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These forums suck, they are just a liberal-bourgeois capitalist circlejerk. I am going back to Revleft, where the real opinions are.

Bye then

Can I have your stereo and your Communist Party when you leave?

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l192/whereyouthinkyougoing/funny-pictures-bored-cat.jpg

These forums suck, they are just a liberal-bourgeois capitalist circlejerk. I am going back to Revleft, where the real opinions are.

Sad news. The waaahmbulance was called but, despite the brave efforts of medics, it was too late. He had already died through liver failure, caused by the unprecedented levels of whine in his system. A sad day:(

You'll be back.

These forums suck, they are just a liberal-bourgeois capitalist circlejerk. I am going back to Revleft, where the real opinions are.

Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya.

Plus the Moderators consistently persecute anyone with opinions not in the bourgeois-liberal 'mainstream'. Not surprising considering they work for Jolt, a capitalist entity.

These forums suck, they are just a liberal-bourgeois capitalist circlejerk. I am going back to Revleft, where the real opinions are.
I took a look at that forum, it's made of the st00pid.

Plus the Moderators consistently persecute anyone with opinions not in the bourgeois-liberal 'mainstream'. Not surprising considering they work for Jolt, a capitalist entity.Got one example?:tongue:

Plus the Moderators consistently persecute anyone with opinions not in the bourgeois-liberal 'mainstream'. Not surprising considering they work for Jolt, a capitalist entity.

Andaras? Is that you? *squints*

Plus the Moderators consistently persecute anyone with opinions not in the bourgeois-liberal 'mainstream'. Not surprising considering they work for Jolt, a capitalist entity.
Mr Indoctrinated speaketh not the truth.

Mr Indoctrinated speaketh not the truth.

No, I am the only unbrainwashed person on this forum, all the rest of you are infected with bourgeois ideology, whether you realize it or not.

Plus the Moderators consistently persecute anyone with opinions not in the bourgeois-liberal 'mainstream'. Not surprising considering they work for Jolt, a capitalist entity.

Even saddest song played on tiniest little violin not sufficient here.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
Jolt doesn't have a door, they had to cut back on costs so they sold it and laid off more workers.

No, I am the only unbrainwashed person on this forum, all the rest of you are infected with bourgeois ideology, whether you realize it or not.

So... can I have your stuff, or not? I asked first so I think its only fair.

Andaras? Is that you? *squints*

I really hope so, otherwise there'd be two of them. :eek2:

No, I am the only unbrainwashed person on this forum, all the rest of you are infected with bourgeois ideology, whether you realize it or not.This reminds me of a friend who once claimed he wasn't drunk, all other people were.

No, I am the only unbrainwashed person on this forum, all the rest of you are infected with bourgeois ideology, whether you realize it or not.
Well, probably. I don't doubt that to some degree everyone here has been influenced by other factors than purely making up their own mind, but it's drones like you which really take the cake, imagining that spouting Marxist drivel constantly means that they're the ones with the free thought.

meh. Bye, then. Don't come back to reply to this thread. Just leave.

No, I am the only unbrainwashed person on this forum, all the rest of you are infected with bourgeois ideology, whether you realize it or not.

Please, liberate me from my false consciousness so I can enjoy laughable economic performance, endless violent purges and a complete absence of civil liberties.

yeah....dickwad.

No, I am the only unbrainwashed person on this forum, all the rest of you are infected with bourgeois ideology, whether you realize it or not.

Umm I thought you had left?

Please, liberate me from my false consciousness so I can enjoy laughable economic performance, endless violent purges and a complete absence of civil liberties.

'Freedom' and 'liberty' is subjective in a class society, their can only be 'proletarian freedom' or 'bourgeois freedom' because both classes have irreconcilable interests. And you object to violence? The bourgeois have been using it against workers for decades, it's time we started fighting back, class warfare. And also whenever the planned economy has been compared to the unplanned decaying edifice of capitalism, the planned socialist economy prevails.

No, I am the only unbrainwashed person on this forum, all the rest of you are infected with bourgeois ideology, whether you realize it or not.

"I'm significant!"

Screamed the dust speck.

What time is your flight back to Revleft?

Umm I thought you had left?
To be fair, we are encouraging him by replying to his tantrum-thread.

"I'm significant!"

Screamed the dust speck.

You ask me what the English workers think about colonial policy. Well, exactly the same as they think about politics in general: the same as what the bourgeois think. There is no workers' party here, there are only Conservatives and Liberal-Radicals, and the workers gaily share the feast of England's monopoly of the world market and the colonies. - Friedrich Engels

I think that's an apt description of the pampered liberal kiddie makeup of NSG.

"I'm significant!"

Screamed the dust speck.

Yay! :D

Great book The Long Goodbye - I really enjoyed it. One of Raymond Chandler's finest.

These forums suck, they are just a liberal-bourgeois capitalist circlejerk. I am going back to Revleft, where the real opinions are.

Off you skip them, bwave little marxist! You go and tell them how those ebil bourgeois bullies say nasty things about Uncle Joe! :fluffle:

So cute.

To be fair, we are encouraging him by replying to his tantrum-thread.

Which demonstrates the amount of truth he invested in the words "I'm leaving", doesn't it?

Which demonstrates the amount of truth he invested in the words "I'm leaving", doesn't it?
This is true.

I say we should keep him, he amuses me.

This is the longest rendition of 'My Way' I've ever heard.

Which demonstrates the amount of truth he invested in the words "I'm leaving", doesn't it?

Why does NSG even exist? Why not just make it a link some capitalist website? Same same.

No, I am the only unbrainwashed person on this forum, all the rest of you are infected with bourgeois ideology, whether you realize it or not.

As I recall, Communism failed.

'Freedom' and 'liberty' is subjective in a class society, their can only be 'proletarian freedom' or 'bourgeois freedom' because both classes have irreconcilable interests. And you object to violence? The bourgeois have been using it against workers for decades, it's time we started fighting back, class warfare. And also whenever the planned economy has been compared to the unplanned decaying edifice of capitalism, the planned socialist economy prevails.

Right...East German economy vs. West German economy? Didn't really prevail, did it? After huge amounts of investment, the ex-East German economy still lags horrifically behind the West. After reunification it was found that five or more people were often employed to do a job that one person could do. Environmentally, East Germany was also one of the most polluted regions in the world. Despite all the investment in communist times from the Russians and the money given to the East German government by the West Germans to improve relations during the 1980s, the economy sucked, and if you bothered to do any research you'd know it.

Also, Revleft is where the real opinions are? I didn't know communists allowed opinion. Surely all members who waver even slightly from Marxist orthodoxy would have to be brutally purged? Must really suck as a forum, soon as you disagree a forum agent breaks into your house and murders you with an icepick.

Why does NSG even exist? Why not just make it a link some capitalist website? Same same.

Not going then? Ohhh and what do you work as I wonder?

Why does NSG even exist? Why not just make it a link some capitalist website? Same same.
Well, it essentially is, as it's got craploads of adverts on it.

[I]
I think that's an apt description of the pampered liberal kiddie makeup of NSG.

"It costs an average of $200,000 to raise a child to adulthood. The question is whether that money is a gift... or a loan?"

Of course no decent cheese was ever created under communism

As I recall, Communism failed.

Ah, but don't you realise... Failure is Success!

Just like War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery and Ignorance is Strength.

My...how strong Ralishuland is.

Why does NSG even exist? Why not just make it a link some capitalist website? Same same.

NSG wasn't founded as a Communist promotional website.

It is a forum for "talking about anything" that is attached to an online roleplaying game (which itself is not an exercise in Communist promotion).

Maybe you have some problem understanding this.

Of course no decent cheese was ever created under communism

Or decent toilet paper

These forums suck, they are just a liberal-bourgeois capitalist circlejerk. I am going back to Revleft, where the real opinions are.

With a farewell post like that, how do you expect anyone to miss you?

"It costs an average of $200,000 to raise a child to adulthood. The question is whether that money is a gift... or a loan?"

A gift of course, or perhaps a responiblity!

NSG wasn't founded as a Communist promotional website.

It is a forum for "talking about anything" that is attached to an online roleplaying game (which itself is not an exercise in Communist promotion).

Maybe you have some problem understanding this.

The dictatorship of the vanguard of the proletariat does not believe in games. The elimination of the bourgeois desire for "fun" is crucial if workers are to be able to work twenty-five hours a day for the leader :hail:

Which demonstrates the amount of truth he invested in the words "I'm leaving", doesn't it?I'd just like to say that I called it on the first page.

I'd just like to say that I called it on the first page.

Well then, you win the thread.

Planned socialist economies have never 'failed', it's economically impossible for them to fail when compared with the old decaying system of capital. What 'failed' in the USSR in 1991 was not socialism, it was state-capitalism, the Khrushchevite revisionists made the USSR capitalist around 1960, under Stalin when the planned economy existed it destroyed capitalist production figures all the time. For example in January 1939 the USSR had an industrial output of +291.9%, compared to the USA at +10.2%, Britain at —14.8%, and Germany at —24.6%. It was under Brezhnev, when the principles of Marxism-Leninism had been abandoned, that the state-capitalist economy stagnated and nosedived.

Only capitalist economies can fail, because by definition they are a decaying system.

Andaras?

Planned socialist economies have never 'failed', it's economically impossible for them to fail when compared with the old decaying system of capital. What 'failed' in the USSR in 1991 was not socialism, it was state-capitalism, the Khrushchevite revisionists made the USSR capitalist around 1960, under Stalin when the planned economy existed it destroyed capitalist production figures all the time. For example in January 1939 the USSR had an industrial output of +291.9%, compared to the USA at +10.2%, Britain at —14.8%, and Germany at —24.6%. It was under Brezhnev, when the principles of Marxism-Leninism had been abandoned, that the state-capitalist economy stagnated and nosedived.

Only capitalist economies can fail, because by definition they are a decaying system.

The only thing failing here is your attempt at leaving.

Why does NSG even exist? Why not just make it a link some capitalist website? Same same.

"Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
Pretending that I'm going away
My pose is such; I pretend too much
I've returned and they all can tell.

Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
A myth in a world of my own
I browse the net; but to my real shame
I've got me to rant all alone.

Too real is this feeling of make believe
Too real when I feel what the facts can't conceal.

Oh yes I'm the great pretender
Just ranting and gray with a frown
I seem to be what I'm not; you see
I'm wearing my ass like a crown
Pretending that I'm not still around.

Too real is this feeling of make believe
Too real when I feel what the acts can't conceal

Oh yes I'm the great pretender
Just ranting and gray with a frown
I seem to be what I'm not; you see
I'm wearing my ass like a crown
Pretending that I'm not still around."

Sing with me.

N00bs making goodbye threads. Twice the entertainment and wank facor.:D

As I recall, Communism failed.
But, but... there's books and stuff. It sounds so lovely in the books.

Or decent toilet paper
That's true for most of Europe too. Damn Communist influences!

*shakes fist*

The only thing failing here is your attempt at leaving.

I am just disproving the malicious venom thrown at Communism by the counter-revolutionaries, reactionary and all around social retardants on NSG.

I am just disproving the malicious venom thrown at Communism by the counter-revolutionaries, reactionary and all around social retardants on NSG.

With your rubbish, simplified pseudo-economic analysis? Please.

I am just disproving the malicious venom thrown at Communism by the counter-revolutionaries, reactionary and all around social retardants on NSG.

Sorry, we don't believe you.

I am just disproving the malicious venom thrown at Communism by the counter-revolutionaries, reactionary and all around social retardants on NSG.

Are you still here?

"Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
Pretending that I'm going away
My pose is such; I pretend too much
I've returned and they all can tell.

Oh yes, I'm the great pretender
A myth in a world of my own
I browse the net; but to my real shame
I've got me to rant all alone.

Too real is this feeling of make believe
Too real when I feel what the facts can't conceal.

Oh yes I'm the great pretender
Just ranting and gray with a frown
I seem to be what I'm not; you see
I'm wearing my ass like a crown
Pretending that I'm not still around.

Too real is this feeling of make believe
Too real when I feel what the acts can't conceal

Oh yes I'm the great pretender
Just ranting and gray with a frown
I seem to be what I'm not; you see
I'm wearing my ass like a crown
Pretending that I'm not still around."

Sing with me.

*waves a privately-owned lighter*

Can I have your stuff? (oh, sorry, this isn't EVE Online...)

Planned socialist economies have never 'failed', it's economically impossible for them to fail when compared with the old decaying system of capital. What 'failed' in the USSR in 1991 was not socialism, it was state-capitalism, the Khrushchevite revisionists made the USSR capitalist around 1960, under Stalin when the planned economy existed it destroyed capitalist production figures all the time. For example in January 1939 the USSR had an industrial output of +291.9%, compared to the USA at +10.2%, Britain at —14.8%, and Germany at —24.6%. It was under Brezhnev, when the principles of Marxism-Leninism had been abandoned, that the state-capitalist economy stagnated and nosedived.

Only capitalist economies can fail, because by definition they are a decaying system.Dodge, dodge, dodge!
Dodge the reasoned arguments!

Can I have your stuff? (oh, sorry, this isn't EVE Online...)

Hey, take a number and get in line.

With your rubbish, simplified pseudo-economic analysis? Please.

No, with my facts. Have a read: http://www.oneparty.co.uk/html/book/ussrmenu.html

Planned socialist economies have never 'failed', it's economically impossible for them to fail when compared with the old decaying system of capital. What 'failed' in the USSR in 1991 was not socialism, it was state-capitalism, the Khrushchevite revisionists made the USSR capitalist around 1960, under Stalin when the planned economy existed it destroyed capitalist production figures all the time. For example in January 1939 the USSR had an industrial output of +291.9%, compared to the USA at +10.2%, Britain at —14.8%, and Germany at —24.6%. It was under Brezhnev, when the principles of Marxism-Leninism had been abandoned, that the state-capitalist economy stagnated and nosedived.

Only capitalist economies can fail, because by definition they are a decaying system.

Yes, because the production statistics released by the USSR were subjected to any scrutiny at all and can be relied on not to be total fabrications by the government:rolleyes:. Secondly, Russia was a backward country compared to the others you have mentioned, and to achieve growth in a country with untapped resources and relatively undeveloped industry is much easier than in a nation that has already reached a substantially later stage in its development. Fail. Strange, it also looks like the communist economies all decayed and returned to capitalism, while capitalism continues to spread across the world. Odd definition of "decay"

Dodge, dodge, dodge!
Dodge the reasoned arguments!
Only one dodging here is you.

Andaras?

Thought he seemed a bit like tovarisch Andy, but he doesn't overuse bourgeois near as much, or say proletariat at all.

I am just disproving the malicious venom thrown at Communism by the counter-revolutionaries, reactionary and all around social retardants on NSG.

Sooo tell me again, what do you work as?

No, with my facts. Have a read: http://www.oneparty.co.uk/html/book/ussrmenu.html
Cuz a site dedicated to destroying capitalism will have a fair and balanced view on the matter...

Yes, because the production statistics released by the USSR were subjected to any scrutiny at all and can be relied on not to be total fabrications by the government:rolleyes:. Secondly, Russia was a backward country compared to the others you have mentioned, and to achieve growth in a country with untapped resources and relatively undeveloped industry is much easier than in a nation that has already reached a substantially later stage in its development. Fail.
You fail to understand that when planned economy existed in the USSR it beat the capitalist world consistently and in every area.

No, with my facts. Have a read: http://www.oneparty.co.uk/html/book/ussrmenu.html

Fabrications of the Soviet government.

Oh, and how many millions did Stalin have to kill and enslave and imprison to get any results at all?

Saying Communism is great for those reasons is like saying Fascism is great because Hitler built the autobahn and the trains ran on time.

These forums suck, they are just a liberal-bourgeois capitalist circlejerk. I am going back to Revleft, where the real opinions are.

Plus the Moderators consistently persecute anyone with opinions not in the bourgeois-liberal 'mainstream'. Not surprising considering they work for Jolt, a capitalist entity.
With all due respect (and that's not a great deal, to be frank) I have to disagree with your 'conclusion'.

This forum is far from being some kind of hivemind-based 'circlejerk'. A cursory sweep through the posting histories of just the posters who have responded in this thread reveals people with wildly differing philosophies on life and on politics, located in a reasonable spread of nations. I see no common factor, other than that they all reject your blind adherence to an ideology that's been discredited and/or unsuccessful in every single application so far.

Is this forum the be-all and end-all? Is it some kind of paragon of forum perfection, where we are all able to debate things eloquently and respectfully? Hell no, of course it isn't. There are plenty of people who troll, plenty who spam (witness the 'blah-blah party' spamfest of recent weeks) and plenty of people whose minds are so set in the ways of their own particular worldview that they will never change. But that doesn't make their opinions any less 'real'. I question the point of participating in a forum where everyone agrees... it would be frightfully boring.

Finally, I can't say that I've ever noticed the Moderators persecuting people unless those people have consistently flouted the stated rules of the forums. If you honestly feel that you yourself have been persecuted then I submit that your perception is flawed, and that you may indeed be better off in an environment where people are prepared to mindlessly accept your constant repetition without challenge. Adios.

Only one dodging here is you.Nice! Ralishuland evades scrutiny with a clever tu quoque fallacy!
The audience is thrilled!

Sooo tell me again, what do you work as?

He's on the dole. For purely symbolic reasons, of course.

Sooo tell me again, what do you work as?
Class warrior against the bourgeois dictatorship.

You fail to understand that when planned economy existed in the USSR it beat the capitalist world consistently and in every area.You fail to provide a reliable source for your figures.

Class warrior against the bourgeois dictatorship.

He's either unemployed, or a musician.

Class warrior against the bourgeois dictatorship.

How's the dental plan?

Class warrior against the bourgeois dictatorship.
You can get paid for that?

Class warrior against the bourgeois dictatorship.

That's a classic line. I'm gonna miss this.

Right...East German economy vs. West German economy? Didn't really prevail, did it? After huge amounts of investment, the ex-East German economy still lags horrifically behind the West. After reunification it was found that five or more people were often employed to do a job that one person could do. Environmentally, East Germany was also one of the most polluted regions in the world. Despite all the investment in communist times from the Russians and the money given to the East German government by the West Germans to improve relations during the 1980s, the economy sucked, and if you bothered to do any research you'd know it.

Also, Revleft is where the real opinions are? I didn't know communists allowed opinion. Surely all members who waver even slightly from Marxist orthodoxy would have to be brutally purged? Must really suck as a forum, soon as you disagree a forum agent breaks into your house and murders you with an icepick.

Not quite. I went and had a look and if they don't like what your saying they restrict you to a section for capatalists. And most of the people there seem to be communists who had an argument about what is the best form of communism - appartly if your not a socialist they put you in there internet Gulag.

bourgeois tripe
Who cares what variations in 'ideas' they have, I don't care the slightest if some liberal kiddie thinks a little differently than the next liberal kiddie, their 'ideas' are still nothing but the extension of bourgeois property.

He's either unemployed, or a musician.Or a student whose tuition fees and Xbox are paid for by his parents.

Plus the Moderators consistently persecute anyone with opinions not in the bourgeois-liberal 'mainstream'. Not surprising considering they work for Jolt, a capitalist entity.

the mods aren't paid by Jolt/OMAC

That's a classic line. I'm gonna miss this.

No you're not, that would imply that he actually leaves at some point.

You can get paid for that?

Yeah, it's called 'expropriation'.

You fail to understand that when planned economy existed in the USSR it beat the capitalist world consistently and in every area.

You fail to understand that the totalitarian Soviet government was able to fabricate all its figures, while free societies had to, because of scrutiny and accountability, provide details of what was actually happening. Its like me making up figures saying that the economy of San Marino grew 875 septillion percent last year, and that is thus now the biggest economy in the world. Just because I say it, doesn't mean it bears any relation to fact.

Yeah, it's called 'expropriation'.

So you're self employed? Bourgeois traitor.

You fail to understand that the Soviet government was able to fabricate all its figures, while free societies had to, because of scrutiny and accountability, provide details of what was actually happening. Its like me making up figures saying that the economy of San Marino grew 875 septillion percent last year, and that is thus now the biggest economy in the world. Just because I say it, doesn't mean it bears any relation to fact.
Unplanned economies are impossible to calculate reliable production figures, this is because production isn't planned and is subject to the same anarchy that belies all private production. Planned economies details are the only reliable ones. Capitalists will always lies and distort figures to try and disguise the collapsing system that is capitalism.

Unplanned economies are impossible to calculate reliable production figures, this is because production isn't planned and is subject to the same anarchy that belies all private production. Planned economies details are the only reliable ones.They don't calculate like communist economies but review the things produced in the past year/month/time.

Who cares what variations in 'ideas' they have, I don't care the slightest if some liberal kiddie thinks a little differently than the next liberal kiddie, their 'ideas' are still nothing but the extension of bourgeois property.
Who cares? Well, apparently, everyone but you.

Your characterisation of other posters as 'kiddies' is simply ad-hominem writ large, and reflects the main weakness of your 'debate' style. It's based around a complete lack of empathy - a total failure to accept that other people do not necessarily think exactly the same as you and the utter failure to recognise that yours is not the 'one true way'. It's the same mindset that renders debate against fundamentalist followers of any other ideology wholly pointless.

For the sake of curiosity, I note that you quoted my previous post as being 'bourgeois tripe'. I'd be grateful if you'd elucidate... I see nothing in it that could be reasonably interpreted as such.

Who cares what variations in 'ideas' they have, I don't care the slightest if some liberal kiddie thinks a little differently than the next liberal kiddie, their 'ideas' are still nothing but the extension of bourgeois property.
Unlike your good self, at least they haven't had their head opened up and replaced with the Communist Manifesto and started to spout it by rote as soon as anyone voices a differing opinion to their own. Seriously, read some other stuff. Marx's views aren't the be-all-and-end-all, a lot of it is rubbish and doesn't apply at all to the modern world, no matter how much sorts like your self wish that it does. It's a broken theory and a child of its time, no more, no less.

Although I suppose I'm essentially wasting my time by typing this, as I doubt you'll listen to anything sensible anyone says, as you're too indoctrinated to be anything but an armchair communist, preaching the coming revolution from behind a computer monitor.

bunch of crap


Just go, you are no longer amusing

Unplanned economies are impossible to calculate reliable production figures, this is because production isn't planned and is subject to the same anarchy that belies all private production. Planned economies details are the only reliable ones.

Ah right, information is only "reliable" if the government makes up the figures itself with no scrutiny from elsewhere to check that its not bullshitting to make itself appear better.

:rolleyes: Typical communist logic. It really is like something out of 1984.

Yeah, it's called 'expropriation'.I see. A thief then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCvz8y_DUSY

Unplanned economies are impossible to calculate reliable production figures, this is because production isn't planned and is subject to the same anarchy that belies all private production. Planned economies details are the only reliable ones. Capitalists will always lies and distort figures to try and disguise the collapsing system that is capitalism.That demand is largely impossible to calculate has apparently escaped your attention.

I see. A thief then.

He's lumpenproletariat!

He's lumpenproletariat!
:D

Good shout!

That demand is largely impossible to calculate has apparently escaped your attention.
Demand is a myth.

You fail to understand that when planned economy existed in the USSR it beat the capitalist world consistently and in every area.

Industrial growth =/= industrial strength.

Hey look! Last week I produced one product, and this week I produced ten! I just increased my industrial strength by 900%! Take that, United States, I'm so much better than you. :rolleyes:

Demand is a myth.

Much like you leaving then, huh?

Demand is a myth.

Tell that to anybody who wants or is selling the Nintendo Wii.

Demand is a myth.Oh snap! My argument is disarmed... unless...

Prove it.

Demand is a myth.

please provide evidence while i just look at wii sale figures

edit dang some one got there before me

Class warrior against the bourgeois dictatorship.

Umm dodge, dodge, dodge.

I guess if you are a class warrior, then you must be working class, so you must work, so again, what do you work as?

Demand is a myth.

The existence of the world prior to last Thurday is a myth.

Demand is a myth.So nobody ever really wants anything? Awesome, I'll just go sit on the ground since I don't need to eat anymore.:fluffle:

Tell that to anybody who wants or is selling the Nintendo Wii.
Well, the fact that a person wants a Wii is a kind of a case in point. The Wii isn't "needed" per se, as it's not something that a person needs in order to survive or anything, but that person still wants it due to a need to keep up with peers or something similar.

Well, the fact that a person wants a Wii is a kind of a case in point. The Wii isn't "needed" per se, as it's not something that a person needs in order to survive or anything, but that person still wants it due to a need to keep up with peers or something similar.

Communism: able to transcend goddamn human nature. :rolleyes:

, but that person still wants it due to a need to keep up with peers or something similar.

it fun, nothing deeper then that!

Umm dodge, dodge, dodge.

I guess if you are a class warrior, then you must be working class, so you must work, so again, what do you work as?He makes a living stealing from people he thinks deserve it.

Ralishuland, what the fuck is WRONG WITH YOU!? Communism is DEAD! Nobody cares! Hey, maybe if it was 1960, people would listen to you and put up with this shit, but it's not fucking 1960, it's fucking 2008, and communism is fucking dead because every fucker of a state which adopted it has fucking collapsed! Now can you see WHY YOU LOOK SO FUCKING RIDICULOUS!?

Well, the fact that a person wants a Wii is a kind of a case in point. The Wii isn't "needed" per se, as it's not something that a person needs in order to survive or anything, but that person still wants it due to a need to keep up with peers or something similar.

Or ohh my, to play games on!:D

Communism: able to transcend goddamn human nature. :rolleyes:
Well, yeah.

But Communism will herd us all into a wonderland of equality, whether we like it or not.

Meh, I imagine I'll be one of the first against the wall "when" the revolution comes for not being their brand of socialist, so it doesn't really to me.

The existence of the world prior to last Thurday is a myth.

The world and the concept of "Thursday" are both myths too. Our reality is just the dream of a giant singing capitalist frog living on the planet Squablabog.*

*Though...this is much more plausible than Marxist orthodoxy:p

Actually Marxism is the only economic theory which is consistently mathematical and systematic, I mean you can just read Kapital and then Adam Smith and you see how clueless he is. Borugeois economists have no basis in reality, their 'ideas' are abstract dogmas which have no attachment to the world. Rather than using formulas to understand economics, bourgeois economists make liberal stereotypes of 'human nature'. Just look at von Mises, he has no formulaic economist basis, it's all emotional moralistic 'freeeeeeeeeeeedom' nonsense.

Oh snap! My argument is disarmed... unless...

Prove it.

Yeah, people don't need to eat, therefore there is no demand.

If they starve, it's their own fault for not eating according to the five year plan.

He makes a living stealing from people he thinks deserve it.

Ahhhh works in the revenue dept*nods*

Actually Marxism is the only economic theory which is consistently mathematical and systematic, I mean you can just read Kapital and then Adam Smith and you see how clueless he is. Borugeois economists have no basis in reality, their 'ideas' are abstract dogmas which have no attachment to the world. Rather than using formulas to understand economics, bourgeois economists make liberal stereotypes of 'human nature'. Just look at von Mises, he has no formulaic economist basis, it's all emotional moralistic 'freeeeeeeeeeeedom' nonsense.

...

Your system sucks.

Meh, I imagine I'll be one of the first against the wall "when" the revolution comes for not being their brand of socialist, so it doesn't really to me.Hey, hey, hey! Wait your goddamn turn!

Yeah, people don't need to eat, therefore there is no demand.

If they starve, it's their own fault for not eating according to the five year plan.

According to our government records, you don't need food to live.

Actually Marxism is the only economic theory which is consistently mathematical and systematic, I mean you can just read Kapital and then Adam Smith and you see how clueless he is. Borugeois economists have no basis in reality, their 'ideas' are abstract dogmas which have no attachment to the world. Rather than using formulas to understand economics, bourgeois economists make liberal stereotypes of 'human nature'. Just look at von Mises, he has no formulaic economist basis, it's all emotional moralistic 'freeeeeeeeeeeedom' nonsense.

Except the formulas are WRONG, as the whole world cannot be adequately explained by maths and psuedo-scientific dogma; hence the failure of every Communist country:rolleyes:

Actually Marxism is the only economic theory which is consistently mathematical and systematic, I mean you can just read Kapital and then Adam Smith and you see how clueless he is. Borugeois economists have no basis in reality, their 'ideas' are abstract dogmas which have no attachment to the world. Rather than using formulas to understand economics, bourgeois economists make liberal stereotypes of 'human nature'. Just look at von Mises, he has no formulaic economist basis, it's all emotional moralistic 'freeeeeeeeeeeedom' nonsense.
Wooo, so a belief in a dialectical historical process isn't so much horse feathers?

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Your system sucks.

I'll interpret that as 'You are correct'.

Thanks.

Actually Marxism is the only economic theory which is consistently mathematical and systematic, I mean you can just read Kapital and then Adam Smith and you see how clueless he is. Borugeois economists have no basis in reality, their 'ideas' are abstract dogmas which have no attachment to the world. Rather than using formulas to understand economics, bourgeois economists make liberal stereotypes of 'human nature'. Just look at von Mises, he has no formulaic economist basis, it's all emotional moralistic 'freeeeeeeeeeeedom' nonsense.One of the fun quotes from my Ecology class:
"Let's forget about reality and do math."

You can't calculate how populations react with colloquial certainty.

I'll interpret that as 'Your are correct'.

Thanks.
And I'll interpret that as "I'm in fact wrong!"

What a fun game!

Actually Marxism is the only economic theory which is consistently mathematical and systematic, I mean you can just read Kapital and then Adam Smith and you see how clueless he is. Borugeois economists have no basis in reality, their 'ideas' are abstract dogmas which have no attachment to the world. Rather than using formulas to understand economics, bourgeois economists make liberal stereotypes of 'human nature'. Just look at von Mises, he has no formulaic economist basis, it's all emotional moralistic 'freeeeeeeeeeeedom' nonsense.

Is there a mathematical and systematic way to explain that over an hour after leaving you are still here? My non mathematical explanation is that you are an attention whore but I'd like to hear your explanation from within a systematic framework.

I'll interpret that as 'You are correct'.

Thanks.

History disagrees. Every communist state has either failed or is a dump.

YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!

Now go move to Laos or shut the hell up.

Is there a mathematical and systematic way to explain that over an hour after leaving you are still here? My non mathematical explanation is that you are an attention whore but I'd like to hear your explanation from within a systematic framework.

Wannabe Communist attention whore

Except the formulas are WRONG, as the whole world cannot be adequately explained by maths and psuedo-scientific dogma; hence the failure of every Communist country:rolleyes:

'Communism' isn't a dogma, it's a living breathing social science. If you can prove Marxist formulas are wrong, then please do so.

For example, tell me what this represents and how it's economic formula is incorrect:

M- (MP+LP)- C - M1

Wannabe Communist attention whore
Attention slut. Whores get paid.

Actually Marxism is the only economic theory which is consistently mathematical and systematic, I mean you can just read Kapital and then Adam Smith and you see how clueless he is. Borugeois economists have no basis in reality, their 'ideas' are abstract dogmas which have no attachment to the world. Rather than using formulas to understand economics, bourgeois economists make liberal stereotypes of 'human nature'. Just look at von Mises, he has no formulaic economist basis, it's all emotional moralistic 'freeeeeeeeeeeedom' nonsense.

There is no such thing as bourgeois in academia, no university researcher is involved in the exploitation of workers. Pretty much all credited economists and econometricians think what you are saying is bullshit, you have no leg to stand on. The vast majority of even Marxists economists thinks that Stalin made terrible decisions with the soviet union.

History disagrees. Every communist state has either failed or is a dump.

YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!

Now go move to Laos or shut the hell up.

'Socialism' (in everywhere by Albania) ceased to exist around 1960.

Attention slut. Whores get paid.

So he's fucking the bourgeois, sticking it to the man?

These forums suck, they are just a liberal-bourgeois capitalist circlejerk. I am going back to Revleft, where the real opinions are.

Plus the Moderators consistently persecute anyone with opinions not in the bourgeois-liberal 'mainstream'. Not surprising considering they work for Jolt, a capitalist entity.

No, I am the only unbrainwashed person on this forum, all the rest of you are infected with bourgeois ideology, whether you realize it or not.

Jolt doesn't have a door, they had to cut back on costs so they sold it and laid off more workers.

I think that's an apt description of the pampered liberal kiddie makeup of NSG.

Why does NSG even exist? Why not just make it a link some capitalist website? Same same.

I am just disproving the malicious venom thrown at Communism by the counter-revolutionaries, reactionary and all around social retardants on NSG.

Class warrior against the bourgeois dictatorship.

Who cares what variations in 'ideas' they have, I don't care the slightest if some liberal kiddie thinks a little differently than the next liberal kiddie, their 'ideas' are still nothing but the extension of bourgeois property.

You'll be back.

No, he won't.

yeah....dickwad.
Watch it... flaming.

Ralishuland, what the fuck is WRONG WITH YOU!? Communism is DEAD! Nobody cares! Hey, maybe if it was 1960, people would listen to you and put up with this shit, but it's not fucking 1960, it's fucking 2008, and communism is fucking dead because every fucker of a state which adopted it has fucking collapsed! Now can you see WHY YOU LOOK SO FUCKING RIDICULOUS!?
Knock it off.

Is there a mathematical and systematic way to explain that over an hour after leaving you are still here? My non mathematical explanation is that you are an attention whore but I'd like to hear your explanation from within a systematic framework.
Watch the flaming...

Wannabe Communist attention whore
Watch the flaming.

Tagmatium, Neo Bretonnia, your sigs are longer than eight lines. Please reduce them. You can put the quotations on the same line in size one type with hyphens between each one to distinguish who said what.