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The city council of Milledgeville, Georgia has taken to enforcing a newly enacted law. "No more than 3 unrelated persons may live under the same roof." The law has been made for the historic district where my college, Georgia College and State University, has been for the past 75 years or so. The laws is meant to protect families and even goes on to define what a family is. Personally, I find the idea of the government defining what a family is to be completely retarded and insolent.

Needless to say, I was at the city council meeting when this law was being debated. I quoted Thomas Jefferson on property rights and told them that their law was absurd and unjust. I had local contractors, landlords, and a couple sorority houses there on my side, all expressing our disdain for this law. Against us was a horde of angry old people. They said that we were noisy and out of control and that the only way to stop our reckless binge drinking and wild shenanigans was to decrease the density of college students living in the historic housing district next to the college.

Well, their side won, and almost overnight we noticed a lot of FOR-SALE signs in the neighborhood around our campus. Land lords figured they couldn't turn a profit with only 3 student renting one of those monstrous antebellum homes.

The law says that police can issue tickets based on how many cars are parked outside of a home for an extended period of time. That sucks for me because I have a big driveway and I let other people who live far away park in it a lot. Its an asinine way to enforce the law and it really turns the law into a parking enforcement issue. Just don't park in the same place all the time.

But how else could the police enforce this ridiculous law? To go further the police would need a search warrant or probable cause to start walking into homes. And even then, what sort of empirical evidence can they gather to prove that more than 3 people live there? Should they count beds? Count television sets? Count frozen dinners in the refrigerator? And would any of that information be admissible as evidence in a court room?

Despite this law, I happen to know a lot of people who intend to peacefully disobey. Among them, some Nepalese exchange students who don't have cars and can't afford to move. And why should they move? As far as I know this law cannot affect them. I believe this law is only meant be used against a few high profile party houses that have pissed off their old-fogey neighbors one too many times. But honestly, how is this law going to prevent students from having parties or being loud? The zoning law simply ejects students from their houses, it says nothing about penalizing excessive loudness or social gatherings, which is what the proponents of the law were complaining about in the first place.

I welcome your opinions.

link to article by my school paper (http://media.www.gcsunade.com/media/storage/paper299/news/2008/04/25/CampusNews/City-To.Enforce.District.Zoning-3348345.shtml)

A couple of sham marriages will take care of that problem.

A couple of sham marriages will take care of that problem.

This is a lovely idea.

This is a lovely idea.

Being all for sham marriages, this was indeed my first thought.

As well as sham adoptions.

In Kazakhstan it is illegal for more than five woman to be in the same place, except for in brothel or in grave.

I say contact the A.C.L.U. about this, and watch them make the town council their prison-bitch in the courtroom. :p

The law says that police can issue tickets based on how many cars are parked outside of a home for an extended period of time.

so, no multi-car families allowed either, eh?

I say contact the A.C.L.U. about this, and watch them make the town council their prison-bitch in the courtroom. :p
This.Damn you, character limit!

I say contact the A.C.L.U. about this, and watch them make the town council their prison-bitch in the courtroom. :pMy thoughts exactly.

We have laws about how many people per bedroom here. I ran afoul of it when I was living in a 3 bedroom house with 14 other people, however luckily nobody "reported" us.

I don't think it's fair to say how many people can live in a house just in general though, I mean if I had a 6 bedroom house I might have some more people living with me who weren't technically related.

My best friend growing up lived with her mom, her mom's girlfriend, her dad, and her dad's boyfriend, plus another entire family. They had enough room for everyone. I don't see what the possible problem would be.

Dont worry, this is Georgia we are talking about. Due to centuries of inbreeding, everyone there is related anyway.

I say contact the A.C.L.U. about this, and watch them make the town council their prison-bitch in the courtroom. :p

I am seriously considering that, thankyou

and i was under the impression that WE had the most retarded laws, lol...

:hail:

Boulder Colorado (home of Dear Old C U ) tried this back in the 80s . . . it was largely uninforcable.

Here in Athens, apparently, it is technically illegal for more than two unrelated people to live together, but they never enforce it. I think it's a dumb law, but it doesn't really have much impact on me, so I don't much think about it.

Well I currently live in share accomidation whilst studying at university. The room has 4 beds. We are all unrelated (but off the same gender as uni demands that).

So by the sound of it we are currently breaking the law if located Milledgeville. This problem could be furthur increased if you condiser that there are many of these rooms in the larger building. There must be about 200 unrelated people under one roof.

If that is the case are all the rooms to suddenly loose someone or does this count for the whole building. I doubt its for the whole building as suddenly hotels couldnt have 4 famalies staying.

But still suddenly 50 or so university students would have to find accommidation with their small budget just for my house alone, let alone all the other houses. So all they need to do is find a way to save an extra $50 odd per week when they are already going in to debt.

I see uni drop outs and a rise in the homeless.

Well done Millegdeville. You are now religously right in forcing people out of education and on to the street.

Add another vote for a call to the local branch of the ACLU.

Well I currently live in share accomidation whilst studying at university. The room has 4 beds. We are all unrelated (but off the same gender as uni demands that).

So by the sound of it we are currently breaking the law if located Milledgeville. This problem could be furthur increased if you condiser that there are many of these rooms in the larger building. There must be about 200 unrelated people under one roof.

If that is the case are all the rooms to suddenly loose someone or does this count for the whole building. I doubt its for the whole building as suddenly hotels couldnt have 4 famalies staying.

But still suddenly 50 or so university students would have to find accommidation with their small budget just for my house alone, let alone all the other houses. So all they need to do is find a way to save an extra $50 odd per week when they are already going in to debt.

I see uni drop outs and a rise in the homeless.

Well done Millegdeville. You are now religously right in forcing people out of education and on to the street.
Hotels =/= houses.

Hotels =/= houses.
Now, that's a good idea, define them as hotels and defy the courts to challenge that.

I am seriously considering that, thankyou

Don't 'seriously consider it' - just go ahead and do it. Become the hero of the student movement. Student noobs full-of-grate will be throwing themselves on you. Or throwing up on you. On or the other.

The city council of Milledgeville, Georgia has taken to enforcing a newly enacted law. "No more than 3 unrelated persons may live under the same roof."
almost overnight we noticed a lot of FOR-SALE signs in the neighborhood around our campus.
The law says that police can issue tickets based on how many cars are parked outside of a home for an extended period of time.
Seems like Georgia is nearly 1% as fucked up as the other one.


I welcome your opinions.
It's a crime. I mean the enactment and the enforcement of the law. Nothing else to be said.

Now, that's a good idea, define them as hotels and defy the courts to challenge that.
It would probably be easier to have them classified as boarding houses and then laugh in the district's face.

My best friend growing up lived with her mom, her mom's girlfriend, her dad, and her dad's boyfriend

Her parents were homosexuals who got together to have children? If so, what was her relationship like with her parents' partners? Were they like another pair of parents, an aunt/uncle, or other?

Her parents were homosexuals who got together to have children? If so, what was her relationship like with her parents' partners? Were they like another pair of parents, an aunt/uncle, or other?

One of my friends lives with his mom and her girlfriend...caused him to be a bit homophobic actually, cause she divorced his dad when he found out...

The city council of Milledgeville, Georgia has taken to enforcing a newly enacted law. "No more than 3 unrelated persons may live under the same roof." The law has been made for the historic district where my college, Georgia College and State University, has been for the past 75 years or so. The laws is meant to protect families and even goes on to define what a family is. Personally, I find the idea of the government defining what a family is to be completely retarded and insolent.

Needless to say, I was at the city council meeting when this law was being debated. I quoted Thomas Jefferson on property rights and told them that their law was absurd and unjust. I had local contractors, landlords, and a couple sorority houses there on my side, all expressing our disdain for this law. Against us was a horde of angry old people. They said that we were noisy and out of control and that the only way to stop our reckless binge drinking and wild shenanigans was to decrease the density of college students living in the historic housing district next to the college.

Well, their side won, and almost overnight we noticed a lot of FOR-SALE signs in the neighborhood around our campus. Land lords figured they couldn't turn a profit with only 3 student renting one of those monstrous antebellum homes.

The law says that police can issue tickets based on how many cars are parked outside of a home for an extended period of time. That sucks for me because I have a big driveway and I let other people who live far away park in it a lot. Its an asinine way to enforce the law and it really turns the law into a parking enforcement issue. Just don't park in the same place all the time.

But how else could the police enforce this ridiculous law? To go further the police would need a search warrant or probable cause to start walking into homes. And even then, what sort of empirical evidence can they gather to prove that more than 3 people live there? Should they count beds? Count television sets? Count frozen dinners in the refrigerator? And would any of that information be admissible as evidence in a court room?

Despite this law, I happen to know a lot of people who intend to peacefully disobey. Among them, some Nepalese exchange students who don't have cars and can't afford to move. And why should they move? As far as I know this law cannot affect them. I believe this law is only meant be used against a few high profile party houses that have pissed off their old-fogey neighbors one too many times. But honestly, how is this law going to prevent students from having parties or being loud? The zoning law simply ejects students from their houses, it says nothing about penalizing excessive loudness or social gatherings, which is what the proponents of the law were complaining about in the first place.

I welcome your opinions.

link to article by my school paper (http://media.www.gcsunade.com/media/storage/paper299/news/2008/04/25/CampusNews/City-To.Enforce.District.Zoning-3348345.shtml)

Government has no business in your personal business. Your home is your home! I hate these people who completely toss away privacy for whatever nonsense they want to push...This is completely contrary to the entire American way of life and everything we stand for and were established as.

Don't 'seriously consider it' - just go ahead and do it.

done...

Government is created by those with more common sense then the rest of us. Government is run by those with less common sense then the rest of us.

done...

You rock. :)

done...
Fair play.

Play My Generation a lot, so they can hear all the words.

I have a solution, seize all estates of rich people that are excessively large and turn them into national housing areas for workers.You said you were leaving...

You said you were leaving...
He got stuck in the door or something.

But his solution would sort out a few problems...

I say contact the A.C.L.U. about this, and watch them make the town council their prison-bitch in the courtroom. :pWhat makes you think there's a violation of right here?

Precedent is on the city's side, after all.

Now, that's a good idea, define them as hotels and defy the courts to challenge that.*sigh* Do you people even know what "zoning" is? You can't just suddenly "decide" that you run a hotel.

*sigh* Do you people even know what "zoning" is? You can't just suddenly "decide" that you run a hotel.
Well, admittedly, I'm not too familiar with American laws in general.

It would probably be easier to have them classified as boarding houses and then laugh in the district's face.Uhh... Again, the ordinance applies to areas zoned for single-family residence. Telling the city, "Hey, this is a boarding house!"... well, you may as well paint "violating the law" on your door.