NationStates Jolt Archive


True love

Wilgrove
18-08-2008, 20:44
What is your definition of True love?

For me, it would have to be this feeling that you get, that no matter what you'll always love this person, and you can't really imagine your life without that person. That person means alot to you, or the world to you, and you know that in your hearts of hearts, if you lost this person, you would be losing a piece of yourself.
Anti-Social Darwinism
18-08-2008, 21:06
In my life, there is no such animal, at least where men are concerned.

I love my kids, my mother (may she rest in peace) and my pets. I think for many people, that's the truest love they'll have.
Ifreann
18-08-2008, 21:08
Baby don't hurt me
Fartsniffage
18-08-2008, 21:10
True love is being willing to fork out £2000 on that telephoto lens so your beloved never has to be shocked by seeing you staring through her bedroom window while she's changing.
Johnny B Goode
18-08-2008, 21:14
No idea, but it ain't for me.
Ascelonia
18-08-2008, 21:17
Love is something hard to understand. In science, it just seems to be a combination of chemicals and hormones. I'm not sure. In my eyes, I think that there is many different kinds of love. Love between family and love between lovers and etc. It's hard to explain.
Amarenthe
18-08-2008, 21:21
The knowing that some little part of you will always wonder where they are and whether they're doing well. Doesn't mean you can't live without them, can't move on and fall in love and live a perfectly happy and content life with someone else... doesn't mean you have to miss them or long for them or even want them back. It just means there's a corner of your heart reserved for the thought of them, and it makes you smile.

That's my opinion. True love is the love you carry with you always, and you can have several. True love doesn't have to be the only love or the strongest love. It doesn't have to be... the reason you wake up every morning, it doesn't have to be what sustains you, or all those dramatic expressions of devotion. It's just that quiet little feeling that you'll always carry part of them with you, and they have part of you, and that's okay.

Edit: Obviously, this seems to be directed at true love in hindsight. You can obviously have true love with someone while you're with them... all I meant is, true love doesn't end even when the relationship does. That's how you know it's true love.
Call to power
18-08-2008, 21:21
hmm so your asking me to define abstract concepts now?

*dons evil cape*

yes its is I The cold reality! and I've come to crumble all your hopes, dreams and cookies ahahahahaha

but seriously I think most of NS is to young to say such crap seeing as how we are little above the upper school girls who will love Robbie 4eva IDST (as I feel Bob Sinclar would say (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjgrx-m0Z6c))

Baby don't hurt me

Don't hurt me :(
Amarenthe
18-08-2008, 21:22
Don't hurt me :(

No more...
Call to power
18-08-2008, 21:25
No more...

Oh, I don't know why you're not there :rolleyes:
Skalvia
18-08-2008, 21:30
Havent found something to define it yet for me...
Gravlen
18-08-2008, 21:32
No more...

What is love? :confused:
Gravlen
18-08-2008, 21:36
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/Gravlen/NSG/Love.jpg

But!

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/Gravlen/NSG/hasselhofflove7qq.jpg
Neesika
18-08-2008, 21:48
I don't know about the 'true' aspect of it, but the deepest love I've felt yet is feeling secure in knowing he doesn't want to turn me into something I'm not, and I feel the same way about him.
Iniika
18-08-2008, 21:50
I believe that love is an entirely manufactured emotion. You are told what love is. You are also told that if you are not in love, have loved, want love or understand love, you are failing as a human. You are also told how much love should cost you, how much you should love and how often.

If I'm experiencing love now, and it's wonderful and good, and then it ends, does that mean that it was never love? Or does it mean that any feelings of love after this one are false love? Every time I experience 'love' it's completely different from the last time. So, in terms of the over dramatised modern media view of 'love', I don't think I've ever felt it, and I'm not sure that I want to.

Attraction, desire and companionship, however, I have felt, and cherish, but 'love' is an entirely too broad a term to put a definition onto.
Ashmoria
18-08-2008, 21:50
true love, like good luck, is an after-the-fact judgement.
Neesika
18-08-2008, 21:54
true love, like good luck, is an after-the-fact judgement.

Cynic:D

I don't know that I agree. If by 'true' you mean 'lasts forever' then fine enough. If by 'true' you mean 'better than all the other loves you've ever had' then you'd also be right. If instead you mean 'true' as in...'We actually love one another for the people we are', then I think that can be judged during, rather than after the fact.
Frisbeeteria
18-08-2008, 21:56
To one who professed that she felt it for me ... True Love apparently meant that I would sublimate my life into hers, would be there for her every call, would subsidize her every whim, would adore her from near and far. Her life would be more important to me than my own, her needs were more valid than my own, and her aspirations were more worthy of support than my own. All that she required of me was that I validate her interpretation unreservedly and without qualification.

That's how wives become ex-wives.
Ashmoria
18-08-2008, 21:58
Cynic:D

I don't know that I agree. If by 'true' you mean 'lasts forever' then fine enough. If by 'true' you mean 'better than all the other loves you've ever had' then you'd also be right. If instead you mean 'true' as in...'We actually love one another for the people we are', then I think that can be judged during, rather than after the fact.
dont matter.

love you know. TRUE LOVE can only be claimed when you have spent enough time to make the claim stick. even then it sometimes turns out so badly that you would deny that it was ever TRUE LOVE.

yeah i guess i am a cynic. i think that the notion of TRUE LOVE is kinda stupid.
Neesika
18-08-2008, 21:59
To one who professed that she felt it for me ... True Love apparently meant that I would sublimate my life into hers, would be there for her every call, would subsidize her every whim, would adore her from near and far. Her life would be more important to me than my own, her needs were more valid than my own, and her aspirations were more worthy of support than my own. All that she required of me was that I validate her interpretation unreservedly and without qualification.

That's how wives become ex-wives.

I hear you on that one, though I haven't divorced a woman yet, just a man :D
Ashmoria
18-08-2008, 22:00
To one who professed that she felt it for me ... True Love apparently meant that I would sublimate my life into hers, would be there for her every call, would subsidize her every whim, would adore her from near and far. Her life would be more important to me than my own, her needs were more valid than my own, and her aspirations were more worthy of support than my own. All that she required of me was that I validate her interpretation unreservedly and without qualification.

That's how wives become ex-wives.
but how do they become wives to begin with?
Neesika
18-08-2008, 22:00
dont matter.

love you know. TRUE LOVE can only be claimed when you have spent enough time to make the claim stick. even then it sometimes turns out so badly that you would deny that it was ever TRUE LOVE.

yeah i guess i am a cynic. i think that the notion of TRUE LOVE is kinda stupid.
Right up there with THE ONE TM?

Yeah, pretty much.

Love is multi-faceted...I have many loves in my life and they are shaped by different needs/relationships/etc. All of them are true.
Extreme Ironing
18-08-2008, 22:04
What is your definition of True love?

A delusion.
Frisbeeteria
18-08-2008, 22:05
but how do they become wives to begin with?

It took me a couple of years of marriage to figure out that she was serious. That and the fact that I felt a societal imperative to be married, and she was handy.

I got better.
Neesika
18-08-2008, 22:06
It took me a couple of years of marriage to figure out that she was serious. That and the fact that I felt a societal imperative to be married, and she was handy.

I got better.

Are you remarried?
Ashmoria
18-08-2008, 22:07
Right up there with THE ONE TM?

Yeah, pretty much.

Love is multi-faceted...I have many loves in my life and they are shaped by different needs/relationships/etc. All of them are true.
yeah pretty much.

im not big on saying that love is NOT love.

"did he ever really love me?"

yeah he did but it went away.
Frisbeeteria
18-08-2008, 22:08
Are you remarried?

Not no but HELL no. I'm done with that institution.
Neesika
18-08-2008, 22:18
Not no but HELL no. I'm done with that institution.

:D

I was never fine with the 'institution' of marriage, but then again it is what you make it. Unless you let it make you, in which case you're hooped.
Snafturi
18-08-2008, 22:20
true love, like good luck, is an after-the-fact judgement.

I'd have to agree with that entirely. I think it's possible to love, or be in love with someone in a moment. That moment could be an hour, a week, five years, whatever. True love, to me, is a love that one can look back on and think "yeah, that was an awesome person to have in my life."


**If I'm not making sense, I apologise. I'm extremely exhausted.
Fartsniffage
18-08-2008, 22:21
It took me a couple of years of marriage to figure out that she was serious. That and the fact that I felt a societal imperative to be married, and she was handy.

I got better.

Handy, could put up shelves or handy, good with her fists?
Ashmoria
18-08-2008, 22:22
It took me a couple of years of marriage to figure out that she was serious. That and the fact that I felt a societal imperative to be married, and she was handy.

I got better.
i wish there was a pill to take to get over the sickness of thinking that getting married is necessary.

unfortunately the only cure is getting married. then you realize that its not a goal in and of itself.
Snafturi
18-08-2008, 22:25
I'm only getting married if I choose to have kids. And honestly, I want the quickest, most perfunctory wedding ever. Or totally wierd. Now that the 24 hr Church of Elvis is open again I'd consider getting married there. Or Voodoo Doughnuts. Because getting married in a doughnut shop is just cool.
The Parkus Empire
19-08-2008, 00:54
What is your definition of True love?

For me, it would have to be this feeling that you get, that no matter what you'll always love this person, and you can't really imagine your life without that person. That person means alot to you, or the world to you, and you know that in your hearts of hearts, if you lost this person, you would be losing a piece of yourself.

The feeling, of course, is rarely permanent, especially among adolescents, where it is know to fluctuate in as little as a week. Adults have been occasionally known to hold the delusion for seven years, or so.

LOVE, n. A temporary insanity curable by marriage or by removal of the patient from the influences under which he incurred the disorder. This disease, like caries and many other ailments, is prevalent only among civilized races living under artificial conditions; barbarous nations breathing pure air and eating simple food enjoy immunity from its ravages. It is sometimes fatal, but more frequently to the physician than to the patient.
Gartref
19-08-2008, 03:00
Yeah, True Love is the greatest thing in the world, except for a nice MLT (mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich) - when the mutton is nice and lean, and the tomato is ripe. They're so perky. I love that.
Anti-Social Darwinism
19-08-2008, 03:51
True love - *ponders* I truly love bacon, lettuce, tomato and avocado sandwiches, Godiva chocolate, artichokes ...
Wilgrove
19-08-2008, 03:56
I'm only getting married if I choose to have kids. And honestly, I want the quickest, most perfunctory wedding ever. Or totally wierd. Now that the 24 hr Church of Elvis is open again I'd consider getting married there. Or Voodoo Doughnuts. Because getting married in a doughnut shop is just cool.

I may actually do a Matrix wedding if I ever get married.

I'll be dressed as The Merovingian of course. We'll have the ceremony and reception in Hel. :D
NERVUN
19-08-2008, 04:04
Yeah, True Love is the greatest thing in the world, except for a nice MLT (mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich) - when the mutton is nice and lean, and the tomato is ripe. They're so perky. I love that.
And wuv, tru wuv, will fowow you foweva... :p

Yes, I do think true love exists, but I also think that it is so subjective that finding two people with the same POV on it, or at least similar enough to take a swing at it, is rather rare.

I also think that true love does not excuse a couple for the work a relationship needs.
Snafturi
19-08-2008, 04:19
I may actually do a Matrix wedding if I ever get married.

I'll be dressed as The Merovingian of course. We'll have the ceremony and reception in Hel. :D

That's awesome.

I just think a unique and quirky wedding can't go wrong. At the least, it will be fun. If it works out, how cool will it be to tell your grandkids? If it doesn't work out, at least you can laugh about the wedding. It also serves as a good litmus test for the relationship. If my partner didn't want to get married in a donught shop, I'd know we were fundamentally different people. Better to know that before tying the knot.
Wilgrove
19-08-2008, 04:31
That's awesome.

I just think a unique and quirky wedding can't go wrong. At the least, it will be fun. If it works out, how cool will it be to tell your grandkids? If it doesn't work out, at least you can laugh about the wedding. It also serves as a good litmus test for the relationship. If my partner didn't want to get married in a donught shop, I'd know we were fundamentally different people. Better to know that before tying the knot.

I just love the idea of walking into "Club Hel' where family and friends are gathered. I look over them in my Merovingian suit and I say this.

Family and Friends, My wife and I, welcome you to Hel!
Soviestan
19-08-2008, 06:46
The feeling true love can be recreated by eating large amounts of chocolate. Thanks Hersey's
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
19-08-2008, 06:54
I'm also of the opinion that "love" is oxytocin, vasopressin, etc.

I must've "fallen in love" with a different girl each week of my freshman year of high school - or at least for the first two or three weeks, until I realized my brain was simply playing tricks. Each time I was convinced that she had some quality that all the other girls lacked, and that we were fated to meet - the whole nine yards. I just thank god that I didn't try and talk to any of them - that kind of embarrassment would've crushed my ego at that age. :p
Bornova
19-08-2008, 07:08
True love, at least for me, is the state of mind that has just the right amount of dizziness, loss of self control, carelessness and a dash of pain that increase over time to let you write songs.

It is also the name of one very cute Japanese sim game.

Cheerio!
Call to power
19-08-2008, 13:17
I forgot to post this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YO9FpWX57E&feature=related)

Handy, could put up shelves or handy, good with her fists?

if shes any good at sewing I can see why someone would be her bitch...do you think she has a nice body?
Johnny B Goode
19-08-2008, 15:40
I'm also of the opinion that "love" is oxytocin, vasopressin, etc.

I must've "fallen in love" with a different girl each week of my freshman year of high school - or at least for the first two or three weeks, until I realized my brain was simply playing tricks. Each time I was convinced that she had some quality that all the other girls lacked, and that we were fated to meet - the whole nine yards. I just thank god that I didn't try and talk to any of them - that kind of embarrassment would've crushed my ego at that age. :p

You're a bit smarter than I was when I felt that way. That's pretty much the reason I have no/low self-esteem now.