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Remember that thread I posted weeks ago about how American telly sucked? Well, I take all of that back now.

I was watching the women's marathon on NBC (go Britain!) when all of a sudden they cut to commercials and this came on.

http://www.nbc.com/Crusoe/video/clips/crusoe/281067/

I have never felt so much bliss watching a tv commercial for an upcoming series. For the billions of moronic, testosterone filled, macho-man, redneck shows that NBC has cranked out, they FINALLY made something that caught my interest.

From what I've seen, it's based off of the Robinson Crusoe novel, and the 2008 telly series will include...

- Pirates
- 18th century British setting and culture
- Muskets and swordfights
- Adventure!!
- More pirates
- A underlying multicultural message about the friendship of Crusoe and the African chap (I admit I'm not familiar with the novel so I don't know his name, but I'm a sucker for shows that portray minorities w/o stereotypes in hero roles :P)
- Authentic historical costumes from the time period
- Chicks with swords :P
- PIRATES PIRATES PIRATES

I just hope the rest of America will love the show as much as I will. Unfortunately most people who watch NBC haven't exactly shown a lot of understanding or preference for historic fictions (New Amsterdam was cut by NBC). I will unleash my wrath upon NBC and friends if they decide to cut Crusoe after two episodes.

Who else is excited about this? :)

It has pirates. Stupid question.

ohmygod.

i cant get excited about this. theyll just cancel it and break my heart.

OHMYFREAKINGGOD

it has sean bean in it!

The "African chap" was named Friday.

Authentic costumes and culture? I'll be there.

- Pirates
- More pirates
- PIRATES PIRATES PIRATES
....
Who else is excited about this? :)

OMG DO WANT PIRATES! Do waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant

Nay. I worship the God Of TV Series and stick to his productions. Until I hear people compare a series with one made by the God Of TV Series, I can't get interested in it.

Sounded pretty "meh" to me. *Awaits angry mob*

Sounded pretty "meh" to me. *Awaits angry mob*

*Angry mob arrives, glares.*

Pirates? They were only mutineers in the novel, wannabe pirates who turned to a bunch of spineless pussies when they encountered an angry hermit and illiterate black guy.

Nay. I worship the God Of TV Series and stick to his productions. Until I hear people compare a series with one made by the God Of TV Series, I can't get interested in it.
mark burnett?

*Angry mob arrives, glares.*

*Looks at watch* Come on, I don't have all night. Most mobs would've already stoned me. You guys feeling lazy today?

mark burnett?

I think this new series is being made by Burnett, just like everything else on NBC.

From what I've seen, it's based off of the Robinson Crusoe novel, and the 2008 telly series will include...


- 18th century British setting and culture


Wait, the island he was stranded on was BRITAIN??

Wait, the island he was stranded on was BRITAIN??
isle of man

poor thing.

I'll get excited when people are still excited by the 3rd season. I'm not starting any series that won't be finished after what was done to me by Carnivale.

I'll get excited when people are still excited by the 3rd season. I'm not starting any series that won't be finished after what was done to me by Carnivale.
i know what you mean.

but to me it depends on whether its completely episodic or if there is a story arc that will end up with crusoe returned to england.

(if thats how the original story goes)

i know what you mean.

but to me it depends on whether its completely episodic or if there is a story arc that will end up with crusoe returned to england.

(if thats how the original story goes)

True but I can't imagine they would do Crusoe without a story arc.

i dont trust hollywood that much.

but i lied

it has sean bean in it, i dont care if it only goes 3 episodes, im watching every one.

i dont trust hollywood that much.

but i lied

it has sean bean in it, i dont care if it only goes 3 episodes, im watching every one.

What's worse is if they decided after a few episodes that it was too cultural and british-y so they scrap the show and make an Americanised version of it for better ratings.

Crusoe: Make Glorious American War Against Indians and Assorted Non Redneck Peoples For Benefit of New Country (or whatever else goes on in 18th century america)

As it is based on an established story and not pulled out of some one's ass, it is promising.

*Looks at watch* Come on, I don't have all night. Most mobs would've already stoned me. You guys feeling lazy today?

*Angry mob pouts, throws handful of gravel, pouts some more, leaves in a huff.*

What's worse is if they decided after a few episodes that it was too cultural and british-y so they scrap the show and make an Americanised version of it for better ratings.

Crusoe: Make Glorious American War Against Indians and Assorted Non Redneck Peoples For Benefit of New Country (or whatever else goes on in 18th century america)
yeah, robinson crusoe ends up fighting in the revolution or wanders the wilderness with daniel boone.

id still watch it as long as it has sean bean.

...

oh its much earlier than that...

robinson crusoe goes to santa fe and fights the pueblo indians...

As it is based on an established story and not pulled out of some one's ass, it is promising.
Twenty seconds into the preview, I could tell that this show will have nothing to do with the original story other than the very superficial. There were no wimmens in Robinson Crusoe!
And I also noticed not one single fence in that preview. Not one! Nor any corn. No corn bread, no corn fields, no miraculously appearing corn seeds, no stockpiles of corn, no long rambling monologues about corn, no plans to make beer out of corn, no corn harvests.

Twenty seconds into the preview, I could tell that this show will have nothing to do with the original story other than the very superficial. There were no wimmens in Robinson Crusoe!
And I also noticed not one single fence in that preview. Not one! Nor any corn. No corn bread, no corn fields, no miraculously appearing corn seeds, no stockpiles of corn, no long rambling monologues about corn, no plans to make beer out of corn, no corn harvests.
But there were pirates. And a black guy. It's obviously Robinson Crusoe.

>_>

Twenty seconds into the preview, I could tell that this show will have nothing to do with the original story other than the very superficial. There were no wimmens in Robinson Crusoe!
And I also noticed not one single fence in that preview. Not one! Nor any corn. No corn bread, no corn fields, no miraculously appearing corn seeds, no stockpiles of corn, no long rambling monologues about corn, no plans to make beer out of corn, no corn harvests.
lol

yeah its gonna suck without the womanless corn thing.

*Looks at watch* Come on, I don't have all night. Most mobs would've already stoned me. You guys feeling lazy today?

I think I will join you, it hasn't taken my fancy but if it comes to Australia I will check it out.

Bloody Sam Neill he is on everything oh well, yeah I will wait and see before I pass judgement.

Twenty seconds into the preview, I could tell that this show will have nothing to do with the original story other than the very superficial. There were no wimmens in Robinson Crusoe!
And I also noticed not one single fence in that preview. Not one! Nor any corn. No corn bread, no corn fields, no miraculously appearing corn seeds, no stockpiles of corn, no long rambling monologues about corn, no plans to make beer out of corn, no corn harvests.

They have to chuck women in, it would be 'right' if there wasn't at least one, but that's TV for you they take a story and change it around to suit themselves.

But there were pirates. And a black guy. It's obviously Robinson Crusoe.

>_>

obviously.

They have to chuck women in, it would be 'right' if there wasn't at least one, but that's TV for you they take a story and change it around to suit themselves.

There's a song that goes "You aint got nothing unless you put a girl in it" or something to that effect...

There's a song that goes "You aint got nothing unless you put a girl in it" or something to that effect...
besides just WHO can be expected to watch a show about 2 hot men living alone on an island?

besides just WHO can be expected to watch a show about 2 hot men living alone on an island?

There was a recent movie that made a killing based on just that concept...

There was a recent movie that made a killing based on just that concept...
what movie is that?

what movie is that?

Brokeback Mountain, starring Heath Ledger and someone else.. they were 'cowboys' who had a gay love affair or something. It was considered some kind of artsy kind of moody romance movie.

Brokeback Mountain, starring Heath Ledger and someone else.. they were 'cowboys' who had a gay love affair or something. It was considered some kind of artsy kind of moody romance movie.
oh i got too focused on the island thing.

but you forget that there were women in the movie--both men got married.

in any case, what can be sustained in a 2 hour movie is quite different from years worth of episodes on US tv--20ish hours every year. even the show bonanza got the boys hooked up with women now and then (otherwise it was 5 men living in a nevada ranch house without a woman in sight--with only one of them not being related to the rest. ooohhh the fanfiction porn possibilities of THAT scenario)

oh i got too focused on the island thing.

but you forget that there were women in the movie--both men got married.

in any case, what can be sustained in a 2 hour movie is quite different from years worth of episodes on US tv--20ish hours every year. even the show bonanza got the boys hooked up with women now and then (otherwise it was 5 men living in a nevada ranch house without a woman in sight--with only one of them not being related to the rest. ooohhh the fanfiction porn possibilities of THAT scenario)

I never watched Brokeback Mountain, not out of any kind of phobia stuff but because the movie never really interested me.. like at all.

Fortunatly the mid 20th century was a much more innocent time.. I'm not even sure people knew what sex was until they hit thier mid 50's.

for the people touting the multicultural aspect of the book.
The first word Friday was taught in English was master. As I mr. white man am your master. sorry the book was written during the white man's burden time in history for the British empire.

Second if the series is popular they will want it to run indefinitely. So the first season might follow some of the books story line but subsequent seasons will only follow story line during season premieres and season finales everything in between will be Gilligan's Island with a black guy and no girls.

I never watched Brokeback Mountain, not out of any kind of phobia stuff but because the movie never really interested me.. like at all.

Fortunatly the mid 20th century was a much more innocent time.. I'm not even sure people knew what sex was until they hit thier mid 50's.
i saw it on video long after the hype had faded.

its a pretty good movie.

for the people touting the multicultural aspect of the book.
The first word Friday was taught in English was master. As I mr. white man am your master. sorry the book was written during the white man's burden time in history for the British empire.

Second if the series is popular they will want it to run indefinitely. So the first season might follow some of the books story line but subsequent seasons will only follow story line during season premieres and season finales everything in between will be Gilligan's Island with a black guy and no girls.
yeah i expect friday's character to be significantly more modern. as will crusoes i suppose.

that whole black man as dog-that-talks servant thing just wont fly today.

besides just WHO can be expected to watch a show about 2 hot men living alone on an island?

Women, men who never thought about the implications, and men who think long and hard about the implications.

besides just WHO can be expected to watch a show about 2 hot men living alone on an island?

I'll guess.


Fass?

The "African chap" was named Friday.

Authentic costumes and culture? I'll be there.He wasn't named 'Friday', Carusoe called him Friday because he met him on that day and in typical eglitarian victorian fashion couldn't be arsed to learn his actual name.

He wasn't named 'Friday', Carusoe called him Friday because he met him on that day and in typical eglitarian victorian fashion couldn't be arsed to learn his actual name.
maybe they'll give him an actual name in this show!

maybe they'll give him an actual name in this show!

I think it would be hilarious if they gave the Friday character an African-language name (in Bantu or Khosian or whatever group which the man was indigenous) that translated to "Friday". Suck it, PC purists.

I think it would be hilarious if they gave the Friday character an African-language name (in Bantu or Khosian or whatever group which the man was indigenous) that translated to "Friday". Suck it, PC purists.
ohmygod that would be funny.

I think it would be hilarious if they gave the Friday character an African-language name (in Bantu or Khosian or whatever group which the man was indigenous) that translated to "Friday". Suck it, PC purists.

Probably end up like Side show Raheem.

Probably end up like Side show Raheem.

SO VERY GLAD I was not drinking when I read that. LMAO.

for the people touting the multicultural aspect of the book.
The first word Friday was taught in English was master. As I mr. white man am your master. sorry the book was written during the white man's burden time in history for the British empire.
And there's that whole thing with Friday putting his head under Crusoe's foot multiple times. Yes, that's right, that's literally what happens. I am not speaking metaphorically in any way shape or form.
I think it would be hilarious if they gave the Friday character an African-language name (in Bantu or Khosian or whatever group which the man was indigenous) that translated to "Friday". Suck it, PC purists.
Friday wasn't African, he was a member of some black cannibal tribe that lived on the coast South America. There was an African kid, of course, but Crusoe sold him off to a boat captain months before he got trapped on the island.

Women, men who never thought about the implications, and men who think long and hard about the implications.

men who think long and hard about the implications.

men who think long and hard

long and hard

Yeah, I see what you mean.

And there's that whole thing with Friday putting his head under Crusoe's foot multiple times. Yes, that's right, that's literally what happens. I am not speaking metaphorically in any way shape or form.

Friday wasn't African, he was a member of some black cannibal tribe that lived on the coast South America. There was an African kid, of course, but Crusoe sold him off to a boat captain months before he got trapped on the island.

Fair enough. If I read that book at all, it was at least 30 years ago.