Students/alcoholEffects/estimatingBAC/index.htm
Increase for alcopops (CO2), reduce for beers (lots of water in there, plus you always have snack with beer).
The Infinite Dunes
23-08-2008, 20:52
"Drink" is a legal term, denoting 1/2 oz or 14g, or 18ml of alcohol. 5 drinks is 70g or 90ml.18 ml? I seem to remember a UK unit being classified as 10ml of ethanol. But I was really talking about the different types of drinks and their varying alcohol content. Spirits are anything from 25% to 95%.

But speaking of precise measurements I find that time and money can be frequently measured by drinking capacity. Like 'How long have you been here for' or 'how much money do you have left'.
Yootopia
24-08-2008, 03:50
Almost every time I go out. Do trebles count as three drinks or one, by the way?
Boonytopia
24-08-2008, 07:02
1) Yes, by that definition I am.
2) Yes, too much alcohol is bad for your health.
Callisdrun
24-08-2008, 08:27
What is "binge drinking?" I keep hearing this term thrown around by the media as if it's some dastardly subculture that threatens to consume the college youth of America, but they never really say what it is. I don't drink enough to vomit, I try to avoid that, as vomiting is not fun for me.

I drink beer mainly for the taste and to get a little drunk. Hard alcohol I generally stay away from except in mixed drinks.
Blouman Empire
24-08-2008, 11:20
What is "binge drinking?" I keep hearing this term thrown around by the media as if it's some dastardly subculture that threatens to consume the college youth of America, but they never really say what it is. I don't drink enough to vomit, I try to avoid that, as vomiting is not fun for me.

I drink beer mainly for the taste and to get a little drunk. Hard alcohol I generally stay away from except in mixed drinks.

Yeah you still binge drink, the media do ues it it is one of the little crusades they are on at the moment. A few years ago it was obesity in Australia we saw a crusade against 'P' platers, now its binge drinking who knows what is going to be next.
Sarkhaan
24-08-2008, 11:29
Indeed.
Alcopops are stronger than beer, and their carbon dioxide accelerates alcohol absorption. Thus, it leads to higher BAC.


As a sidenote, it's stupid, IMHO, to define "binge drinking" merely by the number of drinks. What's binge drinking for a 100-pound low-tolerance Asian female, is nothing for a 200-pound high-tolerance white male.

3 alcopops for you might mean more than 9 beers for me.
Say, for 120 lbs, female, 3 typical alcopops would produce 0.20% BAC, or 0.17% considering delays. They could be replaced by 6 beers.
A 180-200 lbs, male, beer drinker would have to drink at least 12 beers to get the same effect, considering delays.

http://www.alcohol.vt.edu/Students/alcoholEffects/estimatingBAC/index.htm
Increase for alcopops (CO2), reduce for beers (lots of water in there, plus you always have snack with beer).
this exactly. Tonight, I polished off a 12 pack of bud light...now, if it were bud heavy, it would have been more alcohol for the same ammount consumed. Make it wine, and we're even higher (I can have a bottle of wine as fast as I can have two or three beers, but with much more alcohol in my system as a result)...I'm 6'2", 185, and have a high tolerance and high metabolism. 5 isn't even a buzz for me.
Saxnot
24-08-2008, 13:48
I used to drink and I had to stop, because I really drank. 'Kay? 'Kay.
And I was... really fuckin' pathetic... 'kay? Kay.

So yeah. Now I'll still have a drink or two, but I can go weeks without touching a drop. And all thanks to yes-i-cannabis. :D
Blouman Empire
24-08-2008, 13:56
Im a Student and I rarely ever get drunk, never really see any point of it. I have only once had a really bad night that ended up in me being sick in a toilet. Still, this was because this girl seemingly wanted to get me drunk for some reason...hmm...by buying loads of triple vodka and cokes. I got away from her somehow although she wasn't best pleased.

Dude, wtf? you better be gay.

I don't even support the national team any more because of how horrible England is becoming. Still, I am very cynical of lots of things. Well im done with my small rant.

Nothing much to support when they can't even qualify to EURO.

don't drink.i'm thirteen

Good lad, alternatively I will corrupt you *hands a stubbie of beer to WMU*
Soheran
24-08-2008, 14:05
Dude, wtf? you better be gay.

:rolleyes:
Blouman Empire
24-08-2008, 14:48
Ah, but its only about once a year I have more than one in an evening:p

Even then, the 2 or 3 I have are sensibly spaced apart, at least an hour between each with me also having non-alcoholic drinks and some food to minimise the impact.

Yes but that is still a binge, even if you do it once a year, and even if it is over a few hours as it is 5 standard drinks a day.

I know that it may not be like other students you see but it is still binge drinking.
Blouman Empire
24-08-2008, 14:51
:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

Please Soheran don't try and make it as if I was being serious I know there may have been any number of reasons why he wanted to get away from her.
Interlosia
25-08-2008, 02:51
Originally Posted by Interlosia View Post
Im a Student and I rarely ever get drunk, never really see any point of it. I have only once had a really bad night that ended up in me being sick in a toilet. Still, this was because this girl seemingly wanted to get me drunk for some reason...hmm...by buying loads of triple vodka and cokes. I got away from her somehow although she wasn't best pleased.

Dude, wtf? you better be gay.


No sir, I am well and truly straight. But I just hate it when Girls quite literally throw themselves at you, some guys may think that im a bit odd for saying that. The main thing is, my instant impression of that person plummets so much once she has done this, which means I really do not care about her. For me, I have to actually get to know the girl, which is why I am somebody who will never ever have a one night stand. Anyway, I think were a little off topic.

Oh and Blouman Empire. I was cheering for Croatia when they beat England. Lets hope they can do it again in the World cup quals.
Dakini
25-08-2008, 02:56
I can see where drinking several drinks in an evening every evening could be bad for a person's health... but knocking a few back on the weekend or every couple of weekends probably doesn't hurt any more than eating too much chocolate hurts.
Trostia
25-08-2008, 02:59
Dakini, the exception is that alcohol is literally a toxic chemical that produces its effects by killing off irreplaceable brain cells; it hampers good judgment and reasoning, and inspires fatal car accidents, domestic abuse and date rape. I'm pretty sure you can't say the same thing about chocolate.
Callisdrun
25-08-2008, 03:00
Yeah you still binge drink, the media do ues it it is one of the little crusades they are on at the moment. A few years ago it was obesity in Australia we saw a crusade against 'P' platers, now its binge drinking who knows what is going to be next.

So all drinking is binge drinking? Were you drunk at the time of this post? Because it has that level of coherence...
Neesika
25-08-2008, 04:05
I don't like getting drunk, to be honest. I mean, I love the process of getting drunk, and I love it while I'm drunk, but I hate how I feel after...not just the hangover, but also the 'ugh I do the weirdest things when I'm pissed'...
Anti-Social Darwinism
25-08-2008, 05:31
Under that definition, I've done it twice in my life. I didn't really enjoy it, neither did the people around me. It's not something I'll do a third time.
Blouman Empire
25-08-2008, 08:24
So all drinking is binge drinking? Were you drunk at the time of this post? Because it has that level of coherence...

Is that what I said? No, I was making reference to the amount DI drinks even if it is only once a year and after the calculation given to someone else showed that she was drinking 5 standard drinks during that one time, which means it is a binge. Remember one drink isn't always just one drink.

As for the rest of it, starting to go on a rant about the media and their moral crusades, yes I may have just came on after having a few glasses of wine, which would be about maybe 4 standard drinks but don't quote me on that.
Blouman Empire
25-08-2008, 08:24
No sir, I am well and truly straight. But I just hate it when Girls quite literally throw themselves at you, some guys may think that im a bit odd for saying that. The main thing is, my instant impression of that person plummets so much once she has done this, which means I really do not care about her. For me, I have to actually get to know the girl, which is why I am somebody who will never ever have a one night stand. Anyway, I think were a little off topic.

Oh and Blouman Empire. I was cheering for Croatia when they beat England. Lets hope they can do it again in the World cup quals.

Sucks to be you.

No I hear what you are saying mate in regards to wanting to know them first but yes we are off topic.
Tagmatium
25-08-2008, 09:14
Dakini, the exception is that alcohol is literally a toxic chemical that produces its effects by killing off irreplaceable brain cells; it hampers good judgment and reasoning, and inspires fatal car accidents, domestic abuse and date rape. I'm pretty sure you can't say the same thing about chocolate.
I thought the whole killing-off-brain-cells thingy was a myth?
Dysenterium
25-08-2008, 09:40
I thought the whole killing-off-brain-cells thingy was a myth?

Not quite. Neurological damage is caused by thiamine deficiency (vitamin B-1). However, chronic drinking causes malabsorption of thiamine and most binge drinkers don't have the healthiest diets. Ergo, a large percentage of chronic drinkers suffer neurological damage brought on by thiamine deficiency.

The solution of course is either to take B supplements or to eat foods rich in thiamine before going out drinking. Incidentally, brewer's yeast is exceedingly rich in B-complex (yet another reason to drink Real Ales!)
Trostia
25-08-2008, 09:43
I thought the whole killing-off-brain-cells thingy was a myth?

Well, even if it is, the date rape and drunk driving accidents bits alone are enough to place alcohol consumption in a far different category than eating lots of chocolate.
Tagmatium
25-08-2008, 10:05
Not quite. Neurological damage is caused by thiamine deficiency (vitamin B-1). However, chronic drinking causes malabsorption of thiamine and most binge drinkers don't have the healthiest diets. Ergo, a large percentage of chronic drinkers suffer neurological damage brought on by thiamine deficiency.

The solution of course is either to take B supplements or to eat foods rich in thiamine before going out drinking. Incidentally, brewer's yeast is exceedingly rich in B-complex (yet another reason to drink Real Ales!)
You're the Man from CAMRA? :p

Fair enough, though. Can't remember where I heard the counter-argument about alcohol killing brains.

I hope it wasn't from QI...