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My Plan To Crush MTV, See It Driven Before Me, And Hear The Lamentation Of It's Women

Heinleinites
20-08-2008, 16:15
Do you remember when MTV used to be worth a damn?

Believe it or not, MTV actually used to be worth watching. They used to play actual music videos, and interview/associate with actual musicians, not just teeny-boppers who had seen a guitar once. Growing up, my family couldn't afford cable. We had one 13 inch black and white television, the kind with a UHF dial on the face (apropos of that, does anybody else remember UHF stations. They were almost the television equivalent of pirate radio, but alas, have gone the way of drive-ins, another great institution sadly fallen by the way. But I digress.) I used to go over to Danny William’s house and watch it and pester his older sister. It (and Danny’s older sister) was an integral part of my childhood and teenage years.

But sadly, the MTV that I knew and loved appears to have gone the way of Ozymandias. The Powers That Be, in the most stunning display of managerial savvy since the launch of the Edsel, at some point( I blame the first ‘Real Word’ myself) apparently decided to program exclusively for the coveted '13 year old mongoloid' demographic. It's all been pretty much downhill from there.

On that note, if there is one thing I hate, its when people whine and bitch about things they don't like and yet give you a blank look when you ask them how they're going to fix it. (I’m looking at you, DNC) So, in the grand tradition of such men as Henry Ford, J.P. Morgan, or Andrew Carnegie, seeing a hole in the market I have decided to produce my own, superior product, and make the competition cry like a French soccer player. This new music video channel will be called 'The Bad-Ass Music Channel', or BAMC, and it will play bad-ass music. The BAMC will not discriminate based on the particular genre; it is a uniter, not a divider. If it is a bad-ass song, or if you are a bad-ass musician, you are welcome at the BAMC.

This is the kind of thing you will see on the BAMC:

Classical music - Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Stravinsky, and Mussorgsky. 'A Night on Bald Mountain.’ ‘The 9th Symphony.’ ‘The 1812 Overture’ Handel’s ‘Messiah.’ People think that classical music is boring. The BAMC will beat them severely about the head and shoulders with how wrong they are. Since these pieces were composed in the days before the music video (or television. Or radio, for that matter) came into vogue, while they play there will be a montage of pictures of various beautiful women wearing bikinis, or lingerie, or less. Beautiful women in the viewing audience will be encouraged to send in pictures of themselves in bikinis, or lingerie, or less. If a woman's picture is used, she gets $100$ from our ‘Beautiful Audience Members Fund’.

Rock and/or Roll - Motley Crue, Poison, Guns N Roses, Def Leppard, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, KISS, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, Metallica, Rob Zombie, etc. These bands qualified for a couple of reasons. Firstly, these bands will always kick your ass. Always. That's just the way it is. Who am I to tinker with the underlying forces of the universe? Secondly, these bands are better by several orders of magnitude than what passes for rock and roll these days. If it weren't for these bands, a lot of the 'musicians' you see out there now would still be working the fryer at Denny's.

Country Music - Not all country music though. Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Hank Williams, David Alan Coe, Alan Jackson, Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, Toby Keith, Trace Adkins as well as others to be named later, will be more than welcome anytime they want to show up. On the other hand, the only way the Dixie Chicks are coming anywhere near my building is if they get jobs making coffee and answering phones.

Anything else I happen to run across and like- This would include talented musician girlfriends of people I like, my little brother's wife, my best friend’s Doors cover band, stuff like that. As with any other decision, my word would be law.

There is music and there are musicians that would, however, not be able to get onto the BAMC if they showed up brandishing loaded shotguns. Actually, now that I think about it, that particular tactic might work, because that is kind of bad-ass, but never mind, the point is: that you will not see the following musicians and/or genres on the BAMC unless the lions need feeding.

Anyone who is not old enough to vote - It's my contention that the two great themes in music are love and heartbreak. There's not a 16 year old alive that knows enough about either one to be singing about it.

Rappers– Due to straitened economic circumstances, there have been points in my life where I have had to live in various cities’ ghettoes. This has left me with a deep and abiding loathing of hip-hop and its concomitant 'gangsta' culture. So, much like a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, I'm going to go out of my way to see that I don't encounter it. Also like a poke in the eye, I’m going to try not to inflict it on anyone else. Plus, if the BAMC starts showing rap videos, the last tiny shreds of justification for BET's existence will vanish and everyone who works there will have to go out and get real jobs.

Whiny little bastards who think that the fact that they can play the guitar gives them a greater insight into humanity or makes them more 'enlightened' than the rest of us - The last thing I, and my viewers, want to see is some skinny little SOB who makes money hand over fist telling me (us) I (we) need to give more to charity. My charity PSA would consist of televising several large men strapping down aforementioned bastich and tattooing 'Charity Begins At Home' on his face.

Techno, and anything associated with it – Techno and its inbred cousins always seem to involve Europeans wearing weird clothing, doing odd dances, and generally behaving in an off-putting manner. Plus, I find it annoying and it usually involves strobe lights, which give me a headache. Yes, I realize it’s an arbitrary decision. So? That’s one of the beauties of having your own TV network.

Now, after a long day of vigorously pleasing the viewing public, at midnight, the BAMC will switch over to showing Clint Eastwood and John Wayne movies, interspersed with Three Stooges shorts. Why switch from just plain music, you ask? First of all, Because I Can. Secondly, because the Stooges have some of the most memorable opening music in cinema and it's harder to think of two bigger bad-asses than John Wayne and Clint Eastwood. That's why. They fit right in. After we run out of those, we'll move on to film noir, detective movies, the Marx Brothers, and really, anything else I like or think will draw in viewers.

So watch your cable providers, and when you hearing the weeping, and the wailing, and the gnashing of teeth, you'll know that all the other music channels have been cast into the fiery pits of torment they so richly deserve and that the Bad Ass Music Channel reigns supreme.
Londim
20-08-2008, 16:18
Wait what?
Adunabar
20-08-2008, 16:19
Kay great, NEXT.
Cosmopoles
20-08-2008, 16:20
There's already a music channel that allows you to watch the videos and hear the music you want. Find out more here (http://************/9zza6).

Also, a rock/country/classical station has no target audience.
Laerod
20-08-2008, 16:20
The BAMC will not discriminate based on the particular genre; it is a uniter, not a divider.
There is music and there are musicians that would, however, not be able to get onto the BAMC...You lie.
Cosmopoles
20-08-2008, 16:23
Furthermore, saying that you don't want rap because you don't like gangsta rap is like saying you don't want metal because you don't like death metal.
Laerod
20-08-2008, 16:25
Also, a rock/country/classical station has no target audience.It does, but the audience would be too small for the channel to be economically viable.

The problem with MTV is that it's no longer Music Television but Reality Show Television. They should play more music and less shows, increasing the chance that a song I like might play amongst all the stuff I hate.
Cosmopoles
20-08-2008, 16:28
It does, but the audience would be too small for the channel to be economically viable.

The problem with MTV is that it's no longer Music Television but Reality Show Television. They should play more music and less shows, increasing the chance that a song I like might play amongst all the stuff I hate.

What I mean is that there is no distinct group that such a selection of music applies to. At least most of the popular music channels either focus on a particular genre or an age range and can, for instance, advertise to that group. How do you advertise to a rock/country/classical listener?
Rambhutan
20-08-2008, 16:28
Furthermore, saying that you don't want rap because you don't like gangsta rap is like saying you don't want metal because you don't like death metal.

Though given the mention of Motley Crue, Poison and Def Leppard - poodle rock does seem to be the OP's taste. I would rather listen to Dr Dre than any of the kind of crap. Though frankly rap isn't what it used to be - needs to get back to being about putting a cap in someone's ass rather than all this falsetto singing about dancing.
Free Soviets
20-08-2008, 16:29
But sadly, the MTV that I knew and loved appears to have gone the way of Ozymandias. The Powers That Be, in the most stunning display of managerial savvy since the launch of the Edsel, at some point( I blame the first ‘Real Word’ myself) apparently decided to program exclusively for the coveted '13 year old mongoloid' demographic. It's all been pretty much downhill from there.

all downhill since 1992? really?
Sdaeriji
20-08-2008, 16:30
Now, after a long day of vigorously pleasing the viewing public, at midnight, the BAMC will switch over to showing Clint Eastwood and John Wayne movies, interspersed with Three Stooges shorts. Why switch from just plain music, you ask? First of all, Because I Can. Secondly, because the Stooges have some of the most memorable opening music in cinema and it's harder to think of two bigger bad-asses than John Wayne and Clint Eastwood. That's why. They fit right in. After we run out of those, we'll move on to film noir, detective movies, the Marx Brothers, and really, anything else I like or think will draw in viewers.

Gee, that sounds shockingly similar to certain programming decisions made by a certain music television channel.
Laerod
20-08-2008, 16:33
What I mean is that there is no distinct group that such a selection of music applies to. At least most of the popular music channels either focus on a particular genre or an age range and can, for instance, advertise to that group. I'm sure you can find a group of people that actually would constitute the target audience. The number would just be incredibly low.
How do you advertise to a rock/country/classical listener?I can actually think of some posters that involve blending of rock, classical, and country stereotypes.
Cosmopoles
20-08-2008, 16:33
Though given the mention of Motley Crue, Poison and Def Leppard - poodle rock does seem to be the OP's taste. I would rather listen to Dr Dre than any of the kind of crap. Though frankly rap isn't what it used to be - needs to get back to being about puuting a cap in someone's ass rather than all this falsetto singing about dancing.

Meh, I like Dr Dre and Def Leppard. What has nine arms and rocks?

Agreed on the rap part. Although it was good even before the likes of Dre, Tupac, Biggie etc. Run-DMC and De La Soul weren't gangsta but they were awesome.
Ifreann
20-08-2008, 16:35
It's only TV, if you don't like it stop watching.
Eofaerwic
20-08-2008, 16:37
Classical music - Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Stravinsky, and Mussorgsky. 'A Night on Bald Mountain.’ ‘The 9th Symphony.’ ‘The 1812 Overture’ Handel’s ‘Messiah.’ People think that classical music is boring. The BAMC will beat them severely about the head and shoulders with how wrong they are. Since these pieces were composed in the days before the music video (or television. Or radio, for that matter) came into vogue, while they play there will be a montage of pictures of various beautiful women wearing bikinis, or lingerie, or less. Beautiful women in the viewing audience will be encouraged to send in pictures of themselves in bikinis, or lingerie, or less. If a woman's picture is used, she gets $100$ from our ‘Beautiful Audience Members Fund’.


Now far be it from me to complain about seeing beautiful women, but I am generally of the opinion that classical music is best watched by watching the actual muscians performing it. Actually classical music is best not watched at all, but listened to, and allow your imagination to generate the suitable imagery (since this will often vary from person to person).
Dumb Ideologies
20-08-2008, 16:37
Can you tell us the day it starts broadcasting? I fear that channel would fail so epically that it might already be off-air if I try and tune in on the second day:p Such a random combination of stuff that the target audience is simply one person; you.
Wilgrove
20-08-2008, 16:37
What about Death Metal? Will BAMC play Death Metal?

Ya'll should play Dethklok!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UosmKd1krWU
Western Mercenary Unio
20-08-2008, 16:45
what about Sibelius?Finlandia is awesome!

but if you like hiphop listen to Slick Rick.ignore the beginning:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRC4ziQpb5I
the Free Communities
20-08-2008, 16:53
To be honest, I'd listen to that channel. Provided it also plays the Who and...
















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PROG ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What could possibly be cooler?
Rambhutan
20-08-2008, 16:55
What about Death Metal? Will BAMC play Death Metal?

Ya'll should play Dethklok!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UosmKd1krWU

Is that meant to be as hilarious as I find it or not?
Dumb Ideologies
20-08-2008, 16:57
If your channel has no melodic avant-garde symphonic technical death metal, then I'm out.
Trostia
20-08-2008, 17:06
You mention 3 Russian composers out of the 4 you listed.

That means BAMC will kick ass.
the Free Communities
20-08-2008, 17:19
You mention 3 Russian composers out of the 4 you listed.

That means BAMC will kick ass.

Provided there is the Who and Prog Rock.

btw I agree with you there. Russian Composers, imo especially Tchaikovsky, are fantastic.
Delator
20-08-2008, 17:33
If your channel has no melodic avant-garde symphonic technical death metal, then I'm out.

Same here!

*packs bags*
Xenophobialand
20-08-2008, 17:33
It might help to throw in more modern composers. Morricone, for instance, is awesome even if you don't like westerns.
Dumb Ideologies
20-08-2008, 17:41
Same here!

*packs bags*

Though if there's any progressive post-industrial folk unblack speed-metal around, I might be tempted back
Zilam
20-08-2008, 17:44
www.pandora.com

Use that instead.
Delator
20-08-2008, 17:52
Though if there's any progressive post-industrial folk unblack speed-metal around, I might be tempted back

Hell...start your own radio station. :)
Heinleinites
20-08-2008, 17:55
You lie.

Actually, I don’t. I didn’t say I wouldn’t discriminate. That would be both foolish and impossible. I said that the basis of my discrimination wouldn’t be based on a particular genre. My discrimination is based on my impeccable taste.

Furthermore, saying that you don't want rap because you don't like gangsta rap is like saying you don't want metal because you don't like death metal.

What I said was that I didn’t like hip-hop and its concomitant ‘gangsta’ culture. It doesn’t matter what kind of rap music it is, it won’t be seen on the BAMC.

What about Death Metal? Will BAMC play Death Metal? Y’all should play Dethklok!

If you are a bad-ass, we have programming space for you. Dethklok entertains and amuses me, so, yes. We will play them.

It might help to throw in more modern composers. Morricone, for instance, is awesome even if you don't like westerns.

I do have a couple of Morricone’s CD’s and I like them. The composers I named are just the first ones that came to mind, mostly because they are ones I listen to the most.
Laerod
20-08-2008, 17:59
Actually, I don’t. I didn’t say I wouldn’t discriminate. That would be both foolish and impossible. I said that the basis of my discrimination wouldn’t be based on a particular genre. My discrimination is based on my impeccable taste.One possible interpretation that is not supported by the use of the "uniter" phrase at the end.
Pure Metal
20-08-2008, 18:26
meh, doesn't sound that bad ass to me. if everyone's going to have their own personal MTV channel, i want one.

oh wait, i do, its called teh interwebs
Heinleinites
20-08-2008, 19:09
One possible interpretation that is not supported by the use of the "uniter" phrase at the end.

Congratulations, in a article written primarily to entertain and amuse, you've somehow managed to detect: a joke. Now see if you can find the hidden message.

meh, doesn't sound that bad ass to me. if everyone's going to have their own personal MTV channel, i want one. oh wait, i do, its called teh interwebs

The BAMC has no need of your series of Internet tubes. We will become a monolith and dominate the industry through sheer bad-assedness.
Skalvian Insurgents
20-08-2008, 19:14
Furthermore, saying that you don't want rap because you don't like gangsta rap is like saying you don't want metal because you don't like death metal.

I dont want Hair Metal, lol...or Death Metal For that matter....

But, who watches MTV for Music these days anyway? You can only get it at like 2 or 3 in the morning, maybe not even then...

I wish we got Fuse, lol...
Dumb Ideologies
20-08-2008, 19:26
Are people who do not suffer from haemorrhoids or other rectal-anal conditions permitted to view your channel? For it would appear that you intend only those with a "bad ass" to watch it. Or perhaps those unlucky enough to have been tricked into paying excessive amounts on ebay for a poor-quality donkey.
Conserative Morality
20-08-2008, 19:37
You forgot Queen! *Puts nose in air, ignores channel until they put on some QUEEN! WOO!*
Evir Bruck Saulsbury
20-08-2008, 20:19
See, I don't understand what is with all the derision of MTV for not playing music anymore. I mean, figuring the quality of most currently "in" bands, it is probably a far better thing for us and MTV to play as little music as possible.
Conserative Morality
20-08-2008, 20:26
See, I don't understand what is with all the derision of MTV for not playing music anymore. I mean, figuring the quality of most currently "in" bands, it is probably a far better thing for us and MTV to play as little music as possible.

Seconded!

Well, they could play the classics over and over again...
Ashmoria
20-08-2008, 20:30
Heinleinites have you ever asked yourself WHY mtv no longer plays just music videos?

or even why radio stations specialize in one type of music?

stupidity isnt the answer.
Johnny B Goode
20-08-2008, 20:30
Now far be it from me to complain about seeing beautiful women, but I am generally of the opinion that classical music is best watched by watching the actual muscians performing it. Actually classical music is best not watched at all, but listened to, and allow your imagination to generate the suitable imagery (since this will often vary from person to person).

Speaking of classical music, the OP forgot to mention "Mars, the Bringer of War" (Gustav Holst)
Conserative Morality
20-08-2008, 20:31
Heinleinites have you ever asked yourself WHY mtv no longer plays just music videos?

or even why radio stations specialize in one type of music?

stupidity isnt the answer.
They're aiming for a certain demographic. That Demographic annoys me. (I know the question wasn't directed at me, but I figured I might as well throw in my two cents)
Heinleinites
20-08-2008, 20:35
Are people who do not suffer from haemorrhoids or other rectal-anal conditions permitted to view your channel? For it would appear that you intend only those with a "bad ass" to watch it. Or perhaps those unlucky enough to have been tricked into paying excessive amounts on ebay for a poor-quality donkey.

This is my favorite response so far. To answer the question, no you need neither to be suffering from neither hemorrhoids nor financial irresponsibilty to watch the BAMC

And yes, I'll play some Queen. Especially 'Princes of the Universe.'
Ashmoria
20-08-2008, 20:35
They're aiming for a certain demographic. That Demographic annoys me. (I know the question wasn't directed at me, but I figured I might as well throw in my two cents)
they are aiming to make money.
Conserative Morality
20-08-2008, 20:41
This is my favorite response so far. To answer the question, no you need neither to be suffering from neither hemorrhoids nor financial irresponsibilty to watch the BAMC

And yes, I'll play some Queen. Especially 'Princes of the Universe.'
What about "Great King Rat"?
they are aiming to make money.
Yeah, well they aren't getting me to watch MTV. Therefore, they have lost a customer. I've done my part.
Lord Tothe
20-08-2008, 20:45
Bluegrass is badass. Listen to Ricky Skaggs & Kentucky Thunder. Instrumantals and Brand New Strings are the best albums IMHO.
CthulhuFhtagn
20-08-2008, 21:30
Do you remember when MTV used to be worth a damn?


No, because it never was.
New Manvir
20-08-2008, 21:36
Yeah, well they aren't getting me to watch MTV. Therefore, they have lost a customer. I've done my part.

But, they're still making tons of money so they don't care about you.
Heinleinites
20-08-2008, 22:20
Heinleinites have you ever asked yourself WHY mtv no longer plays just music videos? or even why radio stations specialize in one type of music?

Bah! The BAMC does not need introspection either ;) I don't care why they're circling the drain, I'm only interested in capitalizing on their failure. I figure it's probably because their target demographic doesn't have the attention span to watch an entire music video.

Bluegrass is badass. Listen to Ricky Skaggs & Kentucky Thunder. Instrumantals and Brand New Strings are the best albums IMHO.

You're right. Bluegrass definitely has a spot at the BAMC.