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Anonyminity and masturbatory tendencies

Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 02:09
O.K... after posting a message where I identified myself as ex-U.S. Navy (it's out there now, no use trying to recall it), I realized that the worst enemies to our privacies are ourselves! ( o.k., maybe not a huge revelation in terms of net usage, but the 1st time I had applied the principle to myself, personally.).


Just wondering, and it's an experiment that can be applied on a personal level to yourselves later; tel me about me, by being snoopy about me on this forum. GO!
Barringtonia
20-08-2008, 02:37
The details of your life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? Your father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. Your mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet...

Yet seriously...

A brief scan tells me you live in small town America, most likely north east, possibly Massachusetts or a nearby state. However, your wife is from the South, a nice contrast for your 3 children. You're late 30's, possibly early 40's.

You work in a factory on a shift basis, I would guess something in engineering.

You're naturally Republican, though you're not a fan of the current administration, John McCain is probably a great fit for you. You enjoy old-fashioned values and politeness and you attend church every Sunday. You consider yourself a good citizen of your town.

Interests include vehicles, a preference for motorbikes and you enjoy reading light science fiction though I suspect you like a bit of Clive Cussler when possible.

That much is fairly easy, simply from scanning your last 100 posts.

We do give away a lot more than we should, then again, some people have regular contact with each other and communicate constantly, there's even meet ups.

I guess it's a question of how comfortable you are, everyone's different.

I'm not!
Ifreann
20-08-2008, 02:38
For one, you can't spell anonymity.
Snafturi
20-08-2008, 02:41
This isn't a thread about sekrit wanking?:(
Setulan
20-08-2008, 02:46
This isn't a thread about sekrit wanking?:(

Who wanks in secret? :tongue:
Vault 10
20-08-2008, 02:50
You live in a village within or not far from the state of NY, and you're about 40. You know good left hand, right hand, two-hand techniques, but you don't use them much anymore, which you sometimes nostalgically miss. You would vigorously deny being a dancing gay effeminate man, and 4 people can attest to that.
You don't work in any security-related job, since otherwise you wouldn't have spilled out in 188 posts much more than I have leaked in 6500 (this plus three purely NS-related side forums).
Snafturi
20-08-2008, 02:52
Who wanks in secret? :tongue:

You wank in public? O.o
Non Aligned States
20-08-2008, 02:53
How curious. I do wonder what people think they know of me.
Setulan
20-08-2008, 02:55
You wank in public? O.o

You don't? ^_^
Snafturi
20-08-2008, 02:58
You don't? ^_^

Only for money.;)
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 03:01
The details of your life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? Your father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. Your mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet...

:Drotflmao:D

Yet seriously...

A brief scan tells me you live in small town America, most likely north east, possibly Massachusetts or a nearby state. However, your wife is from the South, a nice contrast for your 3 children. You're late 30's, possibly early 40's.

You work in a factory on a shift basis, I would guess something in engineering.


Holy Shit! Dead nutz on, good job!


You're naturally Republican, though you're not a fan of the current administration, John McCain is probably a great fit for you. [ /QUOTE]

no, yes, no

[QUOTE/]You enjoy old-fashioned values and politeness and you attend church every Sunday. You consider yourself a good citizen of your town.

not 1/2 bad

Interests include vehicles, a preference for motorbikes and you enjoy reading light science fiction though I suspect you like a bit of Clive Cussler when possible.

pretty good, although I have never read Cussler, now I may give him a try.(I'm fairly impressed!)

That much is fairly easy, simply from scanning your last 100 posts.

We do give away a lot more than we should, then again, some people have regular contact with each other and communicate constantly, there's even meet ups.

I guess it's a question of how comfortable you are, everyone's different.

I'm not!

Bravo, good job! My point has been illustrated most succinctly, (and uncomfortably). Heed my warning; we give ourselves away too easily, without realising, as such! :wink:
Setulan
20-08-2008, 03:01
Only for money.;)

Now we're talking. I'm feeling a wanking party in times square...
Grave_n_idle
20-08-2008, 03:05
O.K... after posting a message where I identified myself as ex-U.S. Navy (it's out there now, no use trying to recall it), I realized that the worst enemies to our privacies are ourselves! ( o.k., maybe not a huge revelation in terms of net usage, but the 1st time I had applied the principle to myself, personally.).


Just wondering, and it's an experiment that can be applied on a personal level to yourselves later; tel me about me, by being snoopy about me on this forum. GO!

What you're supposed to do, is create an initially subtle conflicting history, which you continue to perpetuate until someone notices the conflict.

When asked about it, you 'reveal' that the original information you gave away was just a crappy joke.

Or you can, you know, just 'fess up. Maybe you're not as uncomfortable with it as you claim. :)
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 03:06
For one, you can't spell anonymity.

Drinking + didn't spell-check, sorry. :tongue:
Cannot think of a name
20-08-2008, 03:07
My theory regarding info about myself is that no one is any more interested in tracking that than I am of theirs-and since most of the time I can't keep straight whether most posters are dudes or chicks, I don't think they retain any personal info about me if they read it at all.
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 03:08
Who wanks in secret? :tongue:

No one who's ex Navy, THAT'S 4-shure!
*shudder*
Grave_n_idle
20-08-2008, 03:08
My theory regarding info about myself is that no one is any more interested in tracking that than I am of theres-and since most of the time I can't keep straight whether most posters are dudes or chicks, I don't think they retain any personal info about me if they read it at all.

Silly. There are no chicks on the internets.
Barringtonia
20-08-2008, 03:12
Bravo, good job! My point has been illustrated most succinctly, (and uncomfortably). Heed my warning; we give ourselves away too easily, without realising, as such! :wink:

I gleaned any information from scanning the first lines of your last 100 posts, which I can get from your profile.

It's really not impressive at all and most of my actual guesses seem off the mark though I'd still say you're naturally republican, by which I mean low taxes, hands off government, religious (not nutty), family values etc., - you might vote democrat but I'd suspect you at least consider yourself a swing voter.

For Clive Cussler, read adventure'ish books, perhaps Michael Crichton is a better fit. I'd still say you'd enjoy Clive Cussler since it's fairly Navy/Engineering based adventure.

Having said that, it still doesn't say too much about you, I'm sure you could be one of thousands of people.

Beyond that, I'm not sure people care too much to be honest.
Setulan
20-08-2008, 03:14
No one who's ex Navy, THAT'S 4-shure!
*shudder*

Aha!

You know, I've always wondered what all those sailors do on long cruises...:wink:
Barringtonia
20-08-2008, 03:16
How curious. I do wonder what people think they know of me.

You have a fairly anonymous style of posting, by which I mean I recognise your name but I can never remember your positions - some posters you know what their position is before you read their post.

As Barack Obama said to Hillary Clinton - you're likeable enough :)
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 03:18
My theory regarding info about myself is that no one is any more interested in tracking that than I am of theirs-and since most of the time I can't keep straight whether most posters are dudes or chicks, I don't think they retain any personal info about me if they read it at all.

Ever heard of the NSA?
Ever search for info on an extremist military or political group you've never heard of? How about a sexual act that you didn't know existed? Maybe a health condition that only occurs in 1:10,000,00 births?

Starts to look a little scarier, and more ominous now, doesn't it?
Ryadn
20-08-2008, 03:19
My theory regarding info about myself is that no one is any more interested in tracking that than I am of theirs-and since most of the time I can't keep straight whether most posters are dudes or chicks, I don't think they retain any personal info about me if they read it at all.

Ditto. I'm just not interesting enough to track down, kidnap and lock in a basement in Austria for 14 years.
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 03:21
I gleaned any information from scanning the first lines of your last 100 posts, which I can get from your profile.

It's really not impressive at all and most of my actual guesses seem off the mark though I'd still say you're naturally republican, by which I mean low taxes, hands off government, religious (not nutty), family values etc., - you might vote democrat but I'd suspect you at least consider yourself a swing voter.

For Clive Cussler, read adventure'ish books, perhaps Michael Crichton is a better fit. I'd still say you'd enjoy Clive Cussler since it's fairly Navy/Engineering based adventure.

Having said that, it still doesn't say too much about you, I'm sure you could be one of thousands of people.

Beyond that, I'm not sure people care too much to be honest.
...and you nailed the rest of me on your 2nd volley.
:eek:
my hat is off to you, you ninja you!
:hail::hail::hail:
New Manvir
20-08-2008, 03:23
This isn't a thread about sekrit wanking?:(

he tricked me too...
Cannot think of a name
20-08-2008, 03:24
Ever heard of the NSA?
Ever search for info on an extremist military or political group you've never heard of? How about a sexual act that you didn't know existed? Maybe a health condition that only occurs in 1:10,000,00 births?

Starts to look a little scarier, and more ominous now, doesn't it?

They're gettin' that no matter what I post here. You were talking about the information shared here. Here, not even the NSA gives a rats ass what I say about myself.
Neo Art
20-08-2008, 03:25
Ditto. I'm just not interesting enough to track down, kidnap and lock in a basement in Austria for 14 years.

awww, well, if it's any consolation, I'd happily lock you in my basement.
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 03:26
he tricked me too...

Sorry, so here goes...

If you are wanking, I prefer you keep it a secret from me, I just don't want to know.

...thank you, AND your welcome. :D
Setulan
20-08-2008, 03:28
Ditto. I'm just not interesting enough to track down, kidnap and lock in a basement in Austria for 14 years.

Aww. Well, if you really wanted, I would track down, kidnap, and lock you in a basement for fourteen years.

:D

See? I support teachers. :)

EDIT: Damn, Neo Art got there before me. =(
Neo Art
20-08-2008, 03:51
EDIT: Damn, Neo Art got there before me. =(

We can share.
Barringtonia
20-08-2008, 03:57
Oh, and I forgot, you seem to be a Taurus,

:)
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 04:03
They're gettin' that no matter what I post here. You were talking about the information shared here. Here, not even the NSA gives a rats ass what I say about myself.

an, well...part of that was the whole point of my post; I always thought of myself as someone who plays things pretty close to the vest, and BOY; was I ever WRONG! :eek:

I'm just making an observation that; no matter what your views are, we work in a medium that lends itself to self exposure/exibitionism, whether we are aware of it, or not.
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 04:06
Oh, and I forgot, you seem to be a Taurus,

:)

Confirmed, for the bonus round; what is my favorite band?
Barringtonia
20-08-2008, 04:10
Confirmed, for the bonus round; what is my favorite band?

Steppenwolf :)

Hard to say, something rock for sure, you'd have been 18-25 in the late 80's but that doesn't mean you don't prefer late 70's rock.

I'd probably settle on Led Zep or Pink Floyd, one of the two but it could be a little more obscure - to be honest, I'm not American so I don't know which bands are really iconic there - possibly the great Bruce Springsteen and his E Street Band.

I'm hedging :)

However, I bet you love a bit of Pete Seeger when romancing the wife.

EDIT: I might mean Bob Seger, whoever sang Hollywood Nights.

Here you go, in Boston as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gI14KNRdJ8&feature=related
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 04:15
Steppenwolf :)

Hard to say, something rock for sure, you'd have been 18-25 in the late 80's but that doesn't mean you don't prefer late 70's rock.

I'd probably settle on Led Zep or Pink Floyd, one of the two but it could be a little more obscure - to be honest, I'm not American so I don't know which bands are really iconic there - possibly the great Bruce Springsteen and his E Street Band.

I'm hedging :)

BZZZT!
Do NOT pass GO, Do Not collect $200, go DIRECTLY back to my past posts! (I gave you a gimme, and you pissed it away)
I can't beleive you miffed THAT! after the bullseye on all the rest!:eek:
Barringtonia
20-08-2008, 04:17
Ha ha, as I said I'm not American so it's hard for me to know the whole band scene - still, if you're not a fan of rock then that's pretty bad, I did slightly edit.

I can check your posts but I'm not overly concerned.
Barringtonia
20-08-2008, 04:24
How about the Red Hot Chilli Peppers then?
Gartref
20-08-2008, 04:26
...tell me about me, by being snoopy about me on this forum. GO!

You use Evian skin cream, and sometimes you wear L'Air du Temps, but not today.
Barringtonia
20-08-2008, 04:29
Here's one out there - did you go to Eagle Hill School?

I suppose, if one cares to really look, one could probably narrow down most people who write on these boards, just because most of us don't really care, doesn't mean the information isn't out there.

There could well be people sitting in their basements building up large profiles of everyone on these boards, if just for their own interest.

Does it really matter, you're in as much statistical danger, if not more, from people you know well compared to people you've never met.
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 04:30
How about the Red Hot Chilli Peppers then?

Oh shit, the end of the game,Bonus Round: we goin out with a bang, 3 questions, so; are ya ready Jack?
-uh...I guess so.
LOAD THE GAT!
Non Aligned States
20-08-2008, 04:34
As Barack Obama said to Hillary Clinton - you're likeable enough :)

Only because you can't remember anything to dislike about me. *hides neuralizer* :p
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 04:46
Oh shit, the end of the game,Bonus Round: we goin out with a bang, 3 questions, so; are ya ready Jack?
-uh...I guess so.
LOAD THE GAT!

Nutsacks don't belong in?
-buttcracks?
CORRECT! The square root of two is?
-uhhhhh...
CORRECT! Rich boys eat?
-caviar?
NO! (sounds of automatic gunfire) The correct answer is-"bullets", tune in next week for another exiting episode of-"The Joker's Wild!"
Barringtonia
20-08-2008, 04:51
Nutsacks don't belong in?
-buttcracks?
CORRECT! The square root of two is?
-uhhhhh...
CORRECT! Rich boys eat?
-caviar?
NO! (sounds of automatic gunfire) The correct answer is-"bullets", tune in next week for another exiting episode of-"The Joker's Wild!"

I've clearly got Insane Clown Posse coming up here - totally off my radar.
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 04:54
I've clearly got Insane Clown Posse coming up here - totally off my radar.

CORRECT! Name the album for the win!
(Prick? ain't I?):D
Barringtonia
20-08-2008, 05:01
CORRECT! Name the album for the win!
(Prick? ain't I?):D

Indeed you are, Please Catch Me.

Anyway, it shows one can be general but not specific about someone, we're all dogs on the Internet.
Cannot think of a name
20-08-2008, 05:03
an, well...part of that was the whole point of my post; I always thought of myself as someone who plays things pretty close to the vest, and BOY; was I ever WRONG! :eek:

I'm just making an observation that; no matter what your views are, we work in a medium that lends itself to self exposure/exibitionism, whether we are aware of it, or not.

I work at least part of every year on reality shows, if it weren't for peoples obsessive exhibitionism and voyeurism, I wouldn't make rent sometimes.
Ashmoria
20-08-2008, 05:08
Ever heard of the NSA?
Ever search for info on an extremist military or political group you've never heard of? How about a sexual act that you didn't know existed? Maybe a health condition that only occurs in 1:10,000,00 births?

Starts to look a little scarier, and more ominous now, doesn't it?
no no it doesnt.
Ashmoria
20-08-2008, 05:11
i dont see the point of paranoia.

i am surrounded by people who see me every day. they know my name, where i live, what i buy at the store, what kind of car i drive, and almost anything else they care to know about me.

what would it matter if someone here could figure out some of that?
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 05:11
Indeed you are, Please Catch Me.
-can't be bothered, i AM a lazy American, after all! :tongue:
Anyway, it shows one can be general but not specific about someone, we're all dogs on the Internet.
Indeed we are, but maybe we should all be slightly more mindful what we reveal to others that we don't ACTUALLY know.
For all you actually know, I could be a master spy for Moscow, or a sociopathic serial killer from Vancouver, Eh? :tongue:
Maybe I'm a 12 y.o. hermaphroditic prostitute from Thailand.
Be mindful what you reveal, and to WHOM! Heed my warning!
Setulan
20-08-2008, 05:18
Indeed we are, but maybe we should all be slightly more mindful what we reveal to others that we don't ACTUALLY know.
For all you actually know, I could be a master spy for Moscow, or a sociopathic serial killer from Vancouver, Eh? :tongue:
Maybe I'm a 12 y.o. hermaphroditic prostitute from Thailand.
Be mindful what you reveal, and to WHOM! Heed my warning!

...I'm a 52 year old overweight bald guy in a chicken suit. :eek:

Really though, paranoia is a very comforting state of mind. If you think they are after you, it means you think you matter.
Free Bikers
20-08-2008, 05:31
...I'm a 52 year old overweight bald guy in a chicken suit. :eek:

OMG! I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE!!!
:D:hail::D:hail::D:hail::D
The Pictish Revival
20-08-2008, 08:22
For all you actually know, I could be a master spy for Moscow, or a sociopathic serial killer from Vancouver, Eh? :tongue:
Maybe I'm a 12 y.o. hermaphroditic prostitute from Thailand.
Be mindful what you reveal, and to WHOM! Heed my warning!

Yes, you might be any of those things. And that's precisely why you can afford not to worry too much about giving out information about yourself on NSG.
SoWiBi
20-08-2008, 10:00
For one, you can't spell anonymity.

Says the one who's particularly bad at keeping it. I don't even need my five years of NS to tell me details about you (I hope) you don't want me to know.

I've given away my age, location, and study courses publicly on NSG, which is a lot more than I usually do.

.. but on the plus side, I am not registered with any of the major socializing / networking sites :]
Snafturi
20-08-2008, 14:00
Now we're talking. I'm feeling a wanking party in times square...
Hells yeah!
No one who's ex Navy, THAT'S 4-shure!
*shudder*
I'm so glad I was Army.

i dont see the point of paranoia.

i am surrounded by people who see me every day. they know my name, where i live, what i buy at the store, what kind of car i drive, and almost anything else they care to know about me.

what would it matter if someone here could figure out some of that?

But these are internet people. The internet is where the stalkers live.
Adunabar
20-08-2008, 14:43
Barringtonia how do you do this?
Eofaerwic
20-08-2008, 15:26
No one who's ex Navy, THAT'S 4-shure!
*shudder*

Reminds me of a wonderful quote from Winston Churchill who described the "great" traditions of the Royal Navy as "rum, sodomy and the lash"

With regards to anonyimity however, to be honest someone who really wanted to find things out about you (be they government or criminal) would probably be able to find out a lot more about you from a multitude of other sources than NSG. Most people however don't really care and the profile you could glean from something like Nationstates could be any of hundreds of people.

I suspect from what I've posted on nationstates people could probably narrow me down to half a dozen people however :eek: but this mostly related to data collection for my work and thus my professional life. And I suspect most of you really don't care.
BunnySaurus Bugsii
21-08-2008, 05:18
Barringtonia how do you do this?

Banger explained already:

I gleaned any information from scanning the first lines of your last 100 posts, which I can get from your profile.

It's really not impressive at all and most of my actual guesses seem off the mark...

With a longer posting history, searching for keywords works well too. Eg. "makes angry" or some colloquialism for that ... people are much more likely to resort to "argument from authority" when they're angry, and give away details in the process (eg their occupation or places they have lived.)

Even comments like "it just started raining" can be correlated against a weather map, and with enough data points, a person's location narrowed down to within a kilometre or so.

I don't do that, and I hope others don't do it to me. It's basic netiquette (see, that's a give-away too ... I really am old) to respect anonymity unless someone specifically wants to not have it.
Conserative Morality
21-08-2008, 12:29
Yet seriously...

A brief scan tells me you live in small town America, most likely north east, possibly Massachusetts or a nearby state. However, your wife is from the South, a nice contrast for your 3 children. You're late 30's, possibly early 40's.

You work in a factory on a shift basis, I would guess something in engineering.

You're naturally Republican, though you're not a fan of the current administration, John McCain is probably a great fit for you. You enjoy old-fashioned values and politeness and you attend church every Sunday. You consider yourself a good citizen of your town.

Interests include vehicles, a preference for motorbikes and you enjoy reading light science fiction though I suspect you like a bit of Clive Cussler when possible.

That much is fairly easy, simply from scanning your last 100 posts.

We do give away a lot more than we should, then again, some people have regular contact with each other and communicate constantly, there's even meet ups.

I guess it's a question of how comfortable you are, everyone's different.

I'm not!

:eek2:

...

Do me next!:D